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2012-11-12 06:13:29 PM
That's what he gets for not unchecking the box when updating Flash player.
 
2012-11-12 06:14:05 PM
i.imgur.com

WTF is wrong with these people who use bath salts?

He's wanted just for questioning apparently. Of course, when he was first raided for having a drug lab, he denied it and claimed the government of Belize was trying to squeeze him for money. Now we know he's been playing heavily with bath salts... and honestly, the leap to murder isn't that hard to imagine.

I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user who said it was the one thing he'd consider killing to get (thankfully, he's stepped away from it, and it's also no longer for sale here in this state).

The psychosis induced by these synthetics is way worse then the psychosis "natural" psychotics experience. It's not treatable, for starters. McAfee is toast. Once he leaped off that cliff, he was done. Spending your millions to play mad scientist with bath salts?? That's so far off the deep end, I'd have a hard time believing he wasn't guilty of killing this guy.
 
2012-11-12 06:27:04 PM
png-2.findicons.com
 
2012-11-12 06:31:49 PM
This dude is like the Colonal Colonel Kurtz of the software industry...

He basically moved down there with his money, started doing crazy shiat, and every time a drug lord or politiion attacked him he would just hire them. I am sure this will disappear the same way.
 
2012-11-12 06:32:59 PM
This is just his latest run-in with the law -- McAfee has been slowly turning into Walter White for some time.
 
2012-11-12 06:33:13 PM
img59.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-12 06:33:43 PM
img.gawkerassets.com

Next time, you better pay for the damn subscription.
 
2012-11-12 06:35:35 PM
When you have to put drugs up your butt to get high, its time to stop
 
2012-11-12 06:36:22 PM
So he just sucked the resources out of him until he blue-screened?

/Your AV sucks
 
2012-11-12 06:36:55 PM
So THAT'S why he left the US and is surrounded by young, nubile women in Central America.
 
2012-11-12 06:37:39 PM
Whatever happened to hookers and blow?
 
2012-11-12 06:37:57 PM

FatherChaos: [img.gawkerassets.com image 850x478]

Next time, you better pay for the damn subscription.


And i thought Danny Bonaduce was living clean now...
 
2012-11-12 06:38:00 PM
They should also try him for a few million cases of murdering people's computers.
 
2012-11-12 06:38:13 PM
However, there were problems when the MDPV hit the anus.
 
2012-11-12 06:39:33 PM
I think 'up the bum' has been an administration option for the opium community since antiquity, IIRC.
 
2012-11-12 06:39:39 PM
Meh, I use Avira.
 
2012-11-12 06:40:41 PM
img577.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-12 06:41:34 PM
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YES! IT REALLY IS THE DEVIL!
 
2012-11-12 06:43:31 PM
He probably just killed a hooker; that's how you say " Hello" in Belize.
 
2012-11-12 06:43:51 PM

LesserEvil: [i.imgur.com image 400x349]

WTF is wrong with these people who use bath salts?

He's wanted just for questioning apparently. Of course, when he was first raided for having a drug lab, he denied it and claimed the government of Belize was trying to squeeze him for money. Now we know he's been playing heavily with bath salts... and honestly, the leap to murder isn't that hard to imagine.

I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user who said it was the one thing he'd consider killing to get (thankfully, he's stepped away from it, and it's also no longer for sale here in this state).

The psychosis induced by these synthetics is way worse then the psychosis "natural" psychotics experience. It's not treatable, for starters. McAfee is toast. Once he leaped off that cliff, he was done. Spending your millions to play mad scientist with bath salts?? That's so far off the deep end, I'd have a hard time believing he wasn't guilty of killing this guy.


You're an idiot.
 
2012-11-12 06:44:34 PM
I love McAffe's anti-virus. I can't tell you how much money I've made fixing computers that they've farked up.
 
2012-11-12 06:45:19 PM
I wonder what malice Peter Norton is capable of.
 
2012-11-12 06:45:20 PM
Holy crap that deserves main page.
 
2012-11-12 06:47:31 PM
I like how the only problem most of the commenters over by there found with this story was the dosing method.
 
2012-11-12 06:48:10 PM
So is this in response to that article we saw a couple days ago?
 
2012-11-12 06:48:18 PM
Ambergris Caye = Whale Puke Island

Sound about right?

/doesn't sound like an enticing place to live
 
2012-11-12 06:48:41 PM
FTA : his ongoing quest to purify psychoactive drugs from compounds commercially available over the internet

I'd pay $59.95/yr. for that.
 
2012-11-12 06:48:44 PM

SoCalChris: I love McAffe's anti-virus. I can't tell you how much money I've made fixing computers that they've farked up.


I did until I started working at a place that for some reason insists on it. Of course, whoever made that decision is several, several states away. If I didn't have to send sensitive information I'd just f--k it and install Avast. But instead I suppose I'll just bide my time until the fails pile up.

In any case, HEADDESK.

You know what, I take it back. For all the money I've gotten doing side jobs for relatives and their friends cleaning up after McAfee, it was not worth the
 
2012-11-12 06:49:04 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: They should also try him for a few million cases of murdering people's computers.


right after they hang that Norton guy
 
2012-11-12 06:52:52 PM

Spaghettiows: I wonder what malice Peter Norton is capable of.


i.imgur.comi.imgur.com
 
2012-11-12 06:53:10 PM
Finally, a mccrapie product that does something.
 
2012-11-12 06:54:35 PM

SoCalChris: I love McAffe's anti-virus. I can't tell you how much money I've made fixing computers that they've farked up.

 
2012-11-12 06:54:40 PM
"...went to the house of Mr. Faull to do her daily chores when she saw him laying inside of the hall motionless,..."

This is very disturbing, especially considering the writer had already correctly used the word "lying" in the previous sentence:

"...they saw 52 year old U.S National Mr. GREGORY VIANT FAULL... lying face up in a pool of blood with an apparent gunshot wound on the upper rear part of his head..."

What is the world coming to?
 
2012-11-12 06:57:57 PM

LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user


"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know
 
2012-11-12 06:58:11 PM

AgentKGB: Spaghettiows: I wonder what malice Peter Norton is capable of.

[i.imgur.com image 300x300][i.imgur.com image 400x407]


If Peter Norton is capable of writing something like "Sunshine on my Shoulders", I would be very afraid of him.
 
2012-11-12 06:58:58 PM
Damn between this guy and Hans Reiser computer geeks are gonna get a gangsta rep
 
2012-11-12 06:59:00 PM
belize is indian for corn
 
2012-11-12 06:59:27 PM
Apparently McAfee has never heard of chewing tobacco.

/goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus
 
2012-11-12 07:00:35 PM

bwilson27: You're an idiot.


Well, that was a well thought, reasoned response... for a psychotic synthetics user, I guess.

Just one brief period of study seems to indicate the link between psychosis and synthetic cannabinoids

There are also plenty of posts from former users about seizures, inability to reason, complete lack of 'normal' inhibitions, and violent behavior. Of course, these are FORMER users. The people I know that used this stuff wouldn't have admitted anything of the sort, and now are shocked by their own behavior (what they remember of it).

Of course, there will always be morons who think it's perfectly harmless.
 
2012-11-12 07:01:59 PM

Hobodeluxe: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: They should also try him for a few million cases of murdering people's computers.

right after they hang that Norton guy


They should both face a war tribunal for atrocities committed against computers.
 
2012-11-12 07:02:31 PM

AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know


Ever wandered around Bluelight.ru? Seriously farked up. That and Erowid. Total drugies and fairly decent science all in one place. Weird.
 
2012-11-12 07:05:19 PM

LesserEvil: bwilson27: You're an idiot.

Well, that was a well thought, reasoned response... for a psychotic synthetics user, I guess.

Just one brief period of study seems to indicate the link between psychosis and synthetic cannabinoids

There are also plenty of posts from former users about seizures, inability to reason, complete lack of 'normal' inhibitions, and violent behavior. Of course, these are FORMER users. The people I know that used this stuff wouldn't have admitted anything of the sort, and now are shocked by their own behavior (what they remember of it).

Of course, there will always be morons who think it's perfectly harmless.


Well thought-out, reasonable OOOOOOGA BOOOGA!!!
 
2012-11-12 07:06:16 PM

AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know


They are both carriers of synthetic compounds, created by some coffee house in the Netherlands back in 2004. Spice and Bath Salts come in varieties of synthetics, and they are all related. Both delivery systems and their associated synthetics are bad for you.

It's far worse than the real stuff, and it doesn't even have the benefit of years of study. You won't find me posting how smoking marijuana is bad for you, but spice and bath salts? Two birds of a feather and both very nasty things.

Just because some Farkers can still go down to the local gas station and by them "not for human consumption" doesn't make it right to use it, and certainly doesn't mean it's healthy for you.
 
2012-11-12 07:07:33 PM

Ed Finnerty: That's what he gets for not unchecking the box when updating Flash player.


I farking hate that shiat. I ended up just disabling Flash so I don't have to worry about updates for that pig.
 
2012-11-12 07:10:14 PM
separated @ birth?

www.radaronline.com 

one is f00kin nuttier than squirrel-turds....
...and the other is.....
 
2012-11-12 07:13:07 PM
Original article from the San Pedro Sun here: Link
 
2012-11-12 07:13:15 PM

Bio-nic: hahahahahadhahahahadhahahahahahahahahahahahaha

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

OMG


Glad I'm not the only one that reacted like this, lol!
 
2012-11-12 07:13:22 PM

AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know


I read a great article about bath salts, they used a sink as an analogy. Meth turns on the faucet for serotonin and floods your brain with it. Coke doesn't turn the faucet on but plugs the sink, blocking the reuptake. Bath salts, plugs the sink AND turns on the faucet.
 
2012-11-12 07:17:22 PM
I bet he even slows his own murder trial to a crawl.
 
2012-11-12 07:18:26 PM
A+ headline
 
2012-11-12 07:19:10 PM
WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.
 
2012-11-12 07:20:42 PM

SoCalChris: I love McAffe's anti-virus. I can't tell you how much money I've made fixing computers that they've farked up.


Wasn't McAfee the one that was detecting itself as a virus?
 
2012-11-12 07:23:31 PM

Gordon Bennett: Wasn't McAfee the one that was detecting itself as a virus?


Many have at some point or another


/And MSE detected Norton as one at some point IIRC
 
2012-11-12 07:25:31 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Apparently McAfee has never heard of chewing tobacco.

/goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus


I lawl'd.
 
2012-11-12 07:26:31 PM

Gordon Bennett: Wasn't McAfee the one that was detecting itself as a virus?


Wouldn't surprise me. I've seen several instances where McAffe just completely disabled the computer's network connection because, fark it, you weren't using that were you?
 
2012-11-12 07:26:33 PM

This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.


I think it refers to some of the hallucinations people have on meth. Some say they see shadowy people following them, spying on the from behind trees, etc...
 
2012-11-12 07:28:11 PM

This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.


Hallucination brought on by use of psychoactives, or simple sleep deprivation. Seeing "shadows" in your periphery, or movement in shadows, i.e. "There's cops in the trees, man". Common among methheads and crackheads, or anyone taking anything that keeps them up for days on end.
 
2012-11-12 07:28:11 PM
bwilson27:You're an idiot.

Well thought-out, reasonable OOOOOOGA BOOOGA!!!


Have some more bath salts. It may actually make you coherent at some point.
 
2012-11-12 07:30:34 PM

LesserEvil: They are both carriers of synthetic compounds, created by some coffee house in the Netherlands back in 2004.


This may sound kind of fishy, but I totally get this. Back in the day, when I was a Barista at a Joe Muggs coffee shop, I'd have to spend all day listening to pretentions pseudo-yuppies who were too stupid to get their 'decaf soy milk chai latte' from an actual coffee shop and instead wandered into a Starbucks knockoff in a shiatty book store, not even Barnes and Noble for god's sake, and nine times out of ten they couldn't even tell when I'd give up listening to their idiotic requests for custom shiatty overpriced coffee drinks that I wouldn't even bother to learn how to make and instead just mixed some random shiat up in a cup and gave it to them. A couple more months of that and I'd have resorted to running random cleaning chemical cocktails through the espresso maker and topping them off with foamy steamed expired non-dairy creamer with a swirl of pumpkin pie spice. God knows I could have ended up whipping up a batch of mind-altering substances that would made people eat each other's faces off right there in the shiatty paperback romance aisle, blood-spattered harlequin bodice-rippers flying left and right amid the terrified screams of faux hipsters, and by God would that have been the highlight of that whole shiatty job.

So yeah, I can totally see that happening.
 
2012-11-12 07:31:56 PM

NutznGum: This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.

I think it refers to some of the hallucinations people have on meth. Some say they see shadowy people following them, spying on the from behind trees, etc...


I always called them Shadow People.
 
2012-11-12 07:36:36 PM
This is the worst PR stunt I've ever seen!
 
2012-11-12 07:39:38 PM

toraque: So yeah, I can totally see that happening.


Faved. Is orange 3 OK?
 
2012-11-12 07:41:50 PM
I use a Mac, so I don't have to worry about virii or getting murdered by antivirus pioneers.
 
2012-11-12 07:43:31 PM
The Shadow People are real, though. It just takes massive sleep dep or high doses of meth to open your "third-eye," as you will, to see this dimension that exists between ours and theirs.
 
2012-11-12 07:44:22 PM

bwilson27: LesserEvil: bwilson27: You're an idiot.

Well, that was a well thought, reasoned response... for a psychotic synthetics user, I guess.

Just one brief period of study seems to indicate the link between psychosis and synthetic cannabinoids

There are also plenty of posts from former users about seizures, inability to reason, complete lack of 'normal' inhibitions, and violent behavior. Of course, these are FORMER users. The people I know that used this stuff wouldn't have admitted anything of the sort, and now are shocked by their own behavior (what they remember of it).

Of course, there will always be morons who think it's perfectly harmless.

Well thought-out, reasonable OOOOOOGA BOOOGA!!!


Would you like to post the reasons why he's wrong, or would you like to continue threadjacking?
 
2012-11-12 07:45:53 PM

toraque: LesserEvil: They are both carriers of synthetic compounds, created by some coffee house in the Netherlands back in 2004.

This may sound kind of fishy, but I totally get this. Back in the day, when I was a Barista at a Joe Muggs coffee shop, I'd have to spend all day listening to pretentions pseudo-yuppies who were too stupid to get their 'decaf soy milk chai latte' from an actual coffee shop and instead wandered into a Starbucks knockoff in a shiatty book store, not even Barnes and Noble for god's sake, and nine times out of ten they couldn't even tell when I'd give up listening to their idiotic requests for custom shiatty overpriced coffee drinks that I wouldn't even bother to learn how to make and instead just mixed some random shiat up in a cup and gave it to them. A couple more months of that and I'd have resorted to running random cleaning chemical cocktails through the espresso maker and topping them off with foamy steamed expired non-dairy creamer with a swirl of pumpkin pie spice. God knows I could have ended up whipping up a batch of mind-altering substances that would made people eat each other's faces off right there in the shiatty paperback romance aisle, blood-spattered harlequin bodice-rippers flying left and right amid the terrified screams of faux hipsters, and by God would that have been the highlight of that whole shiatty job.

So yeah, I can totally see that happening.


:::sigh::: They don't just serve coffee in "coffee houses" in Amsterdam. The particular shop involved went from nickle-and-dime business in misc. drug paraphernalia and seeds to 5 times the revenue in a few short months of shipping synthetics in both forms.

They really don't care if it causes people to gnaw the faces off of others. They just want to make as much as they can. It's been fairly successful, since the synthetics are difficult to test for and they can shift to new formulations when specific ones appear as Schedule-A narcotics (which takes forever). I'm not sure how they got them outlawed here in Michigan, but it's off the shelves, finally.
 
2012-11-12 07:52:55 PM
Charging someone for murder down there is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500
 
2012-11-12 07:54:32 PM
He just keeps plugging along.
 
2012-11-12 08:05:20 PM

lemortede: NutznGum: This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.

I think it refers to some of the hallucinations people have on meth. Some say they see shadowy people following them, spying on the from behind trees, etc...

I always called them Shadow People.


Ya, me too. 'Tree cops' sounds pretty dumb, although doing meth is infinitely more dumb. I'm glad I got out before I lost my mind. And my teeth and my my nice, clear skin, my home, friends and family, all my worldly possessions, etc.....
 
2012-11-12 08:12:20 PM

LesserEvil: They are both carriers of synthetic compounds, created by some coffee house in the Netherlands back in 2004. Spice and Bath Salts come in varieties of synthetics, and they are all related. Both delivery systems and their associated synthetics are bad for you.


You do not know what you are talking about. Do a little research. I'll give you a head start with the prestigious Wikipedia:

JWH-018

Digest that, and then we'll move on to the more complicated history of "bath salts," which are completely untrelated to the JWH series of synthetic cannibanoids.

Again, I do not advocate either of these dangerous drugs. I just don't like to see such ignorance about such an important matter.
 
2012-11-12 08:14:55 PM
Bath salts, meth, crack, heroin and coke are bad.

Weed belongs in the supermarket and gas station next to cigarettes.

Educate, license, tax, rehabilitate.
 
2012-11-12 08:17:30 PM
The next "killer app" I guess......
 
2012-11-12 08:25:53 PM

AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know


Dopamine, not serotonin.

I think.
 
2012-11-12 08:28:29 PM
I wonder if he still gets residuals from the Partridge Family Show?
 
2012-11-12 08:51:25 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-12 08:51:52 PM
The question we should all be asking: Is it pronounced MAC-a-FEE, or Ma-CAFF-ee?
 
2012-11-12 09:01:21 PM

LesserEvil: bwilson27: You're an idiot.

Well, that was a well thought, reasoned response... for a psychotic synthetics user, I guess.

Just one brief period of study seems to indicate the link between psychosis and synthetic cannabinoids

There are also plenty of posts from former users about seizures, inability to reason, complete lack of 'normal' inhibitions, and violent behavior. Of course, these are FORMER users. The people I know that used this stuff wouldn't have admitted anything of the sort, and now are shocked by their own behavior (what they remember of it).

Of course, there will always be morons who think it's perfectly harmless.


You are also an idiot.
 
2012-11-12 09:06:59 PM

KidneyStone: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

Dopamine, not serotonin.

I think.


I know ecstasy is serotonin, and I think it turns the sink on. Not sure about plugging it.

And yes, opiates are dopamine.
 
2012-11-12 09:09:04 PM

LiberalWeenie: KidneyStone: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

Dopamine, not serotonin.

I think.

I know ecstasy is serotonin, and I think it turns the sink on. Not sure about plugging it.

And yes, opiates are dopamine.


Pretty sure ecstasy just turns it on
 
2012-11-12 09:09:16 PM
Never have I regretted a change in my virus protection less than when I dropped Mcafee and went to F-secure. Now I have even fewer regrets.
 
2012-11-12 09:10:16 PM

Primum: The Shadow People are real, though. It just takes massive sleep dep or high doses of meth to open your "third-eye," as you will, to see this dimension that exists between ours and theirs.


I saw those farkers all the time when I was a teenager, and I didn't even *know* anyone who used drugs, much less use them myself. Of course, I also thought I was in psychic communication with the ghost of Keith Moon, and that I had been reincarnated dozens of times and was cursed to spend eternity trying to reform an assassin (also constantly reincarnated) who looked like Steve Clark of Def Leppard.

/eventually it became clear that the latter part of my teen years was just one long manic episode with psychotic features
 
2012-11-12 09:14:02 PM

toraque: LesserEvil: They are both carriers of synthetic compounds, created by some coffee house in the Netherlands back in 2004.

This may sound kind of fishy, but I totally get this. Back in the day, when I was a Barista at a Joe Muggs coffee shop, I'd have to spend all day listening to pretentions pseudo-yuppies who were too stupid to get their 'decaf soy milk chai latte' from an actual coffee shop and instead wandered into a Starbucks knockoff in a shiatty book store, not even Barnes and Noble for god's sake, and nine times out of ten they couldn't even tell when I'd give up listening to their idiotic requests for custom shiatty overpriced coffee drinks that I wouldn't even bother to learn how to make and instead just mixed some random shiat up in a cup and gave it to them. A couple more months of that and I'd have resorted to running random cleaning chemical cocktails through the espresso maker and topping them off with foamy steamed expired non-dairy creamer with a swirl of pumpkin pie spice. God knows I could have ended up whipping up a batch of mind-altering substances that would made people eat each other's faces off right there in the shiatty paperback romance aisle, blood-spattered harlequin bodice-rippers flying left and right amid the terrified screams of faux hipsters, and by God would that have been the highlight of that whole shiatty job.

So yeah, I can totally see that happening.


If I were a woman, and twenty years younger, I would want you as the father of my child. I like the cut o'yer jib, young feller.
 
2012-11-12 09:14:45 PM

Primum: The Shadow People are real, though. It just takes massive sleep dep or high doses of meth to open your "third-eye," as you will, to see this dimension that exists between ours and theirs.


I thought that was DMT?

And what's with all the name calling in this thread?
 
2012-11-12 09:19:11 PM

NutznGum: This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.

I think it refers to some of the hallucinations people have on meth. Some say they see shadowy people following them, spying on the from behind

Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness: This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.

Hallucination brought on by use of psychoactives, or simple sleep deprivation. Seeing "shadows" in your periphery, or movement in shadows, i.e. "There's cops in the trees, man". Common among methheads and crackheads, or anyone taking anything that keeps them up for days on end.

trees, etc...


Thanks to both of you for clearing that up, and "Lets talk frankly about internal cleanliness" is my new favorite Fark handle.
 
2012-11-12 09:26:56 PM
 
2012-11-12 09:29:40 PM

NutznGum: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

I read a great article about bath salts, they used a sink as an analogy. Meth turns on the faucet for serotonin and floods your brain with it. Coke doesn't turn the faucet on but plugs the sink, blocking the reuptake. Bath salts, plugs the sink AND turns on the faucet.


Yep. Same article I read.
 
2012-11-12 09:32:08 PM

LesserEvil: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

They are both carriers of synthetic compounds, created by some coffee house in the Netherlands back in 2004. Spice and Bath Salts come in varieties of synthetics, and they are all related. Both delivery systems and their associated synthetics are bad for you.

It's far worse than the real stuff, and it doesn't even have the benefit of years of study. You won't find me posting how smoking marijuana is bad for you, but spice and bath salts? Two birds of a feather and both very nasty things.

Just because some Farkers can still go down to the local gas station and by them "not for human consumption" doesn't make it right to use it, and certainly doesn't mean it's healthy for you.


Did you see the part where I said I'm not endorsing them? They are both very bad. I'm just pointing out that they aren't the same thing. Not advocating or endorsing or supporting. Just observing that there's a difference.

Leap to conclusions much?
 
2012-11-12 09:33:46 PM

KidneyStone: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

Dopamine, not serotonin.

I think.


Less filling!!!
 
2012-11-12 09:35:24 PM

Mazzic518: LiberalWeenie: KidneyStone: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

Dopamine, not serotonin.

I think.

I know ecstasy is serotonin, and I think it turns the sink on. Not sure about plugging it.

And yes, opiates are dopamine.

Pretty sure ecstasy just turns it on


Yeah, and one of the others prevents the reuptake.

I'm not a chemist. I read an article once.
 
2012-11-12 09:35:34 PM

LesserEvil: [i.imgur.com image 400x349]

WTF is wrong with these people who use bath salts?

He's wanted just for questioning apparently. Of course, when he was first raided for having a drug lab, he denied it and claimed the government of Belize was trying to squeeze him for money. Now we know he's been playing heavily with bath salts... and honestly, the leap to murder isn't that hard to imagine.

I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user who said it was the one thing he'd consider killing to get (thankfully, he's stepped away from it, and it's also no longer for sale here in this state).

The psychosis induced by these synthetics is way worse then the psychosis "natural" psychotics experience. It's not treatable, for starters. McAfee is toast. Once he leaped off that cliff, he was done. Spending your millions to play mad scientist with bath salts?? That's so far off the deep end, I'd have a hard time believing he wasn't guilty of killing this guy.


and heaps of good luck to the poor bastards gets you for Jury duty. small minds are easily swayed, pin head.
 
2012-11-12 09:39:24 PM
I read the whole Bluelight thread when someone linked it yesterday. Mildly interesting.
Gizmodo must have read the whole thing too to find the single post where he talks about, ahem, anal insertion. While pretty much the entire rest of the time he's talking about snorting a different drug.
 
2012-11-12 09:49:21 PM
Saw this coming 2000 miles away. A little sooner than I'd expect though.
I'd figure he'd make it through Xmas.
If he's hiding in the jungles of Belize I think that's punishment enough. Plus the 15 different types of deadly snakes would probably get him first.
 
2012-11-12 09:57:09 PM
FTA: ... lying face up in a pool of blood with an apparent gunshot wound on the upper rear part of his head apparently dead.

Redundancy Department of Redundancy? Where are editors these days? And how are you "apparently" dead? It seems to me that is a fact that can be stated quite explicitly without compromising the investigation and/or the "alleged" perp's guilt.

/sigh
 
2012-11-12 09:58:48 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Hobodeluxe: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: They should also try him for a few million cases of murdering people's computers.

right after they hang that Norton guy

They should both face a war tribunal for atrocities committed against computers.


HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ILL OF HIS MAJESTY THE EMPEROR NORTON

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-12 10:01:36 PM

SoCalChris: I love McAffe's anti-virus. I can't tell you how much money I've made fixing computers that they've farked up.


As someone who went to McAffee's website and followed their instruction to try removing it using the Control Panel then, if that didn't work, to download their removal software, I can safely say McAffee can rot in hell.

/actually it was Norton 360 but this article is about McAfee so projection or transference or bad ju ju. Whatever. They all suck.
 
2012-11-12 10:07:38 PM
Answer: MacBook
 
2012-11-12 10:14:23 PM

litespeed74: Saw this coming 2000 miles away. A little sooner than I'd expect though.
I'd figure he'd make it through Xmas.
If he's hiding in the jungles of Belize I think that's punishment enough. Plus the 15 different types of deadly snakes would probably get him first.


The fer-de-lance (Bothrops asper) is pretty nasty. Wikipedia shows what happens when you leave a bite untreated (or stupidly try to treat it with antibiotics): Bothrops asper (bottom of page, not safe for lunch).
 
2012-11-12 10:19:56 PM

DerekHoge: Answer: MacBook


Play alot of games on that?
 
2012-11-12 10:19:58 PM

toraque: LesserEvil: They are both carriers of synthetic compounds, created by some coffee house in the Netherlands back in 2004.

This may sound kind of fishy, but I totally get this. Back in the day, when I was a Barista at a Joe Muggs coffee shop, I'd have to spend all day listening to pretentions pseudo-yuppies who were too stupid to get their 'decaf soy milk chai latte' from an actual coffee shop and instead wandered into a Starbucks knockoff in a shiatty book store, not even Barnes and Noble for god's sake, and nine times out of ten they couldn't even tell when I'd give up listening to their idiotic requests for custom shiatty overpriced coffee drinks that I wouldn't even bother to learn how to make and instead just mixed some random shiat up in a cup and gave it to them. A couple more months of that and I'd have resorted to running random cleaning chemical cocktails through the espresso maker and topping them off with foamy steamed expired non-dairy creamer with a swirl of pumpkin pie spice. God knows I could have ended up whipping up a batch of mind-altering substances that would made people eat each other's faces off right there in the shiatty paperback romance aisle, blood-spattered harlequin bodice-rippers flying left and right amid the terrified screams of faux hipsters, and by God would that have been the highlight of that whole shiatty job.

So yeah, I can totally see that happening.


+1
 
2012-11-12 10:20:08 PM
Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.
 
2012-11-12 10:25:22 PM

gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.


I switched to Microsoft Security Essentials a while back and have been happy with it. Simple, fast, unobtrusive and free, and it has caught one or two viruses since I've had it so I suppose it's effective. In my opinion there's no reason to pay for antivirus anymore for the average home user.
 
2012-11-12 10:26:01 PM

gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.


There are a few out there that are good enough. But these days, if you don't open every goddamned thing people send you in email and don't surf websites that are shady, you're probably fine with Microsoft Security Essentials which is provided for free from Microsoft.
 
2012-11-12 10:26:05 PM

gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.


Avira
 
2012-11-12 10:30:34 PM

gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.


There are a lot out there, with varying degrees of success. Avoid Norton and McAffee- they are software of the devil. I used Trend Micro in the past, but it is also a behemoth file size and will bog your system down (especially if the weekly scan kicks on while you are playing WoW... I always forgot to change the time until it locked up my system). Kapersky used to be good, but I am not sure about it anymore. There is also the free one from Microsoft to use temporarily. Your best bet is to research several different brands and figure out which you feel is the best. Amazon is a good place to start, especially if you browse software with reviews posted. You can also use Epinions if you would like further reviews. 

/If you decide to use Epinions, please refer me (Anastacya is my member name)
//shameless self-plug
///not trying to threadjack
 
2012-11-12 10:31:16 PM

SoCalChris: I love McAffe's anti-virus. I can't tell you how much money I've made fixing computers that they've farked up.


I haven't made any $ from that. But I have gotten a lot of free dinners and beer from friends that wanted to throw their laptops into the fire because of McAffee.
 
2012-11-12 10:33:11 PM

gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.


Avast worked pretty well for me until I started having to use an obscure proprietary software that didn't play well with it. AVG seems to slow things to a crawl but some people I know like it.

Try going to cnet downloads and spend a few quality minutes reading professional and user reviews and download your choice from there.

I do that every couple of years when I get a new pc and its always been easy and I've been pretty trouble free despite visiting some pretty shady boob sites.
 
2012-11-12 10:43:03 PM

Snarfangel: litespeed74: Saw this coming 2000 miles away. A little sooner than I'd expect though.
I'd figure he'd make it through Xmas.
If he's hiding in the jungles of Belize I think that's punishment enough. Plus the 15 different types of deadly snakes would probably get him first.

The fer-de-lance (Bothrops asper) is pretty nasty. Wikipedia shows what happens when you leave a bite untreated (or stupidly try to treat it with antibiotics): Bothrops asper (bottom of page, not safe for lunch).


Why oh why did my curiosity get the better of me. That is nasty. Serious snakes down there. I'm terrified of snakes. As cool as Belize was all I remember is the fear of a snake bite. Seeing a tarantula was a welcome site.
 
2012-11-12 10:43:51 PM

AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know


Actually, the reason bath salts make people crazy is because they act on the dopamine system of the brain in a novel way. It causes the brain to release drastically more dopamine than usual, and ALSO blocks the re-uptake of it. So what you have is a lot of dopamine sitting there triggering dopamine receptors and that lot of dopamine isn't going away. If you read up on serotonin syndrome, what happens with bath salts is pretty much dopamine syndrome.
 
2012-11-12 10:59:10 PM
McAfee did an interview with Wired while on the run: Link

He claims to have NO knowledge of his neighbors murder and says they were actually trying to kill him. He hid in the sand with a box over his head to breath while the police looked for him and says the police are out to kill him. Yet he still says Belize is the nicest place on earth and has no plans to leave.

This story gets more bizarre by the day. They will be making a movie out of this guys life. Johnny Depp as John McAfee?
 
2012-11-12 11:02:07 PM

Pribar: Damn between this guy and Hans Reiser computer geeks are gonna get a gangsta rep


frontalot.com

To late
 
2012-11-12 11:07:45 PM

litespeed74: Snarfangel: litespeed74: Saw this coming 2000 miles away. A little sooner than I'd expect though.
I'd figure he'd make it through Xmas.
If he's hiding in the jungles of Belize I think that's punishment enough. Plus the 15 different types of deadly snakes would probably get him first.

The fer-de-lance (Bothrops asper) is pretty nasty. Wikipedia shows what happens when you leave a bite untreated (or stupidly try to treat it with antibiotics): Bothrops asper (bottom of page, not safe for lunch).

Why oh why did my curiosity get the better of me. That is nasty. Serious snakes down there. I'm terrified of snakes. As cool as Belize was all I remember is the fear of a snake bite. Seeing a tarantula was a welcome site.


The only reason I had looked it up is because I'm visiting Belize at the end of the year, and I was told it was a snake that was native to the area. Needless to say, I will be careful! 

(Here in Oregon, I've ran into rattlesnakes before, and while I tend to give them a wide berth, I don't really have a phobia about them.)
 
2012-11-12 11:25:46 PM

gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.


I use AVAST! and recommend it highly. There are free and paid versions too.
 
2012-11-12 11:33:06 PM
Indeed, former friends of McAfee have said he could be extremely persistent and devious in trying to coerce women who rebuff his advances to have sex with him.

What a peach!
 
2012-11-12 11:46:28 PM
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net

RIP Mr. Faull. He owned a bar on the UCF campus which is frequented by alumni and students alike especially on game days. He was always very down the Earth and would always kick ass at cornhole. Nice guy, what a shame.
 
2012-11-12 11:59:04 PM

gulley: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7?


another vote for Microsoft Security Essentials, it's good, unobtrusive, free and pain in the ass free.
 
2012-11-13 12:04:44 AM

SoCalChris: Gordon Bennett: Wasn't McAfee the one that was detecting itself as a virus?

Wouldn't surprise me. I've seen several instances where McAffe just completely disabled the computer's network connection because, fark it, you weren't using that were you?


Oh frick, I just dealt with that hell. McAfee updated itself and when I restarted my laptop I had completely lost my internet connection. It said "local only." When I checked my device manager I found a problem with the teredo tunneling pseudo adapter. Ok, wtf is this shiat?! I spent countless hours (on another computer, not running McAfee) scouring the internet for solutions. I tried every solution I could find. Nothing worked. At first I found nothing helpful at McAfee's website, but eventually I found an article saying they released an update that caused many users to lose internet access. So I had to transfer a program to my laptop to fix it and it still didn't work. I got fed up decided to reinstall windows. It gave me an excuse to upgrade from vista anyways.


gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.


I like Webroot. I run both Webroot and McAfee and, for the most part, I like Webroot better. I like McAfee's Secure Search and SiteAdvisor, but it's a friggen resource hog. I rarely use it to do a full system scan because it takes a few hours and eats up my CPU. I have to turn off the real time scanner when I'm playing a game or running a lot of programs. Webroot, on the other hand, takes a few minutes to scan my computer and runs quietly in the background. Of course, both programs have f-ed up my computer. As I mentioned above, McAfee killed my internet. But I installed Webroot SecureAnywhere Essentials when it was a brand new program and it had to have had some sort of bug. Right after I installed it, my laptop wouldn't properly shut down or sleep. It was a crap shoot whether it would shut down or freeze. I often had to shut it down by holding the power switch. At first I didn't know whether it was a hardware or software issue but the timing was awfully suspicious. Eventually, the problem went away so I assumed it was fixed with an update. I don't want to scare you off though. I do recommend it. Unlike McAfee and Norton, I haven't seen anybody in this thread bashing Webroot.
 
2012-11-13 12:07:15 AM
And I thought the article was going to be about the update McAfee keeps pushing out breaking their own firewall, blocking internet access.

/atl100.dll
 
2012-11-13 12:07:37 AM

Hrist: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

Actually, the reason bath salts make people crazy is because they act on the dopamine system of the brain in a novel way. It causes the brain to release drastically more dopamine than usual, and ALSO blocks the re-uptake of it. So what you have is a lot of dopamine sitting there triggering dopamine receptors and that lot of dopamine isn't going away. If you read up on serotonin syndrome, what happens with bath salts is pretty much dopamine syndrome.


Dopamine, seratonin, you have to give me credit for remembering everything but the specific neurotransmitter. From my post:

"... which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake."

I was thinking of selective seratonin reuptake inhibitors, and thus confused seratonin with dopamine.

Thank you for the correction. I'll remember it.

Bottom line: JWH 018 is not the same thing as the so-called "bath salts." At least I got that right.
 
2012-11-13 12:09:40 AM

WienerButt: He was always very down the Earth and would always kick ass at cornhole.


NTTAWWT.
 
2012-11-13 12:12:05 AM
burncheese

burncheese: I got fed up decided to reinstall windows. It gave me an excuse to upgrade from vista anyways.


All you had to do was uninstall McAfee....
I work as tech support for my local cable company's cable internet, after the first 2-3 days of that we just started referring people to McAfee, but under most circumstances all you have to do is uninstall it, (Then McAfee support recommends you download it from their site and re install it).

In the past 2 Months there have been at least 3 distinct instances of our call center being flooded because "the internet was down" and it was all McAfee users.
 
2012-11-13 12:16:19 AM

fusillade762: toraque: So yeah, I can totally see that happening.

Faved. Is orange 3 OK?


So much this
 
2012-11-13 01:05:29 AM

AgentKGB: Spaghettiows: I wonder what malice Peter Norton is capable of.

[i.imgur.com image 300x300][i.imgur.com image 400x407]


I have or at least used to have a copy of that DOS 6 book. Probably buried somewhere in my parent's garage now.
 
2012-11-13 01:12:08 AM

Primum: The Shadow People are real, though. It just takes massive sleep dep or high doses of meth to open your "third-eye," as you will, to see this dimension that exists between ours and theirs.


i229.photobucket.com
i229.photobucket.com
i229.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-13 01:12:52 AM

NutznGum: lemortede: NutznGum: This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.

I think it refers to some of the hallucinations people have on meth. Some say they see shadowy people following them, spying on the from behind trees, etc...

I always called them Shadow People.

Ya, me too. 'Tree cops' sounds pretty dumb, although doing meth is infinitely more dumb. I'm glad I got out before I lost my mind. And my teeth and my my nice, clear skin, my home, friends and family, all my worldly possessions, etc.....


I am grateful I got out with my life too...
One time I was up for 10 days + and was really seeing things.
I ended up throwing a shadow people party...served refreshments and everything.
Made out with one shadow chick...might have some little shadow kid running around now...That was a really bad night.
 
2012-11-13 01:19:28 AM

lemortede: NutznGum: lemortede: NutznGum: This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.

I think it refers to some of the hallucinations people have on meth. Some say they see shadowy people following them, spying on the from behind trees, etc...

I always called them Shadow People.

Ya, me too. 'Tree cops' sounds pretty dumb, although doing meth is infinitely more dumb. I'm glad I got out before I lost my mind. And my teeth and my my nice, clear skin, my home, friends and family, all my worldly possessions, etc.....

I am grateful I got out with my life too...
One time I was up for 10 days + and was really seeing things.
I ended up throwing a shadow people party...served refreshments and everything.
Made out with one shadow chick...might have some little shadow kid running around now...That was a really bad night.


img87.imageshack.us
 
2012-11-13 01:27:12 AM

fatkidinabeenie: burncheeseburncheese: I got fed up decided to reinstall windows. It gave me an excuse to upgrade from vista anyways.

All you had to do was uninstall McAfee....
I work as tech support for my local cable company's cable internet, after the first 2-3 days of that we just started referring people to McAfee, but under most circumstances all you have to do is uninstall it, (Then McAfee support recommends you download it from their site and re install it).

In the past 2 Months there have been at least 3 distinct instances of our call center being flooded because "the internet was down" and it was all McAfee users.


Temporarily disabling it didn't work. I did actually uninstall it later, but I was already set on Windows 7 at that point. I flashed the bios before upgrading the OS and I had to disable any antivirus software first. Even if you use add/remove programs to uninstall McAfee, you have to install some sort of clean up tool to completely remove it, which is a huge pain in the ass when you have to transfer it from another computer. I didn't bother with that step because I was about to reformat anyway, but no, it did not bring my internet back. Although I may have f-ed things up worse by then. Long story short, I had two instances of the teredo tunneling pseudo adapter that weren't working and a third that was. Supposedly, uninstalling teredo via netsh and then reinstalling by adding legacy hardware in device manager should have solved the problem. Instead, teredo was not listed as a device to be installed, so the non-working two just disappeared and I couldn't get them back. Whatever, it doesn't matter now. I was running 32-bit Vista with a 64-bit processor anyway. 64-bit Windows 7 was looking way too tempting at that point and I'm glad I upgraded. First thing I did was install Webroot.
 
2012-11-13 01:32:36 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: They should also try him for a few million cases of murdering people's computers.


not to mention the piece of shiat that is there enterprise firewall product.
 
2012-11-13 01:41:02 AM

fusillade762: Primum: The Shadow People are real, though. It just takes massive sleep dep or high doses of meth to open your "third-eye," as you will, to see this dimension that exists between ours and theirs.

I thought that was DMT?

And what's with all the name calling in this thread?


No, DMT is the one where you meet magic elves from hyperspace.


DerekHoge: Answer: MacBook


What a marvelous idea. McAfee release a shiat antivirus, so I should immediately buy a new computer that I don't particularly like, throw out 17 years of accumulated software and exchange the various technical matters I have solved and learned to understand over that 17 year period for entirely new ones. Or spend ten minutes researching the best free antivirus and carry on as before.
 
2012-11-13 01:58:27 AM
My best McAfee story is when it thought svchost.exe was a virus. Funnest day at work ever.
 
2012-11-13 02:36:02 AM
McAfee and Norton are absolute crap. We wind up removing Norton about 80% of the time for corruption and McAfee just shy of 100% of the time on client computers.

MS Security Essentials is OK if you are a competent internet user and not a moron.

I have tested MSSE, NOD32, Vipre, AVG, AVAST, and Kaspersky in the field over time. Kaspersky beats all of them hands down. Out of the packages they make, the Internet Security seems to give the best performance overall. Their Pure package is buggy and causes problems with its extra bells and whistles, and the AV stand alone doesn't provide enough protection for your average user.

It has proven effective against the nastiest of rootkits and I have seen it thoroughly clean systems that other competitor shops said were going to need to be wiped.

I am always looking for a better tool to disinfect and protect computers. So far, Kaspersky is the only product that I have felt comfortable selling. Before I would make recommendations only, because there just wasn't a solid piece of software for me to put my reputation fully behind it.

We have a 95% recovery rate on machines that come into our business in terms of disinfection, and that means we don't wipe it. We use other tools than just Kaspersky, but a kaspersky rescue disk is one of our primary tools.

Products you should absolutely avoid: McAfee (anything), Norton (anything), Webroot (anything), Spyware Doctor (absolute crap rip-off ware)

Your mileage may vary, but this is based on the repair of thousands of machines.
 
2012-11-13 03:59:09 AM
Needs quarantine in a vault.
 
2012-11-13 05:31:45 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I use a Mac, so I don't have to worry about virii or getting murdered by antivirus pioneers.


A) It's "viruses"

B) There are viruses on macs, in the wild.
 
2012-11-13 05:33:40 AM

LavenderWolf: AverageAmericanGuy: I use a Mac, so I don't have to worry about virii or getting murdered by antivirus pioneers.

A) It's "viruses"

B) There are viruses on macs, in the wild.


Sure. They are called 'Parallels' and 'VMWare' and 'Bootcamp'. You end up with Windows malware.
 
2012-11-13 05:43:20 AM

gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.


The best defense is knowledge. The tech savvy need no antivirus constantly running on their systems. Knowing what not to do, the most important thing.
 
2012-11-13 06:39:04 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: LavenderWolf: AverageAmericanGuy: I use a Mac, so I don't have to worry about virii or getting murdered by antivirus pioneers.

A) It's "viruses"

B) There are viruses on macs, in the wild.

Sure. They are called 'Parallels' and 'VMWare' and 'Bootcamp'. You end up with Windows malware.


no u don't.
cause your a smart Mac user who doesn't retardely install browser toolbars, etc..
 
2012-11-13 06:40:56 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: LavenderWolf: AverageAmericanGuy: I use a Mac, so I don't have to worry about virii or getting murdered by antivirus pioneers.

A) It's "viruses"

B) There are viruses on macs, in the wild.

Sure. They are called 'Parallels' and 'VMWare' and 'Bootcamp'. You end up with Windows malware.


If you think that is the case then you are wrong. There are viruses which attack Apple computers specifically, and they are in the wild.
 
2012-11-13 07:02:24 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: LavenderWolf: AverageAmericanGuy: I use a Mac, so I don't have to worry about virii or getting murdered by antivirus pioneers.

A) It's "viruses"

B) There are viruses on macs, in the wild.

Sure. They are called 'Parallels' and 'VMWare' and 'Bootcamp'. You end up with Windows malware.


cdn.geckoandfly.com
 
2012-11-13 07:37:26 AM

burncheese: fatkidinabeenie: burncheeseburncheese: I got fed up decided to reinstall windows. It gave me an excuse to upgrade from vista anyways.

All you had to do was uninstall McAfee....
I work as tech support for my local cable company's cable internet, after the first 2-3 days of that we just started referring people to McAfee, but under most circumstances all you have to do is uninstall it, (Then McAfee support recommends you download it from their site and re install it).

In the past 2 Months there have been at least 3 distinct instances of our call center being flooded because "the internet was down" and it was all McAfee users.

Temporarily disabling it didn't work. I did actually uninstall it later, but I was already set on Windows 7 at that point. I flashed the bios before upgrading the OS and I had to disable any antivirus software first. Even if you use add/remove programs to uninstall McAfee, you have to install some sort of clean up tool to completely remove it, which is a huge pain in the ass when you have to transfer it from another computer. I didn't bother with that step because I was about to reformat anyway, but no, it did not bring my internet back. Although I may have f-ed things up worse by then. Long story short, I had two instances of the teredo tunneling pseudo adapter that weren't working and a third that was. Supposedly, uninstalling teredo via netsh and then reinstalling by adding legacy hardware in device manager should have solved the problem. Instead, teredo was not listed as a device to be installed, so the non-working two just disappeared and I couldn't get them back. Whatever, it doesn't matter now. I was running 32-bit Vista with a 64-bit processor anyway. 64-bit Windows 7 was looking way too tempting at that point and I'm glad I upgraded. First thing I did was install Webroot.


No temp disabling it dosen't work, and in my experience cleaning it, you don't always need the McAfee Consumer Product Removal Tool (MCPR.EXE) to fully remove it, but I have heard from people that the McAfee Virtual Technician McAfee recommends you run on your PC to fix that issue has Blue Screened some computers.

What have we all learned from this? DON'T USE McAFEE.

We offer Trend Micro to our Customers as a free antivirus for having our internet service, and I like it, honestly.
 
2012-11-13 07:41:23 AM
Oh and Yes there are Virus in the wild that affect MAC's. It is just harder to get them because the majority of people willing to pay for a Mac know what they are doing, at least historically. But as Mac's market share grows, you are starting to see some of the idiots buy Macs now too, so when they see the enter admin PW to install this "Toolbar/Free game/New awesome thing", that turns out to be a virus it still happens....
 
2012-11-13 08:37:47 AM

lemortede: NutznGum: lemortede: NutznGum: This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.

I think it refers to some of the hallucinations people have on meth. Some say they see shadowy people following them, spying on the from behind trees, etc...

I always called them Shadow People.

Ya, me too. 'Tree cops' sounds pretty dumb, although doing meth is infinitely more dumb. I'm glad I got out before I lost my mind. And my teeth and my my nice, clear skin, my home, friends and family, all my worldly possessions, etc.....

I am grateful I got out with my life too...
One time I was up for 10 days + and was really seeing things.
I ended up throwing a shadow people party...served refreshments and everything.
Made out with one shadow chick...might have some little shadow kid running around now...That was a really bad night.


What ever happened to good old fashioned Cocaine?

Kids these days.
 
2012-11-13 09:16:23 AM
Thanks for the suggestions, everyone who answered my question about antivirus programs! It's hard to know where to begin researching this stuff when you don't know where to begin, so I appreciate that you've all given me something to start with.
 
2012-11-13 09:30:58 AM
I don't understand this taking drugs thing. There's nothing illegal at all with what I did, which is to implants electrodes straight into my farking nucleus accumbens.
 
2012-11-13 10:29:27 AM

H31N0US: lemortede: NutznGum: lemortede: NutznGum: This Face Left Blank: WTF is a "Tree-Cop"? TFG doesn't help.

I think it refers to some of the hallucinations people have on meth. Some say they see shadowy people following them, spying on the from behind trees, etc...

I always called them Shadow People.

Ya, me too. 'Tree cops' sounds pretty dumb, although doing meth is infinitely more dumb. I'm glad I got out before I lost my mind. And my teeth and my my nice, clear skin, my home, friends and family, all my worldly possessions, etc.....

I am grateful I got out with my life too...
One time I was up for 10 days + and was really seeing things.
I ended up throwing a shadow people party...served refreshments and everything.
Made out with one shadow chick...might have some little shadow kid running around now...That was a really bad night.

What ever happened to good old fashioned Cocaine?

Kids these days.


Unless "These days" was 16 years ago... ...
 
2012-11-13 11:33:26 AM
I'm trying my hardest to form any sort of an opinion on this, best I can come up with is he moved to Belize, he's Belize's problem now. They'll do what they do.
 
2012-11-13 11:36:52 AM

fatkidinabeenie: Oh and Yes there are Virus in the wild that affect MAC's. It is just harder to get them because the majority of people willing to pay for a Mac know what they are doing, at least historically. But as Mac's market share grows, you are starting to see some of the idiots buy Macs now too, so when they see the enter admin PW to install this "Toolbar/Free game/New awesome thing", that turns out to be a virus it still happens....


According to the neckbeard contingent, only idiots buy macs.
 
2012-11-13 12:05:50 PM

LavenderWolf: AverageAmericanGuy: I use a Mac, so I don't have to worry about virii or getting murdered by antivirus pioneers.

A) It's "viruses"

B) There are viruses on macs, in the wild.


Drop the DB "Macs don't get viruses. Yes, they do, yes they can, and yes they will.

And not only the people that will hit every "install now" prompt. It is possible on the current OS to bypass the admin password and install malware without user interaction via Java scripting.

It will happen more and if the 100,000 Mac botnet that was only discovered because one guy decided to run an Antivirus program on his Mac, then there will be more. The other 99,999 most likely never had one installed because they were lulled into the false pretense that Macs don't get viruses/malware by Apple's own marketing.

While you may be "smart enough" to not hit Yes on every screen that pops up, there are 100,000 others who aren't. Those are the people that worry me. At least the Windows people know a scanner is necessary to protect themselves and others while the head-in-the-sand Mac people just think that Apple would never lead them astray and act morally superior while not having a clue about what they're talking about.

It's like having sex with woman and not wearing a condom because she says she's had her tubes tied so there's no way she can get pregnant.
 
2012-11-13 12:52:28 PM
So being really rich and getting blown by nubile Third World hookers doesn't suffice for happiness?

".....but sometimes that ain't enough
ta keep a man like me INTERESTED!
Uh uh! No way!"
 
2012-11-13 01:04:07 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: The question we should all be asking: Is it pronounced MAC-a-FEE, or Ma-CAFF-ee?



The answer is at 12:16 of the video at the bottom of this page.
 
2012-11-13 01:39:34 PM
they should lock him up for having that spyware like antivirus keep showing up on my computer every other week after I delete it
 
2012-11-13 02:40:24 PM

AgentKGB: Spaghettiows: I wonder what malice Peter Norton is capable of.

[i.imgur.com image 300x300][i.imgur.com image 400x407]


Well, John Denver once sawed through his bed with a chainsaw while his wife looked on in terror, so ...
 
2012-11-13 02:47:51 PM

fatkidinabeenie: No temp disabling it dosen't work, and in my experience cleaning it, you don't always need the McAfee Consumer Product Removal Tool (MCPR.EXE) to fully remove it, but I have heard from people that the McAfee Virtual Technician McAfee recommends you run on your PC to fix that issue has Blue Screened some computers.

What have we all learned from this? DON'T USE McAFEE.

We offer Trend Micro to our Customers as a free antivirus for having our internet service, and I like it, honestly.


Uninstalling McAfee did leave some services or whatever behind, so the removal tool would have been needed. I tried running the virtual technician but that was useless because it had to connect to the internet to work. I'm not sure I want to give it up though. There are some things I like about it.
 
2012-11-13 04:29:17 PM

LesserEvil: [i.imgur.com image 400x349]

WTF is wrong with these people who use bath salts?

He's wanted just for questioning apparently. Of course, when he was first raided for having a drug lab, he denied it and claimed the government of Belize was trying to squeeze him for money. Now we know he's been playing heavily with bath salts... and honestly, the leap to murder isn't that hard to imagine.

I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user who said it was the one thing he'd consider killing to get (thankfully, he's stepped away from it, and it's also no longer for sale here in this state).

The psychosis induced by these synthetics is way worse then the psychosis "natural" psychotics experience. It's not treatable, for starters. McAfee is toast. Once he leaped off that cliff, he was done. Spending your millions to play mad scientist with bath salts?? That's so far off the deep end, I'd have a hard time believing he wasn't guilty of killing this guy.


NutznGum: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

I read a great article about bath salts, they used a sink as an analogy. Meth turns on the faucet for serotonin and floods your brain with it. Coke doesn't turn the faucet on but plugs the sink, blocking the reuptake. Bath salts, plugs the sink AND turns on the faucet.


So its awesome? Im not sure what you are saying here.
 
2012-11-13 04:41:13 PM

spentshells: LesserEvil: [i.imgur.com image 400x349]

WTF is wrong with these people who use bath salts?

He's wanted just for questioning apparently. Of course, when he was first raided for having a drug lab, he denied it and claimed the government of Belize was trying to squeeze him for money. Now we know he's been playing heavily with bath salts... and honestly, the leap to murder isn't that hard to imagine.

I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user who said it was the one thing he'd consider killing to get (thankfully, he's stepped away from it, and it's also no longer for sale here in this state).

The psychosis induced by these synthetics is way worse then the psychosis "natural" psychotics experience. It's not treatable, for starters. McAfee is toast. Once he leaped off that cliff, he was done. Spending your millions to play mad scientist with bath salts?? That's so far off the deep end, I'd have a hard time believing he wasn't guilty of killing this guy.

NutznGum: AssAsInAssassin: LesserEvil: I recently talked to a former spice/bath salts user

"Spice" and bath salts are completely different drugs. I don't endorse either, but "Spice" is a synthetic cannibanoid that acts as a full agonist of the CB1 and CB2 receptors in the brain. "Bath salts" are a sort of hybrid methamphetamine/cocaine/opiate, which acts by releasing large amounts of seratonin and simultaneously preventing their reuptake.

/The more you know

I read a great article about bath salts, they used a sink as an analogy. Meth turns on the faucet for serotonin and floods your brain with it. Coke doesn't turn the faucet on but plugs the sink, blocking the reuptake. Bath salts, plugs the sink AND turns on the faucet.

So its awesome? Im not sure what you are saying here.


I realize this was directed at NutznGum, but... no. While "Spice" is by far the less dangerous of the drugs, it is still dangerous and has caused quite a few people a lot of misery, especially people who thought it was as safe as weed. Siezures, ongoing mental disturbance, paranoia, etc. So-called bath salts have been known to cause long-term psychosis. Patients treated with anti-psychotic drugs responded well, until they were taken off the anti-psychotics. Then the psychosis returned.

I'm generally in favor of legalization of drugs, but bath salts especially are so farkin' dangerous, the people who make and sell them should be locked up.
 
2012-11-15 11:48:21 AM

AssAsInAssassin:

I'm not a chemist. I read an article once.


Drugs are bad, yo.

I'm not a chemist either, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
 
2012-11-15 11:52:30 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.

There are a few out there that are good enough. But these days, if you don't open every goddamned thing people send you in email and don't surf websites that are shady, you're probably fine with Microsoft Security Essentials which is provided for free from Microsoft.


I used to have Norton and I got Vundo/Virtumonde anyway. Didn't think the website i was surfing was *that* shady; I'd gone there many times in the past. Managed to rescue some data, but then I had to reformat to get rid of it -- Norton sat there and did nothing (and yes it was up to date.) Now I have MSE, and NoScript for Firefox.
 
2012-11-15 03:15:22 PM

PsyMar: AverageAmericanGuy: gulley: Here's a serious question, if anybody feels like being helpful: what's a good antivirus program to use for a PC with Windows 7? Do all the antivirus programs out there suck? Are there any good ones? I have McAfee, and it slows my computer way down. I'm not really a computer guy, and I have no idea about this stuff. I only use McAfee because it came with the computer.

There are a few out there that are good enough. But these days, if you don't open every goddamned thing people send you in email and don't surf websites that are shady, you're probably fine with Microsoft Security Essentials which is provided for free from Microsoft.

I used to have Norton and I got Vundo/Virtumonde anyway. Didn't think the website i was surfing was *that* shady; I'd gone there many times in the past. Managed to rescue some data, but then I had to reformat to get rid of it -- Norton sat there and did nothing (and yes it was up to date.) Now I have MSE, and NoScript for Firefox.


That's what I actually like about McAfee. The Secure Search and SiteAdvisor prevent that sort of thing. If I accidentally click a link to a bad site or mistype an address that would take me somewhere sketchy, I get this "Woah, are sure sure you want to go there?" page. I normally know not to click popup ads or open suspicious attachments, but I've clicked bad links by accident and been saved a few times. If you do a search, every link shows a green checkmark if it's okay, a yellow exclamation point if it's somewhat risky, a red x if it's really bad, or a question mark if it hasn't been tested. You can read a report on every site.
 
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