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(Wall Street Journal)   Elmo's accuser recants. This headline is brought to you by the letter "L" for Libel   (blogs.wsj.com) divider line 121
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2012-11-13 08:20:03 PM  
Sad. His career is ruined now no matter what.
 
2012-11-13 08:33:16 PM  

CraicBaby: Sad. His career is ruined now no matter what.


Except for the long list of people who want his dick in their ass. Probably not as dismal of a position in which to be as some may speculate.
 
2012-11-13 08:56:14 PM  

CraicBaby: Sad. His career is ruined now no matter what.


Nah, I think he'll be okay. In his circle, being gay is no big deal. If anything, it can be an education to the world that being gay does not equal pedophile, even if you work with children.
 
2012-11-13 09:22:02 PM  

Earguy: CraicBaby: Sad. His career is ruined now no matter what.

Nah, I think he'll be okay. In his circle, being gay is no big deal. If anything, it can be an education to the world that being gay does not equal pedophile, even if you work with children.


Sexual orientation doesn't matter. It's the accusation that he had sex with someone who was underage that will ruin his career, even if it was retracted. People only hear the initial accusation. They rarely see the retraction.
 
2012-11-13 09:34:18 PM  

CraicBaby: People only hear the initial accusation. They rarely see the retraction.


Yup, I had a scoutmaster and an English teacher that were both accused of this and both were eventually cleared. Neither were able to return to the work they loved.
 
2012-11-13 10:07:35 PM  
Well, who didn't see this coming.
 
2012-11-13 10:09:02 PM  
I called it.
 
2012-11-13 10:27:34 PM  

Earguy: If anything, it can be an education to the world that being gay does not equal pedophile, even if you work with children.


This

On the cover it looks like another Church scandal. But we know from our experience (at least most of us) that big bird, grover, or any other androgynous puppet would ever rape us.
 
2012-11-13 10:35:21 PM  
Who in the industry did this guy piss off?
 
2012-11-13 10:35:59 PM  
I knew this would happen.
 
2012-11-13 10:36:23 PM  

TheJoe03: Who in the industry did this guy piss off?


Big Bird?
 
2012-11-13 10:38:27 PM  

NowhereMon: Yup, I had a scoutmaster and an English teacher that were both accused of this and both were eventually cleared. Neither were able to return to the work they loved.


Except Sesame Workshop already did their own investigation months ago and backed Clash up. It would be awfully cowardly of them to back down.
 
2012-11-13 10:38:34 PM  
Interestingly, it seems everyone had his back throughout the ordeal.
 
2012-11-13 10:38:49 PM  

OregonVet: Earguy: If anything, it can be an education to the world that being gay does not equal pedophile, even if you work with children.

This

On the cover it looks like another Church scandal. But we know from our experience (at least most of us) that big bird, grover, or any other androgynous puppet would ever rape us.


To be fair, we've been sticking our hands up their asses for years and you don't hear them complaining
 
2012-11-13 10:39:01 PM  
Well shiat, there goes the gay parody porn "Dick-le me, Elmo".
 
2012-11-13 10:40:04 PM  

CraicBaby: Sexual orientation doesn't matter. It's the accusation that he had sex with someone who was underage that will ruin his career, even if it was retracted. People only hear the initial accusation. They rarely see the retraction.


I agree in principle regarding anyone's "orientation". I guess when I consider a person minutiae is to which people may latch. Actions are different. Billionaires are much more suspect. especially those with a reputation of helping childrens.
 
2012-11-13 10:43:24 PM  

Sbdolan: TheJoe03: Who in the industry did this guy piss off?

Big Bird?


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-13 10:43:31 PM  
Also brought to you by the letter S, for "Secret" and the letter O for "Out of court settlement in exchange for a recant to avoid a painful and tenuous trial."
 
2012-11-13 10:43:39 PM  

coeyagi: Well shiat, there goes the gay parody porn "Dick-le me, Elmo".


Made me laugh so hard.
 
2012-11-13 10:50:01 PM  
sesame street has deep pockets.
 
2012-11-13 10:50:48 PM  

arbitterm: Also brought to you by the letter S, for "Secret" and the letter O for "Out of court settlement in exchange for a recant to avoid a painful and tenuous trial."


Probably we should throw in T for "trade-offs" and A for "association" before reams -no pun intended- of reports come out for other infractions.
 
2012-11-13 10:53:09 PM  

CraicBaby: Sexual orientation doesn't matter. It's the accusation that he had sex with someone who was underage that will ruin his career, even if it was retracted. People only hear the initial accusation. They rarely see the retraction.


Its 2012 not 1981. This will blow over and he will be fine.
 
2012-11-13 10:54:46 PM  

Waldo Pepper: sesame street has deep pockets.


If they did, don't you think they would have been FOR Romney like every other rich entity in the country?
 
2012-11-13 10:56:15 PM  

TheJoe03: Who in the industry did this guy piss off?


Mr. Noodle?
 
2012-11-13 10:56:45 PM  

FightDirector: Waldo Pepper: sesame street has deep pockets.

If they did, don't you think they would have been FOR Romney like every other rich entity in the country?


Warren Buffet
 
2012-11-13 10:58:24 PM  

NowhereMon: CraicBaby: People only hear the initial accusation. They rarely see the retraction.

Yup, I had a scoutmaster and an English teacher that were both accused of this and both were eventually cleared. Neither were able to return to the work they loved.


How do you know they didn't do it?
 
2012-11-13 11:14:48 PM  

Earguy: CraicBaby: Sad. His career is ruined now no matter what.

Nah, I think he'll be okay. In his circle, being gay is no big deal. If anything, it can be an education to the world that being gay does not equal pedophile, even if you work with children.


I know what you're talking about but a good part of America is pretty...dense when it comes to understanding "gay =/= pedophile".
 
2012-11-13 11:17:36 PM  

Earguy: Nah, I think he'll be okay. In his circle, being gay is no big deal.


What circle is that? Plenty of parents want the people who entertain their pre-schoolers to be squeaky clean. So he didn't do anything illegal, but having a gay relationship with someone almost 30 years younger than him still comes off as scandalous. And the abrupt way the retraction came leaves room for a lot of speculation.

Send Elmo over to Avenue Q.
 
2012-11-13 11:18:02 PM  
So the 47-year old waited until the kid was 18 to nail him? Whew! Technically legal=totally acceptable.
 
2012-11-13 11:22:46 PM  
Well Elmo did know where he lived...
 
2012-11-13 11:24:12 PM  

arbitterm: Also brought to you by the letter S, for "Secret" and the letter O for "Out of court settlement in exchange for a recant to avoid a painful and tenuous trial."


Exactly. If this were a CEO of a large corporation or a Republican Congressperson every dang person in this thread would agree with you.

But, it's an entertainer we like, so no biggie. I mean, all he did was start a relationship with a sixteen year old and then have sex with him two years later. Or earlier, but the guy changed his story. Nothing to see here.
 
2012-11-13 11:30:41 PM  

CraicBaby: Sad. His career is ruined now no matter what.


Nope. He might be gay, but he's not a woman. These sorts of thing only ruin careers at PBS is the employee is a woman.
 
2012-11-13 11:40:05 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: Earguy: Nah, I think he'll be okay. In his circle, being gay is no big deal.

What circle is that? Plenty of parents want the people who entertain their pre-schoolers to be squeaky clean.


Should have never done that documentary. Now they all know who he is and what he does.
 
2012-11-13 11:45:05 PM  

CraicBaby: People only hear the initial accusation. They rarely see the retraction.


Yeah, because the initial accusation was on the Main page, while the retraction is buried on the Entertainment tab.
 
2012-11-13 11:49:49 PM  
Gloomy maze....Hiding the sun all day!
On my way to where the air is sweet!
Can you tell me how to flee....How to flee from Sesame Street?
 
2012-11-13 11:52:59 PM  
Kevin Clash: Should he stay or should he go?
 
2012-11-14 12:00:53 AM  
So the first story is on the main page, but the recant/clearing is only in the entertainment tab?

Hurm.
 
2012-11-14 12:06:19 AM  

fqhollis: So the first story is on the main page, but the recant/clearing is only in the entertainment tab?

Hurm.


This burying of the truth brought to you by the guy who wants you to have a seat over there.
 
2012-11-14 12:12:07 AM  
Who cares about the whole gay / inappropriate relationship thing. I'm still in shock over a very large African American male being the voice of Elmo. I've known this for years, but still can't seem to accept it as truth.
 
2012-11-14 12:17:25 AM  
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arbitterm: Also brought to you by the letter S, for "Secret" and the letter O for "Out of court settlement in exchange for a recant to avoid a painful and tenuous trial."


Strongly suspect this. No way would the higher ups allow their $500 million brand that relies on parents and children to be dragged through a well-publicized pedophilia trial. Wish the accusations were false, but the way this recantation has been handled leads me to believe otherwise that Seasame Street is pulling a Penn State.
 
2012-11-14 12:25:58 AM  
You gotta go with Bert and Ernie coming by to break his kneecaps if he didn't recant.
 
2012-11-14 12:27:53 AM  
I suspect a 23 year old guy somewhere just purchased a very expensive new sports car...
 
2012-11-14 12:28:07 AM  
He wants it to be known that his sexual relationship with Mr. Clash was an adult consensual relationship,

So this must have happened after he turned 18? Something went south with their relationship.
 
2012-11-14 12:28:48 AM  

gingerjet: CraicBaby: Sexual orientation doesn't matter. It's the accusation that he had sex with someone who was underage that will ruin his career, even if it was retracted. People only hear the initial accusation. They rarely see the retraction.

Its 2012 not 1981. This will blow over and he will be fine.


See Bryant, Kobe.
 
2012-11-14 12:29:26 AM  
John Tartaglia is a Sesame Street alum (also had a show on Disney Channel) and also gay, so it's not that big of a deal. I don't think being a gay man will hurt Kevin Clash at all. Also, if the guy was legal while he was having sex with him, who cares what the age difference is? That's why we have age of consent. The whole issue was if he was having sex with a minor- which I guess we'll never find out thanks to a settlement or a threatened libel suit.

Now can we all just agree that Grover is way better than Elmo and move on?
 
2012-11-14 12:30:51 AM  
Show me on the Elmo doll, where he touched you...
 
2012-11-14 12:31:16 AM  
Obvious what happened - Clash finally paid up. This was a shakedown, but Elmo should have blinked a lot sooner as he will forever be tarnished by this.
 
2012-11-14 12:38:12 AM  

"Sexual orientation doesn't matter. It's the accusation that he had sex with someone who was underage that will ruin his career, even if it was retracted."


He's not some Average Joe working slob. He's in entertainment and probably has access to good lawyers and gets goos advice. Besides his own employer found no grounds for the accusations. I doubt his career is ruined, and I'd be surprised if he lost his job.

 
2012-11-14 12:38:49 AM  
While Kevin gets along real good with kids, he had the good sense to wait until boy was 18.
 
2012-11-14 12:38:57 AM  
The big issue is the damage to the sesame street brand going forward. The more closed minded individuals will boycott and raise a stink to where it may hurt product sales.
 
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