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2012-11-13 01:40:12 PM  
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Oh Goldeneye
 
2012-11-13 01:43:35 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?


Not necessary at all. It is an entirely different story and the only part that is continuous of the Craig arc is his relationship with M, which you got the gist of from CR.
 
2012-11-13 01:45:01 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.


You're one of those people that are just ignoring the fact that Quantum of Solace was a thing, aren't you? Craig's been as hit-or-miss as basically everyone else with the possible exception of Connery. Even Casino Royale was a Bourne movie, not really a Bond movie, so a lot of the audience was preemptively bored with that shiat before the opening credits even rolled.

Can't deny the newest one was pretty awesome, but the overall run of the movies doesn't touch Connery's, I'd put it about on par with Moore's. Not that they're outright bad, or anything, but still. OK, Quantum was outright bad, but you see what I'm saying.
 
2012-11-13 01:45:45 PM  
Moonraker ranked lower than Living Daylights, View to a Kill and any of the Brosnan flicks?

List sucks.

Discussed Bond actors with a coworker yesterday and he made an excellent point:
What pulls you through a Bond movie, the actor or the story?

Connery and Craig create pull, Pierce might be able to if the story didn't crush him so badly (exception Goldeneye), Moore not so much, Dalton was just poor casting (good actor, bad casting, very weak scripts).
 
2012-11-13 01:45:45 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?


Strawberry Fields forever!

Other than that one can safely ignore QoS.
 
2012-11-13 01:50:15 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo:
Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?


Skip it. It's BINO (Bond in Name Only). Loose plot, crappy villian, and much more of a revenge flick than actual spy flick.
 
2012-11-13 01:50:21 PM  

Kazaa: Kind of amazed by the hate for The Living Daylights. To me, it plays way better now than most of the 80s Bond films, and would probably have more appeal to Craig fans than any of the others of that decade.


I agree. It stripped away a lot of the camp of the Moore era, and Dalton's Bond in that film was closest to the Bond of the novels.
 
2012-11-13 01:52:04 PM  

Sybarite: Dalton is probably the only Bond I never have the urge to rewatch when I run across one of this films playing on TV. I find his portrayal so boring.


Am I the only one in the universe who freaking loves his Bond? I admit the drug plot in the second movie sucked, and Wayne Newton wtf, but the first one was great and Dalton was wicked.
 
2012-11-13 01:52:26 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.


I have, and I second his opinion. Connery as Bond was the perfect mix of sauve, self-assurance that comes from Pre-WWII upper class British breeding, and down and dirty man of violence who was willing to do whtever it takes to get a job done. Moore was too effette, and Dalton and Brosnan played it too much as "generic Schwazenegger-esque action hero". FWIW Craig is the first bond since Connery I think has it right, but Connery was raised in the same cultural milleu as Ian Flemming, and "got" some of the subtlties of the character instinctively that Craig has to consciously ape.
 
2012-11-13 01:58:15 PM  

Odd Bird: I prefer the question of who is the better spy friend, Mitchel or Bean?

 
2012-11-13 02:02:29 PM  

hundreddollarman: Kirby Muxloe: hundreddollarman: EMCGuy: Am I the only one that thinks Goldfinger is overrated? It's always near the top of the list of Bond films, but I never considered it that great. It also seems to be overplayed. If you flip through TV channels and there's a Bond film on, it's either Goldfinger or a Brosnan or later movie.

I'm with you. Bond looks like an incompetent agent through the whole film and if it were not for the obfuscating stupidity of Goldfinger to keep him alive, Goldfinger would have been able to carry out his plan. The last-second save with Pussy Galore informing the U.S. authorities about Operation Grand Slam felt more like deus ex machina than a logical character choice. Had a bad-ass theme tune though. And Pussy Galore was smokin'.

IIRC Pussy Galore did that in the book too.

True. But the movie never makes any hint of Pussy Galore contemplating turning against Goldfinger until the end.



Yeah, the whole movie was "Bond gets lucky and wins despite acting incompetently". Despite having some good moments and quotable lines, there are much better Bond movies out there.
 
2012-11-13 02:04:22 PM  

Mugato: docmattic: Tthe Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.

I grew up with Roger Moore and, no.


Same. fark Roger Moore.

1. Connery
2. Craig
3. Dalton
4. Brosnan
5. Lazenby
6.
7.
8.
9.
10. Roger Moore

/rates for performance, not for the quality of the actual movies
//Die Another Day is easily the worst Bond movie ever
 
2012-11-13 02:08:40 PM  

Fish in a Barrel: Holy shiat, Jane Seymour was smokin' in '73!


Yes, she was. The 70s had the best Bond chicks. In fact, let's simplify this mess and rank these by decade.

1. 60s
2. 70s
3. 2000-present
4. 90s
5. 80s. And that's without lumping in 1979's Moonraker, which fits the 80s style more.
 
2012-11-13 02:16:13 PM  

Wyalt Derp: Bobby_and_The_Gorilla: Barbara Bach (Agent XXX) was the best Bond girl ever. Nope sorry, not debatable, no discussion, she was the best, LALALALALALALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

Second best after Jane Seymour.


Again sir, I say to you LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!
 
2012-11-13 02:18:53 PM  
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Octopussy was so much better than Dr. No.
 
2012-11-13 02:29:45 PM  

Cndn Bacon: I like GoldenEye but mostly because I've always had a thing for Famke Janssen and she was pretty damn hot in that movie:

[images.hollywood.com image 400x300]


My son's ENT doctor has a receptionist who looks like her. Only hotter and with bigger tits. I can barely control myself when I take him there.
 
2012-11-13 02:33:05 PM  

kobrakai:
My son's ENT doctor has a receptionist who looks like her.


24.media.tumblr.com

she must be farking fugly
 
2012-11-13 02:37:02 PM  

Jim_Callahan: DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.

You're one of those people that are just ignoring the fact that Quantum of Solace was a thing, aren't you? Craig's been as hit-or-miss as basically everyone else with the possible exception of Connery. Even Casino Royale was a Bourne movie, not really a Bond movie, so a lot of the audience was preemptively bored with that shiat before the opening credits even rolled.

Can't deny the newest one was pretty awesome, but the overall run of the movies doesn't touch Connery's, I'd put it about on par with Moore's. Not that they're outright bad, or anything, but still. OK, Quantum was outright bad, but you see what I'm saying.


I haven't seen QoS, and by all accounts I'm not missing anything.

Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.
 
2012-11-13 02:38:00 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.


Most batters would be stoked to have a 2.000 batting average.
 
2012-11-13 02:38:37 PM  
My top 5:

Thunderball
Thunderball
Thunderball
Thunderball
Thunderball
 
2012-11-13 02:45:19 PM  
I just realized that this must be a ranking of the James Bond theme songs.
 
2012-11-13 02:47:29 PM  

Saiga410: Odd Bird: I prefer the question of who is the better spy friend, Mitchel or Bean?


Clarify please.
 
2012-11-13 02:51:22 PM  
List is a troll. You Only Live Twice is awesome.
 
2012-11-13 02:51:47 PM  

docmattic: The Bond actor who you grew up with becomes, de facto, your definitive Bond.

Discuss.


Young'un here - born in 93. Sean Connery #1 with a bullet, with Craig a close second. I liked Dalton too. Lazenby was the only Bond I actively disliked.

Live and Let Die Is my favorite Bond movie, so I am the statistical outlier.

/But, that's like my opinion, Man.
 
2012-11-13 02:54:41 PM  
I love them all. They all have a place in the silly fun that is Bond.
 
2012-11-13 03:01:00 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Kazaa: Kind of amazed by the hate for The Living Daylights. To me, it plays way better now than most of the 80s Bond films, and would probably have more appeal to Craig fans than any of the others of that decade.

I agree. It stripped away a lot of the camp of the Moore era, and Dalton's Bond in that film was closest to the Bond of the novels.


And the final fight on the netting as it dangles from the back of the plane is the best action sequence in any Bond movie.

Anyone who likes Craig but hates Dalton is deluded.
 
2012-11-13 03:02:52 PM  

Suede head: List is a troll. You Only Live Twice is awesome.



My son loved it.  Of course he's 6 and loves Lego Ninjago too.  And went as a ninja for Halloween.
 
2012-11-13 03:03:01 PM  

thecpt: Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?

Not necessary at all. It is an entirely different story and the only part that is continuous of the Craig arc is his relationship with M, which you got the gist of from CR.


Wellon Dowd: Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?

Strawberry Fields forever!

Other than that one can safely ignore QoS.


scottydoesntknow: Debeo Summa Credo:
Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?

Skip it. It's BINO (Bond in Name Only). Loose plot, crappy villian, and much more of a revenge flick than actual spy flick.


Good enough for me. Thanks.
 
2012-11-13 03:05:09 PM  
Which film has the 30 minute (probably an exaggeration) grenade fight at the submarine port? That movie kicks tons of ass for that scene alone.
 
2012-11-13 03:06:29 PM  

I_C_Weener: Okay, aside from Madonna and a white North Korean and a sun laser thing and an invisible car (Wonder Woman's I think) what was so bad about Die Another Day?


So, other than that, Mrs, Lincoln, what did you think of the play?
 
2012-11-13 03:14:35 PM  

Magorn: DjangoStonereaver: BillCo: Sean Connery is the best bond ever. This is not arguable.

You've obviously not seen any of the Craig movies, or read any of the books.

I have, and I second his opinion. Connery as Bond was the perfect mix of sauve, self-assurance that comes from Pre-WWII upper class British breeding, and down and dirty man of violence who was willing to do whtever it takes to get a job done. Moore was too effette, and Dalton and Brosnan played it too much as "generic Schwazenegger-esque action hero". FWIW Craig is the first bond since Connery I think has it right, but Connery was raised in the same cultural milleu as Ian Flemming, and "got" some of the subtlties of the character instinctively that Craig has to consciously ape.


Um....

Connery was working class through and through; his father was a truck driver & factory worker, as was he (among
many other jobs he had before settling on acting). The closest thing that he & Fleming shared from their respective backgrounds was both served in the Royal Navy, though Connery was discharged on medical grounds
and was most assuredly not an officer. Fleming's initial impression of him, in fact, was that he was absolutely
wrong for the part, though this attitude mellowed considerably once he got to know Connery (and once Connery
had been tutored in the finer points of upper class English life, as related below).

Now, not discounting what Connery's native acting talent brought to the table, the character of his Bond was very
much molded by Terence Young, the director of DR. NO, FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE and THUNDERBALL.
Young was the one who shared Fleming's upper class, cosmopolitan background, and he was the one who showed
Connery how to dress, talk, and act like an upper class person. Lois Maxwell said that Young WAS Bond, even
moreso than Connery.
 
2012-11-13 03:16:40 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.

Most batters would be stoked to have a 2.000 batting average.


I was an English & Psych major, and barely passed statistics.

Smartass.... ;-P
 
2012-11-13 03:19:48 PM  
Best 5:

1. Goldfinger
2. From Russia With Love
3. Dr. No
4. Casino Royale
5. Thunderball

Worst 5:

1. License To Kill
2. The World is Not Enough
3. Moonraker
4. The Man With the Golden Gun
5. Die Another Day
 
2012-11-13 03:20:27 PM  

Gunny Highway: Which film has the 30 minute (probably an exaggeration) grenade fight at the submarine port? That movie kicks tons of ass for that scene alone.


The spy who loved me has a 15 minute shootout/grenade fight inside a ship that scooped up 3 submarines and could technically be considered a port. Thats a well respected movie too, and is Roger Moore's best IMO. Plus a good theme song.
 
2012-11-13 03:46:36 PM  

The Man Who Laughs: I blame Moore for turning the Bond series into a mockery of itself that took 30 years to set right. I honestly think Dalton could have been a better Bond if it weren't for people being so used to Moore's slapstick nonsense. He wanted to make Bond serious again, and over-corrected.


you dont know how movies work, do you? Roger Moore is no more to blame for his era than I am to blame for my shiatty boss.
 
2012-11-13 03:57:44 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: The All-Powerful Atheismo: DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.

Most batters would be stoked to have a 2.000 batting average.

I was an English & Psych major, and barely passed statistics.

Smartass.... ;-P


More of a "baseball terminology" question
 
2012-11-13 04:03:02 PM  

Mugato: edip1976: Craig certainly returned some of the humor to the role

He did? I found the movie rather dour and humorless. Very... British. Not that that's bad, it just didn't have the levity that Bond movies usually have. Which is not a criticism, previous Bond movies could get goofy at times but I guess I just miss the fun that the Brosnan ones had.


That is to say, he did in Skyfall, there were a few dry one liners. CR and QoS, not so much. Well, except for the line about scratching his balls. That was ok by me though, considering we were re-entering Moore level silliness with Die Another Day.
 
2012-11-13 04:04:45 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.


Yeah, I'm not saying he's bad at it or anything, it just took him until the third movie to really figure out who Bond is and start actually playing the character and making it his own instead of looking slightly puzzled whenever asked to do one of the silly mannerisms.

As of Skyfall, Craig's Bond is meaner than most of the others, but he's actually found the groove and I'll keep watching the movies. The bit where he shows real emotion for the first time in three movies over the car was pretty much what convinced me he finally gets it. And he can finally do the one-liners without it seeming like he's reading them off a script. Some of this is his direction, I'm sure, but it helps to have the actor on board, too.
 
2012-11-13 04:23:37 PM  

Jim_Callahan: DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.

Yeah, I'm not saying he's bad at it or anything, it just took him until the third movie to really figure out who Bond is and start actually playing the character and making it his own instead of looking slightly puzzled whenever asked to do one of the silly mannerisms.

As of Skyfall, Craig's Bond is meaner than most of the others, but he's actually found the groove and I'll keep watching the movies. The bit where he shows real emotion for the first time in three movies over the car was pretty much what convinced me he finally gets it. And he can finally do the one-liners without it seeming like he's reading them off a script. Some of this is his direction, I'm sure, but it helps to have the actor on board, too.


Well, if you think about it, CR featured a Bond that was completely green to the Double-Oh game. M scolds him on numerous occasions about what it means. QoS, while yes is a shiatty movie, also picks up exactly where CR left off, so Bond is the same green agent. One assumes that many years of fictional adventures have happened between QoS and Skyfall, and in that time Craig's Bond has become the Bond we're familiar with. In essence, this is the first movie with Craig where he can put his spin on the classic bits as a fully realized Bond.

I enjoyed it immensely.

For the record, I also enjoyed Dalton's take on the role. His scripts were not the strongest though.
 
2012-11-13 04:26:39 PM  

Falco09: BronyMedic: Uh, okay. I'll say it.

SKYFALL made me need new pants as a life-long Bond movie fan. All of the mytharc callbacks, and half-answered lore teasers (Including the hint that the "people" are truely different people, despite all being the same name and designators) were awesome.

And the old Aston Marton with the ejector seat? Wonderful.

It made absolutely zero sense for this car to be in the movie. There's only one James Bond; Sean Connery's Bond doesn't exist in the Daniel Craig Bond universe. Are we to believe that this Aston Martin was just some MI6 relic? Bond won a DB5 in Casino Royale. It should have been this car in the movie (sans ejector seat and machine guns) that Bond had simply been keeping in storage.

I was actually really disappointed with Skyfall. Clunky dialogue, CGI komodo dragons, and the silly Home Alone ending kind of ruined it for me.

/Casino Royale is still my favorite
//Dr. No and Goldeneye are close seconds


I justified the car to myself by assuming that Q-branch modded the car for him after he acquired it long before he ever met Q himself (they only met now because the smaller quarters aforded after the M16 incident) although the minimalist nature of the gadgets proffered by nu-Q suggests such is highly unlikely.

Still, this complaint aside, I thought this was a much stronger bond film than anything in the last 15 years, Casino Royale excluded.
 
2012-11-13 04:37:08 PM  

Falco09:
If I'm not mistaken, Goldeneye was the name of Fleming's Jamaican estate. It was a way for the writers to pay homage to the author after they ran out of actual Bond titles.


It was also the name of a WW2 operation designed by Fleming. In some ways, it's the most poignant of the movie names.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Goldeneye
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldeneye_%28estate%29
 
2012-11-13 04:39:10 PM  

Jim_Callahan: The bit where he shows real emotion for the first time in three movies over the car was pretty much what convinced me he finally gets it.



I think he showed some pretty real emotion during Vesper's death scene in CR.
 
2012-11-13 04:44:57 PM  
Just saw it. Pretty good. Very character- and performance-driven. Takes too long to get to Friendo, but he's definitely one of the best Bond villains, even if the movie underserves him. The Dark Knight parallels are distracting. Great cinematography. Music was overwhelming, took away from the action scenes.
 
2012-11-13 04:48:08 PM  

Jim_Callahan: DjangoStonereaver: Craig's signed for 2 more movies; so far he's 2 for 1, and that's a damn good batting average.

Yeah, I'm not saying he's bad at it or anything, it just took him until the third movie to really figure out who Bond is and start actually playing the character and making it his own instead of looking slightly puzzled whenever asked to do one of the silly mannerisms.

As of Skyfall, Craig's Bond is meaner than most of the others, but he's actually found the groove and I'll keep watching the movies. The bit where he shows real emotion for the first time in three movies over the car was pretty much what convinced me he finally gets it. And he can finally do the one-liners without it seeming like he's reading them off a script. Some of this is his direction, I'm sure, but it helps to have the actor on board, too.


The little adjustment of his cufflink when he jumps into the train (and before anyone whines about a SPOILER, this
is in every trailer & commercial) showed me he finally 'got' Bond. Sort of like how Brosnan popping his head up
out of the tank hatch and adjusting his tie in GOLDENEYE was his signal that he had the part well in hand.
 
2012-11-13 04:54:57 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: Just saw it. Pretty good. Very character- and performance-driven. Takes too long to get to Friendo, but he's definitely one of the best Bond villains, even if the movie underserves him. The Dark Knight parallels are distracting. Great cinematography. Music was overwhelming, took away from the action scenes.


That's one statement I just don't get.

If you think the music is overwhelming in Skyfall, just check out all the ones scored by John Barry.
 
2012-11-13 05:02:53 PM  

Rhypskallion: Falco09:
If I'm not mistaken, Goldeneye was the name of Fleming's Jamaican estate. It was a way for the writers to pay homage to the author after they ran out of actual Bond titles.

It was also the name of a WW2 operation designed by Fleming. In some ways, it's the most poignant of the movie names.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Goldeneye
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldeneye_%28estate%29


I had no idea, that's really cool. Thanks for that.
 
2012-11-13 05:11:48 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?


Skip it. Not only is it not really a good Bond movie, it's just not a great movie in general. It was hit hard by the writer's strike and you can tell. Read a summary and skip it.

Jim_Callahan: The bit where he shows real emotion for the first time in three movies over the car was pretty much what convinced me he finally gets it


Come on man, did you even watch the end of CR? He was genuinely beat up over Vesper.
 
2012-11-13 05:24:22 PM  
Connory > Brosnam > Dalton > Moore = Craig
 
2012-11-13 05:24:25 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Debeo Summa Credo: Is it necessary or advisable for me to see QoS before watching Skyfall? Or can I just skip QoS?

Skip it. Not only is it not really a good Bond movie, it's just not a great movie in general. It was hit hard by the writer's strike and you can tell.


Plus bad camera work and shiatty editing on top of that. The whole thing is a complete mess.
 
2012-11-13 05:26:32 PM  
To say say it in two words - Skyfall sucked. It was simply a long drawn out move designed to say good-by to two of the main characters with some added nostalgia. The action scenes were simply makeovers from other movies, not all necessarily Bond movies. There were also a lot of slips and loose ends. Unless they get a new Bond, and some new creative writers, it is time for Bond to end before it turns into an absolute disaster. I would rate Skyfall at a D. Yesterday I saw three movies: Skyfall; Cloud Atlas; Flight. Flight was the best of all of these.
 
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