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(Boston.com)   Obama considers John Kerry to serve as the next Secretary of Defense. Republicans in Congress are expected to consider his Swift boat experience   (boston.com) divider line 100
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-13 09:40:48 AM
Republicans also consider that Scott Brown has at least a slim chance at taking a seat away from whomever Governor Patrick appoints vs. none of taking Kerry's.
 
2012-11-13 10:00:17 AM
If it weren't for "Stars Earn Stripes" I'd say Sec. of Defense should go to Wesley Clark.
 
2012-11-13 10:01:42 AM

ZAZ: Republicans also consider that Scott Brown has at least a slim chance at taking a seat away from whomever Governor Patrick appoints vs. none of taking Kerry's.


Your comment made no sense to me until I read that side article about the Chatter about John Kerry appointment highlights political focus on Deval Patrick.

One of the reader's suggested it was possible that Brown would run for Governor since Patrick is leaving. That seems more likely to me than another Senate run.
 
2012-11-13 10:05:11 AM
For the love of god stop pilfering governors/senators for cabinet picks. You need them where they are!
 
2012-11-13 10:10:35 AM
How about no?
 
2012-11-13 10:12:24 AM

Diogenes: If it weren't for "Stars Earn Stripes" I'd say Sec. of Defense should go to Wesley Clark.


No. Just farking no.

Clark was a fark up. If we would have been facing even a third rate power Kosovo would have been a disaster.
 
2012-11-13 10:13:25 AM
kevinbsnyder.com

You know he's tempted. Republican's would have a hard time saying "no".
 
2012-11-13 10:13:49 AM
Sec Def should just go to the CEO of Lockheed, and cut out all the middle men
 
2012-11-13 10:14:51 AM
This has to be a feint by Obama. Kerry couldn't possibly handle that. He's about as intimidating as Romney.

Look at the Defense Sec. of the past - they look like they have a screw loose. You want to pick someone that intimidates your enemies, or at least looks crazy enough to make it seem like you are the only one holding back his unhinged need to bomb everything.
 
2012-11-13 10:14:53 AM

GameSprocket: [kevinbsnyder.com image 416x450]

You know he's tempted. Republican's would have a hard time saying "no".


Been asleep for the past 4 years Mr. Van Winkle?
 
2012-11-13 10:15:03 AM

GameSprocket: [kevinbsnyder.com image 416x450]

You know he's tempted. Republican's would have a hard time saying "no".


Hopefully the Democrats would stand up and vote against that honorless, lying piece of excrement.
 
2012-11-13 10:15:05 AM

GameSprocket: [kevinbsnyder.com image 416x450]

You know he's tempted. Republican's would have a hard time saying "no".


Like the Republicans would ever approve of such a card-carrying liberal.
 
2012-11-13 10:15:31 AM

DamnYankees: For the love of god stop pilfering governors/senators for cabinet picks. You need them where they are!


Seriously. Get a retired governor/senator, or maybe somebody already in the State Department. Actually, considering all the issues with State that were discussed after the Benghazi attack, you might want to get a career State employee who's familiar with all the problems to try to fix them.
 
2012-11-13 10:15:44 AM

Epoch_Zero: He's about as intimidating as Romney.


Why, exactly, does the Secretary of Defense have to be intimidating? Robert Gates seemed like the most mild-mannered guy in the room.
 
2012-11-13 10:17:02 AM
How about General Petraeus? He has experience in foreign wars and with domestic affairs.
 
2012-11-13 10:20:32 AM

lilbjorn: How about General Petraeus? He has experience in foreign wars and with domestic affairs.


ZING
 
2012-11-13 10:21:44 AM
I hope not... Not that Kerry wouldn't be able to do the job, but that would give Scott Brown another opportunity to run for Senator. Screw that noise. We just got rid of that asshole.
 
2012-11-13 10:23:04 AM

Diogenes: If it weren't for "Stars Earn Stripes" I'd say Sec. of Defense should go to Wesley Clark.


I forgot about General Clark, wonder what he's been doing.
 
2012-11-13 10:23:54 AM
DamnYankees:Why, exactly, does the Secretary of Defense have to be intimidating? Robert Gates seemed like the most mild-mannered guy in the room.

A lot of people confuse being an asshole with being effective.
 
2012-11-13 10:24:58 AM

Epoch_Zero: You want to pick someone that intimidates your enemies, or at least looks crazy enough to make it seem like you are the only one holding back his unhinged need to bomb everything.


www.navtones.com
 
2012-11-13 10:26:05 AM
right-wing talking points:

Point out Kerry got a purple heart for a small piece of shrapnel that only required a bandaid, while other soldiers refused their purple hearts and trips back to the states so that they could be true patriots and serve out their tour of duty with their buddies.

Mention how Kerry came back to protest the war leading to him calling our soldiers murderers and terrorists and a greater threat than communists.

bring up his flip-flopping nature

work in Benghazi

other random wargarbl-du-jour
 
2012-11-13 10:26:57 AM

Epoch_Zero: This has to be a feint by Obama. Kerry couldn't possibly handle that. He's about as intimidating as Romney.

Look at the Defense Sec. of the past - they look like they have a screw loose. You want to pick someone that intimidates your enemies, or at least looks crazy enough to make it seem like you are the only one holding back his unhinged need to bomb everything.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-13 10:27:35 AM

keylock71: I hope not... Not that Kerry wouldn't be able to do the job, but that would give Scott Brown another opportunity to run for Senator. Screw that noise. We just got rid of that asshole.


If he's not called up for Secretary of Defense then he will probably be Secretary of State. Either way we get to see more pickup truck commercials!
 
2012-11-13 10:28:54 AM

Epoch_Zero: This has to be a feint by Obama. Kerry couldn't possibly handle that. He's about as intimidating as Romney.

Look at the Defense Sec. of the past - they look like they have a screw loose. You want to pick someone that intimidates your enemies, or at least looks crazy enough to make it seem like you are the only one holding back his unhinged need to bomb everything.


There's only one man for the job, a reincarnated Sherman!

www.sfmuseum.net

/look at him, he looks like the photographer that took that picture was wearing a gray coat and he's reaching for a pistol
 
2012-11-13 10:32:46 AM
Sam Nunn.

\too old?
 
2012-11-13 10:35:34 AM

GameSprocket: [kevinbsnyder.com image 416x450]

You know he's tempted. Republican's would have a hard time saying "no".


He'd be a good choice.
After backing Obama the Dem's forgave all his sins and were ready to give him a medal.

/Not that he's likely to accept.
 
2012-11-13 10:36:16 AM

Jackson Herring: keylock71: I hope not... Not that Kerry wouldn't be able to do the job, but that would give Scott Brown another opportunity to run for Senator. Screw that noise. We just got rid of that asshole.

If he's not called up for Secretary of Defense then he will probably be Secretary of State. Either way we get to see more pickup truck commercials!


Oh, goody...

www.examiner.com
 
2012-11-13 10:36:52 AM

keylock71: Oh, goody...


jesus christ look at the size of that door star
 
2012-11-13 10:37:01 AM

thunderbird8804: he looks like the photographer that took that picture was wearing a gray coat and he's reaching for a pistol


Which brings us to the important question of the day: Why was it considered stylish or classy back then to pose with a hand in your shirt? Is that how they made sure them devil-picture-making whatsits didn't steal their souls?

// that pose is only OK for women not wearing shirts
 
2012-11-13 10:38:28 AM

Jackson Herring: keylock71: Oh, goody...

jesus christ look at the size of that door star


They must really love America...
 
2012-11-13 10:39:42 AM

keylock71: I hope not... Not that Kerry wouldn't be able to do the job, but that would give Scott Brown another opportunity to run for Senator. Screw that noise. We just got rid of that asshole.


He might want the jerb because he wants to take another go at the WH...?
 
2012-11-13 10:41:29 AM

Dr Dreidel: thunderbird8804: he looks like the photographer that took that picture was wearing a gray coat and he's reaching for a pistol

Which brings us to the important question of the day: Why was it considered stylish or classy back then to pose with a hand in your shirt? Is that how they made sure them devil-picture-making whatsits didn't steal their souls?

// that pose is only OK for women not wearing shirts


This is why:
sblawlink.com
 
2012-11-13 10:42:10 AM

Jackson Herring: keylock71: Oh, goody...

jesus christ look at the size of that door star


It's to represent their door serving in Afghanistan.
 
2012-11-13 10:45:15 AM

DamnYankees: Epoch_Zero: He's about as intimidating as Romney.

Why, exactly, does the Secretary of Defense have to be intimidating? Robert Gates seemed like the most mild-mannered guy in the room.


Gates was also a cold war republican paranoid, wholly in the pockets of the military. Petreus is no better - worse, in some cases.
*cough* Iraq*cough*

Political clout. It immediately puts the opposition on the defensive and makes the President seem like the safer option to place any trust in. Good cop, bad cop. "My friend over here has repeatedly called for air strikes on certain areas of your country - I for one am not in agreement with him. If you help me out, I can make sure he isn't put in direct control of much, and will talk him down. If not, well..."

thunderbird8804: There's only one man for the job, a reincarnated Sherman!


Oh, no man. Only someone who looks like they're unhinged. Not someone who will actually beat you to death with your own spine.
 
2012-11-13 10:46:06 AM
I'd nominate Joe Wilson for Secretary of State. (Not the "You lie!" guy, but the one with proven diplomatic credentials.) That would put a huge bee in the bonnet of the conservatives.
 
2012-11-13 10:46:07 AM

Epoch_Zero: This has to be a feint by Obama. Kerry couldn't possibly handle that. He's about as intimidating as Romney.


That'd be the same John Kerry who drove a gunboat up the Danang River. There's no doubt 100 years from now students of PR and propaganda will study diligently the swiftboating of John Kerry and the photo of Dubya landing on the aircraft carrier. "Students, notice how the straps are pulled up around the groin signifying to the other dumb monkeys that he is the alpha male."

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-13 10:46:28 AM

GameSprocket: [kevinbsnyder.com image 416x450]
(picture of Colin Powell)
You know he's tempted. Republican's would have a hard time saying "no".


Silly liberal. You know that conservatives never let facts and logic get in the way of a good ol' fashioned character assassination. He'll be labelled a commie RINO secret Insert name of African Country here muslim druid pagan or other non-christian religion socialist and the inmates will be running the asylum by the next presidential election.
 
2012-11-13 10:47:38 AM
Colin Powell really?

An endorsement of Obama wipes out Powells lying about WMDs and Scud missles thousands of American soldiers and millions of Iraqi civillians dying.....


this is why some people think liberalism is a mental disorder.

John Kerry?....Thats like the lefts Mitt Romney......wtf is wrong with you people.
 
2012-11-13 10:49:01 AM
Oddly enough, the logical person to take the State job would be...Deval Patrick. Get him some nice name recognition before he runs for President in 2016. Dunno if people would appreciate him leaving the state to his lieutenant for a year and a half, though.

I'm assuming he's running, and that Warren isn't.
 
2012-11-13 10:49:05 AM
From Joe Wilson's wiki article: he became the last American diplomat to meet with Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, telling him in very clear terms to leave Kuwait (Wilson, The Politics of Truth 107-27). When Hussein sent a note to Wilson (along with other embassy heads in Baghdad) threatening to execute anyone sheltering foreigners in Iraq, Wilson publicly repudiated the dictator by appearing at a press conference wearing a homemade noose around his neck and declaring, "If the choice is to allow American citizens to be taken hostage or to be executed, I will bring my own farking rope." Despite Hussein's threats, Wilson sheltered more than 100 Americans at the embassy and successfully evacuated several thousand people (Americans and other nationals) from Iraq. For his actions, he was called a "a true American hero" by President George H. W. Bush.
 
2012-11-13 10:49:39 AM
If I put down my flask that sumabiatch gonna steal my whiskey!
www.sfmuseum.net
 
2012-11-13 10:50:14 AM
and Rmoney was in paris getting his dick sucked.

Though an early supporter of the Vietnam War, Romney avoided military service at the height of the fighting after high school by seeking and receiving four draft deferments, according to Selective Service records. They included college deferments and a 31-month stretch as a "minister of religion" in France, a classification for Mormon missionaries that the church at the time feared was being overused. The country was cutting troop levels by the time he became eligible for the draft, and his lottery number was not called.

i'm sure the CONgress would have brought that up if Rmoney had won the election. seeeing as how they are so principled and all.
 
2012-11-13 10:50:49 AM
State:
www.stevedennie.com

Defense:
images.politico.com

CIA:
cdn.ph.upi.com
 
2012-11-13 10:53:00 AM

Dr Dreidel: thunderbird8804: he looks like the photographer that took that picture was wearing a gray coat and he's reaching for a pistol

Which brings us to the important question of the day: Why was it considered stylish or classy back then to pose with a hand in your shirt? Is that how they made sure them devil-picture-making whatsits didn't steal their souls?

// that pose is only OK for women not wearing shirts


It was "a common stance for men of breeding." In other words, like the onion on the belt, it was just the style of the time.
 
2012-11-13 10:53:15 AM
I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fark with me, I'll kill you all..............


Actually, it's a lot of fun to fight. You know, it's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right upfront with you, I like brawling.... You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them..................

How bout James Mattis......
 
2012-11-13 10:53:53 AM
John Kerry would be borderline insulting to former and current members of the Armed Forces. There are plenty of Democrats, binders full even, he could find from any wing of his party that would be better for the job.
 
2012-11-13 10:54:01 AM
And offer HUD to Romney!
 
2012-11-13 10:54:05 AM
reidreport.com
Seems like a level headed guy. Hard for the GOP to throw a tantrum over the pick.

Who am I kidding. They always find a way to throw a tantrum.
 
2012-11-13 10:55:45 AM

GameSprocket: [kevinbsnyder.com image 416x450]

You know he's tempted. Republican's would have a hard time saying "no".



he'd be an excellent choice, imho. but he had such a nightmare experience under george that he probably can't bring himself to commit.
 
2012-11-13 10:57:35 AM
The way Republicans treated Kerry's military record should have poisoned their support from military voters for decades, but it didn't, and I don't understand why.
 
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