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2012-11-13 08:01:59 PM  
5-1 this was an ALEC bill. Anything really, REALLY stupid that passes at the state level is usually from ALEC.
 
2012-11-13 08:03:38 PM  

Aarontology: State officials say the new document requirements haven't uncovered any undocumented immigrants.

Hughes estimates about 1,300 doctors and other medical practitioners have lost their legal ability to work.

Yep. That's about all you need to know about these retarded laws.


this is what you get when you pass laws based on gut reaction, emotions. and racial hatred.
 
2012-11-13 08:04:54 PM  
Republicans are so afraid of brown people that they make things harder on themselves and everyone else just to "correct" problems that don't exist.
The midnight train to Georgia will need to see your papers, please.
We can't have illegal immigrants running around takin ar jerbs!
this is what you get when you pass laws based on gut reaction, emotions. and racial hatred.
 
2012-11-13 08:05:03 PM  
Oh, another example of "small government".
 
2012-11-13 08:05:25 PM  
FTR-It is not just the nurses and doctors affected by the law. ANY government service provided has to be submitted with the Affadavit and a copies of citizenship (Certified Birth Certificates with seal, Passports, etc). All the departments have had staffing cuts and no raises since 2008. It's a farking hell hole to work in.
 
2012-11-13 08:06:22 PM  

electronsexparty: Republicans are so afraid of brown people that they make things harder on themselves and everyone else just to "correct" problems that don't exist. Guess their mommas never told them that cutting off their nose to spite their face does no one any good.


Especially when the surgeons who would happily reattach it can't because they're not legally allowed to operate until their applications for renewal get processed.

Wah wah wahhhh...
 
2012-11-13 08:09:10 PM  

relcec: The law requires everyone - no matter where they were born - to prove their citizenship or legal residency to renew their professional licenses.

WE ARE ACTING LIKE THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.


So.... You're okay with socialized medicine then?
 
2012-11-13 08:12:28 PM  
You gonna get reaped what you sowed.

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2012-11-13 08:22:26 PM  

DrPainMD: But... but... but... without regulation, we'll have chaos. It'll be just like Somalia. Do you want to live in Somalia?

(this is what liberal farkers actually believe. they say it here every day)


This is the classic textbook case of pointless overregulation. Brought to you by rightwing derp.
 
2012-11-13 08:27:28 PM  

Dog Welder: ComicBookGuy: Lemme guess: retarded conservative Republicans are behind this?

Nope. Obama's fault.

Everything bad is Obama's fault.

Did you not get the memo?


MEMO

To: Farkistan
Re: Memo jokes

This is an actual memo to inform you that "didn't get the memo" jokes are not funny, and stopped being funny about a few seconds after their discovery. When someone predictably says "I guess you didn't get the memo," you can reply that you DID receive a memo warning you about their cliche'd joke, but you have been advised AGAINST asking them if they also got this memo. Assume they didn't. Thank you.
 
2012-11-13 08:34:18 PM  

jj325: And the argument against them seceding is......


Nuts, I thought that would be it.
 
2012-11-13 08:41:56 PM  
Good way to get rid of acupuncture
 
2012-11-13 09:04:57 PM  

DrPainMD: But... but... but... without regulation, we'll have chaos. It'll be just like Somalia. Do you want to live in Somalia?

(this is what liberal farkers actually believe. they say it here every day)



Keep it up, retard, and you will.
 
2012-11-13 09:17:20 PM  
Hundreds of health care workers in Georgia are losing their licenses to practice because of a problem created by a new immigration law in the state. sneaking into the United States illegally and taking jobs that only citizens should have.


/Cry me a river. You don't see me skulking into mexico and demanding full rights. Why should we let you do it? You took a job under false citizenship, now you lose. Get out.
 
2012-11-13 09:22:55 PM  
So, if they can't produce a valid copy of a birth record,,,,get the fark out of my country!!!!!!

This goes for the so called person they elected a few days ago.

By the way, I can produce mine at any time, keep the damn thing in my safe deposit box.
 
2012-11-13 09:34:04 PM  
Keep laughing. Those same gubmint workers will now be fingering your health care information. I work for the Department of Human Services, the changes are coming fast. I've worked for three fortune 500 companies before landing here and the contrast is amazing. Everyone gets the same percentage of pay increase. It doesn't matter what you do as long as you refrain from the 4 immediate termination

Undulation: Step 1 - Cut staff in departments by 40%
Step 2 - Quadruple their workload
Step 3 - Blame ineffective government agency for failing to enforce poorly designed law

What this really looks like is a move by Georgia against two distinct groups of people whose beliefs are counter to the GOP belief system, government workers and medical workers. Those who embrace medicine embrace Science, which is everything the GOP is now against. Of course government workers are and always will be people of terrible character, freeloaders and incompetents the lot of them.

A privatized licensing agency could do an even worse job slightly faster and at only double the cost.


Faster, yes. Worse job? Compared to government workers? No. Double the cost? No, government is ALWAYS more expensive. I've managed in a fortune 500 company and I've managed in State Government. It's not even close. One is merit based and pays based on performance. The other is unionized and pay increases happen for everyone regardless of performance. In government, most of the heard works just hard enough to keep from getting fired... The others move on.
 
2012-11-13 09:36:52 PM  
I get the most incredible feeling of joy and satisfaction from other peoples' struggles. Right now, it's like I'm using some drugs and doing some sex at the same time.
 
2012-11-13 09:46:14 PM  

impaler: Aarontology: State officials say the new document requirements haven't uncovered any undocumented immigrants.

Hughes estimates about 1,300 doctors and other medical practitioners have lost their legal ability to work.

Yep. That's about all you need to know about these retarded laws.

Today's GOP: creating real problems in an attempt to solve non-existent ones.


That's the story of the Georgia General Assembly, which goes back into session in January with essentially a GOP supermajority. We're going to need our own tag.
 
2012-11-13 09:50:58 PM  

Pockafrusta: Keep laughing. Those same gubmint workers will now be fingering your health care information. I work for the Department of Human Services, the changes are coming fast. I've worked for three fortune 500 companies before landing here and the contrast is amazing. Everyone gets the same percentage of pay increase. It doesn't matter what you do as long as you refrain from the 4 immediate terminationUndulation: Step 1 - Cut staff in departments by 40%
Step 2 - Quadruple their workload
Step 3 - Blame ineffective government agency for failing to enforce poorly designed law

What this really looks like is a move by Georgia against two distinct groups of people whose beliefs are counter to the GOP belief system, government workers and medical workers. Those who embrace medicine embrace Science, which is everything the GOP is now against. Of course government workers are and always will be people of terrible character, freeloaders and incompetents the lot of them.

A privatized licensing agency could do an even worse job slightly faster and at only double the cost.

Faster, yes. Worse job? Compared to government workers? No. Double the cost? No, government is ALWAYS more expensive. I've managed in a fortune 500 company and I've managed in State Government. It's not even close. One is merit based and pays based on performance. The other is unionized and pay increases happen for everyone regardless of performance. In government, most of the heard works just hard enough to keep from getting fired... The others move on.


Well, at least they're heard.
 
2012-11-13 09:54:55 PM  
Georgia did just fine before these socialist "health care workers" came around with their "medicine". I mean, what is wrong with a good old fashioned bloodletting or using leeches. Trepanning was used for thousands of years to cure all sorts of diseases. Says so right the the Bible.
 
2012-11-13 10:00:20 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Enactment of the law coincided with budget cuts that reduced the office staff by 40 percent.

So .... maybe states can't do it better than the Federal Government? Can you imagine their implementation of Romneycare?


I'm praying Governor Deal will be obstinate about healthcare so that the Federal government will be forced to come in and set-up our health care system because I know it will be better if the Federal government handles it. I have a lot of dear, sweet Republican friends who think the state could handle it better. None of them were born and raised in Georgia.They just don't have the history to fully understand.
 
2012-11-13 10:05:29 PM  

Xploder: Dinjiin: relcec: WE ARE ACTING LIKE THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.

The problem isn't that they are checking residency. The problem is that the state doesn't have enough people to check for residency. And as the article notes, they are accepting residency papers at face value with no system to detect fraud.

In short: good idea, terrible execution. That's why people are mad.

How the HELL is it a good idea? From the article: "Donald Palmisano Jr. executive director of the Medical Association of Georgia, says the law fixes a problem that never existed - at least not among doctors. "We're not aware of any undocumented immigrants that are physicians," Palmisano said."

A problem that NEVER existed among doctors...so let's fark things up to the point where doctors lose their licenses?


Well, we have too many doctors anyway. In some regions of the state, there is a doctor in every county.
 
2012-11-13 10:09:16 PM  
relcec (farkied: Douchebag who uses "Democrat" as an adjective): The law requires everyone - no matter where they were born - to prove their citizenship or legal residency to renew their professional licenses.

WE ARE ACTING LIKE THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.


So you're saying the rest of the civilized world adds pointless government bureaucracy (whining about pointless government bureaucracy all the while), refuses to pay the taxes needed to fund the pointless government bureaucracy and then wonders why they get such predictable results as this?
 
2012-11-13 10:11:31 PM  

zenobia: impaler: Aarontology: State officials say the new document requirements haven't uncovered any undocumented immigrants.

Hughes estimates about 1,300 doctors and other medical practitioners have lost their legal ability to work.

Yep. That's about all you need to know about these retarded laws.

Today's GOP: creating real problems in an attempt to solve non-existent ones.

That's the story of the Georgia General Assembly, which goes back into session in January with essentially a GOP supermajority. We're going to need our own tag.


Sadly, I fear that we'll see more dangerous, short-sighted legislation in the next year or two. I have Congressman Bishop's address handy, if you want it...
 
2012-11-13 10:12:10 PM  
relcec (farkied: Douchebag who uses "Democrat" as an adjective): notwithstanding, slowing both legal and illegal immigration is the only reasonable response to an over stuffed labor market however.

Yes, there are so many millions of doctors and nurses cramming into semi trailers and sneaking over the border.
 
2012-11-13 10:14:40 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Hundreds of health care workers in Georgia are losing their licenses to practice because of a problem created by a new immigration law in the state. sneaking into the United States illegally and taking jobs that only citizens should have.


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2012-11-13 10:18:53 PM  

relcec: entitygm: Ugh this state is an embarrassment sometimes. Earlier this year they drove most of the illegals out..

Predictably the farmers started crying foul uz nobody else would do that work for barely better than slave wages



weird that you think getting the slaves back for them is the solution here.


Oh, shut up. I ran into a real life version of you recently in a store - a former neighbor. We ended up on the same aisle and he was looking at me so I said "Hi xx, how are you?" He began the conversation with a bizarre comment stating "Most American women now-a-days have five or six abortions." I tried to politely turn the conversation to talk about cookies. He started yelling at me in the store. He started ranting about immigrants and Hispanics, dehumanizing an entire category of people, saying "They're not like you and me ..."

This man knows that my own family includes an internationally adopted child. He knows that many of the very people he was ranting about are our friends. We still visit them. The kids still go to each others' birthday parties.

Yes, he's "working class", if you overlook the fact that he hasn't worked in over 20 years. He was fired and per long-time neighbors that have known him longer than I have, he never looked for another job. He immediately assumed the mantle of the ultimate victim. He can't find a job because women work for less pay, affirmative action gives jobs to blacks, and now because of Hispanics.

He doesn't care about the working class and neither do you. All either of you care about is feeling sorry for yourselves, hating, and scapegoating others.
 
2012-11-13 10:46:41 PM  
Ladies and Gentlemen, the Republican Party! 

/Give them ol' boys a hand
 
2012-11-13 10:58:30 PM  

Gabrielmot: Here's some advice... fire Director LaSharn Hughes. Clearly this job is too hard for her and clearly she's undeserving for whatever pay you are giving her.


You really think there are people out there that can do a decent job of this without the necessary equipment, staff, and funding to accomplish it? Have you sent in your application and resume?
 
2012-11-13 11:41:58 PM  

DrPainMD: But... but... but... without regulation, we'll have chaos. It'll be just like Somalia. Do you want to live in Somalia?

(this is what liberal farkers actually believe. they say it here every day)


LOL, you're trying to blame this mess on liberals?

/Nice troll. Thanks for the belly laugh!
 
2012-11-13 11:45:07 PM  

Pockafrusta: Keep laughing. Those same gubmint workers will now be fingering your health care information. I work for the Department of Human Services, the changes are coming fast. I've worked for three fortune 500 companies before landing here and the contrast is amazing. Everyone gets the same percentage of pay increase. It doesn't matter what you do as long as you refrain from the 4 immediate terminationUndulation: Step 1 - Cut staff in departments by 40%
Step 2 - Quadruple their workload
Step 3 - Blame ineffective government agency for failing to enforce poorly designed law

What this really looks like is a move by Georgia against two distinct groups of people whose beliefs are counter to the GOP belief system, government workers and medical workers. Those who embrace medicine embrace Science, which is everything the GOP is now against. Of course government workers are and always will be people of terrible character, freeloaders and incompetents the lot of them.

A privatized licensing agency could do an even worse job slightly faster and at only double the cost.

Faster, yes. Worse job? Compared to government workers? No. Double the cost? No, government is ALWAYS more expensive.


The city I live in has been in 'business' for more than three hundred years, taking i revenue and, in exchange, providing services to its citizens...much linger longer than any currently traded company on the NYSE.

By way of contrast....how's your Enron stock doing?

My point is, might want to put down the broad brush. Working in ONE company isn't a compelling data set.
 
2012-11-13 11:45:10 PM  
small government + root out all the brown people = bag of peach tea
 
2012-11-13 11:49:43 PM  

jj325: And the argument against them seceding is......


no more Coke?
 
2012-11-13 11:52:27 PM  

relcec: not really. people are in here saying that checking for legal status is a horrible racist idea by small minded zenophobes. look around.


I just reviewed the entire thread and not one person, other than you, has brought that up in any way.

It might be time to have your meds adjusted. Or look into getting some. You may be seeing things that aren't there.
 
2012-11-14 12:02:29 AM  

DrPainMD: But... but... but... without regulation, we'll have chaos. It'll be just like Somalia. Do you want to live in Somalia?

(this is what liberal farkers actually believe. they say it here every day)


That's what ICE is for. Georgia is doing an even worse job than the feds.
 
2012-11-14 12:03:04 AM  
Filipino nurses will knife you in your sleep
 
2012-11-14 12:07:34 AM  

J3L2404: Republicans, claiming that government is inept and then proving themselves right.


The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it.
-PJ O'Rourke
 
2012-11-14 12:09:54 AM  

Hongcouver: Here in Canada the government encourages medical professionals to immigrate, but then won't recognize their credentials. The quickie mart across the street from my old office was run by a pharmacist from Iran. Doctors are driving cabs but you can't find a GP to save your life. I had an apprentice technician working with me who had a masters degree in electrical engineering. The stupid is everywhere, not just the pork rind states.


Well...Georgia is full of stupid. This, however, is not as bad as one may think. The initial period of proving one's citizenship is time consuming and painful (DMV licensing included), However, after that, it will be a breeze to renew. Plus, there will be a lot less of an illegal population drag on Georgia's economy.....once it adjusts.
 
2012-11-14 12:12:35 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: Filipino nurses will knife you in your sleep


Well, if you press the call button 40 times a night then yes this is possible.
 
2012-11-14 12:30:41 AM  
We just passed one of those stupid laws here, except it's for anyone who applies for social services. So the dirty illegals won't be taking our welfare.

It passed overwhelmingly too. I can't wait for the long backlog of applications for food stamps, unemployment, and other bennies. I suppose that will be the illegals' fault too.
 
2012-11-14 12:32:08 AM  

jbezorg: relcec: The law requires everyone - no matter where they were born - to prove their citizenship or legal residency to renew their professional licenses.

WE ARE ACTING LIKE THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.

So.... You're okay with socialized medicine then?


single payer universal, I'm the biggest proponent on fark.
socialized medicine, no thanks.
why do you ask?
 
2012-11-14 12:49:38 AM  

Lunaville: relcec: entitygm: Ugh this state is an embarrassment sometimes. Earlier this year they drove most of the illegals out..

Predictably the farmers started crying foul uz nobody else would do that work for barely better than slave wages



weird that you think getting the slaves back for them is the solution here.

Oh, shut up. I ran into a real life version of you recently in a store - a former neighbor. We ended up on the same aisle and he was looking at me so I said "Hi xx, how are you?" He began the conversation with a bizarre comment stating "Most American women now-a-days have five or six abortions." I tried to politely turn the conversation to talk about cookies. He started yelling at me in the store. He started ranting about immigrants and Hispanics, dehumanizing an entire category of people, saying "They're not like you and me ..."

This man knows that my own family includes an internationally adopted child. He knows that many of the very people he was ranting about are our friends. We still visit them. The kids still go to each others' birthday parties.

Yes, he's "working class", if you overlook the fact that he hasn't worked in over 20 years. He was fired and per long-time neighbors that have known him longer than I have, he never looked for another job. He immediately assumed the mantle of the ultimate victim. He can't find a job because women work for less pay, affirmative action gives jobs to blacks, and now because of Hispanics.

He doesn't care about the working class and neither do you. All either of you care about is feeling sorry for yourselves, hating, and scapegoating others.


Lunaville: relcec: entitygm: Ugh this state is an embarrassment sometimes. Earlier this year they drove most of the illegals out..

Predictably the farmers started crying foul uz nobody else would do that work for barely better than slave wages



weird that you think getting the slaves back for them is the solution here.

Oh, shut up. I ran into a real life version of you recently in a store - a former neighbor. We ended up on the same aisle and he was looking at me so I said "Hi xx, how are you?" He began the conversation with a bizarre comment stating "Most American women now-a-days have five or six abortions." I tried to politely turn the conversation to talk about cookies. He started yelling at me in the store. He started ranting about immigrants and Hispanics, dehumanizing an entire category of people, saying "They're not like you and me ..."


you don't know me at all kid.
I've never once said an unkind word about illegal immigrants. never. not in my entire f*cking life. I live in a state filled with these people, and
most of them are much harder working and much kinder and obviously more intelligent than you'll ever be.
the only remedy I've ever proscribed for their removal is to jail their employers (not them) who induce them to come here so they don't have to pay living wage to americans and whose unnaturally low wages then force externalities on the rest of society in the form of subsidies for their families and the subsidies of the working class they displace. I'm simply telling the truth, that increasing supply with cheaper substitute labor reduces the demand that everyone else can charge for their labor in this country, and this is a huge reason why the median wage for males has decreased insignificantly for males in this country since 1965 when immigration was significantly liberalized.
you call me a hate filled scapegoating bigot just like your friend for simply daring to tell the truth about decreasing wages and labor supply in the united states. go f*ck yourself you piece of garbage.
 
2012-11-14 12:50:48 AM  

Beowoolfie: relcec: not really. people are in here saying that checking for legal status is a horrible racist idea by small minded zenophobes. look around.

I just reviewed the entire thread and not one person, other than you, has brought that up in any way.

It might be time to have your meds adjusted. Or look into getting some. You may be seeing things that aren't there.


your reading comprehension really really sucks.
 
2012-11-14 01:26:35 AM  
As a resident of Georgia I have to imagine all of you decrying this law would have wanted to keep things the old way. These immigrants had NO RIGHTS, NO PROTECTION, were given what amounted to SLAVE WAGES. Humans shouldn't be treated that way, these immigrants who come to work in the US deserve the same, albeit limited, worker protection and wages that citizens of the US have.

But for the immigrants to have this they HAVE GOT TO come here legally. All you people say Georgia is stupid for instituting such a law need to check to see how this law compares to immigration policies not only from where these immigrants come from, but from other more socially leaning countries. Furthermore, talk to legal immigrants and see how they feel about all the illegal immigrants coming here lowering the wages they can get.

Also, relcec up here making all kinds of sense.
 
2012-11-14 02:21:12 AM  

Pockafrusta: No, government is ALWAYS more expensive.


Exactly what free-market forces would make privatizing legislatively-required paperwork cheaper? There's no control over the process, because the process is dictated by law. Contracts for services like this are generally awarded for fairly long terms because continuity of service is vital; any non-functional transitional period between contractees would be a violation of the government's duties to the citizens. And even if the contracts do have short terms they're reviewed by essentially the same process used to review the government employees (a process you deride in your post) and given the demand of exactly 1 the barriers to entry are all but insurmountable -- it's literally a winner-take-all monopoly market.

Don't get me wrong -- I'm all for private enterprise; in places where there is an actual liquid market it's usually the best solution. Even in places with a limited market it's viable solution, given the right controls. But if you think this sort of service would run any differently in private hands I can only assume that you're unwilling or unable to understand the economics of the situation.
 
2012-11-14 02:50:57 AM  

relcec: ClavellBCMI: Ahh, the GOP, operating under the principle "If it ain't broke, something is obviously broken, so we better fix it, so we can point at it and say we fixed an obviously broken thing!


can I just say something? and please know this isn't directed at you personally.

the thing that really disturbs me about people like you is one minute you will be quite sensibly wailing about the plight of the common man and working class and the 1%er fat cats that are paying less and less in wages every single year and the fact that unemployment is still hovering around 8%,
and then almost the very next minute (if the threads align properly) you'll be screaming if it ain't broke don't fix it with regards to encouraging a couple million foreign workers, that come from almost excursively from 3rd world nations, that are therefore willing to work for shiat wages, that come here in those massive numbers every single year and compete for jobs with already underemployed and underpaid American citizens, almost 45% of which who receive state subsidies for this deficiency caused by an overstuffed labor market.
Yet you seemingly suffer from no cognitive dissonance at all.

I mean, you seem like you have absolutely no idea you are working at diametrically opposed purposes here with your positions.
it's as if you are unaware the labor market is an actual market where the laws of supply and demand govern as surely as they do on the price of a commodity like eggs.

and then I realize you don't have nay idea they are related, and at the same time YOU actually think you are a bastion of enlightenment and truth in this nation, and this scares the f*ck out of me.

and then I realize that as deficient as you are, that you in fact are relatively educated and well read compared to your mouth breathing brethren, and that you vote, and then I just want to crawl up into a ball and weep over the state of ignorance among the class of people that participate in politics.




 


I'm sorry, you lost me and possibly several others at excursively.
 
2012-11-14 04:26:44 AM  
The Georgia racist trashbags ARE getting what they want: the departure of all doctors and nurses (no matter how skilled) who have funny-sounding names, so that their places can EVENTUALLY be filled by little Johnny Whitebread and his sister Suzie.
 
2012-11-14 04:52:12 AM  

jj325: And the argument against them seceding is......


They already run their government as poorly as they run their banks.
 
2012-11-14 05:33:28 AM  

Lunaville: Xploder: Dinjiin: relcec: WE ARE ACTING LIKE THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.

The problem isn't that they are checking residency. The problem is that the state doesn't have enough people to check for residency. And as the article notes, they are accepting residency papers at face value with no system to detect fraud.

In short: good idea, terrible execution. That's why people are mad.

How the HELL is it a good idea? From the article: "Donald Palmisano Jr. executive director of the Medical Association of Georgia, says the law fixes a problem that never existed - at least not among doctors. "We're not aware of any undocumented immigrants that are physicians," Palmisano said."

A problem that NEVER existed among doctors...so let's fark things up to the point where doctors lose their licenses?

Well, we have too many doctors anyway. In some regions of the state, there is a doctor in every county.


I sometimes feel the same way here in Michigan. Got a certified letter yesterday telling me that my last back injection was from, of course, the same batch that caused the viral meningitis outbreaks. Maybe that's why I was so sick that I couldn't get out of bed for six weeks and have been sick on and off ever since. Couldn't get an appointment to see a doctor because they switched over to a new computerized system and it would be at LEAST eight weeks before I could see anyone. Yay me. Of course, the wife will call their office today and MAYBE I can get to see someone this week - not today because none of the doctors are there on Wednesdays.
 
2012-11-14 06:00:48 AM  
Well durr...

I probably should have mentioned the fact that my doctor is Chinese and at least 95% of the doctors in our clinic are from other countries. This is a normal thing here as it seems to be easier to get licensed in this state than in almost any other. Then again, we DO have our right wing morons that insist that "the Meskins are here takin' are jobs!!!" and yeah, I've heard that a LOT. Then when anyone suggests doing anything about it, the same people biatch, piss and moan about how they "won't be able to get anyone to work in their fields if'n we get rid of all them there illeguls!"

There are moronic idiots in every state - my sister, who I am thrilled to say moved to New Mexico recently - insists that the only book anyone needs to read is the Bible. Yes, she DOES mean that to include doctors and every other professional in the world. We're glad she's gone. Now we just need to get rid of the REST of the idiots and ship them out to the desert...
 
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