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2012-11-12 06:35:35 PM
7 votes:
When you have to put drugs up your butt to get high, its time to stop
2012-11-12 06:14:05 PM
7 votes:
i.imgur.com

WTF is wrong with these people who use bath salts?

He's wanted just for questioning apparently. Of course, when he was first raided for having a drug lab, he denied it and claimed the government of Belize was trying to squeeze him for money. Now we know he's been playing heavily with bath salts... and honestly, the leap to murder isn't that hard to imagine.

I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user who said it was the one thing he'd consider killing to get (thankfully, he's stepped away from it, and it's also no longer for sale here in this state).

The psychosis induced by these synthetics is way worse then the psychosis "natural" psychotics experience. It's not treatable, for starters. McAfee is toast. Once he leaped off that cliff, he was done. Spending your millions to play mad scientist with bath salts?? That's so far off the deep end, I'd have a hard time believing he wasn't guilty of killing this guy.
2012-11-12 06:44:34 PM
6 votes:
I love McAffe's anti-virus. I can't tell you how much money I've made fixing computers that they've farked up.
2012-11-12 07:00:35 PM
5 votes:

bwilson27: You're an idiot.


Well, that was a well thought, reasoned response... for a psychotic synthetics user, I guess.

Just one brief period of study seems to indicate the link between psychosis and synthetic cannabinoids

There are also plenty of posts from former users about seizures, inability to reason, complete lack of 'normal' inhibitions, and violent behavior. Of course, these are FORMER users. The people I know that used this stuff wouldn't have admitted anything of the sort, and now are shocked by their own behavior (what they remember of it).

Of course, there will always be morons who think it's perfectly harmless.
2012-11-12 06:32:59 PM
5 votes:
This is just his latest run-in with the law -- McAfee has been slowly turning into Walter White for some time.
2012-11-12 06:13:29 PM
4 votes:
That's what he gets for not unchecking the box when updating Flash player.
2012-11-12 08:51:52 PM
3 votes:
The question we should all be asking: Is it pronounced MAC-a-FEE, or Ma-CAFF-ee?
2012-11-12 07:44:22 PM
3 votes:

bwilson27: LesserEvil: bwilson27: You're an idiot.

Well, that was a well thought, reasoned response... for a psychotic synthetics user, I guess.

Just one brief period of study seems to indicate the link between psychosis and synthetic cannabinoids

There are also plenty of posts from former users about seizures, inability to reason, complete lack of 'normal' inhibitions, and violent behavior. Of course, these are FORMER users. The people I know that used this stuff wouldn't have admitted anything of the sort, and now are shocked by their own behavior (what they remember of it).

Of course, there will always be morons who think it's perfectly harmless.

Well thought-out, reasonable OOOOOOGA BOOOGA!!!


Would you like to post the reasons why he's wrong, or would you like to continue threadjacking?
2012-11-12 07:28:11 PM
3 votes:
bwilson27:You're an idiot.

Well thought-out, reasonable OOOOOOGA BOOOGA!!!


Have some more bath salts. It may actually make you coherent at some point.
2012-11-12 07:13:22 PM
3 votes:

AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know


I read a great article about bath salts, they used a sink as an analogy. Meth turns on the faucet for serotonin and floods your brain with it. Coke doesn't turn the faucet on but plugs the sink, blocking the reuptake. Bath salts, plugs the sink AND turns on the faucet.
2012-11-12 06:57:57 PM
3 votes:

LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user


"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know
2012-11-12 06:48:18 PM
3 votes:
Ambergris Caye = Whale Puke Island

Sound about right?

/doesn't sound like an enticing place to live
2012-11-12 06:31:49 PM
3 votes:
This dude is like the Colonal Colonel Kurtz of the software industry...

He basically moved down there with his money, started doing crazy shiat, and every time a drug lord or politiion attacked him he would just hire them. I am sure this will disappear the same way.
2012-11-13 01:41:02 AM
2 votes:

fusillade762: Primum: The Shadow People are real, though. It just takes massive sleep dep or high doses of meth to open your "third-eye," as you will, to see this dimension that exists between ours and theirs.

I thought that was DMT?

And what's with all the name calling in this thread?


No, DMT is the one where you meet magic elves from hyperspace.


DerekHoge: Answer: MacBook


What a marvelous idea. McAfee release a shiat antivirus, so I should immediately buy a new computer that I don't particularly like, throw out 17 years of accumulated software and exchange the various technical matters I have solved and learned to understand over that 17 year period for entirely new ones. Or spend ten minutes researching the best free antivirus and carry on as before.
2012-11-12 11:59:04 PM
2 votes:

gulley: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7?


another vote for Microsoft Security Essentials, it's good, unobtrusive, free and pain in the ass free.
2012-11-12 08:14:55 PM
2 votes:
Bath salts, meth, crack, heroin and coke are bad.

Weed belongs in the supermarket and gas station next to cigarettes.

Educate, license, tax, rehabilitate.
2012-11-12 08:05:20 PM
2 votes:

lemortede: NutznGum: This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.

I think it refers to some of the hallucinations people have on meth. Some say they see shadowy people following them, spying on the from behind trees, etc...

I always called them Shadow People.


Ya, me too. 'Tree cops' sounds pretty dumb, although doing meth is infinitely more dumb. I'm glad I got out before I lost my mind. And my teeth and my my nice, clear skin, my home, friends and family, all my worldly possessions, etc.....
2012-11-12 07:52:55 PM
2 votes:
Charging someone for murder down there is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500
2012-11-12 07:30:34 PM
2 votes:

LesserEvil: They are both carriers of synthetic compounds, created by some coffee house in the Netherlands back in 2004.


This may sound kind of fishy, but I totally get this. Back in the day, when I was a Barista at a Joe Muggs coffee shop, I'd have to spend all day listening to pretentions pseudo-yuppies who were too stupid to get their 'decaf soy milk chai latte' from an actual coffee shop and instead wandered into a Starbucks knockoff in a shiatty book store, not even Barnes and Noble for god's sake, and nine times out of ten they couldn't even tell when I'd give up listening to their idiotic requests for custom shiatty overpriced coffee drinks that I wouldn't even bother to learn how to make and instead just mixed some random shiat up in a cup and gave it to them. A couple more months of that and I'd have resorted to running random cleaning chemical cocktails through the espresso maker and topping them off with foamy steamed expired non-dairy creamer with a swirl of pumpkin pie spice. God knows I could have ended up whipping up a batch of mind-altering substances that would made people eat each other's faces off right there in the shiatty paperback romance aisle, blood-spattered harlequin bodice-rippers flying left and right amid the terrified screams of faux hipsters, and by God would that have been the highlight of that whole shiatty job.

So yeah, I can totally see that happening.
2012-11-12 07:06:16 PM
2 votes:

AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know


They are both carriers of synthetic compounds, created by some coffee house in the Netherlands back in 2004. Spice and Bath Salts come in varieties of synthetics, and they are all related. Both delivery systems and their associated synthetics are bad for you.

It's far worse than the real stuff, and it doesn't even have the benefit of years of study. You won't find me posting how smoking marijuana is bad for you, but spice and bath salts? Two birds of a feather and both very nasty things.

Just because some Farkers can still go down to the local gas station and by them "not for human consumption" doesn't make it right to use it, and certainly doesn't mean it's healthy for you.
2012-11-12 06:54:40 PM
2 votes:
"...went to the house of Mr. Faull to do her daily chores when she saw him laying inside of the hall motionless,..."

This is very disturbing, especially considering the writer had already correctly used the word "lying" in the previous sentence:

"...they saw 52 year old U.S National Mr. GREGORY VIANT FAULL... lying face up in a pool of blood with an apparent gunshot wound on the upper rear part of his head..."

What is the world coming to?
2012-11-12 06:49:04 PM
2 votes:

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: They should also try him for a few million cases of murdering people's computers.


right after they hang that Norton guy
2012-11-12 06:48:44 PM
2 votes:

SoCalChris: I love McAffe's anti-virus. I can't tell you how much money I've made fixing computers that they've farked up.


I did until I started working at a place that for some reason insists on it. Of course, whoever made that decision is several, several states away. If I didn't have to send sensitive information I'd just f--k it and install Avast. But instead I suppose I'll just bide my time until the fails pile up.

In any case, HEADDESK.

You know what, I take it back. For all the money I've gotten doing side jobs for relatives and their friends cleaning up after McAfee, it was not worth the
2012-11-12 06:38:00 PM
2 votes:
They should also try him for a few million cases of murdering people's computers.
2012-11-12 06:37:39 PM
2 votes:
Whatever happened to hookers and blow?
2012-11-12 06:36:55 PM
2 votes:
So THAT'S why he left the US and is surrounded by young, nubile women in Central America.
2012-11-12 06:36:22 PM
2 votes:
So he just sucked the resources out of him until he blue-screened?

/Your AV sucks
2012-11-15 11:52:30 AM
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.

There are a few out there that are good enough. But these days, if you don't open every goddamned thing people send you in email and don't surf websites that are shady, you're probably fine with Microsoft Security Essentials which is provided for free from Microsoft.


I used to have Norton and I got Vundo/Virtumonde anyway. Didn't think the website i was surfing was *that* shady; I'd gone there many times in the past. Managed to rescue some data, but then I had to reformat to get rid of it -- Norton sat there and did nothing (and yes it was up to date.) Now I have MSE, and NoScript for Firefox.
2012-11-13 04:41:13 PM
1 votes:

spentshells: LesserEvil: [i.imgur.com image 400x349]

WTF is wrong with these people who use bath salts?

He's wanted just for questioning apparently. Of course, when he was first raided for having a drug lab, he denied it and claimed the government of Belize was trying to squeeze him for money. Now we know he's been playing heavily with bath salts... and honestly, the leap to murder isn't that hard to imagine.

I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user who said it was the one thing he'd consider killing to get (thankfully, he's stepped away from it, and it's also no longer for sale here in this state).

The psychosis induced by these synthetics is way worse then the psychosis "natural" psychotics experience. It's not treatable, for starters. McAfee is toast. Once he leaped off that cliff, he was done. Spending your millions to play mad scientist with bath salts?? That's so far off the deep end, I'd have a hard time believing he wasn't guilty of killing this guy.

NutznGum: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

I read a great article about bath salts, they used a sink as an analogy. Meth turns on the faucet for serotonin and floods your brain with it. Coke doesn't turn the faucet on but plugs the sink, blocking the reuptake. Bath salts, plugs the sink AND turns on the faucet.

So its awesome? Im not sure what you are saying here.


I realize this was directed at NutznGum, but... no. While "Spice" is by far the less dangerous of the drugs, it is still dangerous and has caused quite a few people a lot of misery, especially people who thought it was as safe as weed. Siezures, ongoing mental disturbance, paranoia, etc. So-called bath salts have been known to cause long-term psychosis. Patients treated with anti-psychotic drugs responded well, until they were taken off the anti-psychotics. Then the psychosis returned.

I'm generally in favor of legalization of drugs, but bath salts especially are so farkin' dangerous, the people who make and sell them should be locked up.
2012-11-13 12:05:50 PM
1 votes:

LavenderWolf: AverageAmericanGuy: I use a Mac, so I don't have to worry about virii or getting murdered by antivirus pioneers.

A) It's "viruses"

B) There are viruses on macs, in the wild.


Drop the DB "Macs don't get viruses. Yes, they do, yes they can, and yes they will.

And not only the people that will hit every "install now" prompt. It is possible on the current OS to bypass the admin password and install malware without user interaction via Java scripting.

It will happen more and if the 100,000 Mac botnet that was only discovered because one guy decided to run an Antivirus program on his Mac, then there will be more. The other 99,999 most likely never had one installed because they were lulled into the false pretense that Macs don't get viruses/malware by Apple's own marketing.

While you may be "smart enough" to not hit Yes on every screen that pops up, there are 100,000 others who aren't. Those are the people that worry me. At least the Windows people know a scanner is necessary to protect themselves and others while the head-in-the-sand Mac people just think that Apple would never lead them astray and act morally superior while not having a clue about what they're talking about.

It's like having sex with woman and not wearing a condom because she says she's had her tubes tied so there's no way she can get pregnant.
2012-11-13 11:33:26 AM
1 votes:
I'm trying my hardest to form any sort of an opinion on this, best I can come up with is he moved to Belize, he's Belize's problem now. They'll do what they do.
2012-11-13 02:36:02 AM
1 votes:
McAfee and Norton are absolute crap. We wind up removing Norton about 80% of the time for corruption and McAfee just shy of 100% of the time on client computers.

MS Security Essentials is OK if you are a competent internet user and not a moron.

I have tested MSSE, NOD32, Vipre, AVG, AVAST, and Kaspersky in the field over time. Kaspersky beats all of them hands down. Out of the packages they make, the Internet Security seems to give the best performance overall. Their Pure package is buggy and causes problems with its extra bells and whistles, and the AV stand alone doesn't provide enough protection for your average user.

It has proven effective against the nastiest of rootkits and I have seen it thoroughly clean systems that other competitor shops said were going to need to be wiped.

I am always looking for a better tool to disinfect and protect computers. So far, Kaspersky is the only product that I have felt comfortable selling. Before I would make recommendations only, because there just wasn't a solid piece of software for me to put my reputation fully behind it.

We have a 95% recovery rate on machines that come into our business in terms of disinfection, and that means we don't wipe it. We use other tools than just Kaspersky, but a kaspersky rescue disk is one of our primary tools.

Products you should absolutely avoid: McAfee (anything), Norton (anything), Webroot (anything), Spyware Doctor (absolute crap rip-off ware)

Your mileage may vary, but this is based on the repair of thousands of machines.
2012-11-13 01:58:27 AM
1 votes:
My best McAfee story is when it thought svchost.exe was a virus. Funnest day at work ever.
2012-11-12 11:46:28 PM
1 votes:
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

RIP Mr. Faull. He owned a bar on the UCF campus which is frequented by alumni and students alike especially on game days. He was always very down the Earth and would always kick ass at cornhole. Nice guy, what a shame.
2012-11-12 11:02:07 PM
1 votes:

Pribar: Damn between this guy and Hans Reiser computer geeks are gonna get a gangsta rep


frontalot.com

To late
2012-11-12 10:26:01 PM
1 votes:

gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.


There are a few out there that are good enough. But these days, if you don't open every goddamned thing people send you in email and don't surf websites that are shady, you're probably fine with Microsoft Security Essentials which is provided for free from Microsoft.
2012-11-12 10:25:22 PM
1 votes:

gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.


I switched to Microsoft Security Essentials a while back and have been happy with it. Simple, fast, unobtrusive and free, and it has caught one or two viruses since I've had it so I suppose it's effective. In my opinion there's no reason to pay for antivirus anymore for the average home user.
2012-11-12 10:20:08 PM
1 votes:
Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.
2012-11-12 09:14:45 PM
1 votes:

Primum: The Shadow People are real, though. It just takes massive sleep dep or high doses of meth to open your "third-eye," as you will, to see this dimension that exists between ours and theirs.


I thought that was DMT?

And what's with all the name calling in this thread?
2012-11-12 09:10:16 PM
1 votes:

Primum: The Shadow People are real, though. It just takes massive sleep dep or high doses of meth to open your "third-eye," as you will, to see this dimension that exists between ours and theirs.


I saw those farkers all the time when I was a teenager, and I didn't even *know* anyone who used drugs, much less use them myself. Of course, I also thought I was in psychic communication with the ghost of Keith Moon, and that I had been reincarnated dozens of times and was cursed to spend eternity trying to reform an assassin (also constantly reincarnated) who looked like Steve Clark of Def Leppard.

/eventually it became clear that the latter part of my teen years was just one long manic episode with psychotic features
2012-11-12 09:09:04 PM
1 votes:

LiberalWeenie: KidneyStone: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

Dopamine, not serotonin.

I think.

I know ecstasy is serotonin, and I think it turns the sink on. Not sure about plugging it.

And yes, opiates are dopamine.


Pretty sure ecstasy just turns it on
2012-11-12 09:06:59 PM
1 votes:

KidneyStone: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

Dopamine, not serotonin.

I think.


I know ecstasy is serotonin, and I think it turns the sink on. Not sure about plugging it.

And yes, opiates are dopamine.
2012-11-12 08:51:25 PM
1 votes:
25.media.tumblr.com
2012-11-12 08:25:53 PM
1 votes:

AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know


Dopamine, not serotonin.

I think.
2012-11-12 08:12:20 PM
1 votes:

LesserEvil: They are both carriers of synthetic compounds, created by some coffee house in the Netherlands back in 2004. Spice and Bath Salts come in varieties of synthetics, and they are all related. Both delivery systems and their associated synthetics are bad for you.


You do not know what you are talking about. Do a little research. I'll give you a head start with the prestigious Wikipedia:

JWH-018

Digest that, and then we'll move on to the more complicated history of "bath salts," which are completely untrelated to the JWH series of synthetic cannibanoids.

Again, I do not advocate either of these dangerous drugs. I just don't like to see such ignorance about such an important matter.
2012-11-12 07:43:31 PM
1 votes:
The Shadow People are real, though. It just takes massive sleep dep or high doses of meth to open your "third-eye," as you will, to see this dimension that exists between ours and theirs.
2012-11-12 07:39:38 PM
1 votes:

toraque: So yeah, I can totally see that happening.


Faved. Is orange 3 OK?
2012-11-12 07:28:11 PM
1 votes:

This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.


Hallucination brought on by use of psychoactives, or simple sleep deprivation. Seeing "shadows" in your periphery, or movement in shadows, i.e. "There's cops in the trees, man". Common among methheads and crackheads, or anyone taking anything that keeps them up for days on end.
2012-11-12 07:26:33 PM
1 votes:

This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.


I think it refers to some of the hallucinations people have on meth. Some say they see shadowy people following them, spying on the from behind trees, etc...
2012-11-12 07:26:31 PM
1 votes:

Gordon Bennett: Wasn't McAfee the one that was detecting itself as a virus?


Wouldn't surprise me. I've seen several instances where McAffe just completely disabled the computer's network connection because, fark it, you weren't using that were you?
2012-11-12 07:13:07 PM
1 votes:
Original article from the San Pedro Sun here: Link
2012-11-12 07:07:33 PM
1 votes:

Ed Finnerty: That's what he gets for not unchecking the box when updating Flash player.


I farking hate that shiat. I ended up just disabling Flash so I don't have to worry about updates for that pig.
2012-11-12 07:02:31 PM
1 votes:

AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know


Ever wandered around Bluelight.ru? Seriously farked up. That and Erowid. Total drugies and fairly decent science all in one place. Weird.
2012-11-12 07:01:59 PM
1 votes:

Hobodeluxe: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: They should also try him for a few million cases of murdering people's computers.

right after they hang that Norton guy


They should both face a war tribunal for atrocities committed against computers.
2012-11-12 06:52:52 PM
1 votes:

Spaghettiows: I wonder what malice Peter Norton is capable of.


i.imgur.comi.imgur.com
2012-11-12 06:48:10 PM
1 votes:
So is this in response to that article we saw a couple days ago?
2012-11-12 06:45:20 PM
1 votes:
Holy crap that deserves main page.
2012-11-12 06:45:19 PM
1 votes:
I wonder what malice Peter Norton is capable of.
2012-11-12 06:43:51 PM
1 votes:

LesserEvil: [i.imgur.com image 400x349]

WTF is wrong with these people who use bath salts?

He's wanted just for questioning apparently. Of course, when he was first raided for having a drug lab, he denied it and claimed the government of Belize was trying to squeeze him for money. Now we know he's been playing heavily with bath salts... and honestly, the leap to murder isn't that hard to imagine.

I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user who said it was the one thing he'd consider killing to get (thankfully, he's stepped away from it, and it's also no longer for sale here in this state).

The psychosis induced by these synthetics is way worse then the psychosis "natural" psychotics experience. It's not treatable, for starters. McAfee is toast. Once he leaped off that cliff, he was done. Spending your millions to play mad scientist with bath salts?? That's so far off the deep end, I'd have a hard time believing he wasn't guilty of killing this guy.


You're an idiot.
2012-11-12 06:40:41 PM
1 votes:
img577.imageshack.us
2012-11-12 06:39:39 PM
1 votes:
Meh, I use Avira.
2012-11-12 06:39:33 PM
1 votes:
I think 'up the bum' has been an administration option for the opium community since antiquity, IIRC.
2012-11-12 06:38:13 PM
1 votes:
However, there were problems when the MDPV hit the anus.
2012-11-12 06:33:13 PM
1 votes:
img59.imageshack.us
 
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