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2012-11-12 11:47:06 PM  
Oh well - she had a short but excellent run as majority leader. She did good.
 
2012-11-12 11:49:59 PM  
I'm so glad that septuagenarians are waiting in the wings to lead us out of the fog of WWI.

Jesus f*ck... Can we at least get people who know how to operate a smart phone or a remote control?
 
2012-11-12 11:51:42 PM  

DamnYankees: Oh well - she had a short but excellent run as majority leader. She did good.


I agree. But this might be a good time to step down. The Dems don't have a majority of the House, so she would have to wait at least two years for the opportunity to become Speaker again. This way, someone else can start lining up to gat a shot at the gavel should the Democrats take over again in 2014 or 2016.
 
2012-11-12 11:53:40 PM  

propasaurus: This way, someone else can start lining up to gat a shot at the gavel should the Democrats take over again in 2014 or 2016.


Can we please make it someone who didn't watch Leave it to Beaver in primetime?
 
2012-11-12 11:53:49 PM  
I thought that said beatboxing, and I was at first very happy.
 
2012-11-12 11:54:43 PM  

NewportBarGuy: propasaurus: This way, someone else can start lining up to gat a shot at the gavel should the Democrats take over again in 2014 or 2016.

Can we please make it someone who didn't watch Leave it to Beaver in primetime?


fark you, sonny. I watched Leave it to Beaver. Wait, I'm not in the House. Never mind.
 
2012-11-12 11:55:28 PM  

NewportBarGuy: propasaurus: This way, someone else can start lining up to gat a shot at the gavel should the Democrats take over again in 2014 or 2016.

Can we please make it someone who didn't watch Leave it to Beaver in primetime?


Run for office, kid
 
2012-11-12 11:58:05 PM  

propasaurus: DamnYankees: Oh well - she had a short but excellent run as majority leader. She did good.

I agree. But this might be a good time to step down. The Dems don't have a majority of the House, so she would have to wait at least two years for the opportunity to become Speaker again. This way, someone else can start lining up to gat a shot at the gavel should the Democrats take over again in 2014 or 2016.


Yah but if that person is Steny Hoyer....Ugh.

Pelosi has more balls than just about anyone in congress. It would be a shame to lose her leadership to someone who will, undoubtably, be lesser.
 
2012-11-12 11:58:54 PM  

propasaurus: fark you, sonny. I watched Leave it to Beaver. Wait, I'm not in the House. Never mind.


Look, let's compromise. That blonde bimbo that Bush made press secretary didn't know what the Cuban Miss;e Crisis was... How about we give Alan Grayson the gavel? Much lulz would be had. Or, in reality land... How about a freshman like Tammy Duckworth? They need new blood. This seniority sh*t has got to stop. They need to try a new tactic. Give the power to the young and see what they can make of it.

Sure, they will f*ck up here and there. But, this status quo must not stand, man.
 
2012-11-13 12:00:19 AM  

NewportBarGuy: propasaurus: fark you, sonny. I watched Leave it to Beaver. Wait, I'm not in the House. Never mind.

Look, let's compromise. That blonde bimbo that Bush made press secretary didn't know what the Cuban Miss;e Crisis was... How about we give Alan Grayson the gavel? Much lulz would be had. Or, in reality land... How about a freshman like Tammy Duckworth? They need new blood. This seniority sh*t has got to stop. They need to try a new tactic. Give the power to the young and see what they can make of it.

Sure, they will f*ck up here and there. But, this status quo must not stand, man.


I would not be mad at Speaker Grayson.
 
2012-11-13 12:01:02 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Run for office, kid


Be careful what you wish for.
 
2012-11-13 12:06:00 AM  

propasaurus: I would not be mad at Speaker Grayson.


Except he's not in congress anymore. Wasn't he voted out in '10?
 
2012-11-13 12:09:15 AM  

Ambivalence: Except he's not in congress anymore. Wasn't he voted out in '10?


He just got voted back in, much to the surprise of me. He snuck back in there. He's going to raise some sh*t.
 
2012-11-13 12:11:55 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Ambivalence: Except he's not in congress anymore. Wasn't he voted out in '10?

He just got voted back in, much to the surprise of me. He snuck back in there. He's going to raise some sh*t.


Yup, just re-elected last week.
 
2012-11-13 12:12:04 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Ambivalence: Except he's not in congress anymore. Wasn't he voted out in '10?

He just got voted back in, much to the surprise of me. He snuck back in there. He's going to raise some sh*t.


Sweet! I didn't even know he was running again.
 
2012-11-13 12:21:14 AM  
The Right has demonized her for no reason other than that she had power. It was painful to watch. But maybe some new blood would at least divert their ridiculous attacks from her. I thank her for her service, and hope the Dems can put up someone who has at least some of her fight in them.
 
2012-11-13 12:23:17 AM  

revrendjim: The Right has demonized her for no reason other than that she had power. It was painful to watch. But maybe some new blood would at least divert their ridiculous attacks from her. I thank her for her service, and hope the Dems can put up someone who has at least some of her fight in them.


You should know better than that. The enemy is the enemy regardless of what name or face they have. republicans wouldn't be any kinder to anyone else in that position.
 
2012-11-13 12:28:07 AM  
Anyone but Steny Hoyer. He was fellating the phone companies when they passed the amnesty bill.
 
2012-11-13 01:39:28 AM  
Why Pelosi stepping down sucks:

lexleader.net
 
2012-11-13 01:45:42 AM  

The RIchest Man in Babylon: Why Pelosi stepping down sucks:

[lexleader.net image 470x587]


Whenever I see those flag pins with the little dots on them I can't help but wonder if they're hidden cameras. Why do some flag pins have those dots anyway?
 
2012-11-13 01:46:44 AM  
All politics aside, she always looked like an ill-kempt character from Death Becomes Her

Maybe she will use the extra time to audition for a part in The Walking Dead????
 
2012-11-13 01:49:54 AM  
Good. She was a very effective Speaker and she knew Washington well, but she's too polarizing to hold such a position of power. I'm sure the Republicans will get to work on demonizing her replacement on day one, but Pelosi's negatives were far too high to be a face of the party. And yeah, even Steny Hoyer would be better in that regard.
 
2012-11-13 01:53:12 AM  

NobleHam: Good. She was a very effective Speaker and she knew Washington well, but she's too polarizing to hold such a position of power. I'm sure the Republicans will get to work on demonizing her replacement on day one, but Pelosi's negatives were far too high to be a face of the party. And yeah, even Steny Hoyer would be better in that regard.


For someone who doesn't really know who Steny Hoyer is, why the hate/disdain for him? Legitimately curious.
 
2012-11-13 01:55:17 AM  
About time. At least we might get someone younger in there. I'm not saying age is a bad thing, but let's face it, she has been in there so long that she needs to let some younger ideas come into play.

Just my opinion
 
2012-11-13 01:57:00 AM  
I hate her.
 
2012-11-13 01:57:28 AM  

revrendjim: The Right has demonized her for no reason other than that she had power. It was painful to watch. But maybe some new blood would at least divert their ridiculous attacks from her. I thank her for her service, and hope the Dems can put up someone who has at least some of her fight in them.


That and her farktard statement about having to pass the bill to find out what's in it. Other than that massive bs no I can't think of many reasons the right might hate her sooooo much.

//She is a strong leader but I am still not so sure she can be trusted. But I feel that way about almost every political entity.
 
2012-11-13 02:03:09 AM  

yousaywut: revrendjim: The Right has demonized her for no reason other than that she had power. It was painful to watch. But maybe some new blood would at least divert their ridiculous attacks from her. I thank her for her service, and hope the Dems can put up someone who has at least some of her fight in them.

That and her farktard statement about having to pass the bill to find out what's in it. Other than that massive bs no I can't think of many reasons the right might hate her sooooo much.

//She is a strong leader but I am still not so sure she can be trusted. But I feel that way about almost every political entity.


Here we go.
 
2012-11-13 02:03:16 AM  
this is the same person that offered jail for those with no health care

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/66879-pelosi-bill-ja i l-for-no-insurance
 
2012-11-13 02:03:17 AM  
Perhaps if Romney had won he would have put her in his binder to be taken out for his purposes. Since he didn't, she is relegated to either stepping down or fighting aginst the constitution that our founding father (notice I didn't say MOTHERS) created. Hopefully she will get on the House kitchen committee and make Boehner a sammich and bring him a beer when he wants one. About time she learned her place.
 
2012-11-13 02:06:11 AM  

bindlestiff2600: this is the same person that offered jail for those with no health care

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/66879-pelosi-bill-ja i l-for-no-insurance


...By Dick Morris
 
2012-11-13 02:06:29 AM  

NobleHam: Good. She was a very effective Speaker and she knew Washington well, but she's too polarizing to hold such a position of power. I'm sure the Republicans will get to work on demonizing her replacement on day one, but Pelosi's negatives were far too high to be a face of the party. And yeah, even Steny Hoyer would be better in that regard.


Any replacement will instantly be hit by all the same attacks as she was, maybe even more so. They went after Pelosi because she was an easier target than Obama. After his reelection, he's still a hard target, so they'll resort to going after whoever the Democratic congressional leaders are.
 
2012-11-13 02:06:33 AM  
She is good. Intelligent, knowledgable, pragmatic w/o ever losing sight of the ideal, able to work across lines and still be the partisan cheerleader. Pelosi is a skilled politician in an era of ham-fisted, ideological oafs.
 
2012-11-13 02:13:19 AM  

yousaywut: revrendjim: The Right has demonized her for no reason other than that she had power. It was painful to watch. But maybe some new blood would at least divert their ridiculous attacks from her. I thank her for her service, and hope the Dems can put up someone who has at least some of her fight in them.

That and her farktard statement about having to pass the bill to find out what's in it. Other than that massive bs no I can't think of many reasons the right might hate her sooooo much.

//She is a strong leader but I am still not so sure she can be trusted. But I feel that way about almost every political entity.


Except that it was a single line taken out of a longer speech, and completely out of context. She was urging the Senate to pass a bill so that the two bills could be reconciled, and the final bill produced. It was a sensible thing she said.

"In the fall of the year," Pelosi said today, "the outside groups...were saying 'it's about abortion,' which it never was. 'It's about 'death panels,'' which it never was. 'It's about a job-killer,' which it creates four million. 'It's about increasing the deficit'; well, the main reason to pass it was to decrease the deficit." Her contention was that the Senate "didn't have a bill." And until the Senate produced an actual piece of legislation that could be matched up and debated against what was passed by the House, no one truly knew what would be voted on. "They were still trying to woo the Republicans," Pelosi said of the Senate leadership and the White House, trying to "get that 60th vote that never was coming. That's why [there was a] reconciliation [vote]" that required only a simple majority.

"So, that's why I was saying we have to pass a bill so we can see so that we can show you what it is and what it isn't," Pelosi continued. "It is none of these things. It's not going to be any of these things." She recognized that her comment was "a good statement to take out of context." But the minority leader added, "But the fact is, until you have a bill, you can't really, we can't really debunk what they're saying...."
 
2012-11-13 02:15:40 AM  

maddermaxx: yousaywut: revrendjim: The Right has demonized her for no reason other than that she had power. It was painful to watch. But maybe some new blood would at least divert their ridiculous attacks from her. I thank her for her service, and hope the Dems can put up someone who has at least some of her fight in them.

That and her farktard statement about having to pass the bill to find out what's in it. Other than that massive bs no I can't think of many reasons the right might hate her sooooo much.

//She is a strong leader but I am still not so sure she can be trusted. But I feel that way about almost every political entity.

Except that it was a single line taken out of a longer speech, and completely out of context. She was urging the Senate to pass a bill so that the two bills could be reconciled, and the final bill produced. It was a sensible thing she said.

"In the fall of the year," Pelosi said today, "the outside groups...were saying 'it's about abortion,' which it never was. 'It's about 'death panels,'' which it never was. 'It's about a job-killer,' which it creates four million. 'It's about increasing the deficit'; well, the main reason to pass it was to decrease the deficit." Her contention was that the Senate "didn't have a bill." And until the Senate produced an actual piece of legislation that could be matched up and debated against what was passed by the House, no one truly knew what would be voted on. "They were still trying to woo the Republicans," Pelosi said of the Senate leadership and the White House, trying to "get that 60th vote that never was coming. That's why [there was a] reconciliation [vote]" that required only a simple majority.

"So, that's why I was saying we have to pass a bill so we can see so that we can show you what it is and what it isn't," Pelosi continued. "It is none of these things. It's not going to be any of these things." She recognized that her comment was "a good statement to take out of context." But the minority leader a ...


She didn't build that.
 
2012-11-13 02:16:56 AM  

yousaywut: revrendjim: The Right has demonized her for no reason other than that she had power. It was painful to watch. But maybe some new blood would at least divert their ridiculous attacks from her. I thank her for her service, and hope the Dems can put up someone who has at least some of her fight in them.

That and her farktard statement about having to pass the bill to find out what's in it. Other than that massive bs no I can't think of many reasons the right might hate her sooooo much.

//She is a strong leader but I am still not so sure she can be trusted. But I feel that way about almost every political entity.


Ms. Pelosi was saying that the GOP has spread so many farking lies and so much misinformation about what was in the bill that the only way for you to know what was in the bill was to step away from the media that had poisoned the discourse and read the goddamn bill yourself. The context makes it crystal farking clear. Of course, the GOP's opinion of context is roughly the exact clipped statement and nothing else for Democrats and every possible string of words of any length both before and after the clipped statement for Republicans, so take that for what you will.

bindlestiff2600: this is the same person that offered jail for those with no health care

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/66879-pelosi-bill-ja i l-for-no-insurance


Not this stupid shiat again...
 
2012-11-13 02:23:12 AM  

BalugaJoe: I hate her.


I predict this will be the mildest negative sentiment offered of Ms Pelosi in this thread.
 
2012-11-13 02:28:28 AM  
Good riddance. I'm a moderate Republican, but I dislike Nancy Pelosi with the fervor of a red-blooded conservative. I'm sure that conservative antipathy accounts for much of her appeal amongst liberals.

In general, we need less partisan hackery, less circus freak governance, and more leadership.
 
2012-11-13 02:30:35 AM  

maddermaxx: Any replacement will instantly be hit by all the same attacks as she was, maybe even more so.


She's from San Fransisco, and she's a woman. Those two are both very sins in the eyes of the right. If they put a white, straight, ex-military male in that position, maybe one whose son and grandson are military operatives who served in Iraq, maybe he might only get lambasted for being a weak pantywaist coward.
 
2012-11-13 02:33:00 AM  
A. Cage match between Pelosi and McConnell. (my money's on Pelosi)

B. Get a female with charisma into congress. I vote for my old friend liz cockburn


www.gq.com

/You go little girl
 
2012-11-13 02:33:30 AM  

maddermaxx: yousaywut: revrendjim: The Right has demonized her for no reason other than that she had power. It was painful to watch. But maybe some new blood would at least divert their ridiculous attacks from her. I thank her for her service, and hope the Dems can put up someone who has at least some of her fight in them.

That and her farktard statement about having to pass the bill to find out what's in it. Other than that massive bs no I can't think of many reasons the right might hate her sooooo much.

//She is a strong leader but I am still not so sure she can be trusted. But I feel that way about almost every political entity.

Except that it was a single line taken out of a longer speech, and completely out of context. She was urging the Senate to pass a bill so that the two bills could be reconciled, and the final bill produced. It was a sensible thing she said.

"In the fall of the year," Pelosi said today, "the outside groups...were saying 'it's about abortion,' which it never was. 'It's about 'death panels,'' which it never was. 'It's about a job-killer,' which it creates four million. 'It's about increasing the deficit'; well, the main reason to pass it was to decrease the deficit." Her contention was that the Senate "didn't have a bill." And until the Senate produced an actual piece of legislation that could be matched up and debated against what was passed by the House, no one truly knew what would be voted on. "They were still trying to woo the Republicans," Pelosi said of the Senate leadership and the White House, trying to "get that 60th vote that never was coming. That's why [there was a] reconciliation [vote]" that required only a simple majority.

"So, that's why I was saying we have to pass a bill so we can see so that we can show you what it is and what it isn't," Pelosi continued. "It is none of these things. It's not going to be any of these things." She recognized that her comment was "a good statement to take out of context." But the minority leader a ...


So she was taken out of context? She recognized the statement was bad and she should feel bad about it.

I don't particularly like or dislike her but that statement was really retarded in any context. If she had said something more in the line of When the Senate passes a bill we can see what's in it......then it wouldn't have been taken out of context and slapped around like a red headed step child.

/and I still wouldn't trust her any more than any other politician

/Bunch of beady eyed narcissists anyhow.
 
2012-11-13 02:38:49 AM  

yousaywut: maddermaxx: yousaywut: revrendjim: The Right has demonized her for no reason other than that she had power. It was painful to watch. But maybe some new blood would at least divert their ridiculous attacks from her. I thank her for her service, and hope the Dems can put up someone who has at least some of her fight in them.

That and her farktard statement about having to pass the bill to find out what's in it. Other than that massive bs no I can't think of many reasons the right might hate her sooooo much.

//She is a strong leader but I am still not so sure she can be trusted. But I feel that way about almost every political entity.

Except that it was a single line taken out of a longer speech, and completely out of context. She was urging the Senate to pass a bill so that the two bills could be reconciled, and the final bill produced. It was a sensible thing she said.

"In the fall of the year," Pelosi said today, "the outside groups...were saying 'it's about abortion,' which it never was. 'It's about 'death panels,'' which it never was. 'It's about a job-killer,' which it creates four million. 'It's about increasing the deficit'; well, the main reason to pass it was to decrease the deficit." Her contention was that the Senate "didn't have a bill." And until the Senate produced an actual piece of legislation that could be matched up and debated against what was passed by the House, no one truly knew what would be voted on. "They were still trying to woo the Republicans," Pelosi said of the Senate leadership and the White House, trying to "get that 60th vote that never was coming. That's why [there was a] reconciliation [vote]" that required only a simple majority.

"So, that's why I was saying we have to pass a bill so we can see so that we can show you what it is and what it isn't," Pelosi continued. "It is none of these things. It's not going to be any of these things." She recognized that her comment was "a good statement to take out of context." But the minor ...


I assume you criticized Obama for directly quoting John McCain in his 2008 campaign by saying "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose" once Mitt Romney aired his ads charing Obama said that about the economy under his stewardship?
 
2012-11-13 02:46:24 AM  

Serious Black: yousaywut: maddermaxx: yousaywut: revrendjim: I assume you criticized Obama for directly quoting John McCain in his 2008 campaign by saying "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose" once Mitt Romney aired his ads charing Obama said that about the economy under his stewardship?

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uh huh? Why would you make this assumption? Are we talking about Obama or Mccain or any other political figure who can have something they said quoted in a negative fashion by someone else?

//BS assumption is BS.

 
2012-11-13 02:50:12 AM  
Maybe she wants to get a little closer to local politics.

i1231.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-13 02:51:20 AM  

yousaywut: Are we talking about ... any other political figure who can have something they said quoted in a negative fashion by someone else?


You mean like Pelosi?
 
2012-11-13 02:53:12 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: yousaywut: Are we talking about ... any other political figure who can have something they said quoted in a negative fashion by someone else?

You mean like Pelosi?


Yeah like her:)
 
2012-11-13 02:56:00 AM  
If only they'd legalized pot in her home state she could spend her time hotboxing.
 
2012-11-13 03:03:42 AM  

BalugaJoe: I hate her.


nice, nice.
 
2012-11-13 03:09:47 AM  

wildcardjack: If only they'd legalized pot in her home state she could spend her time hotboxing.


You don't think she's got a medical card and recommendation? Come on man, she's from San Francisco. Weed pretty much is legal in California, especially the Bay Area, her home.
 
2012-11-13 03:09:50 AM  

yousaywut: Serious Black: I assume you criticized Obama for directly quoting John McCain in his 2008 campaign by saying "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose" once Mitt Romney aired his ads charing Obama said that about the economy under his stewardship?

uh huh? Why would you make this assumption? Are we talking about Obama or Mccain or any other political figure who can have something they said quoted in a negative fashion by someone else?

//BS assumption is BS.


Yes. What I'm talking about specifically is an ad Mitt Romney released on November 22, 2011. The ad included a segment from Barack Obama's speech in New Hampshire on October 15, 2008. Here's what Barack Obama said:

"Even as we face the most serious economic crisis of our time; even as you are worried about keeping your jobs or paying your bills or staying in your homes, my opponent's campaign announced earlier this month that they want to "turn the page" on the discussion about our economy so they can spend the final weeks of this election attacking me instead. Senator McCain's campaign actually said, and I quote, 'if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose.'"

Here's what Mitt Romney implied Barack Obama said in his 2011 ad:

"If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose."

All of a sudden, without the context, it sounds like a bad statement. Barack Obama is admitting that the economy is crap and he has to cover it up to get re-elected. He should have recognized the statement was bad, and he should feel bad about having said it.
 
2012-11-13 03:13:07 AM  
Washington Post: [Nancy Pelosi] is considering ending her historic 10-year reign as Democratic leader after the second disappointing election in a row for her caucus.

Washington Post in another article: "According to numbers compiled by the Post's great Dan Keating, Democrats have won roughly 48.8 percent of the House vote, compared to 48.47 percent for Republicans."

If not for gerrymandering, that would not have been a disappointing result: "Without the friendly map, Democrats would have likely have gained significantly more than the seven seats it looks like they will add."
 
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