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(Yahoo)   Since it has exceeded the 25,000 signature threshold, the White House by its own rules, may have to formally respond to the TX secession petition on WhiteHouse.gov. Aides say possible responses include "aww hell Naw" and "No. Fark You"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 413
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2012-11-13 12:16:01 PM
Just explain to the people who love the Constitution that doing so is unconstitutional.
Oh yeah I forget Right wingers can ignore the Constitution when they want.
 
2012-11-13 12:16:10 PM
He should tell the signers to self-deport if they want to. I know someone that did during the last election. It isn't going very well for them in spite of the web sites that they looked at that told them it would be a libertarian paradise.
 
2012-11-13 12:16:17 PM

Oznog: wildcardjack: "All you have to do is pay off your share of the national debt and we'll let you go"

Ah yes and all the federally owned land- which is a lot of the state- of course still belongs to the USA. That includes the offshore oil leases.


That's one of the funny things. Not much of Texas is Federal land.

4.bp.blogspot.com

A couple national parks, a bit of troublesome land along the Rio Grande that changes sides every couple of years, and some military bases.
 
2012-11-13 12:16:30 PM

ModernPrimitive01: If Texas leaves the union where will I, as a liberal Tennesseean, be able to point and laugh at someone who is more backward than my home state?

/Mississippi I'm looking at you


Doesn't Mississippi win by default in any case?
 
2012-11-13 12:16:36 PM

super_grass: You say that like the White House will actually respond to the petition with something meaningful.

Remember the petition asking for marijuana legalization?


Calling it now: The response will be a rehash of Obama's election day speech in which he said we must all work together to build a brighter future. That is all.

The responses NEVER do anything useful or bring about any change. At best you get something like the gay marriage response that says "The president already agrees with you, so we're already working on it." But even then, the petition did nothing.
 
2012-11-13 12:16:37 PM

CygnusDarius: Perducci: FirstNationalBastard: Give Texas back to Mexico, wait a couple weeks, watch as they beg to return.

Problem solved.

Or let them try to survive independently. Maybe they can join with Quebec and become some sort of new superpower.


Derp Twins Activate!.
 
2012-11-13 12:16:53 PM
The response should be:

It is no role of the President of the United States to consider the secession of the States of the Union from that Union. The matter should be considered by Congress upon lawful petition by a plurality of citizens of a State. Congress may, upon a vote of its members, put forward to the President for his signature a Bill allowing that State to secede from the Union. At which point, President Barack Hussain Obama will veto that Bill, as it is no role of the President of the United States to consider the secession of States of the Union from that Union, in the other sense of the word 'consider'.

He will then return to Presidenting while black, and if any of you traitors want to see him outside, he will beat you like red-headed stepchildren.

/job done
 
2012-11-13 12:16:53 PM
Obama actually has a big incentive to let them go. The loss of Texas' pretty reliable electoral college votes would pretty much guarantee democrat presidents for the near to mid term future.
 
2012-11-13 12:16:59 PM
I think this is the official White House response.

i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-11-13 12:16:59 PM

rufus-t-firefly: The response should just be a photo of Gen. Sherman.


Why would they respond with a picture of the guy who burned his way EAST from Louisiana?

A real reponse would be to inform them that Virginia and Tennessee won't be around to bail them out this time around.
 
2012-11-13 12:17:08 PM
i.imgur.com

would be my response.
 
2012-11-13 12:17:10 PM
www.gagbay.com
 
2012-11-13 12:17:52 PM
How about the 25,648,681 Texans who don't want to secede just give these people a mid-sized town near the border and cut them off from all local, state and federal funds and services.

Heck, let them keep the roads, sewers, water and electric lines, schools, town hall, fire and police station, water treatment facilites, etc. Just no training or funding to keep anything of those things working.
 
2012-11-13 12:18:32 PM
The Dems should troll them and draw up a resolution. Make the GOP have to vote it down and piss off some of their base. All the Dems should vote 'present'.
 
2012-11-13 12:18:34 PM
fark the Lone Stars in their brown stars.
 
2012-11-13 12:18:37 PM
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2012-11-13 12:14:12 PM


doubled99: Why do so many of you have a problem with this? Let em do it.

Because the land is American. Their options are "suck it up," "die," and "leave." No one cares which they pick




So love it or leave it, huh? They want to leave it. LET THEM
 
2012-11-13 12:18:49 PM

garandman1a: Before everyone says 'no way', think about it.

1) Obama hates Texas as much, if not more, then Texas hates Obama.
2) With the loss of 30 something guaranteed red state votes, he would make the path to the Whitehouse much easier for Nancy Pelosi.


And this is the reason Repub's will never go for it, or move to block any attempt by Obama to go forward with it.

\Obama doesn't "hate" Texas
\\I like this fantasy world where Pelosi somehow gets the Democratic nod and wins.
 
2012-11-13 12:18:51 PM

Matt Foley: Perducci: FirstNationalBastard: Give Texas back to Mexico, wait a couple weeks, watch as they beg to return.

Problem solved.

Or let them try to survive independently. Maybe they can join with Quebec and become some sort of new superpower.

The national cuisine would be awesome. Chili Poutine with a maple glazed 20 oz. ribeye.


The Maple-Glazed Ribeye already exist in Texas.. and the Chili Poutine exists in Toronto
 
2012-11-13 12:18:56 PM

maxheck: In other news, you can find 25,000 people in TX who think that the world is flat and was created in 6 days, but that doesn't make them any less idiots.


There is such a thing as The Flat Earth Society. No, seriously, it's not just a Bad Religion song, look it up.
 
2012-11-13 12:19:01 PM
Don''t at least a few of those signers have to actually be legal residents of Texas?
 
2012-11-13 12:19:06 PM

ModernPrimitive01: /Mississippi I'm looking at you


MS's whole reason for existing is for the other shiatty states to feel better about themselves. It's like the turd you leave alone near your picnic because it keeps the flies off your food. I know it worked wonders when I was in LA.
 
2012-11-13 12:19:14 PM
I say, let them go.

Without Texas and all its electoral votes, the Republicans will never win another national election again. The Texas School Board won't get to dictate textbook standards to the rest of the nation anymore. There will be a lot fewer oil billionaires influencing our national environmental and energy policy. We won't any longer have to poor federal money into the state for basic social services because those "low-tax patriots" refuse to spend any state money on social services for their own sick and destitute.

Just think how much greater America would be without Texas. I'm really not seeing the downside here.
 
2012-11-13 12:19:20 PM
25,000 rock-stupid Texans.

And THIS is why you didn't get a Space Shuttle, Texas.

IMO, the Smithsonian ought to ask for their Saturn V back.

And move the JSC to Florida as well.

/F*CK TEXAS!
//Don't want to hear any crap about parts of Texas being Progressive either. If you saw a pair of pants with crap all over it except for one back pocket that's clean, you wouldn't put them on because it's still a pair of pants covered in sh*t.
 
2012-11-13 12:19:37 PM
As said before, go ahead and pull out all national forces, claim as much federal property as possible, drone-strike the bridges and highways at the borders and give Mexico the go-ahead to reclaim Tejas.
 
2012-11-13 12:20:01 PM
They mention being able to keep a balanced budget in the petition. Googling "Texas state balanced budget" returns a bunch of articles about accounting tricks and federal money. I'm not sorting through this stuff at the moment, but it seems that this tidbit may not quite be the case.
 
2012-11-13 12:20:20 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-13 12:20:27 PM
Holy cannoli!!! Over 71,000 signatures so far!!!


/Meh. Call me when it gets to a brazillion.
 
2012-11-13 12:20:29 PM
I remember when I was a tyrant king.
 
2012-11-13 12:20:41 PM

Doc Daneeka: I say, let them go


Why let them go when we could sell them back to Mexico?
 
2012-11-13 12:20:46 PM
I guess Fark is filling the void left by election BS with secession BS. Thank god we were able to find something we could continue to act like jackasses about after the election.
 
2012-11-13 12:20:53 PM
The best part of that petition are the signatures from Massachusetts, Illinois, Pennsylvania, etc...
 
2012-11-13 12:21:04 PM
For the record, a similar petition for Louisiana has also exceeded 25,000 signatures. This should be entertaining, if nothing else.

/Native Texan
//Still my favorite part of the country, regardless of political shenanigans on both sides there
 
2012-11-13 12:21:05 PM
How can a petition of 25,000 signatures in a state of over 25 million trigger something like this (that is 0.1% of the population). I am 100% sure that even most Texans aren't stupid enough to agree with this.
 
2012-11-13 12:21:56 PM
Texas seceding would be the greatest thing that's ever happened to the US. Without Texas's Congressmen, the Democrats would take the House and further their control of the Senate. Not to mention that without it's 38 electoral votes the Republicans would never have a chance at the White House ever again.
 
2012-11-13 12:22:00 PM
These guys sure do love America and the Constitution.
 
2012-11-13 12:22:27 PM
So, seeing as how you are declaring your intent to secede by signing one of these petitions, does that mean you're renouncing your citizenship? And if so, what does that mean for question j on form 4473? Link. Wouldn't be surprised to find out that the people who signed these petitions don't realize they just gave Barry and the BATFE a list of people who technically won't pass their NICS check anymore.....
 
2012-11-13 12:22:34 PM
The people who set up the petition should have the charge of sedition brought against them and those who signed it should be brought up on charges of treason.
 
2012-11-13 12:23:34 PM

Perducci: Or let them try to survive independently. Maybe they can join with Quebec and become some sort of new superpower.


As if Quebec would have them.
 
2012-11-13 12:24:09 PM

Decados: The people who set up the petition should have the charge of sedition brought against them and those who signed it should be brought up on charges of treason.


All hyperbole aside, is this a legitimate charge for people who 'actively' work toward secession?
 
2012-11-13 12:24:10 PM

ModernPrimitive01: If Texas leaves the union where will I, as a liberal Tennesseean, be able to point and laugh at someone who is more backward than my home state?


Well, liberal Texans use Oklahoma for similar pointing-and-laughing uses.
 
2012-11-13 12:24:28 PM

Infernalist: As said before, go ahead and pull out all national forces, claim as much federal property as possible, drone-strike the bridges and highways at the borders and give Mexico the go-ahead to reclaim Tejas.


Just a thought.

Before you do this, you must remove anyone that is not an insane, racist right-wing GOP militant, and children. Once you do, and enforce all what you just said, Mexico will issue that Texas is now a state-wide prison territory for drug cartels (there's no death penalty in Mexico, except within the ranks of the military).

It's a win-win.
 
2012-11-13 12:24:32 PM
"We've reviewed your request and the answer is no. Here, have a lollipop"
 
2012-11-13 12:24:57 PM

k4mi: trigger something like this


worth keeping in mind what 'this' is in the above statement.

a response that consists of 'yah, there's a petition - next question?' is still a response.
 
2012-11-13 12:25:06 PM
Of course, when the Mexicans take over California, and start agitating for secession, Farkistan will cheer them on as they correct an historic wrong, i.e., Mexico's loss of California to the US....

/politically correct disintegration of USA is the best kind of disintegration
 
2012-11-13 12:25:12 PM
Well to be fair... the president's skin is rather dark.
 
2012-11-13 12:25:49 PM

MooseUpNorth: Perducci: Or let them try to survive independently. Maybe they can join with Quebec and become some sort of new superpower.

As if Quebec would have them.


It would be fun to watch.
 
2012-11-13 12:26:01 PM
CygnusDarius:

maxheck: In other news, you can find 25,000 people in TX who think that the world is flat and was created in 6 days, but that doesn't make them any less idiots.

There is such a thing as The Flat Earth Society. No, seriously, it's not just a Bad Religion song, look it up.

Oh, I know, and the Church of the Subgenius had tens of thousands of members back before X day. But most of their members have their tongues firmly planted in their cheek, unlike the nitwits who signed this petition.

/ Onetime Grand Bromide of the Church of the biatchin' Black Cadillac.
 
2012-11-13 12:26:07 PM

Decados: The people who set up the petition should have the charge of sedition brought against them and those who signed it should be brought up on charges of treason.


Nah. First amendment and all that.

Unless they act on it and take over a town then declare it independent or something, there's nothing but ridicule due to them.
 
2012-11-13 12:26:27 PM
I know it's idiocy, but has this particular flavor of idiocy happened before? Is there secessionist wharrgarbl every time a president is elected/re-elected and I just haven't been paying attention?
 
2012-11-13 12:26:48 PM

Infernalist: Decados: The people who set up the petition should have the charge of sedition brought against them and those who signed it should be brought up on charges of treason.

All hyperbole aside, is this a legitimate charge for people who 'actively' work toward secession?


probably not. Certainly doesn't meet the Constitutional definition of treason and "sedition" refers to an attempt to overthrow the government. Withdrawing from the government (or attempting to) probably doesn't fit the bill but IANAL
 
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