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Rapmaster2000		2012-11-13 07:26:03 AM

12 votes:

I need to drive 500 miles a day and pull 5 tons of concrete on a trailer so these cars are stupid. This is even dumber than the subway. Can you get 5 tons of concrete on a subway? No. Because it is stupid. Who would ever use that?

Harry Freakstorm		2012-11-13 07:46:25 AM

6 votes:

I'm in. I'll tool down the road. My horn will blare "I PAY NO ROAD USE TAX SUCKERS!" I'll tell the SUV fatass in the cube next to me "Kindly, fatass, perchance thee to fill your tank tonight. There's an awful pothole on my commute and I desire it filled. My car, lamentably, pays naught a cent of tax for such trifles."

Then I would push the company to set up a charging station near the entrance. Like a Handicapped parking but without all those gimpy overtones. When I walk past it, I'll say something like "Look that person is making a difference. Reducing our reliance on terrist oil and pushing U S American technology forward. What a real American hero he must be. Not like those lazy get blowed up soldiers in AfgahnIraq."

Rapmaster2000		2012-11-13 07:17:03 AM

3 votes:

I heard that these cars will make you gay.

Honest Bender		2012-11-13 07:15:59 AM

3 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: The 'Car of the Year' awards are all slanted towards luxury models.

You'll never see the Toyota Tercel or Honda Civic winning one. The basis for judgment is skewed towards high end models.

You're complaining that the better cars always get the award for best car? Maybe we could give your Tercel a participation ribbon. Would that make you feel better?

phrawgh		2012-11-13 07:01:59 AM

3 votes:

Great idea, in theory.
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my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food		2012-11-13 12:48:58 PM

2 votes:

foxyshadis: inner ted: does this mean we are foregoing hydrogen? cause that seems to have a whole ass load of potential

/probably can't have infrastructure for both electric & hydrogen along with petrol
//we need a new 'standard'

Despite the volatility of gasoline, on the whole it's actually remarkably stable at normal temps and Hollywood explosions are extremely rare even in the worst built cars of the 60's. Hydrogen, on the other hand, is one of the most reactive materials in existence. Yes, in liquid form it holds a lot of energy in a compact volume and is incredibly easy to manufacture, but the safety drop tends to outweigh the benefits in a world where accidents are common. They'll always be a niche.

That's not to say Li batteries can't explode, but that danger level is roughly similar to gasoline's.

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: So since we covered that gas has zero advantages over Lithium Ion batteries (from an environmental standpoint, obviously the economic side hasn't matured yet, but it is catching up) lets see...

You seem to be arguing with someone who feels we should abandon modern life and go back to farming our own food; it's the only premise any of his arguments make sense for.

Woah, woah, woah there buddy. Farming food requires strip mining the topsoil, removal of acres of existing carbon-absorbing vegetation to make room for veggies, use of numerous fertilizers and pesticides, and don't even get me started on bovine methane production.

We really shouldn't even be eating food. If you are honest about the actual cost (or carbon footprint)of manufacturing this food, everytime you eat something, you are personally destroying the environment. We should all just suck gasoline through a straw for 3 meals a day.

/Because everything but gasoline is bad

CeroX		2012-11-13 11:01:53 AM

2 votes:

jshine: Hollie Maea: Also, goddamn there is some ignorance in this thread. Why are people so terrified of progress?

It's nice that these are cheap to refuel, but it seems like a step backward to go from a vehicle that can be refueled in 5 minutes to one that takes hours to "fuel". Electric cars are great in principle, but battery technology sucks, quite frankly, and its at the core of the design. Fuel cells or some kind of internal generator (similar to the Chevy Volt) would seem like a better idea.

Jesus H Christ... You drive a mustang gt don't you? You have "American Muscle Cars 4life" tat'd on your penis? Because you are just a complete waste of farking conversation...

You realize that within a couple of years, they will come up with a magnetic charger pad like they have for your cell phones and toothbrushes, and all you will have to do is throw one down on the floor of your garage?

Park your car, and it charges... you won't even have to bother plugging it in, you just park your car and the next morning it's got a "full tank"...

But i bet your REAL issue, is that the car doesn't go RRRRRAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR when you rev the engine at a stop light next to the 18 year old with the fart can on his civic...

CeroX		2012-11-13 10:46:21 AM

2 votes:

Hollie Maea: Why are people so terrified of progress?

They don't call themselves conservative because they are out there in the world making changes to better the future...

Xcott		2012-11-13 10:23:56 AM

2 votes:

chevydeuce: /Tesla is a good looking car, but 60K for a glorified golf cart?

Well, a Hummer is just a glorified lawn mower.

Bomb Head Mohammed		2012-11-13 07:35:43 AM

2 votes:

knbber2: Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day? And the baseline is only $60K, what a bargain.

You must have a most impressive collection of both NASCAR and Git-R-Done hats, t-shirts, and belt buckles.

abhorrent1		2012-11-13 07:29:17 AM

2 votes:

Rapmaster2000: I heard that these cars will make you gay.

No. That's weed.

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enry		2012-11-13 07:05:44 AM

2 votes:

Mrbogey: Ingenuity would be making one of these for the price of a standard car. If costs aren't a factor, you can build damn near anything.

And yet the major car companies and all their years and billions in research gave us...the Chevy Volt

knbber2		2012-11-13 12:25:48 AM

2 votes:

Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day? And the baseline is only $60K, what a bargain.

ajgeek		2012-11-13 01:29:12 PM

1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: People talk about these cars like they're so great, but what if you have to get to an island. Then what do you do? Exactly. That's why I only commute by hovercraft.

Pfft. What if you have no water or flat land to move over? This is why I only commute by helicopter. You can't take the sky from me!

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food		2012-11-13 01:13:25 PM

1 votes:

MrSteve007: This text is now purple: Those stations supplement from solar, but are primarily driven by grid energy.

They are indeed connected to the grid, but I wouldn't call generating an excess of power a "supplement."

BusinessWeek: "Musk also serves as the chairman of SolarCity, a residential and commercial solar-panel installer that has built car port technology for the Tesla stations. The stations will generate more power than the cars need, which means Tesla will sell power back to the grid" Link

This is their post 2-year plan for 30 minute charging stations, which supplement the thousands of standard, public charging stations already in place. (I currently have 13 public charging spots on the 25 mile drive between work and home).

One more example of why you are farkied as "Super Solar Steve", you have more useful, practical, real-world knowledge of solar installations than anyone else I have ever seen on fark...no real point to this post, just wanted to give you a shout-out

/Thanks

mainstreet62		2012-11-13 12:18:18 PM

1 votes:

Kraftwerk Orange: If you don't see the visual similarities, you're blind.

Yes, both have 4 wheels, a windshield, and are made of metal. What's your point?

Rapmaster2000		2012-11-13 12:03:08 PM

1 votes:

People talk about these cars like they're so great, but what if you have to get to an island. Then what do you do? Exactly. That's why I only commute by hovercraft.

natazha		2012-11-13 11:36:06 AM

1 votes:

knbber2: Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day? And the baseline is only $60K, what a bargain.

And those grapes are probably sour!

And that model has pointy knees!

And I'll always hate something I'll never be able to afford!

And other whining.

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food		2012-11-13 11:35:43 AM

1 votes:

Just to be absolutely clear.

If you think the Lithium in Lithium Ion batteries is harmful to the environment to mine, you are mentally retarded.

theorellior		2012-11-13 11:18:27 AM

1 votes:

Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: My opinion has nothing to do with the basics law of thermodynamics getting in the way of your tree-hugging circle jerk.

Are you even reading my comments? The ones that talk about energy tradeoffs and suchlike? Or are you so invested in counting coup against an environazi that you're turning off your brain?

theorellior		2012-11-13 11:04:47 AM

1 votes:

CeroX: But i bet your REAL issue, is that the car doesn't go RRRRRAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR when you rev the engine at a stop light next to the 18 year old with the fart can on his civic...

Fortunately, they'll probably include an IC-engine noise pack and external speakers in your sports car EV so you can play the muscle-car rumble-rumble at stoplights.

TehBoognish		2012-11-13 11:02:03 AM

1 votes:

I love Tesla

theorellior		2012-11-13 10:52:30 AM

1 votes:

Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: Yes, and I'm sure the recycling furnaces are heated with warm fuzzy feelings about baby seals and polar bears.

Look, pardner, just because an environmentalist touched you in a bad place, doesn't mean you're right. I wasn't talking about recycling the batteries. I'm talking about the fact that nickel is a major industrial metal, used for many, many other things than just NiMH batteries for Priuses and Civics. If there were no Priuses anywhere on the planet, nickel would still be strip-mined in megaton quanitites. You can't pin the entire environmental impact of nickel strip mining on NiMH batteries, because to do that would be intellectually disingenuous.

ryarger		2012-11-13 07:36:42 AM

1 votes:

I wonder where TM would be if they named themselves "Smith Motors" rather than trade on the name of the most popular engineer in history.

The five letters "Tesla" are like an orgasmatron for nerds who understand engineering better than they do science.

/But his music rocked, I'll give him that

AverageAmericanGuy		2012-11-13 07:23:27 AM

1 votes:

DSanchez: AverageAmericanGuy: The 'Car of the Year' awards are all slanted towards luxury models.

You'll never see the Toyota Tercel or Honda Civic winning one. The basis for judgment is skewed towards high end models.

Actually, the civic won in 2006.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Trend_Car_of_the_Year

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