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2012-11-13 12:37:46 PM
Ok, now this is just starting to getting ridiculous...
 
2012-11-13 12:40:21 PM

TheEdibleSnuggie: Ok, now this is just starting to getting ridiculous...


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2012-11-13 01:03:52 PM
I may not know anything about El Paso, but their salsa is plain shiatty.
 
2012-11-13 01:12:03 PM
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-11-13 01:22:18 PM
Throw in Austin and you got a deal.
 
2012-11-13 01:23:35 PM
We keep El Paso? How about El No.
 
2012-11-13 01:29:49 PM
You can have El Paso. And Dallas. I rather like Austin though. It has just the right mix of crazy hippies, anarchists, the blues, and random nudity.
 
2012-11-13 02:01:22 PM
lulz, 7 comments, 55 clicks, 10 signatures. Fark doesn't want El Paso.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-13 02:07:10 PM
Actually, the cities are generally "blue" even in "red" states. I think almost the entire economy of Texas that isn't resource extraction or agriculture is in the blue parts of the state.


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2012-11-13 02:20:59 PM
In the west texas town on el paso, I fell in love with a mexican girl.
 
2012-11-13 02:23:40 PM
Lucky us.
 
2012-11-13 02:24:32 PM
Why should the secessionists get to keep ANY American land? If they hate America so much, they can GTFO, but they have to find their own damn land and resources.
 
2012-11-13 02:24:57 PM
I hope texas will pass the old el paso
 
2012-11-13 02:25:23 PM

Muta: In the west texas town on el paso, I fell in love with a mexican girl.


West Texas? That's where me and my uncle went riding down! South Colorado, west Texas bound!

Huh. What a coincidence.
 
2012-11-13 02:25:28 PM
www.vulturewhale.com

/i know it was pace
//and not old el paso
///got nothin
////but slashies
 
2012-11-13 02:26:55 PM
El Pasoan here, but not signing this petition.

Petitions generally are a waste of time, and I'm aware that my fellow Texans who want to secede are just posturing idiots.

Or "all hat and no cattle" as the saying goes.
 
2012-11-13 02:28:18 PM
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2012-11-13 02:30:03 PM
I have never seen so many flies in one place at one time as I once saw on the north side of El Paso. I don't know how the people stand it. I needed a bandana to keep from inhaling the damn things.
 
2012-11-13 02:33:47 PM
El Paso must contain a substantial urban population, likely one with little or no respect for the rule of law. I would not be surprised to learn that El Paso experiences some of the highest rates of crime in the nation.

/Perhaps I should preemptively post [thatsthejoke.jpg].
 
2012-11-13 02:36:44 PM

vpb: Actually, the cities are generally "blue" even in "red" states. I think almost the entire economy of Texas that isn't resource extraction or agriculture is in the blue parts of the state.


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Easy = The people in the Red portions work for their money and want to keep their money. The people in the blue suck off the local and federal government and want everyone else to work hard for their welfare.

/Am I doing this right?
 
2012-11-13 02:37:10 PM
Signatures on this petition: 14
Comments in this thread: 19
 
2012-11-13 02:39:18 PM
You want out, gtfo. Leave everything and go. Farking Texas. And dont compare that shiathole El Paso with New Mexico.
 
2012-11-13 02:43:09 PM

vpb: Actually, the cities are generally "blue" even in "red" states. I think almost the entire economy of Texas that isn't resource extraction or agriculture is in the blue parts of the state.


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It's interesting to see that wall of blue at the southern and southwestern border growing and solidifying.

Will be interesting to see how 2016 goes with Texas counties.

/also, DFW totally has blue balls
 
2012-11-13 02:47:22 PM
it's amazing to drive through El Paso as the highway goes right up against the border. You look from one side of the highway to the other and the difference is startling. The buildings, the housing, the grass or lack there-of blows your mind. I can see why people want to go from one to the other.
 
2012-11-13 02:49:02 PM
This is starting to get a little out of hand but as a resident of Austin, TX, I fully support a similar measure.
 
2012-11-13 02:49:28 PM

Elzar: I may not know anything about El Paso, but their salsa is plain shiatty.


I know. It gives me a deep burning pain in my si-i-i-i-i-i-i-ide.
 
2012-11-13 02:53:15 PM

rudemix: You want out, gtfo. Leave everything and go. Farking Texas. And dont compare that shiathole El Paso with New Mexico.


This is not fair. El Paso gets a bad rap and I don't know why. It's a large city with one of the lowest violent crime rates in the country in spite of being just over the border from Juarez. The Latino culture there is excellent. And they serve real Mexican food, not Tex-Mex. El Paso is basically Albuquerque with twice as many people.

And since El Paso is the one spot in Texas that isn't in the Central time zone, I think it's high time for El Paso county to secede from Texas and join New Mexico where it rightfully belongs.

/family is from New Mexico
//spent a lot of time in El Paso
///Texas doesn't deserve them
 
2012-11-13 02:58:24 PM
I want to keep the Alamo.
 
2012-11-13 03:01:25 PM

tnpir: rudemix: You want out, gtfo. Leave everything and go. Farking Texas. And dont compare that shiathole El Paso with New Mexico.

This is not fair. El Paso gets a bad rap and I don't know why. It's a large city with one of the lowest violent crime rates in the country in spite of being just over the border from Juarez. The Latino culture there is excellent. And they serve real Mexican food, not Tex-Mex. El Paso is basically Albuquerque with twice as many people.


I don't think that last line would convince anyone with a contrary opinion, but I agree with you. I'm originally from Las Cruces and I like El Paso. Maybe this seems like a strange word for such a large city, but El Paso feels pretty cozy to me.
 
2012-11-13 03:03:22 PM
I am pretty sure that they wouldn't even need a petition if Florida was involved.
 
2012-11-13 03:03:25 PM
EL PASO! Grew up on the east side. Montwood H.S. Family owned The Percolator for a short while.
 
2012-11-13 03:07:02 PM

ShawnDoc: I want to keep the Alamo.


The ...what?
 
2012-11-13 03:07:41 PM
El Paso. That's Spanish for The Paso.
 
2012-11-13 03:08:17 PM

Skleenar: Elzar: I may not know anything about El Paso, but their salsa is plain shiatty.

I know. It gives me a deep burning pain in my si-i-i-i-i-i-i-ide.


From out of nowhere Farkers have found me,
Mocking my town as they laugh and deride.
Bordered by herp and the derp that I lie for,
One little kiss and Ol' Tejas, good-bye.
 
2012-11-13 03:10:01 PM
fark IT. I WANT TO SECEDE FROM ALL OF YOU.

I want canada to secede from north america. i want miami to secede. i want the hawaiian island broken up into different states.
 
2012-11-13 03:10:26 PM

DrySocket: Throw in Austin and you got a deal.


This.
 
2012-11-13 03:12:47 PM
They can just merge with Baja Arizona.

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2012-11-13 03:16:55 PM

Foxxinnia: I don't think that last line would convince anyone with a contrary opinion, but I agree with you. I'm originally from Las Cruces and I like El Paso. Maybe this seems like a strange word for such a large city, but El Paso feels pretty cozy to me.


Actually, now that you mention it, "cozy" is a strange but accurate word to describe El Paso. I'm convinced the people who think El Paso is the armpit of Texas (1) have never actually been to El Paso and (2) have never been to Beaumont, which IS the armpit of Texas.
 
2012-11-13 03:17:23 PM
Holy fark. Is everybody seceding from everybody else?
 
2012-11-13 03:20:29 PM
Actually, this one's at least constitutional. Here's an interesting issue with the idea of secession: seceding from your state, but not from the union: Constitutional; seceding from the union: not constitutional.

Texas V. White, the 1869 supr. court case, defines secession from the Union ("Unilateral Secession") as an option which cannot be undertaken by a state, as statehood is an explicitly insoluble relation. On the flip side, Article 4 section 3 of the constitution, which includes the mechanisms of creating new states, provides that a state may be formed through the division or combination of existing states, assuming that the state legislatures and congress approve the change (very similar to the creation of new states from territories). This also reflects why the issue of statehood is not to be undertaken lightly (see Puerto Rico's long internal debate on the subject), where a territory can have the right to peaceably secede from the USA under the constitution, a state cannot, so, if, as the electorate and legislature of Puerto Rico have now approved, they become a state (which is now in the hands of congress), they permanently become a state. Haven't you ever wondered why the number of states only seems to go up? It's because A) Secession is unconstitutional and will be thought politically, and, if necessary, militarily, and B) it's easier to make new states legally than take away old ones (not impossible, states can combine, but this requires the approval of three legislatures, the two states and the congress))

The following states have been created through consented secession from existent states:

Maine (Massachusetts)
West Virginia (Virginia)
Kentucky (Virginia)

There may be others, but I'm not sure and don't have time to research anymore right now. I do believe, however, that no states have formed through the combination of existent states. It also bears remembering that our system does politically incentivize division of states over combination of states, you automatically lose representation and electoral power if join two states (senators get halved, and you likely net lose house reps).

TL;DR version: It's possible to secede from your state and become a new state under US law, it is NOT possible to secede from the Union. Proposing the first is both legal as speech and actual practice, the second... well, I'm not sure if it's protected under the 1st amendment, as in practice I'm pretty sure it amounts to unconstitutional treason.
 
2012-11-13 03:20:33 PM

Dinjiin: They can just merge with Baja Arizona.

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What the hell is that? And why would San Diego and Orange counties want to be joined with all the meth-heads to their east?
 
2012-11-13 03:21:24 PM

rtaylor92: it's amazing to drive through El Paso as the highway goes right up against the border. You look from one side of the highway to the other and the difference is startling. The buildings, the housing, the grass or lack there-of blows your mind. I can see why people want to go from one to the other.


To your right, the University of Texas at El Paso. To your left, a silo and then Mexico.
 
2012-11-13 03:24:23 PM

Dinjiin: They can just merge with Baja Arizona.

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That's a funny map. What kind of person really believes the best way to solve all of America's problems is to divide up states that are more likely to vote "not GOP" while increasing territory for the party that loses elections because they're so out-of-touch?

/Oh wait, did I answer my own question?
 
2012-11-13 03:26:07 PM

Dinjiin: They can just merge with Baja Arizona.

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While I like that, I think it's a little arbitrary to break "Washington" and "Oregon" at the current border. I would suggest an extension into Western BC, too, and call it "Cascadia". The Western parts of those three states/provinces have far more in common than any of them do with the eastern regions of their current borders.
 
2012-11-13 03:28:10 PM
And "Lincoln" and "Idaho" should probably be the same division. Not much different between the two.
 
2012-11-13 03:28:30 PM
Ah El Paso, my hometown. New Mexico doesn't want us, Mexico can't afford us, Texas doesn't know we exist.

But seriously, those bashing EP for the crime rate have no idea what the hell they're talking about. We're one of the safest cities in the Northern Hemisphere, regularly at the top (if not #1) on the list of safest cities in the Nation. Families from Juarez regularly come here to escape the violence there because IT IS SAFE! 

Fark all the haters, El Paso is AWESOME. The entire region is spectacularly rich in culture and history. The food is AMAZING, the people are neighborly and the landscapes are dramatic. We are the dividing line where Cowboys become Vaqueros and we enjoy the absolute best of both cultures. Our proximity to the Great State of New Mexico (my second home) is but a wonderful plus.
 
2012-11-13 03:29:01 PM
More entertaining ...

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/strip-citizenship-everyone- w ho-signed-petition-secede-and-exile-them/ZbMjcwPf
 
2012-11-13 03:29:58 PM
I think they referenced the wrong Mexico
 
2012-11-13 03:33:02 PM

Texas Gabe: Ah El Paso, my hometown. New Mexico doesn't want us, Mexico can't afford us, Texas doesn't know we exist.

But seriously, those bashing EP for the crime rate have no idea what the hell they're talking about. We're one of the safest cities in the Northern Hemisphere, regularly at the top (if not #1) on the list of safest cities in the Nation. Families from Juarez regularly come here to escape the violence there because IT IS SAFE! 

Fark all the haters, El Paso is AWESOME. The entire region is spectacularly rich in culture and history. The food is AMAZING, the people are neighborly and the landscapes are dramatic. We are the dividing line where Cowboys become Vaqueros and we enjoy the absolute best of both cultures. Our proximity to the Great State of New Mexico (my second home) is but a wonderful plus.


Where do you currently reside?
 
2012-11-13 03:33:38 PM

GreatGlavinsGhost: What kind of person really believes the best way to solve all of America's problems is to divide up states that are more likely to vote "not GOP" while increasing territory for the party that loses elections because they're so out-of-touch?


My problem with counties that want to secede from their parental state is that they'll probably make it worse for all of the remaining counties that have similar ideologies.

Eastern Washington, eastern Oregon and southern Oregon have been whining for years about fleeing from the evil clutches of the libs that infest Olympia and Salem. But if they go, Seattle and Portland will basically dominate the politics of the leftovers. I'm sure the more right-leaning people in the suburbs, exhurbs and remaining rural areas will really like that.

Same issue with Pima County leaving Arizona. The state is currently a right-leaning purple state. Tucson leaving would put it solidly back into the red. I'm sure that would really piss off everyone in Phoenix, Flagstaff and Sedona (all left leaning cities).
 
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