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(Herald Tribune (SW Florida))   You might think that electrical outlet next to a picnic table in the park is there for public use. Think again. It's a trap   (heraldtribune.com ) divider line
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2012-11-13 12:51:44 AM  

LavenderWolf: skullkrusher: What a LavenderWolf might look like

Got a kick out of that. Here is what I look like right now.


http://imgur.com/jQewe


That's actually pretty funny. Your dental hygiene seems to be better though.
 
2012-11-13 12:53:42 AM  

sethen320: LavenderWolf: skullkrusher: What a LavenderWolf might look like

Got a kick out of that. Here is what I look like right now.


http://imgur.com/jQewe

That's actually pretty funny. Your dental hygiene seems to be better though.


Yeah I don't look my best right now but hardly "arrest this obvious deviant" levels.
 
2012-11-13 12:56:16 AM  

sethen320: skullkrusher: sethen320: cig-mkr: whidbey: cig-mkr: Maybe the guy had a free phone, don't laugh some low income folks actually get free service.

I didn't realize it was funny.

You don't know that homeless people can have cellphones?

but where do they charge them if they are homeless?

The park, silly!

their Escalade's cigarette lighter?

Only if they have a USB adapter. Those things are expensive!!!


not anymore. Ussain Soetoro Barack adapters are free in the Obamanation
 
2012-11-13 12:57:07 AM  

LavenderWolf: sethen320: LavenderWolf: skullkrusher: What a LavenderWolf might look like

Got a kick out of that. Here is what I look like right now.


http://imgur.com/jQewe

That's actually pretty funny. Your dental hygiene seems to be better though.

Yeah I don't look my best right now but hardly "arrest this obvious deviant" levels.


yeah you don't look like you should be a target. Certainly not like that Aqualung guy I posted before
 
2012-11-13 01:00:34 AM  
alright, it's been fun but it's time for wee skullkrushers to sleep. sethen320, you're on call to bail out LavenderWolf if need be until I get up

night kids
 
2012-11-13 01:02:08 AM  

skullkrusher: alright, it's been fun but it's time for wee skullkrushers to sleep. sethen320, you're on call to bail out LavenderWolf if need be until I get up

night kids


Sorry dude, I'm checking out as well. Good night everyone, have fun, stay out of trouble and please be sure to charge your phones in a government-approved location.
 
2012-11-13 01:02:17 AM  
A trap? As in finding a male plug when you're expecting a female outlet?
 
2012-11-13 01:02:25 AM  

skullkrusher: alright, it's been fun but it's time for wee skullkrushers to sleep. sethen320, you're on call to bail out LavenderWolf if need be until I get up

night kids


I love you.
 
2012-11-13 01:02:31 AM  

Charlie Freak: Didn't I hear it costs less an $1/year to charge an iPhone? "In this bad economy" my ass. As long as they're not causing a disturbance and yield to anyone who has reserved the shelter, let them charge away.


Supposedly, a buck would get you two years of charging from dead to full power, once per day, every day.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410954,00.asp

(although with either phone in the "study", you should be able to charge less often than that with light to moderate usage. And of course, utility costs will vary by location and time of year; the rate used is supposedly the national average for the US from June 2012.)
 
2012-11-13 01:04:50 AM  

gibbon1: Charlie Freak: Didn't I hear it costs less an $1/year to charge an iPhone? "In this bad economy" my ass. As long as they're not causing a disturbance and yield to anyone who has reserved the shelter, let them charge away.

In a perfect world the Judge would solemnly listen to both sides of the case and then toss the cop in jail for contempt. There is actually a common law concept which is the court doesn't bother with trifling things.


Common law....how quaint. We're under Roman-style Civil Procedure now, though.
 
2012-11-13 01:13:42 AM  

Lunaville: Mija: sparkeyjames: The thing that disturbs me most about this article is that there is a disabled homeless person
living in a public park. Does not Social Security disability cover a person who is disabled by a stroke?

You cannot live on the small amount that disability pays. In many staes you have to wait years for housing assistance. If you have a criminal record of any kind you could be denied. I have worked with the homeless. Don't you forget either that Republicans don't even want the homeless to have help with phones. Without a phone you cannot get help or work.

Yes, I have an elderly relative who receives $620 per month in disability. Her monthly probation payment is $330 per month. She is supposed to support herself on the remainder. As a felon, she does not qualify for most government housing.


Why the fark did she break the law and not steal enough?
 
2012-11-13 01:16:33 AM  
LavenderWolf

Dilly Dilly
 
2012-11-13 01:19:47 AM  

Gyrfalcon: whatshisname: Gyrfalcon: If your options are a) be polite and don't go to jail or b) piss off the cop and go to jail, why pick b)?

Because sometimes the cop is just throwing his weight around and being a power-tripping dick? I'm not homeless and about as straight as they come, but I've experienced it a few times. Respect earns respect and some officials have no idea how to treat people with respect.

That's true. But that's my point. The cop may be an asshole. He probably is being an asshole. But if you can be polite and not go to jail WHY are you choosing the alternative? What are you going to get out of the encounter, except an arrest record? You are going to get zero life points for treating the cop like an asshole back while you're getting cuffed and thrown into the back of his cruiser, and even if the arrest is bogus (like this one was) and you are not charged, guess what? You still have an arrest record and that will never go away.

Which is fine if you plan never to have a job that requires you to disclose if you have ever been arrested (as opposed to convicted); or if you never need a new apartment that runs a background check, or have a credit check run, or get a traffic ticket again. Trust me, I got arrested in 1986, long before records were computerized, and I was never charged (and hence never convicted) and that thing still causes me issues. And I'm a white middle-aged female with no other negative cop interactions. I'd hate to be a young black male nowadays with a couple of minor arrests--so tell me again why mouthing off to a dick cop and turning a minor harassment into a misdemeanor arrest is so much more important than shutting up for a minute or two, letting the cop win the cock-sparring contest, and walking away free?


Mouthing off to a cop is one of those things where you simply cannot win. What's the percentage in it? I mean, for the 1% of the time a cop realizes he is being a jerk and backs off. Otherwise, a cop marks you as an asshole lawbreaker and you end up like the dummies on COPS.
 
2012-11-13 01:19:47 AM  
Homeless people have cellphones now? I am so out of touch with homeless people.

If I were to use that outlet, would I get arrested? if not the cop needs to be put in jail. Not fired, put in jail.
 
2012-11-13 01:22:17 AM  

C_Canuk: This About That: OK, let's suppose this cop was an asshole (which he would kind-of have to be to roust a homeless guy for 2 cents worth of electricity. Still, self preservation requires an understanding of the situation. You have to understand it from the cop's point of view. The cop is going to win. The less sh*t you talk, the less his winning will cost you. That seems pretty simple. Now consider the case when a cop encounters s pet dog. The dog is not smarter than the cop, so he doesn't know what danger it is in, but it has mastered the art of reading voice tone and body language in humans. It sees a belligerent human and reacts correctly, warning the belligerent human away. Belligerent human shoots the dog, even if it weigh 2 pounds and is no real threat. This is because the copy has to win. Has to. If he doesn't he will be back with 20 cops and heavy weapons. So, unless it is your mission to lose in the game of life to cops, just shut the hell up and unplug your phone. Be smarter than the dog.You can usually (no, really, kids) assume that the cop is doing his in a difficult job, as he sees it. Even if you think he is a jerk, give him the benefit of the doubt. Usually he deserves it, and if he doesn't, you will lose anyhow. Beyond that, argue the point with the nice folks on your local city council.

Truer words never spoken.

Cop wants to fark your wife, well you just better hold her legs amIright? He's gonna do it anyway, so you might as well not give him reason to shoot you too. Infact offer up your daughter for dessert. You may not have any dignity but at least you'll be free to live exactly how the police tell you to.


I colour green the funny Farkers. I'm tinting you yellow for calling it like it should be.

/been saying this same thing for years
//your newsletter, subscription, etc.
///be polite but stand on your rights
////my grandda threw a village cop off the porch and got an apology - decades ago, of course
//Great Slashies of Doom!!!
 
2012-11-13 01:32:09 AM  
When I was on the streets we knew this crackhead we called Mad Mike. Mad Mike was always acquiring random items and was very generous. One night he had a shopping cart overflowing with bottles of wine, and another night he walked up and asked us if we were hungry. He had "found" a popcorn maker and a bag of popcorn seeds. He walked to the island in the middle of the street, popped open an outlet cover and started making popcorn. The group of us homeless kids and Mad Mike sitting in the middle of the street eating fresh popcorn is an awesome memory. Good thing we weren't in stupid Florida or we'd probably still be in prison.
 
2012-11-13 01:38:31 AM  
This is why they get called pigs.
 
2012-11-13 01:39:32 AM  

HempHead: Oznog: Charlie Freak: Didn't I hear it costs less an $1/year to charge an iPhone? "In this bad economy" my ass. As long as they're not causing a disturbance and yield to anyone who has reserved the shelter, let them charge away.

Electricity costs about $0.10/KWH here. The iPhone battery is 3.7v at 1.44 amp-hrs, or 0.0053 KWH. Let's say the charging process is only 50% efficient- he still only used all of A TENTH OF A PENNY of electricity here, presuming it was a full charge. $0.0010656, to be exact.

I hope this measure against the freeloading homeless has fixed your budget crunch. Asshole.

If you own a Tesla, you can charge it free at the city hall.


application.denofgeek.com
Tesla weapons not available outside of District 9.
 
2012-11-13 01:43:10 AM  
What the Fark is a homeless person doing with a cell phone?? Get a home first.
 
2012-11-13 01:47:10 AM  
"Unplug that phone!"

"Why? It's a public park with a publicly accessible A/C outlet."

"Because I am an insufferable, fat, steroid crazed bag of festering pus and I said so and if you don't, I'll empty thins gun into your f*cking skull and f*ck your rotting corpse and get away with it, because you're homeless so nobody loves you."

"Um, okey dokey."
 
2012-11-13 01:59:41 AM  
See, a lot of cops are just bullies with badges.
 
2012-11-13 02:04:10 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The city also took all the benches out of a popular public park because people in a nearby condo complained that homeless people were using the benches.

Sarasota, both the city and the elderly retirees, farking hate poor people.


It is a problem. The reality is that too many of the homeless are crazy--it's better to avoid contact with them. The voters want them run out of town for this very reason.

We need some better answers.

Off the top of my head, how about shelters that have small private rooms to avoid the security problem?
 
2012-11-13 02:04:41 AM  
OK, I grew up in Sarasota and this kind of shiat doesn't surprise me. Sarasota cops just tend to be dicks like that.

Two cases in point:

In the early Sixties, a friend of mine, then 12 years old, was riding his bike home. He was riding on the sidewalk, as the school and the police used to tell us to do back then. He came to this trailer park that had a fence around it and it ran right up to the curb of the city street on the east border. He had to stop, open a gate on the sidewalk, enter the trailer park, close the gate and ride on and then repeat the same at the other end. Now, the problem was that the trailer park had a posted speed limit of 5 mph. As he is riding along on his one speed Schwinn, a cop car cruises by on the city street and pulls over at the exit gate of the park and tells my friend to stop. He then writes him a ticket for going 8 mph in a 5 mph zone. Twelve years old, too young for a drivers license and he gets a farking speeding ticket while on a me speed bike.

Late Sixties. Sarasota cops decide there are too damn many kids hanging about in the downtown and they start enforcing an old statute that says that if you are downtown and have less than $20 cash on you and no specific reason to be downtown, you will get cited as a vagrant and get a ticket. Fortunately, this came to thew attention of a group of famous writers, MacKinley Cantor and John D. McDonald being the most prominent. They took out a full page ad in the paper advising that they were all in violation daily as they would meet at a downtown coffeeshop to shoot the shiat and such and they had no real reason other than hanging out for that and that they rarely had $20 between them on them at the time, so just arrest us or stop this shiat. It stopped.

Sarasota, where harassment by cops is a looong tradition.
 
2012-11-13 02:10:51 AM  

Buffet: What the Fark is a homeless person doing with a cell phone?? Get a home first.


Newsflash! You do not need a home to have a cell phone.
 
2012-11-13 02:14:32 AM  

LavenderWolf: skullkrusher: What a LavenderWolf might look like

Got a kick out of that. Here is what I look like right now.


http://imgur.com/jQewe


I think you have a bit more subversive a look than you seem to believe.
 
2012-11-13 02:27:00 AM  

Buffet: What the Fark is a homeless person doing with a cell phone?? Get a home first.


Last time I checked, homes cost WAY more than a phone. Though I haven't seen AT&T's prices for a couple of years...
 
2012-11-13 02:41:41 AM  

Maul555: Mija: sparkeyjames: The thing that disturbs me most about this article is that there is a disabled homeless person
living in a public park. Does not Social Security disability cover a person who is disabled by a stroke?

You cannot live on the small amount that disability pays. In many staes you have to wait years for housing assistance. If you have a criminal record of any kind you could be denied. I have worked with the homeless. Don't you forget either that Republicans don't even want the homeless to have help with phones. Without a phone you cannot get help or work.

lying partisan coont...


wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

Touch a nerve?
 
2012-11-13 02:57:21 AM  

LavenderWolf: skullkrusher: LavenderWolf: HotWingAgenda: LavenderWolf: I had 6 guns drawn on me when I was 14

That sounds like a scene from a Tarantino film.

It felt so surreal. Friend and I waiting for a third friend, around the corner from my decidedly suburban home. Cop car skids to a sideways stop just feet away, followed by two more to box us in from other directions. Two cops in each car pop out, pistols aimed at us. We had done NOTHING.

what did they think you'd done?

Somebody got stabbed at a local bar.


So obviously let's arrest the children standing nonchalantly 4 blocks away.


I was taking the bus in Southern California when I was in my 20's... bus driver pulled over due to "mechanical difficulties"
the mechanical difficulties were the 3 squad cars behind the bus with 2 cops each; doors open an weapons drawn. also, the other 2 officers walking toward all of the bus patrons, then to me calmly asking me to turn around and place my hands on my head... it was creepy... no sirens, just lights. and guns.

seems I looked just like some dude that escaped from Chino State Pen the week before and his turf was the area I live in (still live near there) nearly a foot taller, 20 years younger and about 60lbs heavier, but hey I wasn't detained or arrested. (the best part for me was the 20 minutes leading up to the incident while waiting for the bus to arrive I kept thinking "sure are a lot of cops around here"; I was only a block from the main police station, so I dismissed it)

/csb 
//might have only been six cops... it has been 18 years or so...
 
2012-11-13 02:57:40 AM  

wildsnowllama: Buffet: What the Fark is a homeless person doing with a cell phone?? Get a home first.

Last time I checked, homes cost WAY more than a phone. Though I haven't seen AT&T's prices for a couple of years...


I have a prepaid phone. It's a POS but I only have to put like $20 on it every few months to keep it running. It is possible to have a cell phone and NOT pay hundreds of dollars a month for it.
 
2012-11-13 03:01:08 AM  
Let's see ... Phone plugged in, petty theft of city utilities. Unplug the phone, felony tampering with evidence. Decisions, decisions..
 
2012-11-13 03:22:18 AM  

Oznog: Charlie Freak: Didn't I hear it costs less an $1/year to charge an iPhone? "In this bad economy" my ass. As long as they're not causing a disturbance and yield to anyone who has reserved the shelter, let them charge away.

fredbox: Let's see ... Phone plugged in, petty theft of city utilities. Unplug the phone, felony tampering with evidence. Decisions, decisions..

Electricity costs about $0.10/KWH here. The iPhone battery is 3.7v at 1.44 amp-hrs, or 0.0053 KWH. Let's say the charging process is only 50% efficient- he still only used all of A TENTH OF A PENNY of electricity here, presuming it was a full charge. $0.0010656, to be exact.

I hope this measure against the freeloading homeless has fixed your budget crunch. Asshole.


I'm sure the 500 bucks in bail money would have fixed a lot.
/dnr all comments
 
2012-11-13 03:36:49 AM  

notatrollorami: LavenderWolf: skullkrusher: What a LavenderWolf might look like

Got a kick out of that. Here is what I look like right now.


http://imgur.com/jQewe

I think you have a bit more subversive a look than you seem to believe.


If you think I look "subversive" at all then you might as well start wearing a badge.


/that was not a compliment
//go to the ghetto sometime
 
2012-11-13 03:42:49 AM  

LavenderWolf: notatrollorami: LavenderWolf: skullkrusher: What a LavenderWolf might look like

Got a kick out of that. Here is what I look like right now.


http://imgur.com/jQewe

I think you have a bit more subversive a look than you seem to believe.

If you think I look "subversive" at all then you might as well start wearing a badge.


/that was not a compliment
//go to the ghetto sometime


Then again, I have seen that gang walking around in Cosby sweaters and khakis, lately...
 
2012-11-13 04:09:47 AM  

SpaceBison: Homeless people have iPhones nowadays? fark, I can't even afford an iPhone.

/poor college student.


There's no mention of iPhones in the article, just cell phones. You can buy a prepaid cell phone for as little as $10. Even if some of them did have iPhones it's entirely possible they were acquired before the people became homeless. If you're trying to get a job so you can get off the streets and be able to afford a place to live, you need a reliable method for prospective employers to contact you.

As a matter of fact, the woman who was using the electric outlet to charge her wheelchair stated she was recently homeless after her business failed.
 
2012-11-13 04:14:18 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: SpaceBison: Homeless people have iPhones nowadays? fark, I can't even afford an iPhone.

/poor college student.

There's no mention of iPhones in the article, just cell phones. You can buy a prepaid cell phone for as little as $10. Even if some of them did have iPhones it's entirely possible they were acquired before the people became homeless. If you're trying to get a job so you can get off the streets and be able to afford a place to live, you need a reliable method for prospective employers to contact you.

As a matter of fact, the woman who was using the electric outlet to charge her wheelchair stated she was recently homeless after her business failed.


I don't understand why the outlets are there if they don't want them used.
Cut the homeless some slack for crissakes. The cop was just being a dick and it sounds like he was shaking the guy down for the 500 bail/extortion.
 
2012-11-13 04:17:27 AM  
why the hell can't Rick Scott get this guy a job?
 
2012-11-13 04:20:18 AM  

cig-mkr: whidbey: cig-mkr: Maybe the guy had a free phone, don't laugh some low income folks actually get free service.

I didn't realize it was funny.

You don't know that homeless people can have cellphones?

but where do they charge them if they are homeless?


In my area I've seen them charging them at the public library. St Vincent de Paul also assists homeless adults through the Eugene Service Station.
 
2012-11-13 04:25:38 AM  

AbbeySomeone: I don't understand why the outlets are there if they don't want them used.
Cut the homeless some slack for crissakes. The cop was just being a dick and it sounds like he was shaking the guy down for the 500 bail/extortion.


Agreed.

I'd be willing to bet that the cops aren't hassling those who have a place to live.
 
2012-11-13 04:42:11 AM  

AbbeySomeone: I don't understand why the outlets are there if they don't want them used.
Cut the homeless some slack for crissakes. The cop was just being a dick and it sounds like he was shaking the guy down for the 500 bail/extortion.


The outlets are more than likely for use by people who have a permit to use the area.

/Not supporting cop, just saying.
 
2012-11-13 05:09:22 AM  
Though I applaud the judge for having a brain and throwing the case out, at the same time one thing really sticks in the back of my head:

You're homeless.... WHY DO YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE?! McDonalds can hire you on the spot and the local tech firm, once they smell the urine and garbage, isn't going to offer you the open CEO position.
 
2012-11-13 05:10:31 AM  
are you farking kidding me?
 
2012-11-13 05:17:32 AM  

This About That: OK, let's suppose this cop was an asshole (which he would kind-of have to be to roust a homeless guy for 2 cents worth of electricity. Still, self preservation requires an understanding of the situation. You have to understand it from the cop's point of view. The cop is going to win. The less sh*t you talk, the less his winning will cost you. That seems pretty simple. Now consider the case when a cop encounters s pet dog. The dog is not smarter than the cop, so he doesn't know what danger it is in, but it has mastered the art of reading voice tone and body language in humans. It sees a belligerent human and reacts correctly, warning the belligerent human away. Belligerent human shoots the dog, even if it weigh 2 pounds and is no real threat. This is because the copy has to win. Has to. If he doesn't he will be back with 20 cops and heavy weapons. So, unless it is your mission to lose in the game of life to cops, just shut the hell up and unplug your phone. Be smarter than the dog.You can usually (no, really, kids) assume that the cop is doing his in a difficult job, as he sees it. Even if you think he is a jerk, give him the benefit of the doubt. Usually he deserves it, and if he doesn't, you will lose anyhow. Beyond that, argue the point with the nice folks on your local city council.


Yeah, but in this case the cop lost. The case got thrown out and the cop's life is significantly inconvenienced because everyone from the top to the bottom knows he's a massive düch. The cop's bosses hate the guy right now, and this will likely stain his career, because the last thing a boss wants is an underling who creates unnecessary work and bad blood. Then there's the pending ACLU lawsuit. The lesson learned by his peers and any cop that reads this story is that there are limits to how big a dick you can be. Without stories like this, douchebaggery would be far more rampant than it is.

So your advice to keep your head down is not necessarily a good way to avoid being arrested if you're part of a targeted minority and have no means to avoid harassment. It's a great way for people who have mobility (to remove themselves from the situation) and homes to go (so as to exercise your fourth amendment rights). But this guy doesn't. Sometimes getting your day in court is your best option.
 
2012-11-13 05:17:37 AM  

Okoboji: Though I applaud the judge for having a brain and throwing the case out, at the same time one thing really sticks in the back of my head:

You're homeless.... WHY DO YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE?! McDonalds can hire you on the spot and the local tech firm, once they smell the urine and garbage, isn't going to offer you the open CEO position.


Says the person who has obviously never been homeless.

McDonalds does not hire on the spot, in fact they have an application process like every other sizeable company.
 
2012-11-13 05:43:36 AM  

Okoboji: Though I applaud the judge for having a brain and throwing the case out, at the same time one thing really sticks in the back of my head:

You're homeless.... WHY DO YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE?! McDonalds can hire you on the spot and the local tech firm, once they smell the urine and garbage, isn't going to offer you the open CEO position.


There are more people applying for jobs at McDonald's than there are job openings. And they do not hire on the spot. You have to apply and be interviewed as with any other job. And you have to have a way for them to contact you if they read your application and decide to subsequently interview you. That's why a phone is necessary.

And I said before, you can get a prepaid cell phone for cheap. I've seen some of the older Tracfone models for as little as $8.00. They're just simple, basic phones. No data plans, no monthly fees, etc.
 
2012-11-13 06:30:37 AM  

LavenderWolf: Okoboji: Though I applaud the judge for having a brain and throwing the case out, at the same time one thing really sticks in the back of my head:

You're homeless.... WHY DO YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE?! McDonalds can hire you on the spot and the local tech firm, once they smell the urine and garbage, isn't going to offer you the open CEO position.

Says the person who has obviously never been homeless.

McDonalds does not hire on the spot, in fact they have an application process like every other sizeable company.


i have a B.S. in Computer Science and i doubt McDonald's would even hire me
due to a 1 and a half year gap in my resume
 
2012-11-13 06:37:00 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: LavenderWolf: Okoboji: Though I applaud the judge for having a brain and throwing the case out, at the same time one thing really sticks in the back of my head:

You're homeless.... WHY DO YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE?! McDonalds can hire you on the spot and the local tech firm, once they smell the urine and garbage, isn't going to offer you the open CEO position.

Says the person who has obviously never been homeless.

McDonalds does not hire on the spot, in fact they have an application process like every other sizeable company.

i have a B.S. in Computer Science and i doubt McDonald's would even hire me
due to a 1 and a half year gap in my resume


Yep, I had that problem before I got my current job.

"What have you been doing for the last two years?"

"Looking for a job, doing whatever odd jobs I can find..."

"Next applicant please!"
 
2012-11-13 06:45:32 AM  

sparkeyjames: The thing that disturbs me most about this article is that there is a disabled homeless person
living in a public park. Does not Social Security disability cover a person who is disabled by a stroke?


Only if you can successfully get disability. Without a lawyer the adversarial system you have to deal with usually overlooks people like this.
 
2012-11-13 06:46:28 AM  

LavenderWolf: Framing the conversation in terms of "vagrants" and "squatting" just shows contempt.


Framing the conversation in terms of "vagrants" and "squatting" shows realism. Those are the appropriate words. Don't take the sting out of the situation, face it appropriately and honestly. Learn from the master. Yes, it's a comedy routine. It also makes a very valid point. Using the term "homeless" for vagrants makes it more palatable to the soft-hearted (and soft-headed) people, but it also makes it more difficult to address the problem realistically.

We, as a society, will never adequately take care of homeless people. We might bestir ourselves to address the problem of squatting vagrants.
 
2012-11-13 06:48:25 AM  
Cop clearly resented the Obamaphone.
 
2012-11-13 07:08:27 AM  

Aulus: OK, I grew up in Sarasota and this kind of shiat doesn't surprise me. Sarasota cops just tend to be dicks like that.


Sarasota, where harassment by cops is a looong tradition.


I grew up there too. I can confirm the tradition of Sarasota cops being dicks continues to this day.

One day my car overheated. I pulled over to the side of there road. Standing there hood open, steam blasting out all around me. Up pulls Johnny Law. I think "Oh good he might be able to help me." But no, he writes me a ticket because my plate had expired one day prior to the event. Then the cop drives off.

What a dick.
 
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