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2012-11-13 05:52:52 PM

ashinmytomatoes: [media-cache-lt0.pinterest.com image 291x750]


+1
 
2012-11-13 05:56:55 PM
fMRI is pretty good. They have been able to resolve images from people's dreams. Also able to tell if an experience is unique. Frightening wonderful stuff.
 
2012-11-13 05:59:51 PM
www2.tbo.com
 
2012-11-13 06:11:07 PM

dopekitty74: mab1823: If I'm ever able to only communicate the word "one," my family has the authority to pull the plug.

Thought of this too. Have you ever read the book?

Johnny got his Gun - Dalton Trumbo

gripping stuff... One of the "heaviest" books I've read IYKWIM


I haven't read it, and I don't think I want to. The mere idea of it all gives me the heebie-jeebies. It's like a top 5 nightmare scenario.
 
2012-11-13 06:21:18 PM

Old Man Winter: Seems legit.
But doesn't some researcher claim this every few years, only to have it be refuted by ten other a few months later?
"You asked a series of 50 questions and half fit your theory and half were completely off."


9 out of 10 dead salmon agree that fMRI is a reliable method of observing consciousness.
 
2012-11-13 06:25:46 PM

zabadu: gja: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 176x261]



Pfffft, amateur.

Damn you! What was her name again? I'm going nuts here.


 Oh sweet Jesus where am I and what did I do last night? I'll never mix quaaludes and daquiries again. Hey. what does it take to get some aspirin around here? What is this OHJESUSCHRISTIHAVETUBESINMYNOSE

Hugs and Kisses,
Karen Anne Quinlan
 
2012-11-13 06:39:39 PM
it would be funnie if he was an oxycontin addict in his past life and just said he was in pain to see if he could get meds
 
2012-11-13 06:41:16 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: it would be funnie if he was an oxycontin addict in his past life and just said he was in pain to see if he could get meds


I too was sad that House ended in the way it did.
 
2012-11-13 06:50:25 PM
i1171.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-13 07:36:34 PM
Did they ask him if he'd like to have his respirator turned off?
 
2012-11-13 08:04:18 PM
To be a debbie downer, this is the exact same Dr. Owen who was tricked by one of those "facilitated communication" charlatans into thinking one of his coma patients could type and write about a year ago. Quite a few news outlets ran the story about the coma patient's "miraculous recovery" until someone figured it out, and they issued retractions.
 
2012-11-13 08:19:40 PM
www.vanderbilt.edu

I could've told you that much from watching a youtube clip, duh.
 
2012-11-13 08:39:02 PM
I don't know about this doc and this patient, but I do know (anecdotally of course) that there is over diagnosis of persistent vegetative states. My wife's sister was in a horrible car accident about 25 years ago. They were convinced she was in a persistent vegetative state, but it turns out that she has gotten parts of herself back over the last quarter century. She can carry on a conversation, though she can be a bit difficult to understand at times. She has a sense of humour. She is bored out of her tree, since the nursing home she is confined to doesn't provide a lot of stimulation, and she doesn't seem to trust the staff enough to actually talk to them. She only talks to family, don't know why.

On the minus side? She still has a feeding tube. She is half paralysed. She is blind in one eye. One side is basically dead, and there is not enough money in Wisconsin's state budget to pay for something more than basic keeping her living kind of care. She uses diapers or a bedpan. She will never live on her own again.

Given all that, my wife is still convinced that in the same situation she would have preferred to have died, rather than live out 25 years like her sister has, gradually regaining conscious thought but never being able to really live again. The sister was only 29 at the time and had no advanced directives, living will and all that. She lost everything, including her son, who could never stand to see his mom like that (he was in the accident too at age 9). The son died this past spring.

I'm not convinced she is much enjoying life either.

Situations with this "vegetative" patient (assuming this guy is for real) are definitely illuminating in terms of brain function, brain activity and how little we really know, but tell us nothing about life as an experience.
 
2012-11-13 08:44:43 PM
Probably responsible for all the Daily Fail greens.
 
2012-11-13 09:50:17 PM

ashinmytomatoes: [media-cache-lt0.pinterest.com image 291x750]


Best slippery slope EVAR.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2012-11-13 10:03:52 PM

gravy chugging cretin.: zabadu: gja: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 176x261]



Pfffft, amateur.

Damn you! What was her name again? I'm going nuts here.

 Oh sweet Jesus where am I and what did I do last night? I'll never mix quaaludes and daquiries again. Hey. what does it take to get some aspirin around here? What is this OHJESUSCHRISTIHAVETUBESINMYNOSE

Hugs and Kisses,
Karen Anne Quinlan


DING DING DING!!!!! Winner winner chicken dinner.

She was the original case that set the tone for the whole "persistent vegetative state" court precedence.
It was a massively discussed (often loudly and heatedly) case.
Also, when her body finally gave out the resulting brain forensic exam shed a new light on the function and importance of the thalamus as a central part of conscious existence and thought.
 
2012-11-14 12:04:30 AM
KNows location of Obama's real father. Will never be allowed to wake up.
 
2012-11-14 01:06:22 AM

solokumba: waiting to smell the glove


It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black.
 
2012-11-14 05:51:35 AM

bitchqueen: hestheone: Iworkformsn: BronyMedic: Ladies and gentlemen...

There's a reason for advanced care planning and directives. 99.995% of people who end up like this will never be like this.

Ask yourself what you'd want your life to be like. If you view being cared for 24/7, while defecating and urinating onto yourself constantly or into a bag, being fed through a tube in your stomach that frequently leaked or caused skin infections, and constantly having to be treated through numerous respiratory infections, urosepsis, and skin breakdowns/ulcerations is worth it.

Some people don't view that as a life they'd want to live.

Don't you go gettin' all death panel on me!

I am pretty sure people in that state do not care one way or another.

Humanity has a duty to prolong the biological function of any meat sack.  It's not like the resources could be better put to use.

Nice reverse troll.

8/10
You gave it away without any misspelling, bipartisan ranting, or Fartbongo
Classy though.


I hafta say, if I ended up in that state but still experienced REM sleep, I'd like to stay alive even if I can only "live" while I'm asleep and dreaming. I have narcolepsy so my dreams are as vivid as anything when I'm awake and feel as real as life--which isn't common I don't think. So. Maybe I'm weird for wanting that.
 
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