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(Badass Digest)   Turns out the 'Prometheus' you saw was not the 'Prometheus' that was planned. It was originally titled 'Alien: Engineers', took place on LV-426, acknowledged the stupidity of the scientists, and had a much better ending   (badassdigest.com ) divider line
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2012-11-12 10:05:30 PM  
5 votes:

OnlyM3: IlGreven


This is why we can't have good sci-fi.

No, not the hacking apart of the orgiinal script. The fanboys who tear absolutely everything apart if it isn't 100% perfect in their eyes.
We can't have good sci-fi because when someone makes crap the fans call them on it?

oookay then.


That's the problem with having stupid people write SF. Hard SF tries to ground itself in science, and then use that science as a foundation from which to speculate. That's why, when crap SF shows up, we slam it - because if it's easy enough to have a single SF fanboy tear it apart in a matter of minutes, well, your writers need to collaborate with someone that has half a clue, then rework their script accordingly.

For example, when I watch a movie about explorers taking a trillion-dollar mission to explore an exoplanet, I want people that, in the future, act as if they have more information that we do now. Currently, we map a planet before we choose a landing site. One of the reasons we've successfully landed rovers on Mars, including one the size of a friggin' car, is because we knew where we wanted them, why we wanted them there, and knew to the foot what those landing sites looked like - and we did this because we learned from the Apollo missions, where we did our best to map landing sites a half century earlier before we used a separate vehicle to land on the friggin' Moon.

I want to see continuity. This was a prequel to "Alien", yet the humanoid artificial lifeform in this movie looked, moved, sounded, and acted better than the humanoid artificial lifeform in "Alien", Really? We typically don't take huge steps backwards when it comes to technology. The interfaces and implementations in "Prometheus" were a damned sight more modern than the CRT-and-switch interfaces in "Alien", even though they were supposedly far older. Project Prometheus was, according to their own site, launched on 2081 - just 69 years from now. "Alien" takes place in 2122, 41 years after Prometheus launches, and yet their ship's interfaces and implementations look radically different, and much older, than what we saw in "Prometheus." What we saw in "Alien" supposedly took place 110 years in the future, but it looked positively ancient when compared with what was shown in "Prometheus". No continuity. Not even a little. We're not talking about "sexy" technology, either - everything from access panels to tools is radically different.

I want to see professionals. A crew that actually acts like this is a trillion-dollar mission - trained for the mission, with processes and protocols in place for dealing with all of the situations they instead fumbled and farked up in "Prometheus." We've been doing this for decades now, and there's no reason to doubt that the successful processes and protocols we've developed since the 1950s wouldn't be, in part or in whole, enacted here. Instead, we get the friggin' Keystone Kops in Space, with "scientists" acting like morons and "managers" acting like badly constructed stereotypes. The folks in "Alien" actually looked and sounded like they were trained for their jobs - it's just that their jobs didn't involve exploration of an exoplanet. The whole friggin' point of Project Prometheus was to explore an exoplanet, but they came off looking like complete morons. As characters, they were simply unbelieveable - as a SF fan, I couldn't open my window of disbelief wide enough to let that kind of stupidity in.

"Prometheus" was visually stunning, but the writing and plot was, quite simply, shiatty. It's yet another bad movie with good CGI, and a huge disappointment given the run-up to the movie.
2012-11-12 06:35:47 PM  
5 votes:

wildcardjack: Was I the only one who thought "If you have fusion plasma propulsion you don't need to crash into him, you just need to get him in your wake"?

They had a drive capable of single ship planet-to-planet transit. Those engines would have to be putting out gigawatts of energy.


Sadly, very few people in sci-fi have learned the Kzinti Lesson.
2012-11-12 06:33:45 PM  
5 votes:
I was really excited to see it, I even dragged my wife along, who is kinda meh on sci-fi movies, although she did enjoy "District 9". After "Prometheus" was done, I apologized and said I'd go see a rom-com as penance. 

I think the Farker above had it right. Damon Lindehof = Rob Liefeld.
2012-11-12 06:42:39 PM  
4 votes:

IlGreven: This is why we can't have good sci-fi.

No, not the hacking apart of the orgiinal script. The fanboys who tear absolutely everything apart if it isn't 100% perfect in their eyes.

You are why most major outlets go "fark it: LCD is cheaper and more profitable; plus we don't have crazed fanboys threatening to destroy us."


This is why we can't get good Sci-Fi. The people who get all butthurt when you point out one single solitary mistake that a movie makes, since all movies are 100% perfect and if you see something you don't quite understand, it's because you're the moran, not because the movie made a mistake. You are why Michael Bay keeps making movies because the Execs in Hollywood point to you and go "These people will defend us no matter what we do, so just make things blow up real good."
2012-11-12 08:06:23 PM  
3 votes:
Prometheus is now my baseline for what an average movie is.

I didn't exactly hate it, but at no point during the movie did I think 'i really like whats happening'.
2012-11-12 06:47:45 PM  
3 votes:

MorePeasPlease: The Space Jockeys should have not been just spacesuits for big white dudes. That alone makes me sad.


I know. I was expecting elephant aliens with lots of ribs. Instead I got pale translucent Space Aryans in ribbed suits. FAIL.
2012-11-12 06:31:30 PM  
3 votes:
Was I the only one who thought "If you have fusion plasma propulsion you don't need to crash into him, you just need to get him in your wake"?

They had a drive capable of single ship planet-to-planet transit. Those engines would have to be putting out gigawatts of energy.
2012-11-12 06:14:50 PM  
3 votes:

scottydoesntknow: I'm about a quarter of the way through the script (they just reached the star system), and it's already a hundred times better.


www-deadline-com.vimg.net

I swear, we are going to look back on this guy in a few years and are going to realize that he is the Rob Liefeld of scriptwriting. I've never been more let down by show than I was with the final season of Lost.
2012-11-12 08:42:15 PM  
2 votes:
Was David acting on orders to give the black ink stuff to that guy? Seemed like the boss had an idea of what was there already. Seemed they were trying to get an intact xenomorph like in the fourth? movie. But nothing else indicated the boss knew what was there. Did it even matter that the boss biatch was the daughter? When they said the medical bed was only for men, you knew that would come back as important, but there was zero reason to think weyland was its intended patient.

Had pretty much zero clue as to anyone's motivations In the film outside the main character. I'm guessing there was at least an hour cut out of the movie. The pilot and his officers at the end seemed to have a lot of in jokes or repoire. But they didn't build that during the movie. Also, he killed himself by crashing the ship because a woman he didn't really know told him to. The deleted scenes showed why, but the theatrical release was pretty much a do it (bad word for homosexual) threat by the chick.
2012-11-12 08:21:06 PM  
2 votes:
I liked Prometheus...but it was a huge disappointment. Damn, it could have been truly great. The movie seemed to try too hard to tie things in with the Alien franchise...rather than standing on it's own as a prequel.
2012-11-12 07:55:46 PM  
2 votes:
Scott is an idiot. Never again.
2012-11-12 07:49:41 PM  
2 votes:

Mad_Radhu: I swear, we are going to look back on this guy in a few years and are going to realize that he is the Rob Liefeld of scriptwriting. I've never been more let down by show than I was with the final season of Lost.


Lindelof is a golem risen up from the shiatty culture that birthed him. A half witted, barely conscious culture will always find this person in the aggregate of humanity.
2012-11-12 07:30:53 PM  
2 votes:

IlGreven: This is why we can't have good sci-fi.

No, not the hacking apart of the orgiinal script. The fanboys who tear absolutely everything apart if it isn't 100% perfect in their eyes.

You are why most major outlets go "fark it: LCD is cheaper and more profitable; plus we don't have crazed fanboys threatening to destroy us."


I liked Prometheus, plot holes and all.

The thing that bothered me the most was that after the one dude insulted both Noomi character's religion and femininity, they had sex.

Maybe it's just me, but that was the most unbelievable thing in the whole movie.
2012-11-12 07:10:49 PM  
2 votes:

Mad_Radhu: scottydoesntknow: I'm about a quarter of the way through the script (they just reached the star system), and it's already a hundred times better.

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I swear, we are going to look back on this guy in a few years and are going to realize that he is the Rob Liefeld of scriptwriting. I've never been more let down by show than I was with the final season of Lost.


I have to agree with this assessment. DL is not a good writer.
He's one of those who should probably write backwards so that he could close the loops he creates. Hugely overrated right now.
2012-11-12 06:44:51 PM  
2 votes:

MorePeasPlease: Ok, it still starts with the big white dudes.

The Space Jockeys should have not been just spacesuits for big white dudes. That alone makes me sad.


Yeah. Still learning the lessons of the Star Wars prequels.
2012-11-12 06:41:12 PM  
2 votes:
Ok, it still starts with the big white dudes.

The Space Jockeys should have not been just spacesuits for big white dudes. That alone makes me sad.
2012-11-12 06:39:15 PM  
2 votes:
Yeah the finished product sucked, but the original script can't be that much of a gem if it contains "...and THAT'S how the pyramids were built!"

fark. You.
2012-11-12 06:33:47 PM  
2 votes:

MagSeven: In the original version could Charlize Theron run in diagonals take off her top?


FTFY.
2012-11-12 06:29:34 PM  
2 votes:

The Gentleman Caller: The ship wasn't called Prometheus? Was it Serenity? Because that sure as hell looked like Serenity. Like "add-two-engines-and-call-it-a-day" Serenity.


The script has it as Magellan, a much better name for an exploratory ship.
2012-11-14 02:17:03 PM  
1 vote:
I love Prometheus. I can't wait for the sequel.

/best film of 2012, IMO
2012-11-13 01:32:10 AM  
1 vote:

bglove25: eaee12: One of the many things I didn't understand: goo + human= octopus monster. Octopus monster + big white guy= alien alien. Oh and the 2 morans runnin around lost "hey look, a giant worm with teeth, I'm gonna pet it." No one is that stupid.

Okay, this one I can explain. So, we know from the Alien movies that the Xenomorph takes on properties of the animal it infests. So, the Xenomorphs in the facility are asexual wormlike things because, yup, they seeped into the worms in the ground. Now, why doesn't it create a human when implanted in the girl? Well, as the script mentions a few times, she's sterile and can't have children. Also, once the goo seems to interact with an animal, it seems to go into it's face hugger phase (The worm is a facehugger). But the girl didn't get face hugged, so the weird abomination is the face hugger stage of a xenomorph that is basing its DNA on a sterile woman. So why does it turn into a regular looking Xenomorph at the end? well, it face hugs on a Engineer, which we know has almost identical DNA to humans, hence why the Xenomorph looks similar to, but slightly different from, the Alien from the original movies.


I thought that the squid turned giant face hugger was more a product of the fact it came from Holloway's already mutated sperm and just gestated inside her. She was the 'egg' for this version of the face hugger which is why she wasn't altered/tainted by it like some of the others.

As for the Engineer needing to wipeout humans with goo instead of an asteroid or whatever, it seemed like they were, if not religious, then at least heavily in to ritual. David likely had his head torn off because non-organic 'life' (or a simulation at least) was probably blasphemous to them.
2012-11-13 12:21:12 AM  
1 vote:

CujoQuarrel: As good an explanation as any.


Works for me. I knew that, by that point, I wanted to kill them all.

This movie was so utterly inconsistent and full of stupidity that I actually felt a little angry at the time wasted watching it.
2012-11-12 11:06:13 PM  
1 vote:
I liked Prometheus, kind of. For every stupid scene there is a pretty decent one (The med pod scene is the best, David at the star map, pretty much every David scene is good despite context being lacked).

For people who complain that it looks too new and Alien looks older after wards, I have a decent solution to explain that annoyance away. The reason Alien has more antiquated technology is: It's cheaper. Corporations will skimp at EVERY bottom line they possibly can, and for a bunch of low level peon miners or whatever workers they were in Alien, they get the BARE MINIMUM of advanced technology.

At one of my old jobs, we used a DOS based program for ordering stuff for customers. It was only in the last year they did an upgrade to Windows XP. That's right love, they replaced a 30 year old antiquated OS with an 11 year old antiquated OS.

So it doesn't surprise me in the least to see those kinds of computers in the future, and just reminds me how shiatty and evil corporations will be to save their bottom line. I think it's even more true now than in the 70s.
2012-11-12 11:03:25 PM  
1 vote:

scottydoesntknow: My issue is I left with more questions than answers.


Man, that's what I liked best about it.
2012-11-12 10:55:10 PM  
1 vote:

thecpt: I like this thread. Legitimate reasons to not like the movie and people who like the movie aren't trying to assert that those people are wrong, just that that didn't bother them. Faith restored.


Actual discourse - a rarity since the "September that never ended" - is always enjoyable.
2012-11-12 10:48:02 PM  
1 vote:

Austinoftx: pute kisses like a man: it sounds like all my problems are with the editing.... I admit, he kept the movie at a respectable time, so maybe the cuts were necessary. although, i don't mind a long movie if it is engrossing. for the most part, i was engrossed in the movie.

Okay, the problems aren't editing. The problems are inexcusable retardation.

The crew take their helmets off in the base at the first opportunity, as though there is no such thing as poison and contagion to worry about. These are supposed to be scientists. Then they howl.

The red-headed mineralogist who is in charge of mapping the base with his flying orbs... gets lost. A few scenes later, the Captain calls him for his position. Which he provides instantly. Yes, they're still quite in touch with the ship. Where there is a 3D image of the base appearing on the table, along with blobs showing the location of the teams. And he's still lost.

Later, the biologist who ran in terror from a safely dead alien wants to go pet a glistening, sticky live one. He calls it "Baby". I mean, we know he's gay, and he and his red headed buddy have been flirting with each other since they got thawed out, but really now.

These characters simply do not act like people! Nothing about what they do makes sense! And it's not from too many explanatory scenes being cut out. Visually, the movie was awesome. But everyone involved in the writing and editing should be blacklisted from making movies ever again.


Here's how I rationalize it: the cryo-sleep technology hadn't been perfected yet, and resulted massive brain damage to every human member of the crew.

Think about it. Suddenly all their actions make sense, because they all have brain damage.

It explains everything.
2012-11-12 10:24:11 PM  
1 vote:

Spanky_McFarksalot: I don't get all the Prometheus hate, I liked it. I've watched it half a dozen times so far.

Only 2 things that bother me are; 1. paintings on caves = aliens engineered us? how do u get there exactly? and 2. hey, this alien world is a weapon plant. huh?

Its a good movie, I'm willing to give them a sequel to answers some of the mysteries


I liked it miles better than Avatar.
2012-11-12 10:23:01 PM  
1 vote:
I don't get all the Prometheus hate, I liked it. I've watched it half a dozen times so far.

Only 2 things that bother me are; 1. paintings on caves = aliens engineered us? how do u get there exactly? and 2. hey, this alien world is a weapon plant. huh?

Its a good movie, I'm willing to give them a sequel to answers some of the mysteries
2012-11-12 09:54:42 PM  
1 vote:
Am I the only one who really liked Prometheus? Kinda surprised by all the hate here.
2012-11-12 09:52:22 PM  
1 vote:
Ok so I finished reading the script (had to go home and eat and all that)

MASSIVE SCRIPT SPOILERS

Main differences:
It happens on LV-426
Ship is named Magellan
Weyland only cares about the terraforming technology which was not brought up in the movie at all. Vickers is also not related, but does have big aspirations in the company
There is a reference to Engineer Jesus, but Watts (who was religious in the movie) laughs it off
The main archaeologists (Holliday & Watts) are very intelligent and extremely excited when they find the dead bodies, unlike the movie when he went all emo on discovery
There are a couple extra characters in the story, mainly scientists
Vickers also brigs 4 soldiers as bodyguards and protection, armed to the teeth.
Fifield and the other guy are given a toast for being stupid enough to get lost and left in the pyramid, pretty funny.
Would've been A LOT gorier than the movie, a lot. The med pod scene alone would've made some puke in the theaters
The Pyramids are terraforming devices, and they are made of living biological matter, capable of seeding worlds as long as they're fully terraformed. Kinda explains why stuff evolved (like the facehuggers)

David does not poison Holliday at all, but Holliday does die by falling deeper into the pyramid and getting facehugged by an evolved facehugger (I'm assuming the ones that escaped and killed the last Engineers, they never explain why that facehugger was different). He gets back to the ship, is about to do Watts, and ends up going into convulsions and chestbursted. The alien escapes (it's a weirder T-1000 like xenomorph) and ends up killing a bunch of the misc. crew.

BUT David is a huuuuge dick nonetheless. He figures out the Engineer ship is a doomsday ship named Juggernaut and it was meant to deliver a lethal payload of xenomorphs to Earth, but they were attacked and killed by their own creatures. David has 2 protocols, the first was to discover the terramorphing abilities, and the second was to eliminate the scientists. He grabs Watts, brings her to the "armoury" (where the ORIGINAL facehugger eggs are) and has her impregnated with an old school xenomorph.

Watts does use the med bay, but it's to remove the new alien, not a squid thing. The alien escapes through a grate and Watts is left in the med pod for hours (not minutes like the movie), and she gets crazy extensive surgery. When she awakes she sees a soldier coming in and he is killed by the alien. While he's being fed on, she slowly gets out, grabs his gun, and unloads on the alien, killing it.

The remaining crew (Vickers, Watts, a couple soldiers, and couple randoms) go in to find David because he locked the engine controls to get the fark off the planet. They find David, he resurrects an Engineer that was in stasis (last to survive massacre) and Engineer goes apeshiat, rips David's head off, and attacks the others. Most escape, but Vickers and a soldier find resurrected Fifield (he's much grosser than the movie) and he attacks. He mortally wounds soldier, jumps on Vickers, but soldier shoots him and he erupts acid all over Vickers, essentially melting her (she was a biatch anyway).

The Engineer gets to the captain's chair (like in 'Alien' where he's found) and starts to take off. Meanwhile Watts is driving back to the Magellan. Janek (ship's pilot) is in the command center when evolved weird alien attacks. it bites him, but Watts comes in and kills it with multiple head shots. They take off determined to ram the engineer's ship. During that the engineer's chest erupts and a super alien comes out (because they're based on what they come from) thus leaving the engineer where he was in the first 'Alien'. Ship starts descending, but Head of David radios Watts and says auto-pilot is engaging. They ram the ship, Janek is killed, but Watts escapes in a pod. She has to do the same run away as Vickers did in the movie from the engineer ship, but she does the smart thing and turns 90 degrees.

Finally she has to fight the super xenomorph, kills it, and lives in Vicker's luxury pod while waiting for a rescue party and playing chess with Head of David. THE END


TL/DR
Many changes to it. They farked up big time not doing this script. In my opinion it would've been much, much better.
2012-11-12 09:43:20 PM  
1 vote:
Ridley Scott makes a bad movie: it's all the fault of studio interference!

Ridley Scott makes a good movie: it's all the fault of studio interference!

Ridley Scott makes a movie with like six different endings, four of them provided by Ridley Scott: it's all the fault of studio interference!

Ridley Scott should either stop making movies or stop making movies for Hollywood studios.
2012-11-12 08:43:00 PM  
1 vote:
I liked the movie, but I'm still butt-hurt they didn't cast Lance Henriksen as Weyland.
2012-11-12 08:26:23 PM  
1 vote:

burndtdan: meat0918: skinink: I bought the DVD because I liked the special effects in the movies and the acting was good. The plot was bad. The thing that disappointed me the most is how the Aliens morphed from being to being which it was born in. Just didn't make any sense.

That's something that carried over from Aliens 3 and other media.

The xenomorph absorbed some of the form of host species. Fairly canon stuff.

Actually a lot of the things people complain about in the movie is basically alien canon.


We're accepting Aliens3 as canon now?
2012-11-12 08:24:39 PM  
1 vote:

meat0918: skinink: I bought the DVD because I liked the special effects in the movies and the acting was good. The plot was bad. The thing that disappointed me the most is how the Aliens morphed from being to being which it was born in. Just didn't make any sense.

That's something that carried over from Aliens 3 and other media.

The xenomorph absorbed some of the form of host species. Fairly canon stuff.


Actually a lot of the things people complain about in the movie is basically alien canon.
2012-11-12 08:22:45 PM  
1 vote:
It was far from perfect but I rather enjoyed Prometheus. Far from the most disappointing movie of the past year.
2012-11-12 08:18:10 PM  
1 vote:

RoxtarRyan: buntz: And I WAS bothered the chick couldn't run sideways.

Seriously, that was the biggest WTF moment for me.

You're being chased by a giant ring. What do you do? Do you run in a straight line, taking the same path as that ring, or do you side-step three feet to avoid it?

I mean, godfarkingdammit, you're supposedly a smart, tactical commander, and you can't realize that YOU EXIST IN THREE DIMENSIONAL SPACE???? Christ...... Any movie that is based around people that are supposedly brilliant, but are really dumb as fark (another example: brilliant biologist travels for years in cryo, first alien being he comes across, even being dead, he runs like a biatch from) loses all credibility, since whoever wrote it has no idea WTF they are doing.

Scott took a concept that was awesome as fark, highly anticipated, and turned it into a teen horror movie where everyone has shiat for brains.


I totally understand the WTF feelings about that scene. Not defending it as it's probably just ankle writing, but personally I give that individual scene a pass; I can totally see someone in a panic getting focused on one thing (run faster) and totally block out anything else (run smarter).
2012-11-12 08:12:48 PM  
1 vote:

Mad_Radhu: scottydoesntknow: I'm about a quarter of the way through the script (they just reached the star system), and it's already a hundred times better.

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I swear, we are going to look back on this guy in a few years and are going to realize that he is the Rob Liefeld of scriptwriting. I've never been more let down by show than I was with the final season of Lost.


I have to tangent and say that the last season of Fringe is pissing me off more than the last season of LOST. The finale of Lost bugged me with its final swerve and I felt it wasted a lot of opportunities with going with the Island of Vaguely Not-Jesusland, but Fringe? I'm okay with the time-shift and the observer war, seriously. It's Olivia and Peter making sad eyes at each other for what feels like 85% of the episode that I am not okay with and the total dumbing down of Walter and the uselessness of Astrid. At war? GO TO WAR. DON'T FARKING CRY TO ME ABOUT YOUR SHIAT. The last couple of eps were better. Slightly.

Also I liked Prometheus.
2012-11-12 07:53:10 PM  
1 vote:
I'm still one of the 7 people who defend Prometheus. It will probably end up on my top 10 of the year.
2012-11-12 07:52:55 PM  
1 vote:
Here's a quick shorthand to help work out if a movie might suck:

If there is more than one person listed as a writer in the credits, look to see if they are separated by an '&' symbol or by the word 'and'

'&' - Indicates the 2 people collaborated on the script.

'and' - Indicates that one person wrote the script, and the second person farked it up.

There are of course exceptions to this, but it generally holds pretty true. If a script needed to be worked on after the fact, it was either no good to begin with, or the studio wanted to broaden the appeal of the movie and will do so by adding explosions and fart jokes.
2012-11-12 07:41:15 PM  
1 vote:

skinink: I bought the DVD because I liked the special effects in the movies and the acting was good. The plot was bad. The thing that disappointed me the most is how the Aliens morphed from being to being which it was born in. Just didn't make any sense.


That's something that carried over from Aliens 3 and other media.

The xenomorph absorbed some of the form of host species. Fairly canon stuff.
2012-11-12 07:33:42 PM  
1 vote:

Intoxoman: Prometheus reminded me why I wait for dvd


...download it off the internet. Saw it this past weekend (so the story is good timing for me).

'Meh' is too strong a word. Didn't really love it, but was sufficiently mind-altered so the time was not completely wasted.

On the bright side, I did get to see at least one good movie this weekend. What if a zombie knew he was a zombie?
2012-11-12 07:26:14 PM  
1 vote:
Please...

Just make "Alien: Engineers".

We'll just forget about "Prometheus".
I'll even delete my copy.
2012-11-12 07:26:08 PM  
1 vote:
I bought the DVD because I liked the special effects in the movies and the acting was good. The plot was bad. The thing that disappointed me the most is how the Aliens morphed from being to being which it was born in. Just didn't make any sense.
2012-11-12 07:23:39 PM  
1 vote:

fusillade762: For all the haters.

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bad is bad
2012-11-12 07:16:22 PM  
1 vote:

theorellior: wildcardjack: Was I the only one who thought "If you have fusion plasma propulsion you don't need to crash into him, you just need to get him in your wake"?

They had a drive capable of single ship planet-to-planet transit. Those engines would have to be putting out gigawatts of energy.

Sadly, very few people in sci-fi have learned the Kzinti Lesson.


Actually I was thinking more from the time I watched an F-15 dig holes in a runway with it's afterburner.

Also, Heinlein went over the problem of launching a rather large ship from earth in Farmer in the Sky, noting that to launch the interplanetary ship from surface would have left a scorch mark the size of the Mojave. I'm going over instances of engine wash used as a weapon and I'm coming up Mythbusters. I remember them using shuttle engines on Moonraker to torch the 747, but that was worse BS than if a Creationist got the green light on their version Jurassic park.
2012-11-12 06:41:09 PM  
1 vote:
Um, I watched the Blue-Ray extras, that you pirate bay, and basically they changed their minds on the script every other month.
2012-11-12 06:38:11 PM  
1 vote:
DNRTFA, but let me guess: the studio farked with it.
2012-11-12 06:35:22 PM  
1 vote:
Kinda a dick move releasing it. But I guess it sucks being associated with that stinking pile of pooh. And he is smart enough to know that there is no better script than one that has not been filmed.
2012-11-12 06:34:04 PM  
1 vote:

wildcardjack: Was I the only one who thought "If you have fusion plasma propulsion you don't need to crash into him, you just need to get him in your wake"?

They had a drive capable of single ship planet-to-planet transit. Those engines would have to be putting out gigawatts of energy.


That was your problem with the movie? Hell I wanted the engineer to get away and destroy everything....EVERYTHING.
2012-11-12 06:31:41 PM  
1 vote:
In the original version could Charlize Theron run in diagonals?
2012-11-12 06:24:26 PM  
1 vote:

GRCooper: I guess I'm a moran, or I missed something - I thought Prometheus took place on LV-426


Nope, apparently LV-426 was just one in who knows how many test sites for the proto-humans. Nothing special about it at all.
2012-11-12 06:22:58 PM  
1 vote:
JJ Abrams: There will be no time travel in Lost.
Damon Lindelof: LOL!
2012-11-12 06:22:28 PM  
1 vote:
Space Jesus.

That is the answer to Prometheus. Space Jesus.
2012-11-12 06:18:56 PM  
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Yeah, no shiat. That's what happens when you get the studio hack writer du juor to do rewrites.
2012-11-12 06:18:11 PM  
1 vote:
I will admit that there is a competent movie in there somewhere. Not great, or even good, but competent. But as it is currently, it's a worse mess than the Iraq war.
2012-11-12 06:17:23 PM  
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You mean that wasn't a deliberate attempt to make a so-bad-its-good film?
2012-11-12 05:59:57 PM  
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I'm about a quarter of the way through the script (they just reached the star system), and it's already a hundred times better.

Biggest change so far is Weyland shows up 5 minutes (or pages) into it and doesn't go on the trip, instead of showing up 5 minutes toward the end like some sort of big secret reveal. He's more interested in the technology the Engineers use (most specifically the terraforming technology) and not whether they can grant him immortal life.

/"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
 
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