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2012-11-13 08:55:33 AM  
Quit trying to jinx my Sooners!

/it's bad enough the pundits want them in a BCS game
//where they will choke
 
2012-11-13 09:54:13 AM  
Mediocre Big XII team goes to SEC and becomes elite while knocking off the presumed national champion.

National title contender goes to the Big XII and gets the crap knocked out of it every week.

Why is the SEC the best conference in the country again?
 
2012-11-13 09:57:04 AM  

Thoguh: Mediocre Big XII team goes to SEC and becomes elite while knocking off the presumed national champion.

National title contender goes to the Big XII and gets the crap knocked out of it every week.

Why is the SEC the best conference in the country again?


Um, West Virginia's issues aren't due to the Big XII being awesome, they're due to their defense being terrible. If you ever thought West Virginia was an NC contender, you probably thought the same about Texas and Arkansas. And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...
 
2012-11-13 10:03:45 AM  

Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...


You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

/guess when you're the mediocre Big XII team that goes to the SEC and sucks, it's not as fun
//but yeah, WVU only ever looked good because they were in the Big East before
 
2012-11-13 10:45:48 AM  

IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).


It doesn't matter what you would think, the fact is that Sumlin and Manziel gave A&M the push they needed to get over the hump, and their move to the SEC looks brilliant in hindsight. So the crack about being a mediocre Big XII team is just sour grapes.
 
2012-11-13 11:05:16 AM  
Millions of Americans report on sports. Some can write and spell. Subby, link to one of those people next time.
 
2012-11-13 11:08:32 AM  
Obviously SEC defense is superior to even crappy NFL teams and will curbstomp a Big 12-style offense.
 
2012-11-13 11:15:14 AM  
At least Geno will be laughing all the way to the bank as the Chiefs' #1 draft choice.
 
2012-11-13 11:26:38 AM  
We have an arsehole blogger here in Jacksonville that keeps harping on taking Geno with the 1st round pick.
 
2012-11-13 11:46:29 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: At least Geno will be laughing all the way to the bank as the Chiefs' #1 draft choice.


You shut the eff up.
 
2012-11-13 12:19:30 PM  

IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

/guess when you're the mediocre Big XII team that goes to the SEC and sucks, it's not as fun
//but yeah, WVU only ever looked good because they were in the Big East before


A top 10 pick by Miami, who hasn't had a good QB since Marino. A Qb who was playing WR and went to QB out of necessity

Gee, could it be possible that his replacement could be an improvement
 
2012-11-13 12:25:31 PM  
Gyno Smith will never win the Heiswoman now.
 
2012-11-13 12:34:11 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: At least Geno will be laughing all the way to the bank as the Chiefs' #1 draft choice.


THAT, was funny.
 
2012-11-13 01:04:18 PM  

IAmRight: //but yeah, WVU only ever looked good because they were in the Big East before


Which totally explains the Sugar, Fiesta, and Orange Bowl trophies.
 
2012-11-13 01:08:47 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: At least Geno will be laughing all the way to the bank as the Chiefs' #1 draft choice.


Let's be honest, the Jags will get that pick and take him. The Chiefs at least have a shot against Carolina, Cleveland and Oakland. The Jags are probably going to lose out.
 
2012-11-13 01:15:46 PM  

keypusher: Millions of Americans report on sports. Some can write and spell. Subby, link to one of those people next time.


Lordy, this.
 
2012-11-13 01:16:11 PM  

Lou Brown: Which totally explains the Sugar, Fiesta, and Orange Bowl trophies.


Since the RichRod era began: F*CK YEAH WEST VIRGINIA WE'RE 4-4 IN BOWLS, MOSTLY AGAINST ACC TEAMS. BALLA!
 
2012-11-13 01:23:16 PM  

Thoguh: National title contender goes to the Big XII and gets the crap knocked out of it every week.


LOL..."national title contender"...Yeah in their minds and in the minds of people who wanted to call them that to prove a point.
 
2012-11-13 01:26:25 PM  

IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

/guess when you're the mediocre Big XII team that goes to the SEC and sucks, it's not as fun
//but yeah, WVU only ever looked good because they were in the Big East before


Remember the game that really got them noticed this season? That ridiculous 70-63 game vs. Baylor. When that happened I was like, I wonder if they will play better D against other conference foes. The answer was no. They are half a football team.
 
2012-11-13 01:26:47 PM  
I hope West Virginia gets a bowl game against my Vols. All sorts of offensive records would be broken.
 
2012-11-13 01:27:41 PM  

theurge14: Obviously SEC defense is superior to even crappy NFL teams and will curbstomp a Big 12-style offense.


Good SEC defenses are made to look great by the hard to watch offenses those same teams put on the field.

(That goes for this year, not as rule for the SEC)
 
2012-11-13 01:30:42 PM  
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SUCK IT HOOPIES!
 
2012-11-13 01:32:02 PM  

Lou Brown: IAmRight: //but yeah, WVU only ever looked good because they were in the Big East before

Which totally explains the Sugar, Fiesta, and Orange Bowl trophies.


What do two of those have to do with anything. Are any players from either of the first two trophies you reference on the team anymore? No? Okay, then lets just talk about last year. The ACC is pretty much a joke too, so just because WVU got to play one of their teams in a bowl with a special name doesn't really mean anything significant.
 
2012-11-13 01:41:05 PM  
So I see the SEC hater talking point of the month is that SEC defenses are so good because SEC offenses are really bad. You guys stick with that and lets see how it turns out

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2012-11-13 01:49:42 PM  

srhp29: Lou Brown: IAmRight: //but yeah, WVU only ever looked good because they were in the Big East before

Which totally explains the Sugar, Fiesta, and Orange Bowl trophies.

What do two of those have to do with anything. Are any players from either of the first two trophies you reference on the team anymore? No? Okay, then lets just talk about last year. The ACC is pretty much a joke too, so just because WVU got to play one of their teams in a bowl with a special name doesn't really mean anything significant.


They have to do with the assertion that WVU only looked good in the past because they were in the Big East. The fact that WVU beat conference champions from the SEC, Big 12, and ACC in bowl games during the time WVU was in the Big East seems to contradict that assertion. Unless he was only referencing last year and then saying it doesn't count because the ACC sucks too, but I'm pretty sure he didn't.
 
2012-11-13 01:51:54 PM  

IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

/guess when you're the mediocre Big XII team that goes to the SEC and sucks, it's not as fun
//but yeah, WVU only ever looked good because they were in the Big East before


He was only top 10 because Miami was desperate, along with no other QBs that people thought were any good. Quit acting like atm's old QB was anything other than a product of an average thrower playing in a down big 12 which is further highlighted this year by most teams being shiatty again.

Atm has a lot better personnel on the coaching staff and better weapons so let's not act like this atm team wouldnt still be undefeated in the big 12 instead of having 2 conference losses.
 
2012-11-13 01:57:50 PM  
I hate to say this, but this year, Boston College is really horrible.

/haz a sad
 
2012-11-13 02:11:53 PM  
a bad defense and all WVU would be undefeated if still in the big East. It will take 3-4 years for WVU to start getting TX,OK and other Western states players to play at WVU. they are in a excellent position. Current squad is made up of W. PA, OH,NJ and FA recruits. If they can keep those channels open and add some talent from out west most likely they contend for the Conf title year after year.

Geno Smith will be the first QB taken.

Tavon Austin will go in the first round.
Stedman Bailey can have a starting job in the NFL as a slot receiver. a pretty physical receiver.
 
2012-11-13 02:17:24 PM  

PsyLord: I hate to say this, but this year, Boston College is really horrible.

/haz a sad


The whole ACC looks like shiat, why FSU was ever top 5 I will never know.
 
2012-11-13 02:59:42 PM  

Mentat: IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

It doesn't matter what you would think, the fact is that Sumlin and Manziel gave A&M the push they needed to get over the hump, and their move to the SEC looks brilliant in hindsight. So the crack about being a mediocre Big XII team is just sour grapes.


That's not a crack...they were a mediocre Big 12 team.
 
2012-11-13 03:13:53 PM  

kstofer: Mentat: IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

It doesn't matter what you would think, the fact is that Sumlin and Manziel gave A&M the push they needed to get over the hump, and their move to the SEC looks brilliant in hindsight. So the crack about being a mediocre Big XII team is just sour grapes.

That's not a crack...they were a mediocre Big 12 team.


The point is the entire big 12 is mediocre
 
2012-11-13 03:23:43 PM  

kstofer: Mentat: IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

It doesn't matter what you would think, the fact is that Sumlin and Manziel gave A&M the push they needed to get over the hump, and their move to the SEC looks brilliant in hindsight. So the crack about being a mediocre Big XII team is just sour grapes.

That's not a crack...they were a mediocre Big 12 team.


Define mediocrity = 64-60 over the last ten years (with two 9-4 seasons and three below .500).

The irony is, TAMU would be undefeated this season if they stayed in the Big12.
 
2012-11-13 03:28:47 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: So I see the SEC hater talking point of the month is that SEC defenses are so good because SEC offenses are really bad. You guys stick with that and lets see how it turns out

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Do you know what the final score of that game was beteween Oregon and Auburn? 22-19. Seems both defenses were able to hold the opposing offenses to far less than season averages that day. (as far as the Texas-Bama game goes, didn't Bama barely beat Texas with a guy QBing for Texas pretty much the whole game who had almost no playing experience)...your arguments in pictures were poor selections.

And stop bringing up the farking past. My statement and I clearly labled it was about THIS FARKING SEASON.

Do people just not f*cking get that college football teams from year apart are not the same team? They have entirely different rosters of players?

It's mind numbing how stupid people can be.
 
2012-11-13 03:39:37 PM  

TedDalton: kstofer: Mentat: IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

It doesn't matter what you would think, the fact is that Sumlin and Manziel gave A&M the push they needed to get over the hump, and their move to the SEC looks brilliant in hindsight. So the crack about being a mediocre Big XII team is just sour grapes.

That's not a crack...they were a mediocre Big 12 team.

Define mediocrity = 64-60 over the last ten years (with two 9-4 seasons and three below .500).

The irony is, TAMU would be undefeated this season if they stayed in the Big12.


Do you really think A&M would beat Kansas State? I just don't see that happening at all. Check out this article.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/59642/all-those-kansas-state- s tats-add-up-to-no-1
 
2012-11-13 03:46:48 PM  

TedDalton: kstofer: Mentat: IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

It doesn't matter what you would think, the fact is that Sumlin and Manziel gave A&M the push they needed to get over the hump, and their move to the SEC looks brilliant in hindsight. So the crack about being a mediocre Big XII team is just sour grapes.

That's not a crack...they were a mediocre Big 12 team.

Define mediocrity = 64-60 over the last ten years (with two 9-4 seasons and three below .500).

The irony is, TAMU would be undefeated this season if they stayed in the Big12.


Wow, good to know. They would be undefeated. Case closed!

Here's where A&M finished in the Big 12 the last 10 years: 9, 10, 4, 9, 4, 6, 11, 8, 5, 7. I don't think it's a stretch to call that mediocre.
 
2012-11-13 03:50:59 PM  

TedDalton:
Define mediocrity = 64-60 over the last ten years (with two 9-4 seasons and three below .500).


I'd say that going .516 over the last decade is pretty much exactly the definition of mediocre.
 
2012-11-13 03:53:41 PM  

srhp29: ModernPrimitive01: So I see the SEC hater talking point of the month is that SEC defenses are so good because SEC offenses are really bad. You guys stick with that and lets see how it turns out

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[www3.pictures.zimbio.com image 594x396]

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Do you know what the final score of that game was beteween Oregon and Auburn? 22-19. Seems both defenses were able to hold the opposing offenses to far less than season averages that day. (as far as the Texas-Bama game goes, didn't Bama barely beat Texas with a guy QBing for Texas pretty much the whole game who had almost no playing experience)...your arguments in pictures were poor selections.

And stop bringing up the farking past. My statement and I clearly labled it was about THIS FARKING SEASON.

Do people just not f*cking get that college football teams from year apart are not the same team? They have entirely different rosters of players?

It's mind numbing how stupid people can be.


My bad. I'll do this year then:

graphics8.nytimes.com

For further proof I will offer the Tennessee Vols. Putting up 37.9 ppg this year and are still 0-6 in conference play. They've scored 44, 31,35, and 48 points in SEC games and have lost all of them. I think if SEC offenses were so terrible numbers like that would have won at least 1 game
 
2012-11-13 04:01:09 PM  

kstofer: TedDalton: kstofer: Mentat: IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

It doesn't matter what you would think, the fact is that Sumlin and Manziel gave A&M the push they needed to get over the hump, and their move to the SEC looks brilliant in hindsight. So the crack about being a mediocre Big XII team is just sour grapes.

That's not a crack...they were a mediocre Big 12 team.

Define mediocrity = 64-60 over the last ten years (with two 9-4 seasons and three below .500).

The irony is, TAMU would be undefeated this season if they stayed in the Big12.

Wow, good to know. They would be undefeated. Case closed!

Here's where A&M finished in the Big 12 the last 10 years: 9, 10, 4, 9, 4, 6, 11, 8, 5, 7. I don't think it's a stretch to call that mediocre.


But don't you love how SEC Shades have already made A&M better than anyone in the Big XII regardless of the fact they have never done very well in the Big XII. It's like just getting into the SEC made them great. I'm sure SEC homers will also tell you Missouri could compete for conference titles in most other conferences.
 
2012-11-13 04:09:46 PM  

srhp29: kstofer: TedDalton: kstofer: Mentat: IAmRight: Mentat: And if only there were some factor that could account for A&M's improvement, like say a new coach or a new qb...

You'd think losing a top-10 NFL draft pick and starting a freshman would make them worse (ordinarily).

It doesn't matter what you would think, the fact is that Sumlin and Manziel gave A&M the push they needed to get over the hump, and their move to the SEC looks brilliant in hindsight. So the crack about being a mediocre Big XII team is just sour grapes.

That's not a crack...they were a mediocre Big 12 team.

Define mediocrity = 64-60 over the last ten years (with two 9-4 seasons and three below .500).

The irony is, TAMU would be undefeated this season if they stayed in the Big12.

Wow, good to know. They would be undefeated. Case closed!

Here's where A&M finished in the Big 12 the last 10 years: 9, 10, 4, 9, 4, 6, 11, 8, 5, 7. I don't think it's a stretch to call that mediocre.

But don't you love how SEC Shades have already made A&M better than anyone in the Big XII regardless of the fact they have never done very well in the Big XII. It's like just getting into the SEC made them great. I'm sure SEC homers will also tell you Missouri could compete for conference titles in most other conferences.


Nobody has said that, what people have said is the this atm team is not close to the one from last year and no matter what a button pusher at ESPN thinks they would at worst have one loss or be leading the big 12. I'm betting the atm echelon are pissy they left one year too early and didn't get one more chance to beat them with their best team in a decade.

Oh but Missouri would still be butt average.
 
2012-11-13 04:13:31 PM  

steamingpile: Nobody has said that, what people have said is the this atm team is not close to the one from last year and no matter what a button pusher at ESPN thinks they would at worst have one loss or be leading the big 12.


Yes, someone has said that. I was responding directly to that comment that A&M would be unbeaten in the Bix XII this year.
 
2012-11-13 05:19:57 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: For further proof I will offer the Tennessee Vols. Putting up 37.9 ppg this year and are still 0-6 in conference play. They've scored 44, 31,35, and 48 points in SEC games and have lost all of them. I think if SEC offenses were so terrible numbers like that would have won at least 1 game


It shows the SEC has shiatty defenses this year. No team should let Tenn score that many points.....
 
2012-11-13 06:45:13 PM  

PsyLord: I hate to say this, but this year, Boston College is really horrible.

/haz a sad


Probably didn't help when you hired Jim "I am the Walrus" Bollman. I hate Tressel for allowing him anywhere near our offensive line.
 
2012-11-13 07:03:58 PM  

srhp29: steamingpile: Nobody has said that, what people have said is the this atm team is not close to the one from last year and no matter what a button pusher at ESPN thinks they would at worst have one loss or be leading the big 12.

Yes, someone has said that. I was responding directly to that comment that A&M would be unbeaten in the Bix XII this year.


That's not far fetched and you should realize this since its college not the pros, auburn has went from a national championship team to a team that will be lucky to have 3 wins and get their coach fired. In two short years that happened and the last year they were still pretty shiatty.

One player can make that much difference in college.
 
2012-11-14 01:38:27 AM  
Look, I understand that 2012 A&M is not 2011 A&M, but let's not get carried away. Yes A&M finished 7th in the league last year and would finish higher this year. Baylor was 3rd last year but once they lost RGIII they're currently circling the drain at 9th. I think the point is with the Big 12 is that it's not that much distance between the top and bottom. And I think A&M this year has proved that the SEC and the Big 12 are a lot more comparable than some people gave the Big 12 credit for.
 
2012-11-14 02:39:50 PM  

keypusher: Millions of Americans report on sports. Some can write and spell. Subby, link to one of those people next time.


"Sportswriters are a kind of rude and brainless subculture of fascist drunks whose only real function is to publicize & sell whatever the sports editor sends them out to cover... Which is a nice way to make a living, because it keeps a man busy and requires no thought at all. The two keys to success as a sportswriter are 1) a blind willingness to believe anything you're told by the coaches, flacks, hustlers and other "official spokesmen" for the team-owners who provide the free booze... and: 2) a Roget's Thesaurus, in order to avoid using the same verbs and adjectives twice in the same paragraph." -Hunter S. Thompson
 
2012-11-14 02:43:12 PM  

uknowzit: a bad defense and all WVU would be undefeated if still in the big East.


Last year's WVU team was better and yet lost to Louisville and lowly Syracuse. They'd hardly be undefeated in the Big East this year.
 
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