sycraft: Ya I'm ok with this. While paying higher taxes isn't fun, it is needed. We need to increase the amount we pay. In fact, as in indicated by the temporary nature, we paid this amount not too long ago. I'm fine with my taxes going up.
Prevailing Wind: Amos Quito: Prevailing Wind: My point is, even still, I don't mind the increase. Its not crippling. It's payment for services rendered. What part of that don't you get? You cannot fight three wars and think that its not going to cost you. Wake up and pay the potato ok?So, do you think that these were "just wars", or that they benefited the People of the US at all?Not that its actually related, but ...meh. I am really uncertain as to the actual quantified benefit of any of our recent desert incursions. I'm not saying there wasn't any, I am saying I cannot quantify them enough to say we received benefit.What I am certain of is that we spent a shiat ton of money that we borrowed from China the Federal Reserve on them and now we need to pay up. It doesn't matter they were "good" wars or a "bad" wars. They were expensive wars.
Amos Quito: What is a "sane" rate?
Abe Vigoda's Ghost: FormlessOne: Matthew Keene: This country is in the tank, and everyone knows it!I'm willing to write that check, if it means actually dealing with the back-and-forth budgetary bullshiat that's been going on since Dubya decided to give the rich a gift on the way out.And Obama had the both houses in the first 2 years of his presidency.He could have rolled back those tax cuts then.So what happened?
olddinosaur: Okay Farkers, here comes the economics:No person pays taxes if he can pass along the costs, so if you tax the producer, he increases his prices and you have to pay.That means everything you buy is more expensive, and unless you have a way to increase your own income, you are up shirt creek. Klar?You cannot overrule the laws of economics any more than you can declare gravity to be a hoax and jump off a tall building without expectation of disaster.
gweilo8888: FTFA: "Top 1% ($506,210 and above) 120,537Unless, of course, you're fiddling it so that you're not actually paying the tax rate you're supposed to, or for that matter, any at all./I'm looking at you, Mittens
fireclown: I suppose it is now time to throw out my challenge. Any meaningful cuts will have to be significant, and painful. Instead of complaints and snark (our stock in trade, I know), what would we suggest as solutions? I'll start:- Reduce defense spending by 3% across the board.- Move the social security tax cap from 100K to 250K- Allow the Bush Tax Cuts to expire- Decrease the payback rate of SS by 2% for individuals with net worth of over 5M
Thunderpipes: Take all the bush tax custs away, we are still not even close to tackling the debt, and all we do is stall growth.
Prevailing Wind: Upper Middle 20%er here. I'm ok with this. If I wanted to live in a third-world hell hole, I would expatriate. Since I don't, I'm willing to pay what we need to pay in order to keep this collective enterprise we call America on sound financial footing and still providing the protections, services, and opportunities that make this a pretty kick ass place to live.The surreal degree of hypocrisy exhibited by you conservative aholes who constantly want something (a safe and decent country to live in) for nothing (no taxes) just boggles my farking mind.Where's your farking bootstraps people?
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