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(The Consumerist)   Because I'm sure their readers are a completely unbiased sample group, Consumerist asks if it's ever acceptable for waiters to be unpleasant   (consumerist.com) divider line 20
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2012-11-13 07:51:43 PM  
3 votes:
Wow.

Less than 50 comments in and we already have repeat sightings of Brokeass Dickus. Go to Yelp to flesh out this species of deadbeat who insists on dining up one notch -- or more -- higher than he or she (often she) can truly afford all the while intending to stiff staff for imagined slights and otherwise extract additional "value" from what they perceive to be impossibly costly dining fare.

Never waited tables in my life, but I can cook more than a little. Are some joints rip-offs? Absolutely. Some staff poorly trained? No doubt. But if you go in looking for fight and an excuse to hoard coins, I guarantee you'll find it.

Dickus, do us all a favor and stay home, eat your Ramen, and learn some money-making skillz.
2012-11-13 07:46:18 PM  
2 votes:
The article is talking about "service that's perfunctory or dismissive." I'd prefer that service to some grinning, over-enthusiastic retard with 400 pieces of flair.
2012-11-13 07:32:09 PM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: SNOOTY WAIT STAFF THREAD!!!


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2012-11-13 07:14:46 PM  
2 votes:
And irregardless of what you claim, 15% is a standard tip in this country.
2012-11-13 07:12:46 PM  
2 votes:
The answer is no. They're being paid to be pleasant.
2012-11-13 07:12:37 PM  
2 votes:
I'm sure this doesn't happen everywhere but I've worked as a waiter and have seen waiter/waitresses fark with a person's food instead of being straight out rude to a bad table. So if you're being an asshole to your waiter, but they aren't giving you attitude back I'd be worried about your meal or drink.
2012-11-13 07:06:26 PM  
2 votes:
I am very nice, and usually have no problem, but if staff treats me like shiat, bad day or not I don't care, I will stand up and walk out of the establishment, I have done it before.
2012-11-13 06:56:31 PM  
2 votes:
I'd say absolutely not, unless you're dealing with the sort of mentally deficient, self-absorbed, irresponsible, blame-flinging vacuous asshat who frequents the Consumerist and answers its polls.
2012-11-13 09:39:39 PM  
1 votes:

maram500: Z-clipped: Unless you're at a restaurant that has an explicit "we're rude to you as part of the charm" shtick, then you should expect professionalism consummate with what you're paying for the experience. That's why waiters in nice restaurants get 18-20% of a higher bill. They are (or at least should be) professionals. If you're paying $30+ for an entree, you should expect your waiter to be courteous and helpful no matter what happens at the table.


Moreover, a professional waiter should be perceptive enough to figure out whether you want attentive, actively helpful service (i.e. "the show") or reserved, invisible ninja service within the first 10 seconds at the table.

Also, if you don't like your waitress's facial piercings, takeit up with the owner or manager. He's the one who decides what the atmosphere of the place should be, and sets the appearance standards.

All this applies if you have a goddamn coupon, too, right?


Of course. Just tip on the pre-discounted amount for maximum classy points.

Your waiter may make some initial assumptions about you based on your use of a coupon, depending on his or her previous experiences at that restaurant... you can't really help that. BUT, you shouldn't be able to tell what those assumptions are based on the service you get. There's no excuse for letting assumptions color a guest's experience.

Of course, the above is a measure of professionalism, and is therefore going to apply variably.
2012-11-13 08:09:04 PM  
1 votes:

acidsurfer: The article is talking about "service that's perfunctory or dismissive." I'd prefer that service to some grinning, over-enthusiastic retard with 400 pieces of flair.


To me a good waiter invisibly refills your drinks and gets what you order. I don't really want to have a conversation, and I REALLY don't want them to sit down at my table.
2012-11-13 08:06:03 PM  
1 votes:

maram500: Ooh, look, I used a coupon I got e-mailed. I'm a cheapskate asshat, aren't I? Maybe he could have thought again when my bill reached fifty bucks, plus another twenty in liquor.


People who use coupons are overwhelmingly more likely to be cheap about their tip, regardless of how much they spend.

That means a server with limited time is doing the smart thing by spending as little time and effort as possible on those tables and focusing on the ones who are more likely to be profitable.

It's just basic sense, and it's what our current system rewards. Don't be surprised/angry that servers are out to try to maximize the value of their own time. They'd be stupid not to.
2012-11-13 07:55:02 PM  
1 votes:
There's a kosher delicatessen a couple of streets over from Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills and they do the whole asshole New Yorker schtick. If you see it as commentary on tourists in general New Yorkers in particular, which is what it's meant to be, it's more than a little amusing and if you keep cracking up they're not usually able to keep a straight face for very long either.  Order pastrami and Swiss but substitute challah bread for the rye just to hear the gagging noises they make.
2012-11-13 07:31:40 PM  
1 votes:

Heist: MrHappyRotter: And irregardless of what you claim, 15% is a standard tip in this country.

4/10

May have some bites, but the "irregardless" is way too obvious.


Imagine that. Another Farker with a broken sarcasmometer. All too common these days.
2012-11-13 07:30:33 PM  
1 votes:
The last time I can recall not tipping it was a combo of a rude waiter, a screwed up order that the waiter told me to "deal with", and on vacation so there was no chance I'd go back. On the tip line of the CC slip I just wrote, "You're an asshole."

I wonder if his manager ever saw that?
2012-11-13 07:17:51 PM  
1 votes:

MrHappyRotter: And irregardless of what you claim, 15% is a standard tip in this country.


4/10

May have some bites, but the "irregardless" is way too obvious.
2012-11-13 07:17:34 PM  
1 votes:

skinink: I'm sure this doesn't happen everywhere but I've worked as a waiter and have seen waiter/waitresses fark with a person's food instead of being straight out rude to a bad table. So if you're being an asshole to your waiter, but they aren't giving you attitude back I'd be worried about your meal or drink.


Indeed -- don't fark with the waitstaff until after there's no opportunity left to fark with your food. That's why you stay smiley & cheerful, then leave a $0.02 tip.
2012-11-13 07:12:28 PM  
1 votes:
Pretty sure most wait staff could care less wither it's acceptable or not. Similar to how they could care less whether its acceptable to have disgusting facial piercings and conversations with their coworkers about their last drug score.
2012-11-13 07:10:50 PM  
1 votes:
Is it OK for an xyz to fail at their job?
2012-11-13 07:04:03 PM  
1 votes:
If the waitstaff is biatchy then a) I'm going to be worried about bodily fluids in my food, and b) I'm never going back.

And also c) I'm stiffing them on the tip, obviously.
2012-11-13 04:22:26 PM  
1 votes:
They don't have to be overly cheery or anything, but they have to be competent. Period.

Most people can tell when you're just having a bad day and the good ones tip accordingly.
 
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