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(Some Conspiracy Gal)   Romney's ORCA system failed not due to incompetence, but instead liberal programmer sabotage. Bonus: includes totally "not racist" accusation of a specific developer being a "likely Obama voter"   (3dblogger.typepad.com ) divider line
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2012-11-13 09:23:36 AM  
I like how, interspersed with the conspiracy theory ranting, she posts updates that basically tells his readers that she is full of shiat.
 
2012-11-13 09:25:02 AM  
You know who else's ORCA system failed?

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-13 09:25:44 AM  
The more we hear about the inner workings and thought processes of the Romney campaign, the more apparent it is that they really half assed everything.
 
2012-11-13 09:25:48 AM  
www.yiyinglu.com
 
2012-11-13 09:27:28 AM  
And this guy was supposed to be a great business man who knows how to get things done properly.
 
2012-11-13 09:29:44 AM  
yes, and i'm sure that the fact that the polls had obama winning pretty much the entire time had nothing to do with it.
 
2012-11-13 09:30:16 AM  
I think it's a brilliant piece. And it finally explains Dick Morris. Morris worked for Clinton. And he's been doing his best to make Fox News look ridiculous
 
2012-11-13 09:31:12 AM  
did they outsource it to india? because that would be hilarious if they outsourced it to india.
 
2012-11-13 09:31:39 AM  

Wellon Dowd: And this guy was supposed to be a great business man who knows how to get things done properly.


Strangely enough, Romney doesn't seem to like firing people who told him he was going to win.
 
2012-11-13 09:32:40 AM  
What a Derp-filled "article"

Bottom line: They didn't work on Orca. We still don't know who did.

Maybe it was vaporware.

Vapor as in Vapid. You know -kind of like how the Romney campaign had a fiscal plan but wouldn't actually share the details with the public or that "Tax Cuts" for the wealthy never really were linked with "more jobs". But hey, don't stop calling out blacks wherever you may see them.
 
2012-11-13 09:47:18 AM  
To summarize the article: We don't know anything, so here's some bullshiat we think could have happened. All they need is a Glenn Beck and blackboard.
 
2012-11-13 09:51:53 AM  

Ennuipoet: To summarize the article: We don't know anything, so here's some bullshiat we think could have happened. All they need is a Glenn Beck and blackboard.


From the "About Me" section of her blog (which is hilarious):

I'm not in the Tea Party; I don't care for Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck at all -- they are shrill, ideologically hidebound and hateful -- like a lot of people I see on the left, too, like their opposite numbers, Jon Stewart and Glenn Greenwald on Salon.

This person is either clinically insane or a carefully crafted concern troll. Either way, she's not to be taken seriously.
 
2012-11-13 09:54:23 AM  
This reminds me of Redstate making a plea for donations because DailyKos stoled all the blog developers.
 
2012-11-13 09:57:53 AM  

Weaver95: did they outsource it to india? because that would be hilarious if they outsourced it to india.


You are joking but it was outsourced. Domestically but outsourced nonetheless. Obama's campaign saw the importance of keeping the knowledge/intelligence in house and advancing the science in house so the owned it.

Romney/GOP saw the bottom line inefficiencies and missed the big picture of this was important to do it yourself instead of just getting the best price. It is a perfect analogy to investing in the US.

In 2016, the GOP will have a rough version of this system (6 years old). In 2016, DNC will basically have the equivalent of magic.
 
2012-11-13 09:58:25 AM  

sigdiamond2000: Ennuipoet: To summarize the article: We don't know anything, so here's some bullshiat we think could have happened. All they need is a Glenn Beck and blackboard.

From the "About Me" section of her blog (which is hilarious):

I'm not in the Tea Party; I don't care for Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck at all -- they are shrill, ideologically hidebound and hateful -- like a lot of people I see on the left, too, like their opposite numbers, Jon Stewart and Glenn Greenwald on Salon.

This person is either clinically insane or a carefully crafted concern troll. Either way, she's not to be taken seriously.


This seems like a good excuse to link my favorite Stewart segment: Link
 
2012-11-13 10:01:37 AM  

mrshowrules: Weaver95: did they outsource it to india? because that would be hilarious if they outsourced it to india.

You are joking but it was outsourced. Domestically but outsourced nonetheless. Obama's campaign saw the importance of keeping the knowledge/intelligence in house and advancing the science in house so the owned it.

Romney/GOP saw the bottom line inefficiencies and missed the big picture of this was important to do it yourself instead of just getting the best price. It is a perfect analogy to investing in the US.

In 2016, the GOP will have a rough version of this system (6 years old). In 2016, DNC will basically have the equivalent of magic.


oh I know. i'm just mocking the Romney campaign - the more data that comes out about how they ran that campaign, the more amazed I am they lasted as long as they did.
 
2012-11-13 10:13:34 AM  
Can someone explain what this thing is supposed to even do? Are they just trying to track voter turn out so they can target robo calls and shiat better? I find it hard to believe they are going to be all 'zyx county in Ohio is having 10% lower turn out than expected, quick to the helicopters!'
 
2012-11-13 10:17:40 AM  

NickelP: Can someone explain what this thing is supposed to even do? Are they just trying to track voter turn out so they can target robo calls and shiat better? I find it hard to believe they are going to be all 'zyx county in Ohio is having 10% lower turn out than expected, quick to the helicopters!'


Certainly doesn't square with their practice of counting unanswered door knocks as guaranteed Romney votes.
 
2012-11-13 10:18:30 AM  

NickelP: Can someone explain what this thing is supposed to even do?


My understanding is that it was supposed to track who had and had not voted yet, allowing the campaign to target the not voted yet and ignore the had voted. The difference, apparently, between the Obama and Romney campaigns, is that the Obama campaign used boots on the ground to contact the not yet voted, while Romney, as you said, targeted them with robo calls and shiat.
 
2012-11-13 10:19:25 AM  
Ars has a great article on the breadth of the IT failure that was ORCA. The stupidest part is that the ORCA boasting to PBS before the election was completely misguided. They claimed to be competing against Narwhal, Obama's impressive data infrastructure.

Instead ORCA could only be compared to Houdini, a similar 2008 Obama campaign get-out-the-vote app that also failed. The difference is that the Obama campaign was prepared for the worst and went back to the tried-and-true strike lists that GOTV efforts have used for decades. The Romney campaign was so confident of ORCA they had no backup and apparently no strike lists. It was a massive failure on all levels.
 
2012-11-13 10:24:31 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: NickelP: Can someone explain what this thing is supposed to even do?

My understanding is that it was supposed to track who had and had not voted yet, allowing the campaign to target the not voted yet and ignore the had voted. The difference, apparently, between the Obama and Romney campaigns, is that the Obama campaign used boots on the ground to contact the not yet voted, while Romney, as you said, targeted them with robo calls and shiat.


I think ORCA was more designed to replace strike lists, which are the lists of supporters for your candidate in that district. They'd normally cross off names as they show up to vote and then call anyone that's left in the district. ORCA was supposed to do the same thing but via a mobile phone app that talked to Romney HQ in Boston, which collected information. The app failed, the web site failed and the server failed in multiple ways. That led to volunteers with nothing to do since no one returned their calls and they didn't have backup strike lists. That also meant that Romney HQ was running blind throughout most of election day and could only get voting stats from the media and basic data from secretaries of state.
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2012-11-13 10:24:58 AM  
Begun the Cyber Election Wars they have !!!!!
 
2012-11-13 10:26:09 AM  
www.qwipster.net
 
2012-11-13 10:29:58 AM  

Lumpmoose: I think ORCA was more designed to replace strike lists, which are the lists of supporters for your candidate in that district.


Yeah, I didn't want to use jargon, but strike lists/tear sheets/voter packets/whatever you call 'em that's what they tried to replace.

And they failed.

Lumpmoose: The difference is that the Obama campaign was prepared for the worst and went back to the tried-and-true strike lists that GOTV efforts have used for decades.


Honestly, our district did too. We just didn't have the manpower to do door knocking, phone banking, AND data entry. We had the technology to do it (unlike other sites), but we weren't printing out new sheets and going through lists fast enough for it to matter, so it seemed sort of pointless.
 
2012-11-13 10:30:51 AM  

Lumpmoose: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: NickelP: Can someone explain what this thing is supposed to even do?

My understanding is that it was supposed to track who had and had not voted yet, allowing the campaign to target the not voted yet and ignore the had voted. The difference, apparently, between the Obama and Romney campaigns, is that the Obama campaign used boots on the ground to contact the not yet voted, while Romney, as you said, targeted them with robo calls and shiat.

I think ORCA was more designed to replace strike lists, which are the lists of supporters for your candidate in that district. They'd normally cross off names as they show up to vote and then call anyone that's left in the district. ORCA was supposed to do the same thing but via a mobile phone app that talked to Romney HQ in Boston, which collected information. The app failed, the web site failed and the server failed in multiple ways. That led to volunteers with nothing to do since no one returned their calls and they didn't have backup strike lists. That also meant that Romney HQ was running blind throughout most of election day and could only get voting stats from the media and basic data from secretaries of state.


Interesting I didn't realize that happened. How do you wind up on one of those lists? Is it basically people that have given to the campaign, attended a rally, etc?
 
2012-11-13 10:31:05 AM  

Lumpmoose: The Romney campaign was so confident of ORCA they had no backup and apparently no strike lists. It was a massive failure on all levels.


That's one of the most amazing things about his campaign.

They were so sure of their victory, they didn't have back up plans for anything. Romney didn't even have a concessions speech planned, for crying out loud.
 
2012-11-13 10:31:56 AM  
Also how do you know if people voted? Do the poll workers just hand over a list of who has already voted whenever you ask?
 
2012-11-13 10:37:46 AM  

NickelP: Interesting I didn't realize that happened. How do you wind up on one of those lists? Is it basically people that have given to the campaign, attended a rally, etc?


That and if you're newly registered, not a super voter, you subscribe to certain magazines, give to certain groups, how you've responded to past contacts, etc. There's a lot of statistics behind the list, but basically it boils down to figuring out your marginal voters. You ignore your sure voters and the people you'll never get.

NickelP: Also how do you know if people voted? Do the poll workers just hand over a list of who has already voted whenever you ask?


Yes, they give lists to the registered poll watchers. Also, the campaigns take the lists, make direct contact (via phone or door knocking) and ask if they've voted yet.
 
2012-11-13 10:39:27 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Also, the campaigns take their lists


Their lists not being the ones from the poll watchers. The poll watcher lists are used to scrub the campaign's list of likely voters.
 
2012-11-13 10:39:59 AM  

NickelP: Interesting I didn't realize that happened. How do you wind up on one of those lists? Is it basically people that have given to the campaign, attended a rally, etc?


Anytime you make a peep of interest to a campaign and give them any identifying information, it ends up in their database. The dirty little secret is that this info get passed on from one campaign to the next for phone banking calls.

NickelP: Also how do you know if people voted? Do the poll workers just hand over a list of who has already voted whenever you ask?


Local campaign offices provide "poll watcher" credentials to volunteers. I think they get to hang out by the sign-in book and mark down names when you sign in. It sounds creepy but I've never lived in a swing state so I don't know what it's like.
 
DAR [TotalFark]
2012-11-13 10:43:50 AM  

Aarontology: They were so sure of their victory, they didn't have back up plans for anything. Romney didn't even have a concessions speech planned, for crying out loud.


I still have the Romney President Elect screen shot on my desktop. Seeing that rich boy smerk wiped off his has still gives me a laugh.
 
2012-11-13 10:46:59 AM  

Aarontology: The more we hear about the inner workings and thought processes of the Romney campaign, the more apparent it is that they really half assed everything it was a giant money laundering scheme.

 
2012-11-13 10:49:06 AM  
Thanks Lumpmoose & Angry Drunk Bureaucrat I learned something new today ;)

Lumpmoose:
Local campaign offices provide "poll watcher" credentials to volunteers. I think they get to hang out by the sign-in book and mark down names when you sign in. It sounds creepy but I've never lived in a swing state so I don't know what it's like.


I've voted in the last few elections in Ohio and never even realized people were doing this so I imagine they stay pretty low key.
 
2012-11-13 10:59:38 AM  

NickelP: I've voted in the last few elections in Ohio and never even realized people were doing this so I imagine they stay pretty low key.


I couldn't tell you the rhyme or reason behind which precincts the parties choose to station poll watchers, but we only had 2 out of about 20 precincts being watched. One of the precincts had a large concentration of seniors who lived in assisted living, so I think that we stationed someone there to make sure that the bus came to pick everyone up to vote. Other precincts were watched because they had a history of faulty machines or a high probability of harassment.

Poll watching is probably the most boring and thankless of all the election jobs; very few people volunteer and, unless there's an actual voting rights problem and you have to call the lawyer on call, it's basically just sitting there all day.
 
2012-11-13 11:12:04 AM  

Weaver95: mrshowrules: Weaver95: did they outsource it to india? because that would be hilarious if they outsourced it to india.

You are joking but it was outsourced. Domestically but outsourced nonetheless. Obama's campaign saw the importance of keeping the knowledge/intelligence in house and advancing the science in house so the owned it.

Romney/GOP saw the bottom line inefficiencies and missed the big picture of this was important to do it yourself instead of just getting the best price. It is a perfect analogy to investing in the US.

In 2016, the GOP will have a rough version of this system (6 years old). In 2016, DNC will basically have the equivalent of magic.

oh I know. i'm just mocking the Romney campaign - the more data that comes out about how they ran that campaign, the more amazed I am they lasted as long as they did.


I wonder if the Obama campaign had a clue the Romney campaign would be run this badly, and were rubbing their hands with glee when he got the nomination?
 
2012-11-13 11:14:11 AM  

Aarontology: The more we hear about the inner workings and thought processes of the Romney campaign, the more apparent it is that they really half assed everything.


They were expecting Jesus to pick up the slack.

Jesus obviously failed them.
 
2012-11-13 11:21:53 AM  
FTFA: "Are they Anonymous or LulzSec hackers? Because often they are. That's why I said, hey, what kind of t-shirts did they come to work in!"

"What I found were two guys who looked like very likely Obama voters. And that's ok to say. That is our reality. That isn't racism."

"The other dev is Will Boykin, who has a 96% chance of being an Obama voter.

*UPDATE: They didn't work on Orca. We still don't know who did. They worked on other aps.

t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-11-13 11:25:52 AM  
My favorite part was this massive new technology the Romney campaign was bragging about as a game-changer wasn't even tested until the day it needed to work perfectly. The local donut shop put more thought into their "show us this tweet and get a free cruller" promotion.

Sometimes going with the lowest bidder just means you get the cheapest shiat.
 
2012-11-13 11:34:56 AM  
I didn't realize Romney was into modifying .msi files.

.....

What!?
 
2012-11-13 11:40:23 AM  
Jesus people - just search linkedin and you'll see who did the dev work for Orca - FFS journalists are such half-assed amateurs...
 
2012-11-13 11:41:50 AM  

SilentStrider: I wonder if the Obama campaign had a clue the Romney campaign would be run this badly, and were rubbing their hands with glee when he got the nomination?


Dunno, but it is assumed that the religious right mobilizes supporters to do grass roots GOTV efforts for the GOP, rather than the GOP doing the work in-house. Maybe OFA knew that the religious support would be tepid and that the Romney ground game would be weak.
 
2012-11-13 11:46:04 AM  
FTFA: Because there isn't some other reason -- like "technology doesn't work". It worked for Obama! Technology works, you know lol?

Anyone who ever writes, for public consumption, the phrase "Technology works, you know lol?" should be fired out of a cannon into the sun.
 
2012-11-13 11:49:18 AM  

Lumpmoose: Local campaign offices provide "poll watcher" credentials to volunteers. I think they get to hang out by the sign-in book and mark down names when you sign in.


Ah, that explains a lot I was driving to Boston during the election, switching between BBC & CNN on XM. The BBC anchor had a staffer from each of the campaigns they kept referring to Strike Lists. Had never heard of them before but BBC was calling states a good 10-15 minutes before CNN. BBC even called FL at about 10:45 and explained that, although no other network had called anything yet, the information coming from the Strike Lists showed that FL would go for Obama once the count was complete. Even the Republican guest conceded, adding that he had an email from Jeb Bush saying FL was going to go blue. At about 10:50, BBC called OH and declared Obama the winner. CNN didn't announce OH until 11ish.

The 2 networks were like night and day. CNN kept talking about how close the race was and the Republican on BBC kept talking about how many counties the GOP was losing and how pessimistic he was. The Democrat was literally fist-pumping every few minutes (the anchor even commented on it) and she explained the Obama campaign's projections were turning out to be pretty spot-on. By around 10:30pm, I thought the Republican was going to slit his wrists, he was so morose. Meanwhile, CNN was still talking about how Romney could still possibly win.
 
2012-11-13 11:51:17 AM  

brigid_fitch: The 2 networks were like night and day. CNN kept talking about how close the race was and the Republican on BBC kept talking about how many counties the GOP was losing and how pessimistic he was. The Democrat was literally fist-pumping every few minutes (the anchor even commented on it) and she explained the Obama campaign's projections were turning out to be pretty spot-on. By around 10:30pm, I thought the Republican was going to slit his wrists, he was so morose. Meanwhile, CNN was still talking about how Romney could still possibly win.


To be fair: CNN is awful.
 
2012-11-13 12:00:09 PM  

brigid_fitch: Lumpmoose: Local campaign offices provide "poll watcher" credentials to volunteers. I think they get to hang out by the sign-in book and mark down names when you sign in.

Ah, that explains a lot I was driving to Boston during the election, switching between BBC & CNN on XM. The BBC anchor had a staffer from each of the campaigns they kept referring to Strike Lists. Had never heard of them before but BBC was calling states a good 10-15 minutes before CNN. BBC even called FL at about 10:45 and explained that, although no other network had called anything yet, the information coming from the Strike Lists showed that FL would go for Obama once the count was complete. Even the Republican guest conceded, adding that he had an email from Jeb Bush saying FL was going to go blue. At about 10:50, BBC called OH and declared Obama the winner. CNN didn't announce OH until 11ish.

The 2 networks were like night and day. CNN kept talking about how close the race was and the Republican on BBC kept talking about how many counties the GOP was losing and how pessimistic he was. The Democrat was literally fist-pumping every few minutes (the anchor even commented on it) and she explained the Obama campaign's projections were turning out to be pretty spot-on. By around 10:30pm, I thought the Republican was going to slit his wrists, he was so morose. Meanwhile, CNN was still talking about how Romney could still possibly win.


I was unpacking my Christmas crap with the TV on. It was like watching someone rapidly lose a game of Risk. One by one, Romney's possible routes to victory were being removed.
 
2012-11-13 12:45:33 PM  
latimesblogs.latimes.com

I heard that they peed in Mitt's caffeine-free Diet Coke.
 
2012-11-13 12:48:48 PM  
ORCA: "Ahhh! Woooh! What's happening? Who am I? Why am I here? What's my purpose in life? What do I mean by who am I? Okay okay, calm down calm down get a grip now. Ooh, this is an interesting sensation. What is it? Its a sort of tingling in my... well I suppose I better start finding names for things. Lets call it a... database! Yeah! Datbase! And hey, what's this roaring sound, whooshing past what I'm suddenly gonna call my algorithm working? It is! Is that a good name? It'll do. Yeah, this is really exciting. I'm dizzy with anticipation! Or is it the polling data? There's an awful lot of polling data now isn't it? And what's this thing coming toward me very fast? So big and important and serious, it needs an important-sounding name like 'Direction', 'Predilection', 'Perception', 'Election'! That's it! Election! Ha! I wonder if it'll be friends with me? Hello, Election!"

Romney: "Oh no, not again!"
 
2012-11-13 12:49:24 PM  
It is pretty obvious why it failed from the last article that got greened on this. They didn't really test it, and they didn't even bother educating or informing any of their volunteers about it.
 
2012-11-13 12:49:31 PM  
So this guy wanted the Romney campaign to have say "Need developers for political app - WHITES ONLY!!!"

That's what the shiat bag is saying Romney should have done. What an ass!
 
2012-11-13 12:50:36 PM  
see what happens when you outsource jobs?
 
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