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(Herald Tribune (SW Florida))   You might think that electrical outlet next to a picnic table in the park is there for public use. Think again. It's a trap   (heraldtribune.com) divider line 48
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2012-11-12 10:18:17 PM
7 votes:
So, let me get this straight. The city is willing to charge your electric car for free but you better not charge your phone and be homeless. What a sad place.
2012-11-12 10:12:53 PM
7 votes:
It is not difficult for homeless advocates to point out that people with money are treated differently by city officials: for those able to afford an electric car, Sarasota offers free electrical power at vehicle charging stations throughout the city, including one at City Hall.

Fark you, Sarasota. Oh, and the police report pretty clearly indicates that the homeless guy got charged because he told the cop to "find something better to do". Once again, a citizen is charged with Contempt of Cop. At least this time it didn't involve aggravated assault or murder.

/damn 95% of bad cops making the 5% look bad
2012-11-12 11:04:09 PM
6 votes:

This About That: OK, let's suppose this cop was an asshole (which he would kind-of have to be to roust a homeless guy for 2 cents worth of electricity. Still, self preservation requires an understanding of the situation. You have to understand it from the cop's point of view. The cop is going to win. The less sh*t you talk, the less his winning will cost you. That seems pretty simple. Now consider the case when a cop encounters s pet dog. The dog is not smarter than the cop, so he doesn't know what danger it is in, but it has mastered the art of reading voice tone and body language in humans. It sees a belligerent human and reacts correctly, warning the belligerent human away. Belligerent human shoots the dog, even if it weigh 2 pounds and is no real threat. This is because the copy has to win. Has to. If he doesn't he will be back with 20 cops and heavy weapons. So, unless it is your mission to lose in the game of life to cops, just shut the hell up and unplug your phone. Be smarter than the dog.You can usually (no, really, kids) assume that the cop is doing his in a difficult job, as he sees it. Even if you think he is a jerk, give him the benefit of the doubt. Usually he deserves it, and if he doesn't, you will lose anyhow. Beyond that, argue the point with the nice folks on your local city council.


Truer words never spoken.

Cop wants to fark your wife, well you just better hold her legs amIright? He's gonna do it anyway, so you might as well not give him reason to shoot you too. Infact offer up your daughter for dessert. You may not have any dignity but at least you'll be free to live exactly how the police tell you to.
2012-11-12 10:50:56 PM
5 votes:
OK, let's suppose this cop was an asshole (which he would kind-of have to be to roust a homeless guy for 2 cents worth of electricity. Still, self preservation requires an understanding of the situation. You have to understand it from the cop's point of view. The cop is going to win. The less sh*t you talk, the less his winning will cost you. That seems pretty simple. Now consider the case when a cop encounters s pet dog. The dog is not smarter than the cop, so he doesn't know what danger it is in, but it has mastered the art of reading voice tone and body language in humans. It sees a belligerent human and reacts correctly, warning the belligerent human away. Belligerent human shoots the dog, even if it weigh 2 pounds and is no real threat. This is because the copy has to win. Has to. If he doesn't he will be back with 20 cops and heavy weapons. So, unless it is your mission to lose in the game of life to cops, just shut the hell up and unplug your phone. Be smarter than the dog.You can usually (no, really, kids) assume that the cop is doing his in a difficult job, as he sees it. Even if you think he is a jerk, give him the benefit of the doubt. Usually he deserves it, and if he doesn't, you will lose anyhow. Beyond that, argue the point with the nice folks on your local city council.
2012-11-12 11:28:35 PM
4 votes:

This About That: OK, let's suppose this cop was an asshole (which he would kind-of have to be to roust a homeless guy for 2 cents worth of electricity. Still, self preservation requires an understanding of the situation. You have to understand it from the cop's point of view. The cop is going to win. The less sh*t you talk, the less his winning will cost you. That seems pretty simple. Now consider the case when a cop encounters s pet dog. The dog is not smarter than the cop, so he doesn't know what danger it is in, but it has mastered the art of reading voice tone and body language in humans. It sees a belligerent human and reacts correctly, warning the belligerent human away. Belligerent human shoots the dog, even if it weigh 2 pounds and is no real threat. This is because the copy has to win. Has to. If he doesn't he will be back with 20 cops and heavy weapons. So, unless it is your mission to lose in the game of life to cops, just shut the hell up and unplug your phone. Be smarter than the dog.You can usually (no, really, kids) assume that the cop is doing his in a difficult job, as he sees it. Even if you think he is a jerk, give him the benefit of the doubt. Usually he deserves it, and if he doesn't, you will lose anyhow. Beyond that, argue the point with the nice folks on your local city council.


You never closed your first paren, so I kept reading your paragraph and waiting for you to get back to a main point. Very frustrating.
2012-11-12 11:17:17 PM
4 votes:
i.imm.io
2012-11-12 11:15:14 PM
4 votes:
Dear retards at the city: If you don't want people using outlets, don't put them out in public. You can't go and put one out in the open in a public park and then say it isn't public. Either disconnect and remove the outlet, or just deal with the hundred-ish dollars a year it costs you to operate it.
2012-11-12 11:09:14 PM
4 votes:

This About That: I do not understand this seemingly irresistible urge to mouth off to a cop.


I don't understand this seemingly irresistible urge to lie down belly-up every time a city-sanctioned bully throws his weight around.
2012-11-12 11:17:03 PM
3 votes:
In his arrest report, Frangioni wrote that he told Kersey that the "theft of city utilities will not be tolerated during this bad economy."

"During this bad economy" must be the new "In this post 9/11 world".
2012-11-12 11:11:47 PM
3 votes:

Charlie Freak: Didn't I hear it costs less an $1/year to charge an iPhone? "In this bad economy" my ass. As long as they're not causing a disturbance and yield to anyone who has reserved the shelter, let them charge away.


Electricity costs about $0.10/KWH here. The iPhone battery is 3.7v at 1.44 amp-hrs, or 0.0053 KWH. Let's say the charging process is only 50% efficient- he still only used all of A TENTH OF A PENNY of electricity here, presuming it was a full charge. $0.0010656, to be exact.

I hope this measure against the freeloading homeless has fixed your budget crunch. Asshole.
2012-11-12 11:07:23 PM
3 votes:
In his arrest report, Frangioni wrote that he told Kersey that the "theft of city utilities will not be tolerated during this bad economy."

Oh what the fark ever, Sgt. A-Hole. Perhaps you should unplug that coffee pot at the station. No one was using it, and it just sucks up taxpayer-paid city utilities.

Go bark up another tree. You busted a guy with no home or money. Well aren't you goddamn special.
2012-11-12 10:37:01 PM
3 votes:

This About That: I do not understand this seemingly irresistible urge to mouth off to a cop.


I think it's closely related to mouthing off to an asshole when one gets in your face.
2012-11-12 10:36:01 PM
3 votes:

This About That: I do not understand this seemingly irresistible urge to mouth off to a cop.


He wasn't so much mouthing off to a cop as mouthing off to a douchebag. That's practically a national sport these days.
2012-11-12 11:36:56 PM
2 votes:

OnlyM3: This About That

I do not understand this seemingly irresistible urge to mouth off to a cop.
You explain white knighting these law breaking bullies and I'll explain the mouthing off.


We pay police to enforce laws that we vote on, or empower our elected officials to enact, because we feel that these laws are necessary to the functioning of our society. And we empower the police to enforce these laws because we as society don't want a bunch of bums, thugs and teenagers hanging around the park all day long, endlessly recharging their phones, iPods and computers on electricity that we the taxpayers ultimately pay for. Now, usually, people told "Don't plug in your phone at that outlet, it's not for public use," will say "Sorry, officer, I didn't realize it," or at worst, mutter, "Screw you, pig" under their breath, while they unplug their device, and move on.

SOME people seem to think that they have to do more than that. These are the ones the cops wind up arresting, beating, and often doing worse than that to. I have to admit, I don't get it either. Nobody likes being told what to do; but then nobody likes going to jail either. Is it really so hard to just say "Sorry, I didn't realize it," and move on? Is it really so hard to be polite for two minutes and NOT ARGUE as opposed to screaming at a guy who, whatever philosophical differences you've got with the police, has no power to change the law he is paid to enforce? If your options are a) be polite and don't go to jail or b) piss off the cop and go to jail, why pick b)?

I await your answer with interest.
2012-11-12 11:19:37 PM
2 votes:
Dear Subby,

Stupid cops + Florida = Florida tag.
2012-11-12 11:17:40 PM
2 votes:
When I left south Florida, the mayor of Tampa was arresting people feeding the homeless, and arresting the homeless for being in public parks, where the people were feeding the homeless. She also shut down all the soup kitchens.

I would describe Pam Iorio as a "coont".
2012-11-12 11:14:47 PM
2 votes:

Charlie Freak: Didn't I hear it costs less an $1/year to charge an iPhone? "In this bad economy" my ass. As long as they're not causing a disturbance and yield to anyone who has reserved the shelter, let them charge away.


Probably pretty close.

A typical basic phone, like most prepaid ones that a homeless man might have, use 1/400th of a kilowatt/hour per charge. And a kilowatts/hour costs about ten cents. The officer wasted more money in gas stopping his car than the homeless guy would have cost the city in a month of charging.
2012-11-12 11:14:39 PM
2 votes:
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4 pages about charging a cell phone? No thanks..
2012-11-12 10:29:40 PM
2 votes:
I do not understand this seemingly irresistible urge to mouth off to a cop.
2012-11-12 10:24:07 PM
2 votes:
Didn't I hear it costs less an $1/year to charge an iPhone? "In this bad economy" my ass. As long as they're not causing a disturbance and yield to anyone who has reserved the shelter, let them charge away.
2012-11-13 02:57:40 AM
1 votes:

wildsnowllama: Buffet: What the Fark is a homeless person doing with a cell phone?? Get a home first.

Last time I checked, homes cost WAY more than a phone. Though I haven't seen AT&T's prices for a couple of years...


I have a prepaid phone. It's a POS but I only have to put like $20 on it every few months to keep it running. It is possible to have a cell phone and NOT pay hundreds of dollars a month for it.
2012-11-13 12:42:53 AM
1 votes:

cig-mkr: whidbey: cig-mkr: Maybe the guy had a free phone, don't laugh some low income folks actually get free service.

I didn't realize it was funny.

You don't know that homeless people can have cellphones?

but where do they charge them if they are homeless?


I don't know, the same places us non-homeless folk do when nobody's looking? Any unguarded outlet in an airport, coffee shop, school, office building, park, etc...?
2012-11-13 12:32:47 AM
1 votes:

Tman144: I too am interested in why the cops harass you so much. Are you a big guy with a lot of tats or something? I had friends in high school who got harassed a lot, but they were punks and skins, and so drew a lot of attention to themselves.


I can't speak for skullkrusher, but once they've harassed you once you're in the computer and you're going to harassed again every time they run your plates.

Pretty soon, they recognize the car and you're screwed.
2012-11-13 12:21:39 AM
1 votes:
Oh...and for those who don't know... the "Obama Phone" program started sometime in the'90s.
2012-11-13 12:19:15 AM
1 votes:

EKU Colonel: I just find it odd that he was charging a cell phone because it is not something one would expect a homeless person to prioritize


Communication is the first thing you should prioritize if you're homeless. If you're homeless, a phone is your most valuable tool for NOT being homeless. No phone number, no email... no way you're getting off the street.
2012-11-13 12:10:29 AM
1 votes:

LavenderWolf: skullkrusher: poot_rootbeer: This About That: I do not understand this seemingly irresistible urge to mouth off to a cop.

The first 11 times I get harassed by a dick with a badge when I'm doing nothing illegal, I will be all no sir, I'm sorry sir, thank you.

The twelfth time I might "mouth off".

unless you're guilty of being black, what the fark are you doing to get harassed by the cops 11 times?

You don't think that shiat happens? I get stopped and harassed at least every other month. I'm polite, employed, well-groomed, white bread as it gets. And in Canada no less. I had 6 guns drawn on me when I was 14. Had a cop try to intimidate me into confessing to a crime I didn't commit. Despite having a 100% clean record and having assisted the police on several occasions.


Cops are generally, though not always, looking to start trouble. In my experience.


happened to me once. Open container, got locked up for the night for it. Absolute concerted effort on the part of the Worcester PD to crack down on college kids except I was 23 at the time and back visiting. I can see it happening as a one off sort of thing but if you're constantly getting harassed by the cops and you're a regular joe white guy, you're probably doing it wrong
2012-11-13 12:07:44 AM
1 votes:

sparkeyjames: The thing that disturbs me most about this article is that there is a disabled homeless person
living in a public park. Does not Social Security disability cover a person who is disabled by a stroke?


Here's my CSB.

My wife had a stroke in 2004. It turns out that she sustained a pretty severe TBI from it. It's a long story, but she's never going to work again.

After filing for disability, Social Security denied it instantly. Then they denied the appeal- without actually having looked at it. The response letter they sent had zero facts other than my address and the date correct, but there was no recourse other than to lawyer up.

So we did.

And now we wait 18 months and hope we don't get the administrative law judge that only grants 5% of cases. And that's assuming that nothing else happens along the way. When we get denied at the next stage, we appeal and go further, and eventually we have to fight it out in Federal court.

The funny thing is- my wife's last job was at Social Security.

The system is royally and totally farked.
2012-11-13 12:05:28 AM
1 votes:

Derigiberble: sparkeyjames: The thing that disturbs me most about this article is that there is a disabled homeless person
living in a public park. Does not Social Security disability cover a person who is disabled by a stroke?

Likely it does but there's no way to force somebody to take SSDI and where would they get the check sent?

We are in trouble. Any aid program will be opposed by the FYGM crowd, despite the fact that it is actually cheaper in the long run to just straight up give them housing (living outside is hell on your health and that results in a ton of ER visits). So we end up with the current situation where local government and police try to make life for the homeless as unpleasant as possible in the hope that they go away. The ideal situation would be to offer all the help possible, including a place to live where one can drink their liver into swiss cheese if someone so chooses, and then force anyone who refuses to take it into the treatment system it on the grounds to a mentally competent person wouldn't voluntarily live under a bridge. But because there has been so much bad faith attempts to "fix" the homeless problem under that guise the ability of cities to force people into treatment or housing is severely limited due to successful lawsuits from the ACLU and other groups. Also you'd end up with a massive free rider problem as every single city in the US would pay for one-way bus fare to any city that implements such a program to make the homeless not their problem anymore. The complete systemic solution is blocked, but more safety nets would certainly help and are badly needed. In the mean time people need to stop giving handouts to panhandlers and direct it to local charities instead.

It really sucks because those that are chronically homeless quite frankly give homelessness a bad image, if that makes sense. The guy you see every day on the corner isn't the true face of the majority of homeless: it is the woman and kids living out of a car in th ...


Many "homeless" don't want housing. They've got a different day-to-day psychology of living on the street and where-you-find-it. They won't be able to maintain a home even if you give them one.

There's a lot of good reasons homeless avoid the homeless shelters, even. No dogs, no secure storage for the shopping cart and no way to "watch it", you'll get your iPhone stolen. Made the case that camping under a bridge with some other guys you "know" is far safer than dealing with the drunks and thieves around the shelters you'd be forced to sleep next to.
2012-11-13 12:04:43 AM
1 votes:

EKU Colonel: I kind of skimmed through the comments, but did anyone ask why a homeless guy has a phone? How does he pay for it? Who is he expecting calls from? Is it an Obamaphone, because I'm pretty sure you still need a real address for those.

I'm hopefully that he got it because he's expecting a call back on some applications he's filled out, but the cynic in me doubts that


Ok, let's play along and do the math. Let's say it's a Verizon phone, which can get pretty pricey. It costs him what, $100/month? Now let's say that he chooses not to get a phone and instead rent an apartment so that he's not one of those icky homeless people. All he has to do is find an apartment which is $100/month! Voila!

Of course that doesn't include food, utilities, transportation (to get to a job so he doesn't have to be homeless), and a small amount for entertainment (human beings can not be expected to sit and stare at the walls constantly when they aren't working). So, given this scenario, can you locate an apartment which costs $100/month to rent?

Ok, let's get more realistic and assume it's a prepaid device which can be had for maybe $20/month. Yes, I agree that most of the time a phone is a luxury, but in this case the guy is homeless with nothing. He doesn't have jack-shiat. If he can scrape up 20 bucks a month then thats enough to have a phone and nowhere near enough to have a place to crash. Do you expect him to "save up" and pay rent every 8 months (assuming $400/month)? I don't know how lucrative begging is, so I may be wrong on this assumption.

I don't know his particular situation, he may be lazy, he may be stubborn, or he may have mental issues which happens to be VERY common among homeless people. If he's living in a park and still has a cell phone I doubt laziness applies here.

"Obamaphone"...I am not a fan of the president but whenever I see anyone attach the word "Obama" to the front of anything they don't like I automatically snicker because it's so damn cute to watch you partisan guys bicker back and forth. And by partisan I mean the elephants and the donkeys.

In the end though, I find it absolutely awesome that a cop made the conscious decision to arrest someone for using an outlet sitting in plain view to consume probably less than a penny, and all you wanna know is why the guy had the audacity to have a phone.
2012-11-13 12:00:20 AM
1 votes:

Wulfman: C_Canuk: Cop wants to fark your wife, well you just better hold her legs amIright? He's gonna do it anyway, so you might as well not give him reason to shoot you too. Infact offer up your daughter for dessert. You may not have any dignity but at least you'll be free to live exactly how the police tell you to.


Yeah, fight that fight. But so long as the officer is not held personally accountable in situations like this, people will do the cost/benefit and realize it's usually better to stfu and do whatever they're told. So in all seriousness, how does that get changed?


With a critical mass of people not STFU and doing what they're told. The police budget gets spent, requiring additional tax dollars having to be spent, the majority of people get furious that the pig's power trips are causing higher taxes and they punish the politicians that don't curb it at the polls, or the guillotine. I'm fine with either.

If enough people go out and say "NO! You Move" eventually things will change. Letting the cops step on your neck emboldens them and erodes your rights and security.

Seriously it's so bad in the US they shoot your pets with impunity, shoot people and don't even apologize when they get the address wrong.

You might want to start making a fuss about it before it gets worse.

Cops should be afraid of the voting power of the law abiding majority not the other way around.
2012-11-12 11:59:15 PM
1 votes:

sparkeyjames: The thing that disturbs me most about this article is that there is a disabled homeless person
living in a public park. Does not Social Security disability cover a person who is disabled by a stroke?


Likely it does but there's no way to force somebody to take SSDI and where would they get the check sent?

We are in trouble. Any aid program will be opposed by the FYGM crowd, despite the fact that it is actually cheaper in the long run to just straight up give them housing (living outside is hell on your health and that results in a ton of ER visits). So we end up with the current situation where local government and police try to make life for the homeless as unpleasant as possible in the hope that they go away. The ideal situation would be to offer all the help possible, including a place to live where one can drink their liver into swiss cheese if someone so chooses, and then force anyone who refuses to take it into the treatment system it on the grounds to a mentally competent person wouldn't voluntarily live under a bridge. But because there has been so much bad faith attempts to "fix" the homeless problem under that guise the ability of cities to force people into treatment or housing is severely limited due to successful lawsuits from the ACLU and other groups. Also you'd end up with a massive free rider problem as every single city in the US would pay for one-way bus fare to any city that implements such a program to make the homeless not their problem anymore. The complete systemic solution is blocked, but more safety nets would certainly help and are badly needed. In the mean time people need to stop giving handouts to panhandlers and direct it to local charities instead.

It really sucks because those that are chronically homeless quite frankly give homelessness a bad image, if that makes sense. The guy you see every day on the corner isn't the true face of the majority of homeless: it is the woman and kids living out of a car in the walmart parking lot because her abusive partner finally snapped, or the teenager couch surfing because his parents found out he's gay.
2012-11-12 11:58:58 PM
1 votes:
My idea for Jacksonville since our homeless problem is out of control is build a recycling center (since we don't have one) with on site living quarters. Build it far enough into the county where it's a pain in the ass to walk back downtown. If you're arrested for Pan handling then you're taken there to do labor. Nothing too hard, mostly sorting and such. They'll give you food, shelter, and a stippened as long as you work. If you don't want to, fine; you're released and it's a good 20 miles back to your bench downtown.

It solves the homeless problem, jail problem (because now they lock them up for 24 hours, feed them, and release them back downtown), it puts people to work and may help some get back on their feet, and it helps the environment. Right now the only solution our council created is say pan handling is a crime and you get 3 hots and a cot for getting hauled in.
2012-11-12 11:45:49 PM
1 votes:
Arrest is virtually equivalent to conviction to many employers. Welcome to the electronic plantation.

/yea i read the book too
2012-11-12 11:45:34 PM
1 votes:
If anyone read the arrest report you would know the cop WALKED out of the substation and saw a group of people smoking what appeared to be, omg, marijuana. the cop then arrested him for smoking in a park, a clear violation of city codes. Altho i find arresting instead of ticketing a bit heavyhanded. Then after the arrest the dude asks the cop to get his phone and the cop sees that it is charging on the other side of the power pole and that the COVER was broken off. Now I'm not one to take a cops side very often but i believe the cop could have most likely arrested everybody there and charged them with destruction of govt property! and might have got a conviction!
2012-11-12 11:43:21 PM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: If your options are a) be polite and don't go to jail or b) piss off the cop and go to jail, why pick b)?


Because sometimes the cop is just throwing his weight around and being a power-tripping dick? I'm not homeless and about as straight as they come, but I've experienced it a few times. Respect earns respect and some officials have no idea how to treat people with respect.
2012-11-12 11:40:49 PM
1 votes:

poot_rootbeer: This About That: I do not understand this seemingly irresistible urge to mouth off to a cop.

The first 11 times I get harassed by a dick with a badge when I'm doing nothing illegal, I will be all no sir, I'm sorry sir, thank you.

The twelfth time I might "mouth off".


unless you're guilty of being black, what the fark are you doing to get harassed by the cops 11 times?
2012-11-12 11:39:23 PM
1 votes:

LoneVVolf: It's almost as if the city doesn't want vagrants squatting in the public parks...


Surely the police could be doing something better than making sure a homeless guy isn't sitting on a park bench.
2012-11-12 11:38:56 PM
1 votes:
If the city didn't want its outlets being used, they could simply have shut off the power.

Then the man wouldn't have received a charge.
2012-11-12 11:33:10 PM
1 votes:
"If I sit down, they come up, ask for ID and run my name," said Fred Hall, 51, a North Carolina native. "If I spread a blanket and read a book, they arrest me for sleeping. It's crazy. They do the weirdest things to us."

It's almost as if the city doesn't want vagrants squatting in the public parks...
2012-11-12 11:22:33 PM
1 votes:
maybe it was an ObamaPhone!

Seriously, sounds like this a-hole cop got a paycut because of declining tax revenues related to reduced property values, and wants to project that anger onto liberals, democrats, homeless ne'r-do-wells, and immigrants. (or as he probably refers to them in at cop poker night as "dirty Mexicans"). 

Here's a hint, chief, the problem isn't the homeless stealing half a cent of power, it's the rich a-holes stealing millions and you are to stupid and obsequious to figure out you're fighting the wrong battle.
2012-11-12 11:19:06 PM
1 votes:

sparkeyjames: This About That: I do not understand this seemingly irresistible urge to mouth off to a cop.

I think it's closely related to mouthing off to an asshole when one gets in your face.


You know who else enjoys shouting at assholes?

seoulbeats.com
2012-11-12 11:18:57 PM
1 votes:
So the gummint will buy you a cell phone, because it's a modern necessity because of the death of the public phone. However, they'll lock you up if you charge it. I wonder if they lock up picnickers who use that outlet to power their boom box? As others have pointed out, the cost of the arrest itself (much less incarceration) exceeded the cost of the electricity. I hope ACLU forces this city to make public outlets available to everyone to charge portable devices at multiple points throughout the city, to promote public safety. And more than a few more at the airport.
2012-11-12 11:15:21 PM
1 votes:

Charlie Freak: Didn't I hear it costs less an $1/year to charge an iPhone? "In this bad economy" my ass. As long as they're not causing a disturbance and yield to anyone who has reserved the shelter, let them charge away.


In a perfect world the Judge would solemnly listen to both sides of the case and then toss the cop in jail for contempt. There is actually a common law concept which is the court doesn't bother with trifling things.
2012-11-12 11:10:53 PM
1 votes:

Smingleigh: If we let a homeless person charge his or her phone with public electricity, what next? Can they moor their yachts on public piers? Should they land their planes on public airfields? It's a slippery slope, and there isn't an easy answer to the problem.


static.flickr.com

Hollywood discovered that if you are helpful towards the homeless, they start congregating in your parks. Word travels fast.
2012-11-12 11:06:58 PM
1 votes:

HotWingAgenda: BarkingUnicorn: sparkeyjames: The thing that disturbs me most about this article is that there is a disabled homeless person
living in a public park. Does not Social Security disability cover a person who is disabled by a stroke?

Yeah, but it's just money. She's looking for an assisted-living place that will take her. Maybe they're full in Sarasota. Maybe she's a problem nobody wants.

Why on earth would anyone want a problem?


To get paid. A job is just someone else's problem that he'll pay you to solve.
2012-11-12 09:41:39 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-11-12 09:38:02 PM
1 votes:
The thing that disturbs me most about this article is that there is a disabled homeless person
living in a public park. Does not Social Security disability cover a person who is disabled by a stroke?
2012-11-12 09:09:41 PM
1 votes:
Caught drinking from a public water fountain? You better believe that a taserin'.
 
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