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		Victoria's Secret apologizes for Native American headdress, since models walking down the catwalk in a leopard print thong is the first place you'd expect to find cultural sensitivity (seattlepi.com)		109
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insano		2012-11-13 02:51:46 PM

Nobody say a thing. Just post pictures and leave.

Gunny Highway		2012-11-13 02:52:35 PM

WAHOO!

Dr.Mxyzptlk.		2012-11-13 02:53:15 PM

I thought it was a tribute to Massachusetts new Senator Elizabeth 1/64 Cherokee Warren.

JohnnyC		2012-11-13 02:54:13 PM

I'm part Native American (Cherokee and Ojibwe) and I am not at all 'offended'. But if they're feeling really bad, I could take a closer look... just to make sure.

LordJiro		2012-11-13 02:54:53 PM

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: I thought it was a tribute to Massachusetts new Senator Elizabeth 'same amount of Cherokee blood as the current chief of the Cherokee nation' Warren.

Artist		2012-11-13 02:55:38 PM

C'mon, someone had better be posting Cher pictures hereabouts! Along with her hit song 'n lyrics "Half breed" Yipee! Bring on the kitschy 70s!

H31N0US		2012-11-13 02:56:38 PM

Gunny Highway: WAHOO!

My chest just stung a little.

The My Little Pony Killer		2012-11-13 02:56:42 PM

A slideshow for two pictures? Where are the images from the rest of this show?

imtheonlylp		2012-11-13 02:57:12 PM

geez.

model can haz cheezburger? or three?

special20		2012-11-13 02:58:02 PM

Came to say "pics or it didn't happen" - even though there are pics of it happening.

Smackledorfer		2012-11-13 02:58:50 PM

I don't understand why anyone gets annoyed at mere clothing. It isn't like we've got a blackface play going on here.

What is different between this and a sexy version of any other traditional outfit? Should I be throwing a shiatfit if a sexy lederhosen outfit was on the runway?

Outfits, without additional context, shouldn't be considered offensive unless the original outfit itself was offensive. So a KKK robe obviously would have context on its own, but a chief's headdress? meh.

texdent		2012-11-13 03:00:11 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores		2012-11-13 03:01:44 PM

Molavian		2012-11-13 03:02:27 PM

Should I be offended at sexy kilts?

AbiNormal		2012-11-13 03:03:32 PM

insano: Nobody say a thing. Just post pictures and leave.

This is Fark! A place where the beating of the dick skinners against keyboards to post irrelevant and idiotic opinions is an art form. There will be few if any pictures unless you find them yourself.

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homarjr		2012-11-13 03:04:31 PM

I didn't RTFA, but I'm guessing the person who complained is all sorts of disgusting.

ringersol		2012-11-13 03:05:52 PM

Smackledorfer: "Should I be throwing a shiatfit if a sexy lederhosen outfit was on the runway?"

If there was a campaign of genocide waged against the lederhosen-wearing people and then white-washed by the victors, I wouldn't cry foul if you sent a strongly worded letter about sexy lederhosen.

kungfu jesus with a side of lime		2012-11-13 03:06:23 PM

i just want to go on record and state that if any VS model has a strong need for a quickly delivered facial, I would be more then happy to drop trow and administer it

AeAe		2012-11-13 03:06:40 PM

texdent: [ww1.hdnux.com image 318x471]

I'm so offended I'll need to see more pics.

Gunny Highway		2012-11-13 03:07:28 PM

This really isnt surprising. Ten years ago a bunch of seraphim filed a complaint against the company and received a similar apology.

SugarPlumFarie		2012-11-13 03:08:16 PM

So, will they be apologizing to angels next?

FunkOut		2012-11-13 03:08:58 PM

Leopard print? On a pseudo-North American native costume? That is not a North American animal! It should have been jaguar print preferably paired with pseudo-Mayan costume! Scientifically incorrect is not sexy! Harrumph!

elkraf		2012-11-13 03:09:39 PM

What headdress? I didn't notice a headdress.

Smackledorfer		2012-11-13 03:11:48 PM

ringersol: Smackledorfer: "Should I be throwing a shiatfit if a sexy lederhosen outfit was on the runway?"

If there was a campaign of genocide waged against the lederhosen-wearing people and then white-washed by the victors, I wouldn't cry foul if you sent a strongly worded letter about sexy lederhosen.

Why? I'm not saying you wouldn't, but I'm asking you to explain to me why a culture having gone through some shiat makes any reference to it completely off limits?

What about a sexy traditional african outfit?
an Israeli defense force thread?

How about arabs and christians? Both had their respective crusades attempted.

I see no racism intended, no hate intended, and none that should exist by default without taking it from context.

Cheese eating surrender monkey		2012-11-13 03:12:34 PM

Has anyone pointed out they should all eat some sammiches yet?

Cause if not, they should.

lunkhed		2012-11-13 03:12:46 PM

Because promoting and benefiting from gambling addictions is OK.

Debeo Summa Credo		2012-11-13 03:12:48 PM

LordJiro: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: I thought it was a tribute to Massachusetts new Senator Elizabeth 'same amount of Cherokee blood as the current chief of the Cherokee nation' Warren.

Which makes one wonder whether the concept of "Cherokee nation" is necessary. Can't they find anyone competent who has more than 2% Cherokee blood? Why the fark do should we take the organization seriously if they're going to hire a guy who'se 98% non-native to run the thing.

Smackledorfer		2012-11-13 03:13:26 PM

Cheese eating surrender monkey: Has anyone pointed out they should all eat some sammiches yet?

Cause if not, they should.

They are just tall. You'll get over it.

Smackledorfer		2012-11-13 03:14:11 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Why the fark do should we take the organization seriously

Do we?

I don't know a thing about them, nor do I particularly care.

Ro_thunder		2012-11-13 03:16:18 PM

Last year, Urban Outfitters set off a firestorm of criticism with its line of Navajo-branded clothing and accessories - particularly underwear and a liquor flask, which the tribe said was "derogatory and scandalous."

I want a Native American branded liquor flask. It'll complete my Tonto costume for next Halloween!

Fark Rye For Many Whores		2012-11-13 03:18:31 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: Which makes one wonder whether the concept of "Cherokee nation" is necessary. Can't they find anyone competent who has more than 2% Cherokee blood?

You don't know many Cherokee do you.

ZeroCorpse		2012-11-13 03:18:51 PM

The problem is that it's a chief's headdress, which has some significance. It's roughly equivalent to a model wearing a habit, priest's colar, or bishop's hat while on the runway in a skimpy outfit.

I'm Cherokee, Cheyenne, Welsh, and what-have-you, and it doesn't actually offend me as much as the whole idea of fashion shows, which is to treat women like coat racks for awful, ugly clothing while simultaneously holding them to a beauty standard in which looking like a transvestite is prized more than looking like an actual woman.

dittybopper		2012-11-13 03:19:46 PM

Ro_thunder: Last year, Urban Outfitters set off a firestorm of criticism with its line of Navajo-branded clothing and accessories - particularly underwear and a liquor flask, which the tribe said was "derogatory and scandalous."

I want a Native American branded liquor flask. It'll complete my Tonto costume for next Halloween!

"Derogatory Underwear" and "Derogatory Liquor Flask" would be good band names.

Smackledorfer		2012-11-13 03:20:17 PM

ZeroCorpse: . It's roughly equivalent to a model wearing a habit, priest's colar, or bishop's hat while on the runway in a skimpy outfit.

I'm ok with all of that, too, fwiw.

But there are better looking collars than a priest's for a gal to wear.

cig-mkr		2012-11-13 03:21:50 PM

Why aren't the Christians all over them for making Angels look like tramps?
/ be right back, looking for my outrage.........

Smackledorfer		2012-11-13 03:26:28 PM

Can I still make fun of that one tribe that would get together and have the richest people in the tribe have a contest where they burned a bunch of their belongings to prove they were the richest and thus superior members of the tribe?

HailRobonia		2012-11-13 03:26:41 PM

ZeroCorpse: The problem is that it's a chief's headdress, which has some significance. It's roughly equivalent to a model wearing a habit, priest's colar, or bishop's hat while on the runway in a skimpy outfit.

All of which are fine by me.

Abe Vigoda's Ghost		2012-11-13 03:27:54 PM

Harry Freakstorm		2012-11-13 03:28:14 PM

It wasn't a decent Penthouse magazine if it didn't include a couple of lesbian Indians, er Native Americans smoking a peace pipe and then going all Custer on one another. Okay, the Nazi lesbians were okay in a pinch. Just follow their orders exactly. The lesbian chick walking her lesbian pet through the desert on a leash was a little over the top for me. Midwest values, you know.

No one ever said anything about cultural sensitivities back then. Of course, back then, you didn't litter in front of a Native American. Make him cry big.

Abe Vigoda's Ghost		2012-11-13 03:29:26 PM

ZeroCorpse: The problem is that it's a chief's headdress, which has some significance. It's roughly equivalent to a model wearing a habit, priest's colar, or bishop's hat while on the runway in a skimpy outfit.

I'm Cherokee, Cheyenne, Welsh, and what-have-you, and it doesn't actually offend me as much as the whole idea of fashion shows, which is to treat women like coat racks for awful, ugly clothing while simultaneously holding them to a beauty standard in which looking like a transvestite is prized more than looking like an actual woman.

i.dailymail.co.uk

You mean like this?

LeroyBourne		2012-11-13 03:30:05 PM

Right, they should just walk around completely nakey, that will fix everything.

BattleAxe		2012-11-13 03:33:04 PM

// Village People - OK and unoffensive since the 70s.
/// Because Disco?

theMightyRegeya		2012-11-13 03:33:08 PM

Debeo Summa Credo: LordJiro: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: I thought it was a tribute to Massachusetts new Senator Elizabeth 'same amount of Cherokee blood as the current chief of the Cherokee nation' Warren.

Which makes one wonder whether the concept of "Cherokee nation" is necessary. Can't they find anyone competent who has more than 2% Cherokee blood? Why the fark do should we take the organization seriously if they're going to hire a guy who'se 98% non-native to run the thing.

Yeah, I don't get it. You go to NC, you'll find people wearing these same stupid plains Indians headdresses, and you'll see business owners who are incredibly white, yet have nice official paperwork declaring them to be members of the tribe.

Hell, if they'd kept better records back in the day, I'd be more Cherokee than Elizabeth Warren. The icing on the cake is that I'm a pasty redhead.

I understand some people being upset by this, though. Some tribes tend to take these things pretty seriously.

kgloverfl		2012-11-13 03:36:07 PM

texdent		2012-11-13 03:37:13 PM

kgloverfl: [threadforthought.net image 468x723]

I would poca her hontas.

fireclown		2012-11-13 03:38:54 PM

BattleAxe: // Village People - OK and unoffensive since the 70s.
/// Because Disco?

I have no earthly idea how they were embraced by the mainstream. It was like some kind of magical, cocaine fueled series of crits.

Just in case the various native American groups are still mad about the Victoria's secret thing: As a proud Scandinavian American, I officially declare it ok for the VS girls to dress up as sexy vikings.

KatjaMouse		2012-11-13 03:39:01 PM

Artist: C'mon, someone had better be posting Cher pictures hereabouts! Along with her hit song 'n lyrics "Half breed" Yipee! Bring on the kitschy 70s!

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Satisfied?

Gunny Highway		2012-11-13 03:39:32 PM

theMightyRegeya: Yeah, I don't get it. You go to NC, you'll find people wearing these same stupid plains Indians headdresses, and you'll see business owners who are incredibly white, yet have nice official paperwork declaring them to be members of the tribe.

My buddy's sister is Eastern Cherokee and has blonde hair and blue eyes. There is no doubt she is a tribe member but she does not appear to be one.

Zeb Hesselgresser		2012-11-13 03:40:02 PM

Smackledorfer: Can I still make fun of that one tribe that would get together and have the richest people in the tribe have a contest where they burned a bunch of their belongings to prove they were the richest and thus superior members of the tribe?

America? Yeah, Obama won.