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(Entertainment Weekly)   Ranking the 23 James Bond films. Nothing will top the sheer awesome that was Goldeneye   (ew.com ) divider line 227
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2012-11-13 08:41:19 AM  
Dalton is probably the only Bond I never have the urge to rewatch when I run across one of this films playing on TV. I find his portrayal so boring.
 
2012-11-13 08:43:11 AM  
Nothing will also top the sheer suckitude that is a slideshow. Fortunately, we can deslide this bad boy...
 
2012-11-13 08:50:32 AM  
I'm sorry, I thought I just saw a list that included four (4) Roger Moore movies ahead of Dr. No. I must have been mistaken.
 
2012-11-13 09:10:12 AM  
The Spy Who Loved Me was the best Bond. It's also the first one where he outright kills a woman, instead of her dying just by being in his proximity. I will admit Domino was hotter than Anya, but, Anya does a nude scene on the sub, so it's that much better.
 
2012-11-13 09:18:45 AM  
Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.
 
2012-11-13 09:26:12 AM  

BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.


You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.
 
2012-11-13 09:30:47 AM  
Goldeneye was badass, because it was still about Bond. He fought, he got his ass kicked, and he still succeeded. Every one after that (in the Brosnan era) was more about the technology that Bond and the bad guys carried (invisible car...WTF?!)

Casino Royale was amazing. It brought Bond back to the real world. It showed him getting tortured (the rope scene made me cringe), and still coming out of it looking badass.

QoS was Bond in name only. It was a revenge flick, not a spy flick and had a terrible plot/bad guy motivation to boot.
 
2012-11-13 09:30:50 AM  

Sybarite: Dalton is probably the only Bond I never have the urge to rewatch when I run across one of this films playing on TV. I find his portrayal so boring.


i believe the faint-praise word you're seeking is "workmanlike."

/still like dalton
//nearest to connery in badassery
 
2012-11-13 09:34:18 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.


You say that like it matters. Sean Connery is Bond.
 
2012-11-13 09:44:13 AM  

Sybarite: Dalton is probably the only Bond I never have the urge to rewatch when I run across one of this films playing on TV. I find his portrayal so boring.


I never liked Timothy Dalton as Bond. I remember being very disappointed after watching the first movie with him as Bond. He just wasn't as smooth as James Bond should be.

And with respect to the list, Tomorrow Never Dies needs I higher ranking...if anything because of Michelle Yeoh. She's beautiful and an actual bad ass (only woman Jackie Chan ever ok-ed doing her own stunts). And she was farking 35 when she did that movie and looked like this:

s9.postimage.org
 
2012-11-13 09:52:29 AM  
Just saw Skyfall last night and loved it. I get the criticism about the lack of henchman, the lack of a plot to take over the world, no real Bond girls, but I think that is all irrelevant and done primarily by people who have never read the Bond books and don't understand that Skyfall is more true to the character Fleming came up with than any Bond in the past thirty years.
 
2012-11-13 10:04:00 AM  
From the article:

23. Moonraker
22. Die Another Day
21. Quantum of Solace
20. The World is Not Enough
19. You Only Live Twice
18. The Living Daylights
17. Diamonds Are Forever
16. The Man With the Golden Gun
15. Tomorrow Never Dies
14. Live and Let Die
13. Dr. No
12. A View to a Kill
11. License to Kill
10. Octopussy
9. For Your Eyes Only
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
7. GoldenEye
6. Casino Royale
5. Thunderball
4. Skyfall
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. From Russia With Love
1. Goldfinger
 
2012-11-13 10:14:35 AM  
Timothy Dalton wasn't THAT bad, and The Living Daylights is way more rewatchable than License to Kill.

Also nice to see On Her Majesty's Secret Service getting some love - that was a well-played story.

But ranking Goldeneye, A View to a Kill and Octopussy ahead of Dr. No is a hangin' crime.
 
2012-11-13 10:21:58 AM  

ArkAngel: DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.

You say that like it matters. Sean Connery is Bond.


Ah, I see.

You must frequent the Politics tab a lot.
 
2012-11-13 10:24:45 AM  
...did they...just list...On Her Majesty's Secret Service at #3...??

That movie was AWFUL. Unwatchable. Horribly godawful.

/ the rest of the list was solid, though
 
2012-11-13 10:25:18 AM  

Rincewind53: Just saw Skyfall last night and loved it. I get the criticism about the lack of henchman, the lack of a plot to take over the world, no real Bond girls, but I think that is all irrelevant and done primarily by people who have never read the Bond books and don't understand that Skyfall is more true to the character Fleming came up with than any Bond in the past thirty years.


All this is absolutely true, but with SKYFALL, they gave Craig's Bond a slight polish so that while he is
as thuggish as the literary Bond, he has a veneer of the movie Bond's smoothness that, for me,
makes him the perfect Bond.
 
2012-11-13 10:27:15 AM  

Wellon Dowd: From the article:

23. Moonraker

21. Quantum of Solace
20. The World is Not Enough
19. You Only Live Twice
18. The Living Daylights
17. Diamonds Are Forever
16. The Man With the Golden Gun
15. Tomorrow Never Dies
14. Live and Let Die
13. Dr. No
12. A View to a Kill
11. License to Kill
10. Octopussy
9. For Your Eyes Only
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
7. GoldenEye
6. Casino Royale
5. Thunderball
4. Skyfall
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. From Russia With Love
1. Goldfinger



Let me fix this list.  I'm a Connery>Brosnan>Craig>Moore>Dalton man myself.  Lazenby was okay that movie was awfully unwatchable.  Kojak?
 
My top 5:

Thunderball
Goldeneye
Goldfinger
From Russia With Love
Casino Royale
 
Then a bunch of them
 
My bottom 5:
 
Moonraker
Never say Never Again
The Man with the Golden Gun
Live and Let Die
On Her Majesty's Secret Service (health food was the plot)
 
Best fight scene?  Train with Robert Shaw in From Russia With Love.  But Thunderball has a great finale with a 20 minute underwater 50 on 50 fight scene. 
Best Bond girl?  Pussy Galore
Best Felix? The black guy in Quantum of Silence and Casino Royale.
 
2012-11-13 10:30:25 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: Rincewind53: Just saw Skyfall last night and loved it. I get the criticism about the lack of henchman, the lack of a plot to take over the world, no real Bond girls, but I think that is all irrelevant and done primarily by people who have never read the Bond books and don't understand that Skyfall is more true to the character Fleming came up with than any Bond in the past thirty years.

All this is absolutely true, but with SKYFALL, they gave Craig's Bond a slight polish so that while he is
as thuggish as the literary Bond, he has a veneer of the movie Bond's smoothness that, for me,
makes him the perfect Bond.



Haven't seen it yet.  From the trailers that looks right.  Craig can do charming and funny.  They just didn't bother with that in Casino Royale or QoS.  If they had, he'd be the top Bond.  They did too much of that with Brosnan and Moore.  Dalton, Lazenby, and Craig have been thuggish boring James Bonds even if more closely resembling the Ian Fleming Bond.  Craig has been dazzling in his fight scenes though.  He just needed some...polish.
 
2012-11-13 10:44:33 AM  

I_C_Weener: DjangoStonereaver: Rincewind53: Just saw Skyfall last night and loved it. I get the criticism about the lack of henchman, the lack of a plot to take over the world, no real Bond girls, but I think that is all irrelevant and done primarily by people who have never read the Bond books and don't understand that Skyfall is more true to the character Fleming came up with than any Bond in the past thirty years.

All this is absolutely true, but with SKYFALL, they gave Craig's Bond a slight polish so that while he is
as thuggish as the literary Bond, he has a veneer of the movie Bond's smoothness that, for me,
makes him the perfect Bond.


Haven't seen it yet.  From the trailers that looks right.  Craig can do charming and funny.  They just didn't bother with that in Casino Royale or QoS.  If they had, he'd be the top Bond.  They did too much of that with Brosnan and Moore.  Dalton, Lazenby, and Craig have been thuggish boring James Bonds even if more closely resembling the Ian Fleming Bond.  Craig has been dazzling in his fight scenes though.  He just needed some...polish.


Craig is the James Bond-equivalent of a nice, understated French manicure.

Moore, OTOH, is one of those lacquered on appliques with lots of spangles and pictures of kitties.
 
2012-11-13 10:51:22 AM  
Uh, okay. I'll say it.

SKYFALL made me need new pants as a life-long Bond movie fan. All of the mytharc callbacks, and half-answered lore teasers (Including the hint that the "people" are truely different people, despite all being the same name and designators) were awesome.

And the old Aston Marton with the ejector seat? Wonderful.
 
2012-11-13 10:51:45 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: Moore, OTOH, is one of those lacquered on appliques with lots of spangles and pictures of kitties.



Moore's problem was that he wasn't the Saint anymore.  He was a charicature of himself like Shatner.  And he was caught in the 1970s.  Brown suits, bell bottoms.  Octopussy was his best.  For Your Eyes Only was very good.  A View to a Kill was okay.  Moonraker unwatchable.  That Yaphet Kotto movie could have been better.
 
Craig is just all about the death toll in the first two movies.  A Jason Bourne.  A kiling machine but no sense of style or humor or fun.  Great action though.
 
I have high hopes that Skyfall makes him more fun.
 
2012-11-13 11:08:47 AM  
Connery's the best movie Bond. Craig came close in Casino Royale, but in the end, Quantum of Solace and Skyfall both sucked.
 
2012-11-13 11:12:55 AM  
I have to go with GoldenEye as well. Brosnan was a smooth badass, M was a total biatch and Sean Bean was a great pissed off villain. And it had the hottest Bond girls.
 
2012-11-13 11:14:18 AM  

I_C_Weener: DjangoStonereaver: Moore, OTOH, is one of those lacquered on appliques with lots of spangles and pictures of kitties.


Moore's problem was that he wasn't the Saint anymore.  He was a charicature of himself like Shatner.  And he was caught in the 1970s.  Brown suits, bell bottoms.  Octopussy was his best.  For Your Eyes Only was very good.  A View to a Kill was okay.  Moonraker unwatchable.  That Yaphet Kotto movie could have been better.


RTV is showing the ITV SAINTs, and I was amazed at how much of a badass Moore could be.

Pity almost none of that translated into his James Bond.
 
2012-11-13 11:19:47 AM  
The World is Not Enough should have been much higher o the list. It had the best theme song, IMO. Robbie Coltrane kicked some ass and Bond was pretty cold blooded in that one.
 
2012-11-13 11:33:38 AM  

kronicfeld: I'm sorry, I thought I just saw a list that included four (4) Roger Moore movies ahead of Dr. No. I must have been mistaken.


This tells me I need not look at the list.

Moore = Bill Shatner
 
2012-11-13 11:35:39 AM  

Sybarite: Dalton is probably the only Bond I never have the urge to rewatch when I run across one of this films playing on TV. I find his portrayal so boring.


I don't blame him. He's more Bond-like in several other roles than he was actually as Bond. Bad scripts. Bad direction.
 
2012-11-13 11:38:51 AM  
as an aside, I always hated the title "Goldeneye." It felt like a half-ass title made up because it sounded like a James Bond title; that further annoys me because it also sounds too much like Goldfinger.
 
2012-11-13 11:40:05 AM  
Barbara Bach (Agent XXX) was the best Bond girl ever. Nope sorry, not debatable, no discussion, she was the best, LALALALALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
 
2012-11-13 11:44:11 AM  
Quantum of Solace wasn't that bad.
 
2012-11-13 11:47:30 AM  

Wellon Dowd: From the article:

23. Moonraker
22. Die Another Day
21. Quantum of Solace
20. The World is Not Enough
19. You Only Live Twice
18. The Living Daylights
17. Diamonds Are Forever
16. The Man With the Golden Gun
15. Tomorrow Never Dies
14. Live and Let Die
13. Dr. No
12. A View to a Kill
11. License to Kill
10. Octopussy
9. For Your Eyes Only
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
7. GoldenEye
6. Casino Royale
5. Thunderball
4. Skyfall
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. From Russia With Love
1. Goldfinger


A View to a Kill and License to Kill are rated higher than Dr. No, the only Bond movie where he did actual spy stuff? And somehow Skyfall is the 4th best Bond movie? Moonraker is somehow worse than Die Another Day? This list is random.
 
2012-11-13 11:48:01 AM  
I believe I have seen them all except Skyfall, but I can only remember maybe 8 of them distinctly. Everything about Roger Moore was forgettable.

Thunderball, Goldeneye, Casino Royale, and Goldfinger are the ones the stand out as the best of the series.
 
2012-11-13 11:48:40 AM  
Oh, and somehow Octopussy is the 10th best Bond film? On what planet? I'm not a Bond expert, but that seems very unlikely.
 
2012-11-13 11:49:16 AM  
I'm going to be thoroughly drubbed for this, but I like Dalton the best followed by Craig and then Connery. Moore is too much a wiseass and Brosnan is a modern Moore. Lazenby...forgettable.
 
2012-11-13 11:49:50 AM  
I like GoldenEye but mostly because I've always had a thing for Famke Janssen and she was pretty damn hot in that movie:

images.hollywood.com
 
2012-11-13 11:53:28 AM  
Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.
 
2012-11-13 11:54:13 AM  

docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.



That's a long winded way of saying I'm old isn't it?  Well get off my Sean Connery lawn!!!
 
2012-11-13 11:57:12 AM  

docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


Doubtful. I was born in 1977 and Dalton can never be Bond. Prince of the Robin Hood people, but never James Bond.
 
2012-11-13 11:58:03 AM  
Goldeneye will always be my #1 because of the N64 game. Nick Nack and Proximity Mines FTW!
 
2012-11-13 12:00:58 PM  
 
2012-11-13 12:01:21 PM  

docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


No. By my age Moore and Dalton should be "my" Bonds. But in all actuality I'd put Connery #1 and Craig #2.
 
2012-11-13 12:02:55 PM  

ArkAngel: DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.

You say that like it matters. Sean Connery is Bond.


Who the fark reads Ian Fleming novels?
 
2012-11-13 12:02:56 PM  

Lego_Addict: Goldeneye will always be my #1 because of the N64 game. Nick Nack and Proximity Mines FTW!


No Oddjob!!!!
 
2012-11-13 12:04:02 PM  

BronyMedic: Uh, okay. I'll say it.

SKYFALL made me need new pants as a life-long Bond movie fan. All of the mytharc callbacks, and half-answered lore teasers (Including the hint that the "people" are truely different people, despite all being the same name and designators) were awesome.

And the old Aston Marton with the ejector seat? Wonderful.


It made absolutely zero sense for this car to be in the movie. There's only one James Bond; Sean Connery's Bond doesn't exist in the Daniel Craig Bond universe. Are we to believe that this Aston Martin was just some MI6 relic? Bond won a DB5 in Casino Royale. It should have been this car in the movie (sans ejector seat and machine guns) that Bond had simply been keeping in storage.

I was actually really disappointed with Skyfall. Clunky dialogue, CGI komodo dragons, and the silly Home Alone ending kind of ruined it for me.

/Casino Royale is still my favorite
//Dr. No and Goldeneye are close seconds
 
2012-11-13 12:05:45 PM  

whistleridge: That movie was AWFUL. Unwatchable. Horribly godawful.

/ the rest of the list was solid, though


Lazenby actually went 'undercover' using accents and costumes to be more 'spy-like', so there is that, but it's not what we expect from Bond, so it was out of place. Also, the director made it a little too campy for my tastes, the sets looked like upscale Batman or Green Hornet sets.
 
2012-11-13 12:05:52 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: as an aside, I always hated the title "Goldeneye." It felt like a half-ass title made up because it sounded like a James Bond title; that further annoys me because it also sounds too much like Goldfinger.


If I'm not mistaken, Goldeneye was the name of Fleming's Jamaican estate. It was a way for the writers to pay homage to the author after they ran out of actual Bond titles.
 
2012-11-13 12:06:01 PM  

cgraves67: I'm going to be thoroughly drubbed for this, but I like Dalton the best followed by Craig and then Connery. Moore is too much a wiseass and Brosnan is a modern Moore. Lazenby...forgettable.


You've got to remember that Timothy Dalton was stepping in after 12 years of Roger Moore. He was precisely what the franchise needed at that point. Less humorous, more hard-edged, almost all the things Daniel Craig is being praised for now, actually.

Robert Davi as Sanchez from "Licence To Kill" has to be one of the best, if not the best Bond villains ever.
 
2012-11-13 12:06:46 PM  
I thought TWINE was a shiat ton better than the likes of octopussy. Other than that Goldfinger, Goldeneye, and Casino Royale are my faves. That was a cool factoid about Goldeneye.
 
2012-11-13 12:11:19 PM  
I blame Moore for turning the Bond series into a mockery of itself that took 30 years to set right. I honestly think Dalton could have been a better Bond if it weren't for people being so used to Moore's slapstick nonsense. He wanted to make Bond serious again, and over-corrected.

Goldeneye was pretty awesome, and is the exception to the rule.
 
2012-11-13 12:16:04 PM  

docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


I grew up with Roger Moore and, no.
 
2012-11-13 12:16:13 PM  
Screw all you Moonraker haters. I like it better than most Bond films and find it holds up really well compared to most with repeated viewings and age. Some of the Connery movies are hard to watch now with the fake screens, 60's acting style. Likewise the Dalton era was an awful time for movies as a whole. Late 80's bad scripts, bad directing, bad music, bad hair.  Just a terrible time to be alive.
 
2012-11-13 12:16:45 PM  

I_C_Weener: Moore's problem was that he wasn't the Saint anymore. He was a charicature of himself like Shatner


I read this and now I want to go back in time so that I can get a Moore Bond movie made where the Shatner is the villian. Maybe replace Walken in A View to a Kill?
 
2012-11-13 12:18:10 PM  

docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


The first Bond I saw in a theater was License to Kill>. I haven't been motiviated to see it again. I liked Craig and Brosnan, even if their performances couldn't be more dissimilar. My main complaint about every single Bond film is that the writing sucks. Spy movies that are utterly lacking in intrigue and mystery.
 
2012-11-13 12:20:04 PM  
Am I the only one that thinks Goldfinger is overrated? It's always near the top of the list of Bond films, but I never considered it that great. It also seems to be overplayed. If you flip through TV channels and there's a Bond film on, it's either Goldfinger or a Brosnan or later movie.
 
2012-11-13 12:20:23 PM  

NewWorldDan: docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.

The first Bond I saw in a theater was License to Kill>. I haven't been motiviated to see it again. I liked Craig and Brosnan, even if their performances couldn't be more dissimilar. My main complaint about every single Bond film is that the writing sucks. Spy movies that are utterly lacking in intrigue and mystery.


If you want spy films, stick with Lecarre adaptations. Bond films are action flicks.
 
2012-11-13 12:23:05 PM  

docmattic: If you want spy films, stick with Lecarre adaptations. Bond films are action flicks.


Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy sucked and sucked hard. The last "spy" movie I liked was the debt.
 
2012-11-13 12:24:03 PM  

Mugato: docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.

I grew up with Roger Moore and, no.


I will say, it was a good post. Dear lord, I did not enjoy Moore Bond movies. Connery is definitive Bond. Brosnan was number 2 but saddled with crummy movies after Goldeneye.

I hear people like this gritty blonde fellow, good for him.
 
2012-11-13 12:24:40 PM  

swaxhog: Screw all you Moonraker haters. I like it better than most Bond films and find it holds up really well compared to most with repeated viewings and age.


Double-take pigeon from Venice would like a word with you.
 
2012-11-13 12:25:16 PM  
Say what you want, Diamonds are Forever ranks among the best Pwned endings; Bond-wise...
 
2012-11-13 12:26:17 PM  

thecpt: docmattic: If you want spy films, stick with Lecarre adaptations. Bond films are action flicks.

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy sucked and sucked hard. The last "spy" movie I liked was the debt.


I wanted to like TTSS. But Jesus it was a waste of time.

And yes, Bond was the prototype for action heroes.
 
2012-11-13 12:26:52 PM  
Holy shiat, Jane Seymour was smokin' in '73!
 
2012-11-13 12:29:40 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: as an aside, I always hated the title "Goldeneye." It felt like a half-ass title made up because it sounded like a James Bond title; that further annoys me because it also sounds too much like Goldfinger.


Ian Fleming was a former Intelligence Operative during WWII. He designed a contingency plan should the NAZI's attack Great Britain through Spain. The title of plan:
Operation Goldeneye.
When Fleming retired to Jamaica post war, he bought an estate there. It was at this estate he wrote all of his James Bond books.
The name of the Estate?
Goldeneye.

BTW - after seeing Skyfall twice this weekend in the theater, I went and watched Casino Royale and QoS back to back. CR hold up but QoS really doesn't, other than to tie up some loose threads from CR. I have always loved Goldeneye, it was the best of the Bronson movies and I was always a huge fan, but watching it yesterday for the first time in a while, I found it... difficult.
It was like I had to reset my brain to watch it. All things being equal, I'm glad for the reboot. Craig certainly returned some of the humor to the role, but it's far from the cliche ridden scripts we used to have.

s7.postimage.org

/"They always said the pen (puts on glasses) was mightier than the sword.."
//YAAAAHHHH!!!
 
2012-11-13 12:32:15 PM  

Wellon Dowd: From the article:

23. Moonraker
22. Die Another Day
21. Quantum of Solace
20. The World is Not Enough
19. You Only Live Twice
18. The Living Daylights
17. Diamonds Are Forever
16. The Man With the Golden Gun
15. Tomorrow Never Dies
14. Live and Let Die
13. Dr. No
12. A View to a Kill
11. License to Kill
10. Octopussy
9. For Your Eyes Only
8. The Spy Who Loved Me
7. GoldenEye
6. Casino Royale
5. Thunderball
4. Skyfall
3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
2. From Russia With Love
1. Goldfinger


Thanks....I wasn't keen on slide show viewing. I agree with the top choice, but AFAIC, NO Bond flick is more odious than The Living Daylights, which was so mind-numbingly dull that I barely remember what it was about.
 
2012-11-13 12:33:42 PM  
Sorry subby, but "Thunderball" is the best Bond movie of all time. OF ALL TIME. (shrugs)
 
2012-11-13 12:35:35 PM  

edip1976: I found it... difficult.


I still rewatch it about once a year, and you're absolutely right about resetting your brain. Once the mountain car race scene starts playing that weird seinfeld theme like music I just have to say to myself "it was like 17 years ago." Still a great movie.
 
2012-11-13 12:37:08 PM  
BTW -
You've all noticed this, right?

Ben Whishaw's Q
s7.postimage.org

Is a dead ringer for Moss from the IT Crowd.
s15.postimage.org

Makes it even funnier if you imagine Moss saying
"Now do be careful Double-Oh-Seven, and try to return the equipment in one piece."
 
2012-11-13 12:39:11 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.


Im in agreement with BillCo on this one and I am an obsessed Bond Fan. I think the list is:

1) Connery
2) Craig
3) Moore
4) Brosnan (Lost a lot of points for Die Another Day)
5) Lazenby
6) Dalton
 
2012-11-13 12:41:06 PM  
My top 5:

1. Goldfinger
2. Live and Let Die
3. The Man with the Golden Gun
4. Casino Royale
5. The Spy Who Loved Me
 
2012-11-13 12:43:33 PM  

edip1976: BTW -
You've all noticed this, right?

Ben Whishaw's Q
[s7.postimage.org image 640x474]

Is a dead ringer for Moss from the IT Crowd.
[s15.postimage.org image 640x426]

Makes it even funnier if you imagine Moss saying
"Now do be careful Double-Oh-Seven, and try to return the equipment in one piece."


Hello Q Branch? This is Bond and my Car's missiles aren't firing. "Did you try turning it off and turning it on again?
 
2012-11-13 12:43:50 PM  
Okay, aside from Madonna and a white North Korean and a sun laser thing and an invisible car (Wonder Woman's I think) what was so bad about Die Another Day?  I liked the opening sequence, the sword fight, and the North Korean war plot.  And I thought Remington Steele did a good job as Bond in it.  Oh wait...Halle Berry was in it wasn't she?  Yeah, Jinx was bad.
 
2012-11-13 12:45:18 PM  

EMCGuy: Am I the only one that thinks Goldfinger is overrated? It's always near the top of the list of Bond films, but I never considered it that great. It also seems to be overplayed. If you flip through TV channels and there's a Bond film on, it's either Goldfinger or a Brosnan or later movie.


I'm with you. Bond looks like an incompetent agent through the whole film and if it were not for the obfuscating stupidity of Goldfinger to keep him alive, Goldfinger would have been able to carry out his plan. The last-second save with Pussy Galore informing the U.S. authorities about Operation Grand Slam felt more like deus ex machina than a logical character choice. Had a bad-ass theme tune though. And Pussy Galore was smokin'.
 
2012-11-13 12:48:15 PM  

scottydoesntknow: QoS was Bond in name only. It was a revenge flick, not a spy flick and had a terrible plot/bad guy motivation to boot.


QoS was like a spin off movie that had nothing to do with Bond but he kept sort of popping up. It would have been a good Jinx spin off with a Bond cameo.
 
2012-11-13 12:48:46 PM  
Deadliest Bond villainess = SMERSH/SPECTRE agent Rosa Klebb.


That is all.
 
2012-11-13 12:49:48 PM  

hundreddollarman: EMCGuy: Am I the only one that thinks Goldfinger is overrated? It's always near the top of the list of Bond films, but I never considered it that great. It also seems to be overplayed. If you flip through TV channels and there's a Bond film on, it's either Goldfinger or a Brosnan or later movie.

I'm with you. Bond looks like an incompetent agent through the whole film and if it were not for the obfuscating stupidity of Goldfinger to keep him alive, Goldfinger would have been able to carry out his plan. The last-second save with Pussy Galore informing the U.S. authorities about Operation Grand Slam felt more like deus ex machina than a logical character choice. Had a bad-ass theme tune though. And Pussy Galore was smokin'.


There were quite a few memorable scenes and lines from that movie. Also I do like the idea that Bond is not infallible, unlike his later movies with Pierce Brosnan.

/yes, I expect you to die.
//no, I'm not dreaming
 
2012-11-13 12:52:20 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Lego_Addict: Goldeneye will always be my #1 because of the N64 game. Nick Nack and Proximity Mines FTW!

No Oddjob!!!!


That's right, it was Oddjob, not Nick Nack...this was a long time ago and I smoked a lot of weed back then. God damn, why do we have to grow up?
 
2012-11-13 12:53:26 PM  

I_C_Weener: Okay, aside from Madonna and a white North Korean and a sun laser thing and an invisible car (Wonder Woman's I think) what was so bad about Die Another Day?  I liked the opening sequence, the sword fight, and the North Korean war plot.  And I thought Remington Steele did a good job as Bond in it.  Oh wait...Halle Berry was in it wasn't she?  Yeah, Jinx was bad.


Not only Jinx was bad, the writers had the gall to compare her to Ursula Andress with the costume. I'll have to rewatch to see why it's so bad, but it was awful.

Still, Remington Steele should have been Bond during the Dalton interregnum. Jeez those were bad movies. I rate him lower than Lazenby.
 
2012-11-13 12:53:57 PM  

I_C_Weener: Okay, aside from Madonna and a white North Korean and a sun laser thing and an invisible car (Wonder Woman's I think) what was so bad about Die Another Day?


The building of ice. Parasurfing off an inceberg with a terrible cgi tidal wave.
 
2012-11-13 01:00:53 PM  

Bobby_and_The_Gorilla: Barbara Bach (Agent XXX) was the best Bond girl ever. Nope sorry, not debatable, no discussion, she was the best, LALALALALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!


Second best after Jane Seymour.
 
2012-11-13 01:01:50 PM  
As far as the hottest bond girl, I would have to say either Jane Seymour or Carole Bouquet.
 
2012-11-13 01:02:14 PM  

swaxhog: I_C_Weener: Okay, aside from Madonna and a white North Korean and a sun laser thing and an invisible car (Wonder Woman's I think) what was so bad about Die Another Day?

The building of ice. Parasurfing off an inceberg with a terrible cgi tidal wave.


The plan to invade worstkorea using floating hover craft.
 
2012-11-13 01:02:33 PM  

edip1976: Craig certainly returned some of the humor to the role


He did? I found the movie rather dour and humorless. Very... British. Not that that's bad, it just didn't have the levity that Bond movies usually have. Which is not a criticism, previous Bond movies could get goofy at times but I guess I just miss the fun that the Brosnan ones had.
 
2012-11-13 01:02:44 PM  

docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


I grew up with Moore and the goofy, gadget-heavy movies were my favorites as a kid, but by my late teens Connery had become the definitive Bond to me and has remained so ever since. Craig has my number two spot but could take the top position if he continues to impress for a couple of more films.
 
2012-11-13 01:03:01 PM  
Saw SKYFALL today. I've never been a big Bond fan, but it was good. Though I noticed a lot of Dark Knight parallels.

SPOILERS BELOW!!!! SPOILERS BELOW!!!! SPOILERS BELOW!!!! SPOILERS BELOW!!!!


Burning mansion with the hero inside, the bad guy caught on purpose, bad guys disfigurement is his mouth. I couldn't help but think of the scene where Joker is sticking his head out of the car window as M was reading her poetry and the quiet scene of the bad guy in the car. His girlfriend dies by the bad guys hand. There were a couple more I can't remember right now.
 
2012-11-13 01:07:04 PM  

Wyalt Derp: Bobby_and_The_Gorilla: Barbara Bach (Agent XXX) was the best Bond girl ever. Nope sorry, not debatable, no discussion, she was the best, LALALALALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Second best after Jane Seymour.



Hear, hear!

"Solitaire, my dear, I want you to listen to me very, very carefully....."
 
2012-11-13 01:11:16 PM  
Kind of amazed by the hate for The Living Daylights. To me, it plays way better now than most of the 80s Bond films, and would probably have more appeal to Craig fans than any of the others of that decade.

And how does A View to Kill rank so highly? At times, it feels like one of the Schumacher Batman films.
 
2012-11-13 01:15:51 PM  
Get ready to stone me, but I'm a Dalton fan.
 
2012-11-13 01:16:14 PM  

yves0010: DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.

Im in agreement with BillCo on this one and I am an obsessed Bond Fan. I think the list is:

1) Connery
2) Craig
3) Moore
4) Brosnan (Lost a lot of points for Die Another Day)
5) Lazenby
6) Dalton


My list is something like this:

1> Craig*
1.1> Connery*
2> Brosnan
3> Moore**
4> Dalton***
5> David Niven
6> Peter Sellars****
7> Lazenby*****

*
I rate Craig higher than Connery, but only by a hair; it is really not a fair comparison
since they approached the part from very different places, and with very different guiding principles.

** Mostly on the strength of his performance in FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, which redeemed
much in my eyes, for all his silliness.

*** I'd rate him higher if he'd had one more movie, or if either of his 2 movies were better
scripted; his performance itself was damn good, but you can only seperate the performance from the
script so much.

****I am of the heretical opinion that, had he been given the chance, Sellars would have
made an excellent James Bond.

***** Lazenby is a favourite of many so-called 'Bond Purists', but for every flash of
brilliance (brutal fight scenes, his emotion at Tracy's killing), he undercuts it by being very flippant,
to the point that I strongly feel that his take on the character strongly pre-figures Moore's over-the-top
silliness to a very great degree.
 
2012-11-13 01:21:37 PM  
So I know Thunderball and Never Say Never Again have the same plot but why isnt Never Say Never on the list?
 
2012-11-13 01:24:30 PM  

docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


I don't agree with this. The Bond when I was growing up was Moore and I would rank him last of the actors to portray Bond in the movies. To me, Craig has the best arc, going from 'blunt object' in the first film to 'Bond' in 'Skyfall'. Connery is second because he was the first Bond but a couple of his movies, including Diamond are Forever, are just terrible movies. Dalton/Lazenby are next. Dalton really set the stage for Craig as a less 'spy' type Bond and more action hero. License to Kill was the precursor to QoS as a revenge film. I thought Lazenby would have been better give more films, but his one film is still one of the best Bond films. Brosnan loses major points because he was in Die another Day, which really drags down his overall average.
 
2012-11-13 01:24:31 PM  

hundreddollarman: EMCGuy: Am I the only one that thinks Goldfinger is overrated? It's always near the top of the list of Bond films, but I never considered it that great. It also seems to be overplayed. If you flip through TV channels and there's a Bond film on, it's either Goldfinger or a Brosnan or later movie.

I'm with you. Bond looks like an incompetent agent through the whole film and if it were not for the obfuscating stupidity of Goldfinger to keep him alive, Goldfinger would have been able to carry out his plan. The last-second save with Pussy Galore informing the U.S. authorities about Operation Grand Slam felt more like deus ex machina than a logical character choice. Had a bad-ass theme tune though. And Pussy Galore was smokin'.


IIRC Pussy Galore did that in the book too.
 
2012-11-13 01:30:24 PM  
Skyfall was pretty awesome. I have to find someplace to buy Q's Scrabble mug.
 
2012-11-13 01:32:08 PM  

swaxhog: Screw all you Moonraker haters. I like it better than most Bond films and find it holds up really well compared to most with repeated viewings and age. Some of the Connery movies are hard to watch now with the fake screens, 60's acting style. Likewise the Dalton era was an awful time for movies as a whole. Late 80's bad scripts, bad directing, bad music, bad hair.  Just a terrible time to be alive.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-13 01:32:21 PM  

bluenote13: docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.

I don't agree with this. The Bond when I was growing up was Moore and I would rank him last of the actors to portray Bond in the movies. To me, Craig has the best arc, going from 'blunt object' in the first film to 'Bond' in 'Skyfall'. Connery is second because he was the first Bond but a couple of his movies, including Diamond are Forever, are just terrible movies. Dalton/Lazenby are next. Dalton really set the stage for Craig as a less 'spy' type Bond and more action hero. License to Kill was the precursor to QoS as a revenge film. I thought Lazenby would have been better give more films, but his one film is still one of the best Bond films. Brosnan loses major points because he was in Die another Day, which really drags down his overall average.


The only reason to watch the Lazenby movie was for the super hot Diana Rigg. Besides that, the whole movie was boring. The pacing was slow and the acting by Lazenby was so bad that it was on par with Talisa Soto's acting on License to Kill.
 
2012-11-13 01:33:49 PM  

groppet: So I know Thunderball and Never Say Never Again have the same plot but why isnt Never Say Never on the list?


'Never Say Never Again' never happened. Do you hear me? NEVER. HAPPENED.

Seriously, I think it was because it was not done by the same company so it is pretty much ignored as a Bond movie. Interesting bit of trivia I did not know. It was directed by the guy who directed Empire Strikes Back.
 
2012-11-13 01:35:38 PM  

Kirby Muxloe: hundreddollarman: EMCGuy: Am I the only one that thinks Goldfinger is overrated? It's always near the top of the list of Bond films, but I never considered it that great. It also seems to be overplayed. If you flip through TV channels and there's a Bond film on, it's either Goldfinger or a Brosnan or later movie.

I'm with you. Bond looks like an incompetent agent through the whole film and if it were not for the obfuscating stupidity of Goldfinger to keep him alive, Goldfinger would have been able to carry out his plan. The last-second save with Pussy Galore informing the U.S. authorities about Operation Grand Slam felt more like deus ex machina than a logical character choice. Had a bad-ass theme tune though. And Pussy Galore was smokin'.

IIRC Pussy Galore did that in the book too.


True. But the movie never makes any hint of Pussy Galore contemplating turning against Goldfinger until the end.
 
2012-11-13 01:36:02 PM  

bluenote13: groppet: So I know Thunderball and Never Say Never Again have the same plot but why isnt Never Say Never on the list?

'Never Say Never Again' never happened. Do you hear me? NEVER. HAPPENED.

Interesting bit of trivia I did not know. It was directed by the guy who directed Empire Strikes Back.


Yep. And that painful irony is just one more reason to loathe it.
 
2012-11-13 01:37:55 PM  

Klippoklondike: Quantum of Solace wasn't that bad.


PanicMan: Skyfall was pretty awesome. I have to find someplace to buy Q's Scrabble mug.


BronyMedic: Uh, okay. I'll say it.

SKYFALL made me need new pants as a life-long Bond movie fan. All of the mytharc callbacks, and half-answered lore teasers (Including the hint that the "people" are truely different people, despite all being the same name and designators) were awesome.

And the old Aston Marton with the ejector seat? Wonderful.


Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?
 
2012-11-13 01:37:55 PM  
"I thought Christmas only came once a year.' Is enough to make me hate Brosnan forever.
 
2012-11-13 01:38:38 PM  

groppet: So I know Thunderball and Never Say Never Again have the same plot but why isnt Never Say Never on the list?


It's not considered an official Bond film - Same with Casino Royale (the original version and tv show). It wasn't made by Eon although it was licensed all proper. However, MGM or whoever it is today bought all the rights to both Eon productions and NSN so they now reside under the same umbrella. Skyfall is the 23rd Bond film by Eon.
 
2012-11-13 01:40:10 PM  
Lifelong bond fan. Seen every movie opening weekend since the early 80s.

Best Bond = Connery. I like all the actors playing Bond, even Dalton, who's take on the character was very similar to Craigs. Least favorite is probably Brosnan, but that has more to do with the scripts of his last 3 movies.

Best Bond movie: Hmm, toss up. Top 5 would be For Your Eyes Only, Casino Royale, Thunderball, Goldfinger, and OHMSS. Skyfall might sneak in there, but holding judgement for some repeat viewings.

Worst Movie: Again, toss up. REALLY hated QoS. Licence to Kill and View to a kill were pretty bad too. The over the top cheese of Moonraker doesn't bother me so much, its a fun movie after a beer or two, and it has Jaws, so how bad can it really be?

Hottest bond girl: Very fond of Carole Boquet, Famke Janssen and Emma Peel.
 
2012-11-13 01:40:12 PM  
frontline.gamerlimit.com

Oh Goldeneye
 
2012-11-13 01:43:35 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?


Not necessary at all. It is an entirely different story and the only part that is continuous of the Craig arc is his relationship with M, which you got the gist of from CR.
 
2012-11-13 01:45:01 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.


You're one of those people that are just ignoring the fact that Quantum of Solace was a thing, aren't you? Craig's been as hit-or-miss as basically everyone else with the possible exception of Connery. Even Casino Royale was a Bourne movie, not really a Bond movie, so a lot of the audience was preemptively bored with that shiat before the opening credits even rolled.

Can't deny the newest one was pretty awesome, but the overall run of the movies doesn't touch Connery's, I'd put it about on par with Moore's. Not that they're outright bad, or anything, but still. OK, Quantum was outright bad, but you see what I'm saying.
 
2012-11-13 01:45:45 PM  
Moonraker ranked lower than Living Daylights, View to a Kill and any of the Brosnan flicks?

List sucks.

Discussed Bond actors with a coworker yesterday and he made an excellent point:
What pulls you through a Bond movie, the actor or the story?

Connery and Craig create pull, Pierce might be able to if the story didn't crush him so badly (exception Goldeneye), Moore not so much, Dalton was just poor casting (good actor, bad casting, very weak scripts).
 
2012-11-13 01:45:45 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?


Strawberry Fields forever!

Other than that one can safely ignore QoS.
 
2012-11-13 01:50:15 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo:
Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?


Skip it. It's BINO (Bond in Name Only). Loose plot, crappy villian, and much more of a revenge flick than actual spy flick.
 
2012-11-13 01:50:21 PM  

Kazaa: Kind of amazed by the hate for The Living Daylights. To me, it plays way better now than most of the 80s Bond films, and would probably have more appeal to Craig fans than any of the others of that decade.


I agree. It stripped away a lot of the camp of the Moore era, and Dalton's Bond in that film was closest to the Bond of the novels.
 
2012-11-13 01:52:04 PM  

Sybarite: Dalton is probably the only Bond I never have the urge to rewatch when I run across one of this films playing on TV. I find his portrayal so boring.


Am I the only one in the universe who freaking loves his Bond? I admit the drug plot in the second movie sucked, and Wayne Newton wtf, but the first one was great and Dalton was wicked.
 
2012-11-13 01:52:26 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.


I have, and I second his opinion. Connery as Bond was the perfect mix of sauve, self-assurance that comes from Pre-WWII upper class British breeding, and down and dirty man of violence who was willing to do whtever it takes to get a job done. Moore was too effette, and Dalton and Brosnan played it too much as "generic Schwazenegger-esque action hero". FWIW Craig is the first bond since Connery I think has it right, but Connery was raised in the same cultural milleu as Ian Flemming, and "got" some of the subtlties of the character instinctively that Craig has to consciously ape.
 
2012-11-13 01:58:15 PM  

Odd Bird: I prefer the question of who is the better spy friend, Mitchel or Bean?

 
2012-11-13 02:02:29 PM  

hundreddollarman: Kirby Muxloe: hundreddollarman: EMCGuy: Am I the only one that thinks Goldfinger is overrated? It's always near the top of the list of Bond films, but I never considered it that great. It also seems to be overplayed. If you flip through TV channels and there's a Bond film on, it's either Goldfinger or a Brosnan or later movie.

I'm with you. Bond looks like an incompetent agent through the whole film and if it were not for the obfuscating stupidity of Goldfinger to keep him alive, Goldfinger would have been able to carry out his plan. The last-second save with Pussy Galore informing the U.S. authorities about Operation Grand Slam felt more like deus ex machina than a logical character choice. Had a bad-ass theme tune though. And Pussy Galore was smokin'.

IIRC Pussy Galore did that in the book too.

True. But the movie never makes any hint of Pussy Galore contemplating turning against Goldfinger until the end.



Yeah, the whole movie was "Bond gets lucky and wins despite acting incompetently". Despite having some good moments and quotable lines, there are much better Bond movies out there.
 
2012-11-13 02:04:22 PM  

Mugato: docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.

I grew up with Roger Moore and, no.


Same. fark Roger Moore.

1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Dalton
4. Brosnan
5. Lazenby
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Roger Moore

/rates for performance, not for the quality of the actual movies
//Die Another Day is easily the worst Bond movie ever
 
2012-11-13 02:08:40 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: Holy shiat, Jane Seymour was smokin' in '73!


Yes, she was. The 70s had the best Bond chicks. In fact, let's simplify this mess and rank these by decade.

1. 60s
2. 70s
3. 2000-present
4. 90s
5. 80s. And that's without lumping in 1979's Moonraker, which fits the 80s style more.
 
2012-11-13 02:16:13 PM  

Wyalt Derp: Bobby_and_The_Gorilla: Barbara Bach (Agent XXX) was the best Bond girl ever. Nope sorry, not debatable, no discussion, she was the best, LALALALALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Second best after Jane Seymour.


Again sir, I say to you LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!
 
2012-11-13 02:18:53 PM  
www.joblo.com


Octopussy was so much better than Dr. No.
 
2012-11-13 02:29:45 PM  

Cndn Bacon: I like GoldenEye but mostly because I've always had a thing for Famke Janssen and she was pretty damn hot in that movie:

[images.hollywood.com image 400x300]


My son's ENT doctor has a receptionist who looks like her. Only hotter and with bigger tits. I can barely control myself when I take him there.
 
2012-11-13 02:33:05 PM  

kobrakai:
My son's ENT doctor has a receptionist who looks like her.


24.media.tumblr.com

she must be farking fugly
 
2012-11-13 02:37:02 PM  

Jim_Callahan: DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.

You're one of those people that are just ignoring the fact that Quantum of Solace was a thing, aren't you? Craig's been as hit-or-miss as basically everyone else with the possible exception of Connery. Even Casino Royale was a Bourne movie, not really a Bond movie, so a lot of the audience was preemptively bored with that shiat before the opening credits even rolled.

Can't deny the newest one was pretty awesome, but the overall run of the movies doesn't touch Connery's, I'd put it about on par with Moore's. Not that they're outright bad, or anything, but still. OK, Quantum was outright bad, but you see what I'm saying.


I haven't seen QoS, and by all accounts I'm not missing anything.

Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.
 
2012-11-13 02:38:00 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.


Most batters would be stoked to have a 2.000 batting average.
 
2012-11-13 02:38:37 PM  
My top 5:

Thunderball
Thunderball
Thunderball
Thunderball
Thunderball
 
2012-11-13 02:45:19 PM  
I just realized that this must be a ranking of the James Bond theme songs.
 
2012-11-13 02:47:29 PM  

Saiga410: Odd Bird: I prefer the question of who is the better spy friend, Mitchel or Bean?


Clarify please.
 
2012-11-13 02:51:22 PM  
List is a troll. You Only Live Twice is awesome.
 
2012-11-13 02:51:47 PM  

docmattic: The Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


Young'un here - born in 93. Sean Connery #1 with a bullet, with Craig a close second. I liked Dalton too. Lazenby was the only Bond I actively disliked.

Live and Let Die Is my favorite Bond movie, so I am the statistical outlier.

/But, that's like my opinion, Man.
 
2012-11-13 02:54:41 PM  
I love them all. They all have a place in the silly fun that is Bond.
 
2012-11-13 03:01:00 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Kazaa: Kind of amazed by the hate for The Living Daylights. To me, it plays way better now than most of the 80s Bond films, and would probably have more appeal to Craig fans than any of the others of that decade.

I agree. It stripped away a lot of the camp of the Moore era, and Dalton's Bond in that film was closest to the Bond of the novels.


And the final fight on the netting as it dangles from the back of the plane is the best action sequence in any Bond movie.

Anyone who likes Craig but hates Dalton is deluded.
 
2012-11-13 03:02:52 PM  

Suede head: List is a troll. You Only Live Twice is awesome.



My son loved it.  Of course he's 6 and loves Lego Ninjago too.  And went as a ninja for Halloween.
 
2012-11-13 03:03:01 PM  

thecpt: Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?

Not necessary at all. It is an entirely different story and the only part that is continuous of the Craig arc is his relationship with M, which you got the gist of from CR.


Wellon Dowd: Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?

Strawberry Fields forever!

Other than that one can safely ignore QoS.


scottydoesntknow: Debeo Summa Credo:
Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?

Skip it. It's BINO (Bond in Name Only). Loose plot, crappy villian, and much more of a revenge flick than actual spy flick.


Good enough for me. Thanks.
 
2012-11-13 03:05:09 PM  
Which film has the 30 minute (probably an exaggeration) grenade fight at the submarine port? That movie kicks tons of ass for that scene alone.
 
2012-11-13 03:06:29 PM  

I_C_Weener: Okay, aside from Madonna and a white North Korean and a sun laser thing and an invisible car (Wonder Woman's I think) what was so bad about Die Another Day?


So, other than that, Mrs, Lincoln, what did you think of the play?
 
2012-11-13 03:14:35 PM  

Magorn: DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.

I have, and I second his opinion. Connery as Bond was the perfect mix of sauve, self-assurance that comes from Pre-WWII upper class British breeding, and down and dirty man of violence who was willing to do whtever it takes to get a job done. Moore was too effette, and Dalton and Brosnan played it too much as "generic Schwazenegger-esque action hero". FWIW Craig is the first bond since Connery I think has it right, but Connery was raised in the same cultural milleu as Ian Flemming, and "got" some of the subtlties of the character instinctively that Craig has to consciously ape.


Um....

Connery was working class through and through; his father was a truck driver & factory worker, as was he (among
many other jobs he had before settling on acting). The closest thing that he & Fleming shared from their respective backgrounds was both served in the Royal Navy, though Connery was discharged on medical grounds
and was most assuredly not an officer. Fleming's initial impression of him, in fact, was that he was absolutely
wrong for the part, though this attitude mellowed considerably once he got to know Connery (and once Connery
had been tutored in the finer points of upper class English life, as related below).

Now, not discounting what Connery's native acting talent brought to the table, the character of his Bond was very
much molded by Terence Young, the director of DR. NO, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE and THUNDERBALL.
Young was the one who shared Fleming's upper class, cosmopolitan background, and he was the one who showed
Connery how to dress, talk, and act like an upper class person. Lois Maxwell said that Young WAS Bond, even
moreso than Connery.
 
2012-11-13 03:16:40 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.

Most batters would be stoked to have a 2.000 batting average.


I was an English & Psych major, and barely passed statistics.

Smartass.... ;-P
 
2012-11-13 03:19:48 PM  
Best 5:

1. Goldfinger
2. From Russia With Love
3. Dr. No
4. Casino Royale
5. Thunderball

Worst 5:

1. License To Kill
2. The World is Not Enough
3. Moonraker
4. The Man With the Golden Gun
5. Die Another Day
 
2012-11-13 03:20:27 PM  

Gunny Highway: Which film has the 30 minute (probably an exaggeration) grenade fight at the submarine port? That movie kicks tons of ass for that scene alone.


The spy who loved me has a 15 minute shootout/grenade fight inside a ship that scooped up 3 submarines and could technically be considered a port. Thats a well respected movie too, and is Roger Moore's best IMO. Plus a good theme song.
 
2012-11-13 03:46:36 PM  

The Man Who Laughs: I blame Moore for turning the Bond series into a mockery of itself that took 30 years to set right. I honestly think Dalton could have been a better Bond if it weren't for people being so used to Moore's slapstick nonsense. He wanted to make Bond serious again, and over-corrected.


you dont know how movies work, do you? Roger Moore is no more to blame for his era than I am to blame for my shiatty boss.
 
2012-11-13 03:57:44 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: The All-Powerful Atheismo: DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.

Most batters would be stoked to have a 2.000 batting average.

I was an English & Psych major, and barely passed statistics.

Smartass.... ;-P


More of a "baseball terminology" question
 
2012-11-13 04:03:02 PM  

Mugato: edip1976: Craig certainly returned some of the humor to the role

He did? I found the movie rather dour and humorless. Very... British. Not that that's bad, it just didn't have the levity that Bond movies usually have. Which is not a criticism, previous Bond movies could get goofy at times but I guess I just miss the fun that the Brosnan ones had.


That is to say, he did in Skyfall, there were a few dry one liners. CR and QoS, not so much. Well, except for the line about scratching his balls. That was ok by me though, considering we were re-entering Moore level silliness with Die Another Day.
 
2012-11-13 04:04:45 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.


Yeah, I'm not saying he's bad at it or anything, it just took him until the third movie to really figure out who Bond is and start actually playing the character and making it his own instead of looking slightly puzzled whenever asked to do one of the silly mannerisms.

As of Skyfall, Craig's Bond is meaner than most of the others, but he's actually found the groove and I'll keep watching the movies. The bit where he shows real emotion for the first time in three movies over the car was pretty much what convinced me he finally gets it. And he can finally do the one-liners without it seeming like he's reading them off a script. Some of this is his direction, I'm sure, but it helps to have the actor on board, too.
 
2012-11-13 04:23:37 PM  

Jim_Callahan: DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.

Yeah, I'm not saying he's bad at it or anything, it just took him until the third movie to really figure out who Bond is and start actually playing the character and making it his own instead of looking slightly puzzled whenever asked to do one of the silly mannerisms.

As of Skyfall, Craig's Bond is meaner than most of the others, but he's actually found the groove and I'll keep watching the movies. The bit where he shows real emotion for the first time in three movies over the car was pretty much what convinced me he finally gets it. And he can finally do the one-liners without it seeming like he's reading them off a script. Some of this is his direction, I'm sure, but it helps to have the actor on board, too.


Well, if you think about it, CR featured a Bond that was completely green to the Double-Oh game. M scolds him on numerous occasions about what it means. QoS, while yes is a shiatty movie, also picks up exactly where CR left off, so Bond is the same green agent. One assumes that many years of fictional adventures have happened between QoS and Skyfall, and in that time Craig's Bond has become the Bond we're familiar with. In essence, this is the first movie with Craig where he can put his spin on the classic bits as a fully realized Bond.

I enjoyed it immensely.

For the record, I also enjoyed Dalton's take on the role. His scripts were not the strongest though.
 
2012-11-13 04:26:39 PM  

Falco09: BronyMedic: Uh, okay. I'll say it.

SKYFALL made me need new pants as a life-long Bond movie fan. All of the mytharc callbacks, and half-answered lore teasers (Including the hint that the "people" are truely different people, despite all being the same name and designators) were awesome.

And the old Aston Marton with the ejector seat? Wonderful.

It made absolutely zero sense for this car to be in the movie. There's only one James Bond; Sean Connery's Bond doesn't exist in the Daniel Craig Bond universe. Are we to believe that this Aston Martin was just some MI6 relic? Bond won a DB5 in Casino Royale. It should have been this car in the movie (sans ejector seat and machine guns) that Bond had simply been keeping in storage.

I was actually really disappointed with Skyfall. Clunky dialogue, CGI komodo dragons, and the silly Home Alone ending kind of ruined it for me.

/Casino Royale is still my favorite
//Dr. No and Goldeneye are close seconds


I justified the car to myself by assuming that Q-branch modded the car for him after he acquired it long before he ever met Q himself (they only met now because the smaller quarters aforded after the M16 incident) although the minimalist nature of the gadgets proffered by nu-Q suggests such is highly unlikely.

Still, this complaint aside, I thought this was a much stronger bond film than anything in the last 15 years, Casino Royale excluded.
 
2012-11-13 04:37:08 PM  

Falco09:
If I'm not mistaken, Goldeneye was the name of Fleming's Jamaican estate. It was a way for the writers to pay homage to the author after they ran out of actual Bond titles.


It was also the name of a WW2 operation designed by Fleming. In some ways, it's the most poignant of the movie names.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Goldeneye
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldeneye_%28estate%29
 
2012-11-13 04:39:10 PM  

Jim_Callahan: The bit where he shows real emotion for the first time in three movies over the car was pretty much what convinced me he finally gets it.



I think he showed some pretty real emotion during Vesper's death scene in CR.
 
2012-11-13 04:44:57 PM  
Just saw it. Pretty good. Very character- and performance-driven. Takes too long to get to Friendo, but he's definitely one of the best Bond villains, even if the movie underserves him. The Dark Knight parallels are distracting. Great cinematography. Music was overwhelming, took away from the action scenes.
 
2012-11-13 04:48:08 PM  

Jim_Callahan: DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.

Yeah, I'm not saying he's bad at it or anything, it just took him until the third movie to really figure out who Bond is and start actually playing the character and making it his own instead of looking slightly puzzled whenever asked to do one of the silly mannerisms.

As of Skyfall, Craig's Bond is meaner than most of the others, but he's actually found the groove and I'll keep watching the movies. The bit where he shows real emotion for the first time in three movies over the car was pretty much what convinced me he finally gets it. And he can finally do the one-liners without it seeming like he's reading them off a script. Some of this is his direction, I'm sure, but it helps to have the actor on board, too.


The little adjustment of his cufflink when he jumps into the train (and before anyone whines about a SPOILER, this
is in every trailer & commercial) showed me he finally 'got' Bond. Sort of like how Brosnan popping his head up
out of the tank hatch and adjusting his tie in GOLDENEYE was his signal that he had the part well in hand.
 
2012-11-13 04:54:57 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: Just saw it. Pretty good. Very character- and performance-driven. Takes too long to get to Friendo, but he's definitely one of the best Bond villains, even if the movie underserves him. The Dark Knight parallels are distracting. Great cinematography. Music was overwhelming, took away from the action scenes.


That's one statement I just don't get.

If you think the music is overwhelming in Skyfall, just check out all the ones scored by John Barry.
 
2012-11-13 05:02:53 PM  

Rhypskallion: Falco09:
If I'm not mistaken, Goldeneye was the name of Fleming's Jamaican estate. It was a way for the writers to pay homage to the author after they ran out of actual Bond titles.

It was also the name of a WW2 operation designed by Fleming. In some ways, it's the most poignant of the movie names.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Goldeneye
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldeneye_%28estate%29


I had no idea, that's really cool. Thanks for that.
 
2012-11-13 05:11:48 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?


Skip it. Not only is it not really a good Bond movie, it's just not a great movie in general. It was hit hard by the writer's strike and you can tell. Read a summary and skip it.

Jim_Callahan: The bit where he shows real emotion for the first time in three movies over the car was pretty much what convinced me he finally gets it


Come on man, did you even watch the end of CR? He was genuinely beat up over Vesper.
 
2012-11-13 05:24:22 PM  
Connory > Brosnam > Dalton > Moore = Craig
 
2012-11-13 05:24:25 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?

Skip it. Not only is it not really a good Bond movie, it's just not a great movie in general. It was hit hard by the writer's strike and you can tell.


Plus bad camera work and shiatty editing on top of that. The whole thing is a complete mess.
 
2012-11-13 05:26:32 PM  
To say say it in two words - Skyfall sucked. It was simply a long drawn out move designed to say good-by to two of the main characters with some added nostalgia. The action scenes were simply makeovers from other movies, not all necessarily Bond movies. There were also a lot of slips and loose ends. Unless they get a new Bond, and some new creative writers, it is time for Bond to end before it turns into an absolute disaster. I would rate Skyfall at a D. Yesterday I saw three movies: Skyfall; Cloud Atlas; Flight. Flight was the best of all of these.
 
2012-11-13 05:41:38 PM  

jimw: To say say it in two words - Skyfall sucked. It was simply a long drawn out move designed to say good-by to two of the main characters with some added nostalgia. The action scenes were simply makeovers from other movies, not all necessarily Bond movies. There were also a lot of slips and loose ends. Unless they get a new Bond, and some new creative writers, it is time for Bond to end before it turns into an absolute disaster. I would rate Skyfall at a D. Yesterday I saw three movies: Skyfall; Cloud Atlas; Flight. Flight was the best of all of these.


So you liked that movie where Denzel Washington played Denzel Washington. Got it. Say no more.
 
2012-11-13 05:46:33 PM  

jimw: It was simply a long drawn out move designed to say good-by to two of the main characters with some added nostalgia. The action scenes were simply makeovers from other movies, not all necessarily Bond movies. There were also a lot of slips and loose ends. Unless they get a new Bond, and some new creative writers, it is time for Bond to end before it turns into an absolute disaster.


It was a celebration of 50 years of Bond. I thought it achieved that very well. Whats the other main character? Q? What loose ends? Absolute disasters in this franchise happen every so often. I don't get you is what I'm getting at.

Haven't seen flight yet. It might be better so I'm not going to argue that.
 
2012-11-13 05:48:23 PM  
For comparison:

Rotten Tomatoes ranking of James Bond films:

Dr No - 98
From Russia with Love - 97
Goldfinger - 96
Casino Royale - 94
Thunderball - 91
On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 81
Goldeneye - 80
The Spy Who Loved Me - 78
For Your Eyes Only - 74
Living Daylights - 73
License to Kill - 71
You Only Live Twice - 70
Diamonds Are Forever - 67
Moonraker - 64
Live and Let Die - 63
Quantum of Solace - 63
Die Another Day - 59
Tomorrow Never Dies - 56
The Man with the Golden Gun - 52
The World Is Not Enough - 51
Octopussy - 47
A View to a Kill - 39
 
2012-11-13 05:51:56 PM  

Lego_Addict: Goldeneye will always be my #1 because of the N64 game. Nick Nack and Proximity Mines FTW!


Frequently heard at my place "Buddy, I hear you placing the mines, and now you're not using your controller. And if you screen check me one more time, you're getting punched!"
 
2012-11-13 05:54:10 PM  

jimw: To say say it in two words - Skyfall sucked. It was simply a long drawn out move designed to say good-by to two of the main characters with some added nostalgia.


Maybe I'm missing something, but who was the 2nd?

This didn't suck. It did take a weird turn with the Bond homestead there at the end, and it seemed they owed Albert Finney a favor by just shoe-horning him in there. But I thought it was a good overall story. It was how about the old-fashioned way of doing things has its advantages over the sleek, newer (and younger) methods to espionage.

And I've not seen all of them, but is this the first one where the villain more or less succeeded in his goals? We saw that he wanted M to shoot them both through the head with the same bullet, so he had no desire to save his own life, unless it was just a taunt. I say he more or less succeeded because M succumbed to her wound.
 
2012-11-13 05:56:03 PM  
they got the top one correct.

no question.
 
2012-11-13 06:00:13 PM  

mjohnson71: Snatch Bandergrip: Music was overwhelming, took away from the action scenes.

That's one statement I just don't get.

If you think the music is overwhelming in Skyfall, just check out all the ones scored by John Barry.


Not denying that; just that I wanted to hear the roar of engines, the crack of gunfire, the smashing of fists. I didn't hear any of it under the thunderous score of the usually reliable Thomas Newman, even though it sounded exactly like David Arnold.

I really liked Skyfall, but I'd say it's still struggling to fight off the Bourne influence. Bond is glamour, wacky stunts, old-school charm, romance. Bourne is a set of pragmatic techno-thrillers, heavy on visceral action, unconcerned with the flavor of its exotic locales, action flicks for the post-9/11 crowd. I love both, but I want them to be different. Separate but equal, if you will.

/Cares way too much
 
2012-11-13 06:01:12 PM  
I'm sorry, there's no way in hell "A View to a Kill" is better than any of the Connery movies.
 
2012-11-13 06:02:26 PM  

Falco09: BronyMedic:

It made absolutely zero sense for this car to be in the movie. There's only one James Bond; Sean Connery's Bond doesn't exist in the Daniel Craig Bond universe. Are we to believe that this Aston Martin was just some MI6 relic? Bond won a DB5 in Casino Royale. It should have been this car in the movie (sans ejector seat and machine guns) that Bond had simply been keeping in storage.


I've always liked the idea that James Bond is just a codename for a series of top agents who have filled the role over the years. Connery was one, Moore was one and Craig is the latest. I think the fact that they had one of the old Bond's cars is a pretty strong hint that this is how the current filmmakers view the Bond role. Now this could be different from other filmmakers interpretations, or Flemming's idea, but whoever takes the reigns is allowed to make it their own interpretation.

Personally that version makes the most sense to me.
 
2012-11-13 06:04:24 PM  

fusillade762: For comparison:

Rotten Tomatoes ranking of James Bond films:

Dr No - 98
From Russia with Love - 97
Goldfinger - 96
Casino Royale - 94
Thunderball - 91
Skyfall - 91
On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 81
Goldeneye - 80
The Spy Who Loved Me - 78
For Your Eyes Only - 74
Living Daylights - 73
License to Kill - 71
You Only Live Twice - 70
Diamonds Are Forever - 67
Moonraker - 64
Live and Let Die - 63
Quantum of Solace - 63
Die Another Day - 59
Tomorrow Never Dies - 56
The Man with the Golden Gun - 52
The World Is Not Enough - 51
Octopussy - 47
A View to a Kill - 39


FTFY
 
2012-11-13 06:08:52 PM  

dehehn: Falco09: BronyMedic:

It made absolutely zero sense for this car to be in the movie. There's only one James Bond; Sean Connery's Bond doesn't exist in the Daniel Craig Bond universe. Are we to believe that this Aston Martin was just some MI6 relic? Bond won a DB5 in Casino Royale. It should have been this car in the movie (sans ejector seat and machine guns) that Bond had simply been keeping in storage.


I've always liked the idea that James Bond is just a codename for a series of top agents who have filled the role over the years. Connery was one, Moore was one and Craig is the latest. I think the fact that they had one of the old Bond's cars is a pretty strong hint that this is how the current filmmakers view the Bond role. Now this could be different from other filmmakers interpretations, or Flemming's idea, but whoever takes the reigns is allowed to make it their own interpretation.

Personally that version makes the most sense to me.


I've heard that theory as well, but that doesn't make sense either given the context of the film. We see Bond's parents' gravestones with their family name on them.
 
2012-11-13 06:22:26 PM  

Neums: jimw: To say say it in two words - Skyfall sucked. It was simply a long drawn out move designed to say good-by to two of the main characters with some added nostalgia.

Maybe I'm missing something, but who was the 2nd?

This didn't suck. It did take a weird turn with the Bond homestead there at the end, and it seemed they owed Albert Finney a favor by just shoe-horning him in there. But I thought it was a good overall story. It was how about the old-fashioned way of doing things has its advantages over the sleek, newer (and younger) methods to espionage.

And I've not seen all of them, but is this the first one where the villain more or less succeeded in his goals? We saw that he wanted M to shoot them both through the head with the same bullet, so he had no desire to save his own life, unless it was just a taunt. I say he more or less succeeded because M succumbed to her wound.


At the same time he died before he got what he wanted. But I can't think of any villain who fully succeeded
 
2012-11-13 06:24:13 PM  

dehehn: fusillade762: For comparison:

Rotten Tomatoes ranking of James Bond films:

Dr No - 98
From Russia with Love - 97
Goldfinger - 96
Casino Royale - 94
Thunderball - 91
Skyfall - 91
On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 81
Goldeneye - 80
The Spy Who Loved Me - 78
For Your Eyes Only - 74
Living Daylights - 73
License to Kill - 71
You Only Live Twice - 70
Diamonds Are Forever - 67
Moonraker - 64
Live and Let Die - 63
Quantum of Solace - 63
Die Another Day - 59
Tomorrow Never Dies - 56
The Man with the Golden Gun - 52
The World Is Not Enough - 51
Octopussy - 47
A View to a Kill - 39

FTFY


Ah, thanks. That was an old list I threw together in chronological order. In the midst of re-ordering it by rank I totally forgot to put Skyfall in there.
 
2012-11-13 06:40:00 PM  

thecpt: At the same time he died before he got what he wanted. But I can't think of any villain who fully succeeded


Still, he ultimately succeeded in his goal of killing M, even if he died before he realized it. I don't think killing James was necessarily something he strove for; I think he was trying to make James see the error of his ways (i.e. "Think on your sins.") and show him that blind faith would get you nowhere.
 
2012-11-13 06:49:58 PM  

Magorn: DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.

I have, and I second his opinion. Connery as Bond was the perfect mix of sauve, self-assurance that comes from Pre-WWII upper class British breeding, and down and dirty man of violence who was willing to do whtever it takes to get a job done. Moore was too effette, and Dalton and Brosnan played it too much as "generic Schwazenegger-esque action hero". FWIW Craig is the first bond since Connery I think has it right, but Connery was raised in the same cultural milleu as Ian Flemming, and "got" some of the subtlties of the character instinctively that Craig has to consciously ape.


Craig's Bond is the first openly-working-class version of the character (Vesper lampshades this when they meet) so he doesn't have to ape anything. After his parents died he left home to stick it out rather than sit and rot on their money.
 
2012-11-13 06:50:36 PM  

Neums: thecpt: At the same time he died before he got what he wanted. But I can't think of any villain who fully succeeded

Still, he ultimately succeeded in his goal of killing M, even if he died before he realized it. I don't think killing James was necessarily something he strove for; I think he was trying to make James see the error of his ways (i.e. "Think on your sins.") and show him that blind faith would get you nowhere.


I liked how he constantly referred to m as mom including when talking with bond. I really think his character believed they were figurative siblings and that he pitied bond because he thought bond would die if he stayed under m's control. So I do believe in your theory, but his original plan seemed to be living post courtroom shoot out. I think his primary goal was kill m and the think on your sins was only meant for m
 
2012-11-13 06:52:49 PM  

fusillade762: For comparison:

Rotten Tomatoes ranking of James Bond films:

Die Another Day - 59
Tomorrow Never Dies - 56
The World Is Not Enough - 51


24-CARAT HORSEPISS. Both those last scores are harsh.
 
2012-11-13 06:53:51 PM  

thecpt: Neums: thecpt: At the same time he died before he got what he wanted. But I can't think of any villain who fully succeeded

Still, he ultimately succeeded in his goal of killing M, even if he died before he realized it. I don't think killing James was necessarily something he strove for; I think he was trying to make James see the error of his ways (i.e. "Think on your sins.") and show him that blind faith would get you nowhere.

I liked how he constantly referred to m as mom including when talking with bond. I really think his character believed they were figurative siblings and that he pitied bond because he thought bond would die if he stayed under m's control. So I do believe in your theory, but his original plan seemed to be living post courtroom shoot out. I think his primary goal was kill m and the think on your sins was only meant for m


Of course in reality-land, the word "ma'am" is often pronounced "mum" or "mom" in England.
 
2012-11-13 07:10:09 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: thecpt: Neums: thecpt: At the same time he died before he got what he wanted. But I can't think of any villain who fully succeeded

Still, he ultimately succeeded in his goal of killing M, even if he died before he realized it. I don't think killing James was necessarily something he strove for; I think he was trying to make James see the error of his ways (i.e. "Think on your sins.") and show him that blind faith would get you nowhere.

I liked how he constantly referred to m as mom including when talking with bond. I really think his character believed they were figurative siblings and that he pitied bond because he thought bond would die if he stayed under m's control. So I do believe in your theory, but his original plan seemed to be living post courtroom shoot out. I think his primary goal was kill m and the think on your sins was only meant for m

Of course in reality-land, the word "ma'am" is often pronounced "mum" or "mom" in England.


Mommy was very bad. He was actually saying mom and was speaking with a Spanish accent. It was quite apparent
 
2012-11-13 07:15:37 PM  
Spoilers (highlight!)

Here's the real question - what was M's name? The groundsman called her 'Emma' as he misheard Bond stating her name was M, and through some of Silva's garbled speech 'Mama' sounded like 'Marla'. Weird.
 
2012-11-13 08:17:18 PM  
LET THE SKY FALL!
APPLE CRUMBLE!
 
2012-11-13 08:38:28 PM  

Cndn Bacon: I like GoldenEye but mostly because I've always had a thing for Famke Janssen and she was pretty damn hot in that movie:

[images.hollywood.com image 400x300]



I was probably 12 when i first saw GoldenEye. Famke Janssen hate-tonguing Pierce Brosnan's face in that scene gave me one of my earliest why-boners.
 
2012-11-13 08:46:34 PM  
Haven't seen Skyfall yet. I'm weird in that my favorite Bond movie (even though I know it's terrible) is A View To A Kill, simply because it was the first one I saw. It also has the best song and WALKEN.

Connery
Brosnan
Moore
Craig
Dalton
Lazenby

is my Bond rating. Though I haven't seen a Dalton movie in forever. Craig is too hard edged to be Bond for me, plus Quantum of Solace wasn't very good. Best movie for each Bond in my opinion:

From Russia With Love
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
The Spy Who Loved Me
The Living Daylights
Goldeneye
Casino Royale

Lois Maxwell is the best Moneypenny, Dame Judi the best M. Desmond Llewellyn is the ONLY 'Q'
 
2012-11-13 08:59:42 PM  
Armond White farking LOVES Skyfall. Says its Oscar territory

He's neutral on Quantum of Solace. Seems like he was interested but not entertained.

and he did a nice piece Bond themes too. I wish there were more like him, I am sick of moronic plebs "reviewing" and shilleriffic pay-per-quote boilerplate bullshiat.
 
2012-11-13 09:05:40 PM  
The Bond list goes Connerry > Craig > Dalton > Brosnan > Lazenby > Nelson > Moore

And yes, Never Say Never Again is a Bond film, and the superior adaptation of Thunderball (especially an upgrade at villain).
 
2012-11-13 09:32:29 PM  
Moonraker, Octopussy, AVTAK... Ugg. Moore was way too old for the part by the end.

And even FYOE sucks for the most part. The beginning is simply atrocious.
 
2012-11-13 09:59:07 PM  

JosephFinn: The Bond list goes Connerry > Craig > Dalton > Brosnan > Lazenby > Nelson > Moore

And yes, Never Say Never Again is a Bond film, and the superior adaptation of Thunderball (especially an upgrade at villain).


media.comicvine.com

Dalton was the worst Bond. For some reason, looking at him, I wish Alan Rickman had been chosen to be 80s Bond.
 
2012-11-13 10:15:04 PM  
Roger Moore's James Bond was what the 70's and 80's demanded in action films, and were the very popular then. Bond movies are made from their era.
 
2012-11-13 10:23:25 PM  

sephjnr: fusillade762: For comparison:

Rotten Tomatoes ranking of James Bond films:

Die Another Day - 59
Tomorrow Never Dies - 56
The World Is Not Enough - 51


24-CARAT HORSEPISS. Both those last scores are harsh.



I will say that TMS and TWINE are both light years ahead of DAD....but all three were pretty bad.

/Ok, Tomorrow Never Dies is ok
//World is only tolerable because I have an extreme hard-on for Sophie Marceau
//Die Another can just, die. Seriously
 
2012-11-13 10:34:33 PM  

expobill: Roger Moore's James Bond was what the 70's and 80's demanded in action films, and were the very popular then. Bond movies are made from their era.


Roger Moore = Bill Shatner.

Is this what people expected in the 70s?

A perfect, awesome stunt ruined by a SLIDE WHISTLE. And why the fat southern sheriff hanging out with Bond? Screw that guy.
I think Austin Powers pretty much was making fun of the Moore era.

Also, A View to a Kill is a terrible movie. How can you waste Walken? And Grace Jones as a sex symbol is the shame the 80s must carry. Octopussy? Crazy title, crummy movie.
 
2012-11-13 10:35:22 PM  
Goldeneye is my favorite
 
2012-11-13 10:39:17 PM  

docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


I would have said that, till I saw Craig. I have to say he's closer to the books than Connery ever was.

I think my panties are still wet after seeing "Skyfall."
 
2012-11-13 10:39:41 PM  
I'm ok with GF at #1, but #2 and 3 are way too high. Nice to see the current offering rated fairly highly.
 
2012-11-13 10:39:52 PM  

thecpt: jimw: It was simply a long drawn out move designed to say good-by to two of the main characters with some added nostalgia.

Whats the other main character?.


I believe he was indirectly referring to this:

www.rmauctions.com

/If I ever com across an obscene amount of wasteful money, this car will be mine
 
2012-11-13 10:47:17 PM  
I don't like trying to order *all* of the movies, mostly because the actors all differently. The only things I will say are:

1. Connery, being the originator, ALWAYS gets a pass.
2. Lazenby has some issues, but he wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. (Example: the non-reaction to getting found out by Blofeld just seems like something he wouldn't normally do.)
3. Moore, for all intents and purposes, had some really good and really horrid parts to most of his movies. The space scene of Moonraker trumps all for stupidity and pandering to what's popular at the time, though, and the AFB circus scene where James Bond dresses up as a clown will always be the absolute nadir. The flip side to that is that he went up against Lee and Walken, two of the greatest Bond villains ever, and his movies are still mostly based off of original Fleming material.
4. Dalton... again with the bipolar. The Living Daylights wasn't bad until he (a) joins the Mujahideen, and (b) kills Joe Don Baker in his war room. And License to Kill was too much of a James Bond does Miami Vice movie (plus, FFS, Wayne Newton?!).
5. Brosnan was good, probably my second favorite, but on most days I'll say that his movies went downhill until the crash landing into complete implausibility that was Die Another Day. (The "most days" part is that I go back & forth between the two middle movies, mostly dependent on how much I can stomach Paris Carver at any given time.)
6. Craig was incredible in Casino Royale, but as stated a million places in a million ways, Quantum sucked extreme donkey balls. I've yet to see Skyfall so I can't comment on that, but if it's as good as advertised, then he's into a tie with Pierce for my favorite Bond not named Sean Connery.

That's where I stand on all of that.
 
2012-11-13 10:51:11 PM  
Come on, QoS was AWESOME. It was 2 hours of pure shakey-cam with no plot!
 
2012-11-13 10:51:23 PM  
I gotta say this. Even if/when I disagree vehemently, I love these Bond threads.
 
2012-11-13 10:52:21 PM  

Shazam999: Come on, QoS was AWESOME. It was 2 hours of pure shakey-cam with no plot!


Please stop. You're making me nauseous.
 
2012-11-13 10:52:47 PM  

fatalvenom: //World is only tolerable because I have an extreme hard-on for Sophie Marceau


What was so bad about that film? Okay, Denise Richards as a nuclear weapons specialist. That wasn't the first movie to have a hot girl in unlikely fields of expertise. And I maintain it had the best song. They should have put Shirley Manson in the opening number.
 
2012-11-13 10:54:36 PM  

Apos: Shazam999: Come on, QoS was AWESOME. It was 2 hours of pure shakey-cam with no plot!

Please stop. You're making me nauseous.


QoS makes everyone nauseous!
 
2012-11-13 10:55:53 PM  

expobill: Roger Moore's James Bond was what the 70's and 80's demanded in action films, and were the very popular then. Bond movies are made from their era.


I dunno, I was a youngin' back then, and I asked my dad about those later Moore Bond films.

He frowned, shook his head and said "they are awful".
 
2012-11-13 10:56:52 PM  

Fano: JosephFinn: The Bond list goes Connerry > Craig > Dalton > Brosnan > Lazenby > Nelson > Moore

And yes, Never Say Never Again is a Bond film, and the superior adaptation of Thunderball (especially an upgrade at villain).

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Dalton was the worst Bond. For some reason, looking at him, I wish Alan Rickman had been chosen to be 80s Bond.


You realize that Never Say Never was a Connery flick, not a Dalton one, right?
 
2012-11-13 10:59:26 PM  

docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


Your basically right. That said, I like to think I've overcome that (I originally liked Moore the best - yes, Moore - that's who I grew up with), and I find that all the actors who played Bond add their own unique touches and value. Looking back more objectively, I like them all for different reasons and don't really have a "favorite" any more. Each one brings a different style to the character, and the variety makes the long string of movies more interesting.
 
2012-11-13 11:00:22 PM  

karmachameleon: docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.

You're basically right. That said, I like to think I've overcome that (I originally liked Moore the best - yes, Moore - that's who I grew up with), and I find that all the actors who played Bond add their own unique touches and value. Looking back more objectively, I like them all for different reasons and don't really have a "favorite" any more. Each one brings a different style to the character, and the variety makes the long string of movies more interesting.


FTFM.
 
2012-11-13 11:01:05 PM  

Shazam999: Apos: Shazam999: Come on, QoS was AWESOME. It was 2 hours of pure shakey-cam with no plot!

Please stop. You're making me nauseous.

QoS makes everyone nauseous!


It certainly does.
 
2012-11-13 11:04:33 PM  

docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


There's a quantum of truth there. I've always liked Moore.

//Like 'em all, except for Lazenby.
 
2012-11-13 11:24:41 PM  

omnimancer28: Fano: JosephFinn: The Bond list goes Connerry > Craig > Dalton > Brosnan > Lazenby > Nelson > Moore

And yes, Never Say Never Again is a Bond film, and the superior adaptation of Thunderball (especially an upgrade at villain).

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Dalton was the worst Bond. For some reason, looking at him, I wish Alan Rickman had been chosen to be 80s Bond.

You realize that Never Say Never was a Connery flick, not a Dalton one, right?


Why would I have thought otherwise? Never Say Never may be bad... but Sean did enough to create the Bond legacy. Dalton is just crummy, and his scripts were crummy too.
 
2012-11-13 11:37:31 PM  
Combination no sleep and the giant picture of Dalton. Didn't realize you were just responding to the best to worst bond comment. Many apologies. I will now go watch Dalton's Oscar winning performance in Flash Gordon as penance for my actions.
 
2012-11-13 11:37:50 PM  

Fano: omnimancer28: Fano: JosephFinn: The Bond list goes Connerry > Craig > Dalton > Brosnan > Lazenby > Nelson > Moore

And yes, Never Say Never Again is a Bond film, and the superior adaptation of Thunderball (especially an upgrade at villain).

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Dalton was the worst Bond. For some reason, looking at him, I wish Alan Rickman had been chosen to be 80s Bond.

You realize that Never Say Never was a Connery flick, not a Dalton one, right?

Why would I have thought otherwise? Never Say Never may be bad... but Sean did enough to create the Bond legacy. Dalton is just crummy, and his scripts were crummy too.


License To Kill was a significant improvement over The Living Daylights merely by having better Bond girls, a leaner script and a formidable villain. Davi was outstanding.
 
2012-11-13 11:41:52 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: thecpt: Neums: thecpt: At the same time he died before he got what he wanted. But I can't think of any villain who fully succeeded

Still, he ultimately succeeded in his goal of killing M, even if he died before he realized it. I don't think killing James was necessarily something he strove for; I think he was trying to make James see the error of his ways (i.e. "Think on your sins.") and show him that blind faith would get you nowhere.

I liked how he constantly referred to m as mom including when talking with bond. I really think his character believed they were figurative siblings and that he pitied bond because he thought bond would die if he stayed under m's control. So I do believe in your theory, but his original plan seemed to be living post courtroom shoot out. I think his primary goal was kill m and the think on your sins was only meant for m

Of course in reality-land, the word "ma'am" is often pronounced "mum" or "mom" in England.


Silva actually referred to M as "Mommy" though.
 
2012-11-13 11:53:58 PM  
Well, they got Quantum near the bottom. It should have been #23, though. And 24. And 25.
 
2012-11-14 12:26:09 AM  

Neums:
Silva actually referred to M as "Mommy" though.


Well that's different. But he did call her "ma'am" just like Bond does.
 
2012-11-14 12:39:40 AM  
Loved Goldeneye. It was a good movie for a different time. Craig's Bond is as good as any other.
 
2012-11-14 01:00:13 AM  

Gyrfalcon: docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.

I would have said that, till I saw Craig. I have to say he's closer to the books than Connery ever was.

I think my panties are still wet after seeing "Skyfall."


You're in to dudes with gigantic jug ears?
 
2012-11-14 01:09:54 AM  
Dalton's best performance was in The Rocketeer.
 
2012-11-14 01:44:46 AM  

chewielouie: Dalton's best performance was in The Rocketeer.


Hot Fuzz
 
2012-11-14 02:51:21 AM  
The Man with the Golden Gun is the best Bond movie, followed closely by Goldeneye and Live and Let Die.

Also, Roger Moore was the best Bond because he most closely resembles Bond from the novels. I have no idea why people keep saying Connery was the best Bond; he never played Bond, he only played Connery in a tux.

/Leaving the thread now, so replying is completely pointless
 
2012-11-14 05:23:45 AM  
Top Ten Bond Themes:

10. Goldeneye
9. Skyfall
8. Thunderball
7. You Only Live Twice
6. The World is Not Enough
5. For Your Eyes Only
4. The Spy Who Loved Me, "Nobody Does It Better."
3. Live and Let Die
2. Goldfinger
1. Diamonds are Forever.
 
2012-11-14 07:21:40 AM  

Bobby_and_The_Gorilla: Barbara Bach (Agent XXX) was the best Bond girl ever. Nope sorry, not debatable, no discussion, she was the best, LALALALALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!


The second reason you should hate Ringo Starr.
 
2012-11-14 07:26:09 AM  
One minor thing about Brosnan though: Bond's supposed to be fluent in most common languages yet he doesn't bother / can't do accents. Even Connery's daft Dutch accent in DAF had some humour to it.
 
2012-11-14 07:30:36 AM  

sephjnr: One minor thing about Brosnan though: Bond's supposed to be fluent in most common languages yet he doesn't bother / can't do accents


He did Russian.
 
2012-11-14 07:37:55 AM  

Falco09: It made absolutely zero sense for this car to be in the movie. There's only one James Bond; Sean Connery's Bond doesn't exist in the Daniel Craig Bond universe.


Think long and hard about it. Notice how at the end of the movie, someone is called M despite another M dying.

Fridge Logic.

It's highly inferred that 007, and Commander James Bond, are not one person, but multiple people.
 
2012-11-14 08:08:58 AM  

Mugato: sephjnr: One minor thing about Brosnan though: Bond's supposed to be fluent in most common languages yet he doesn't bother / can't do accents

He did Russian.


My mistake. ONE Language.
 
2012-11-14 08:25:32 AM  

BronyMedic: Falco09: It made absolutely zero sense for this car to be in the movie. There's only one James Bond; Sean Connery's Bond doesn't exist in the Daniel Craig Bond universe.

Think long and hard about it. Notice how at the end of the movie, someone is called M despite another M dying.

Fridge Logic.


History, actually: the head of Britain's Secret Intelligence Service is always codenamed 'C', a tradition
started by the first head of the SIS George Mansfield Smith-Cumming, who always signed his memos
'C'. Subsequent directors have continued this practice to help obscure their identities down to the
present day.

Fleming just changed the letter used as the designator.

It's highly inferred that 007, and Commander James Bond, are not one person, but multiple people.

If one is high, yes.
 
2012-11-14 08:37:28 AM  
No way that Live and Let Die, A View to a Kill, License to Kill, or Octopussy deserve relatively high ratings, and Quantum of Solace doesn't deserve to be lower than A Denise Richards pic.

/work with an intel analyst who looks exactly like Miriam D'Abo in Living Daylights
//and actually Slovakian
 
2012-11-14 08:41:54 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: yves0010: DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.

Im in agreement with BillCo on this one and I am an obsessed Bond Fan. I think the list is:

1) Connery
2) Craig
3) Moore
4) Brosnan (Lost a lot of points for Die Another Day)
5) Lazenby
6) Dalton

My list is something like this:

1> Craig*
1.1> Connery*
2> Brosnan
3> Moore**
4> Dalton***
5> David Niven
6> Peter Sellars****
7> Lazenby*****

* I rate Craig higher than Connery, but only by a hair; it is really not a fair comparison
since they approached the part from very different places, and with very different guiding principles.

** Mostly on the strength of his performance in FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, which redeemed
much in my eyes, for all his silliness.

*** I'd rate him higher if he'd had one more movie, or if either of his 2 movies were better
scripted; his performance itself was damn good, but you can only seperate the performance from the
script so much.

****I am of the heretical opinion that, had he been given the chance, Sellars would have
made an excellent James Bond.

***** Lazenby is a favourite of many so-called 'Bond Purists', but for every flash of
brilliance (brutal fight scenes, his emotion at Tracy's killing), he undercuts it by being very flippant,
to the point that I strongly feel that his take on the character strongly pre-figures Moore's over-the-top
silliness to a very great degree.


I usually see all Bond actors as good or better actors. Connery being the only Great Actor because he has been around so long that he has earned that title. Craig is really good. Give him more years and he too could earn that title.

I also saw some Connery in Craig's Bond. And I thought that was awesome. The way me started to manipulate people and events. His womanizing ways are more straight forward then Connery but its still a Connery Bond (and I see no reason for that to be a bad thing).
 
2012-11-14 10:45:38 AM  

under a mountain: Get ready to stone me, but I'm a Dalton fan.


You're stoned.

This list was complete crap.
 
2012-11-14 01:20:37 PM  
Goldeney was great however Famke was hot this women however was under rated

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IOG06y2cq4o/TLmfO6mmGAI/AAAAAAAAOfY/7zoprHW X tfg/s1600/Izabella+Scorupco+105.jpg
 
2012-11-14 04:10:15 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Goldeneye was badass, because it was still about Bond. He fought, he got his ass kicked, and he still succeeded. Every one after that (in the Brosnan era) was more about the technology that Bond and the bad guys carried (invisible car...WTF?!)

Casino Royale was amazing. It brought Bond back to the real world. It showed him getting tortured (the rope scene made me cringe), and still coming out of it looking badass.

QoS was Bond in name only. It was a revenge flick, not a spy flick and had a terrible plot/bad guy motivation to boot.


I actually enjoyed the premise of QoS, if not the ultimate execution: an organization, farsighted enough to see the planet running out of resources, decides to start picking up as much as it can through business contracts, political maneuvering, or outright gangsterism, in anticipation for a planetary economic crash as resources run thin. Problem was, they didn't make it grave enough. I don't want superweapons or improbable stuff in these new Bond movies, I much prefer their attempts at realism. But raising the cost of water in Bolivia by 200% is a meager plot point; I would have preferred more dire measures worldwide, make this organization seem excessively wealthy, intelligent, and above all, mostly legal in its methods. An Illuminati of sorts, without actually invoking those sad, tired tropes. Looking at you, Deus Ex.

The new Bond film suffered from much of the same, I feel; they had a great idea for a cool adversarial concept, they just didn't take it far enough (without going into self-parody)...

Just my opinion, though.
 
2012-11-14 04:35:42 PM  
These rankings are hogwash of course:
- GoldenEye is def top 5.
- Die Another Day is easily the worst, QoS probs second worst.
- You Only Live Twice should be WAY higher if only for the theme song alone. YOLT (way cooler than YOLO) is the greatest blend of camp and coolness in Bond ever.
- Skyfall was quite good, especially after the QoS debacle, but I think my expectations for it were too high. I thought the humor was not quite sharp enough, but I loved all the nods to prior Bond movies.
- Romanova in From Russia With Love is the hottest Bond girl ever hands down.
 
2012-11-14 05:14:23 PM  

FriarReb98: I don't like trying to order *all* of the movies, mostly because the actors all differently. The only things I will say are:

1. Connery, being the originator, ALWAYS gets a pass.
2. Lazenby has some issues, but he wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. (Example: the non-reaction to getting found out by Blofeld just seems like something he wouldn't normally do.)
3. Moore, for all intents and purposes, had some really good and really horrid parts to most of his movies. The space scene of Moonraker trumps all for stupidity and pandering to what's popular at the time, though, and the AFB circus scene where James Bond dresses up as a clown will always be the absolute nadir. The flip side to that is that he went up against Lee and Walken, two of the greatest Bond villains ever, and his movies are still mostly based off of original Fleming material.
4. Dalton... again with the bipolar. The Living Daylights wasn't bad until he (a) joins the Mujahideen, and (b) kills Joe Don Baker in his war room. And License to Kill was too much of a James Bond does Miami Vice movie (plus, FFS, Wayne Newton?!).
5. Brosnan was good, probably my second favorite, but on most days I'll say that his movies went downhill until the crash landing into complete implausibility that was Die Another Day. (The "most days" part is that I go back & forth between the two middle movies, mostly dependent on how much I can stomach Paris Carver at any given time.)
6. Craig was incredible in Casino Royale, but as stated a million places in a million ways, Quantum sucked extreme donkey balls. I've yet to see Skyfall so I can't comment on that, but if it's as good as advertised, then he's into a tie with Pierce for my favorite Bond not named Sean Connery.

That's where I stand on all of that.


Agree pretty much entirely. I will say that TND is better than World. World had a great opening and then fell to pieces by the time it got halfway through. TND is a legit solid Bond, stealth boat was cool, Carver was a nice twist on classic megalomanical villain. Main complaint is Stampa was a weak-ass #2 baddy.
 
2012-11-15 07:15:20 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Lego_Addict: Goldeneye will always be my #1 because of the N64 game. Nick Nack and Proximity Mines FTW!

No Oddjob!!!!


We actively encouraged people to play Oddjob because his head was pretty much at the default level for the crosshairs. Pretty much a constant headshot.

Jaws, on the other hand, was a farking cheat character. He headshot everyone else and you had to aim skyhigh to hit him in the head.
 
2012-11-15 09:19:12 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: scottydoesntknow: Lego_Addict: Goldeneye will always be my #1 because of the N64 game. Nick Nack and Proximity Mines FTW!

No Oddjob!!!!

We actively encouraged people to play Oddjob because his head was pretty much at the default level for the crosshairs. Pretty much a constant headshot.

Jaws, on the other hand, was a farking cheat character. He headshot everyone else and you had to aim skyhigh to hit him in the head.


What version of the game were you playing? my friends and I could never shoot Oddjob because he was always under our cross hairs. He was the one we all banned from play.
 
2012-11-15 02:44:10 PM  

yves0010: Shakin_Haitian: scottydoesntknow: Lego_Addict: Goldeneye will always be my #1 because of the N64 game. Nick Nack and Proximity Mines FTW!

No Oddjob!!!!

We actively encouraged people to play Oddjob because his head was pretty much at the default level for the crosshairs. Pretty much a constant headshot.

Jaws, on the other hand, was a farking cheat character. He headshot everyone else and you had to aim skyhigh to hit him in the head.

What version of the game were you playing? my friends and I could never shoot Oddjob because he was always under our cross hairs. He was the one we all banned from play.


Yea Oddjob's head was alwasy below the crosshair when we played. On the opposite end, Jaws was a bullet sponge because you could hit him almost anywhere.

/We only played License to Kill (1 shot kill), so headshots were negligible
 
2012-11-15 04:28:31 PM  
The Man Who Laughs: I blame Moore for turning the Bond series into a mockery of itself that took 30 years to set right.

I did not know that Roger Moore produced, wrote, or directed Bond films.
 
2012-11-15 05:52:29 PM  

Fano: expobill: Roger Moore's James Bond was what the 70's and 80's demanded in action films, and were the very popular then. Bond movies are made from their era.

Roger Moore = Bill Shatner.

Is this what people expected in the 70s?

A perfect, awesome stunt ruined by a SLIDE WHISTLE. And why the fat southern sheriff hanging out with Bond? Screw that guy.
I think Austin Powers pretty much was making fun of the Moore era.


I agree on the slide whistle, but the fat southern sheriff was the same one who got involved with the hijinks in "LIve and Let Die". It's important to be aware of the canon...
 
2012-11-17 05:31:37 AM  
OHMSS is the only Bond flick I can watch any more. It's the only one of the bunch that approaches the bar set by the Bourne trilogy.
 
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