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2012-11-12 04:15:49 PM  
8 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: How did you get there?

They do a shiatty wasteful job that other people do well so they are getting their funding cut. Total dollars to the projects are not being cut, Planned Parenthood just isn't getting a cut.


For once in your life take off your blinders and regard this for exactly what it is; punishing Planned Parenthood yet again for daring to offer a federally-protected service by cutting off necessary funding for other services. Ironically, these clinics don't even offer that service, just referrals. TFA specifically says none of this is supported by actual facts, and given the gauntlet of neanderthal reasons for cutting funding to PP that have originated in these red states, I think the onus of proof now falls on the agency that has decided to purposefully withhold aid to low-income families.

Here's a better article, anyway. Pretty much supports the "They're being douches" angle.
2012-11-12 07:46:28 PM  
5 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Sorry but the Tulsa World backs me up.


Then post a farking source.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but you have exactly zero credibility with the vast majority of users on this site owing to the fact that you spend most of your time here blindly cheerleading for your team along purely partisan lines on ever single goddamn issue. Anything you say is worth exactly camel spit as far as most of us are concerned so if you plan to have anybody take you even remotely seriously, especially regarding an issue like this where the far-right has expended so much effort demonizing and attacking a perfectly legitimate and important health organization because it dares to provide access to a legal medical procedure that bible thumpers don't care for, you're going to have to verify your commentary with third person, respectable sources.

tl;dr: you're a liar so if you expect anybody to give half a shiat about your opinions you better back them up with cited facts
2012-11-12 07:06:40 PM  
4 votes:
I feel sorry for any normal person who has to live in Oklahoma and needs services.

What's really sad is, if they get away with this nonsense with Planned Parenthood, they'll go after other agencies next.
2012-11-12 09:05:46 PM  
3 votes:

Silly Jesus: "They won't let us give people free shiat, WAAAAAH!"


Silly Jesus, I've got a serious question for you: This is the internet. It's completely anonymous. On Fark, you can be anything you want to be. Knowing you can choose to be anything, why on earth would you choose to be a farking retard?
2012-11-12 08:36:07 PM  
3 votes:

Silly Jesus: Taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize those who would terminate children or those who encourage it.


The cost of an abortion is tiny compared to the cost of raising an unwanted child via social services (foster care, WIC, etc.). Why do Republicans fight so hard to allow kids to be born and yet do not want to offer assistance in raising the unplanned child?
2012-11-12 07:48:38 PM  
3 votes:
No hope for this thread, I see.

/wanders off...
2012-11-12 07:18:21 PM  
3 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: How did you get there?


Oklahoma is a republican controlled state.
Republicans have been on a bender of trying to defund Planned Parenthood because of abortion.
Republicans are not above lying to do so.

How did subby get there? A better question is how did you NOT get there.
2012-11-12 08:45:55 PM  
2 votes:
"Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain."

Let's add "we object to tax dollars being used for medical operations of choice; and the socialists accuse us of being against medicine in its entirety".

Personally, I'd rather our handouts go straight to the people who need the assistance rather than filter through some convoluted bureaucracy, but I'm pretty sure most Republicans would go into conniptions about the idea of being able to apply for an abortion credit.
2012-11-12 08:39:11 PM  
2 votes:
i566.photobucket.com
2012-11-12 08:13:18 PM  
2 votes:
I live on tulsa.

The Tulsa world says the opposite of what stealthhippo has to say.

/hope to god gov Fallin accepts the Medicaid expansion
//funny how red state Oklahoma where I live is a welfare state subsidized by the blue states
///pointing this out to my friends makes them go all Jesus/socialism on me.

They don't even accept th fact that we recieve more money from the Feds than we take in, welcome to the bubble.
2012-11-12 08:05:52 PM  
2 votes:

clowncar on fire: Karac: The Stealth Hippopotamus: How did you get there?

Oklahoma is a republican minority controlled state.
Republicans Minorities have been on a bender of trying to defund Planned Parenthood because of abortion.
Republicans Minorites are not above lying to do so.*

How did subby get there? A better question is how did you NOT get there.

*We've substituted the word "republican" for the word "minorities". Les's see if anyone can see the difference...

Seriously though. This sort of post no worse then any of the other of the racist comments posted around here so let's get our little indignant motors fired up and start calling people out on this stuff when we see it. I like you, Silly Jesus but you're sometimes like that friend that's had one too many and doesn't know when to give it a rest. Persuasion, dude. Hearts and minds.

Great thread otherwise, guys. Seems like people are listening tonight instead of slinging mud everywhere.

Cheers.


Except unlike "minorities," Republicans HAVE been making a concerted effort to defund Planned Parenthood. I'm not even gonna source it because you obviously already know.
2012-11-12 07:48:10 PM  
2 votes:
I can't wait until my kid goes off to college so I can move away from OK.
2012-11-12 07:40:30 PM  
2 votes:
PP does not necessarily offer all services but it does referrals to clinics they think are OK, and pushes referrals strongly. So the poor woman who's in for birth control pills is strongly pushed to go get a pap smear, mammogram or what have you.

Not getting preggo is a great incentive to go have some uncomfortable medical molesting done at a decent clinic. In the long run, it's way less expensive and painful than reproduction.

Then if cancer or another condition is caught early, the medical care required will be cheaper than the alternative. Such as, somebody has full-blown stage 4 cancer and it costs 10s of thousands of dollars to drag their miserable life out for a year or two. And somebody has to pay for it, often taxpayers.

To sum up, let's support women's health and control over their fertility, so fund PP. (and remember kids, you'll be saving on welfare down the line if less unwanted children are born.)
2012-11-12 07:36:34 PM  
2 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Sorry but the Tulsa World backs me up. They're doing a bad job. Guess what? You shouldn't get the funding if you're doing a bad job with it. The only thing that leads you to believe that it's politically motivated is the head of Planned Parenthood saying it is. And what are they suppose to do? Admit they are messing up and the state is in the right?! Planned Parenthood has been Planned Parenthood for a long long time and the State of Oklahoma has been the State of Oklahoma longer than that. What has changed? It claims the department has violated the organization's First and 14th Amendment rights "by imposing a penalty on its advocacy for access to safe and legal abortion services, referrals for abortion and/or its association with abortion services." Did Planned Parenthood just start giving abortions? (the answer is no) So they got the funding when they had these political ideals and now they dont have the funding and still have those political ideals. It will be fun watching them try to explain that in a court of law. Well nothing has changed other than they have proof we are doing a bad job! Give us out funding back!!

I know it's really weird for a government program to use logic. But I'll take a win any time I can. And improving government efficiency is a win.

Although caseload numbers had been falling, they were on the rise at the time the contract was terminated. Also, the organization is routinely audited and its most recent audit did not raise concerns about its performance, according to the court filing.

Cost per participant was slightly higher because clinics were open for extended hours and occasionally on the weekends. The department never told the organization its costs were too high and if it had, Planned Parenthood would have worked to reduce them, according to the filing.


The linked, expanded articles occasionally have some real gems in them. Try reading them all the way down.
2012-11-12 07:25:03 PM  
2 votes:

CapeFearCadaver: Rent Party: This was an excellent article.

Elandriel gave a link to a much better article above. The one subby used sucks.


Ah! A couple of facts...

Although caseload numbers had been falling, they were on the rise at the time the contract was terminated. Also, the organization is routinely audited and its most recent audit did not raise concerns about its performance, according to the court filing.

Cost per participant was slightly higher because clinics were open for extended hours and occasionally on the weekends. The department never told the organization its costs were too high and if it had, Planned Parenthood would have worked to reduce them, according to the filing.


Smells like an abortion witchunt to me.
2012-11-12 07:23:47 PM  
2 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: So they got the funding when they had these political ideals and now they dont have the funding and still have those political ideals. It will be fun watching them try to explain that in a court of law. Well nothing has changed other than they have proof we are doing a bad job! Give us out funding back!!


The Stealth Hippopotamus: They do a shiatty wasteful job that other people do well so they are getting their funding cut.


What color is the sky in your world?

Planned Parenthood, somehow, kept their government contracts for nearly two decades. So, either they suddenly got really bad at their job of the political climate changed. Seeing as how their most recent audit showed no serious issues, I'll go with political climate. And, given the fact that they were knowingly staying open on weekends and holidays, it would seem the costs are expected. They weren't even told about any cost issues nor given a chance to rectify any issues (even if they had shown up.

But, I think your gut really tells you PP was in the wrong. And, that's all that matters.
2012-11-12 07:20:00 PM  
2 votes:
The Women, Infant and Children program provides supplemental nutrition assistance to low-income women who are pregnant or have recently given birth, as well as to children younger than 5.

Well, there's your problem, I don't see the word fetus anywhere in their mission statement.
2012-11-12 07:11:10 PM  
2 votes:

Silly Jesus: "They won't let us give people free shiat, WAAAAAH!"


Well, yes. Hungry babies and young children do, indeed, cry. Quite often, actually.
2012-11-12 07:08:59 PM  
2 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: How did you get there?.


"Hello? Hey Matt, how's it going? Congratulations on your election! Listen, my son, he ain't very bright, but he works hard and is a good boy, you sure you don't have space in your team for one more man in the office?".
2012-11-13 03:03:18 AM  
1 votes:

clowncar on fire: Theytend to rise up and take shiat by any means necessary when they get really hungry. There would be no "just letting them die"


I was going to point this out. You would just end up with a bunch of people in jail for breaking the law to feed themselves. Then you'd have to pay to feed and house them. It's counterproductive as well as immoral.

But I'm through trying to engage with Silly. Next stop Plonksville. Again.
2012-11-13 02:36:05 AM  
1 votes:
Subby throws the word rape around very carelessly.
2012-11-13 12:15:27 AM  
1 votes:

clowncar on fire: I do believe that there are a good sized segmant of the poor that would work if partially subsidized for the shortfall they would expirience by accepting low waged jobs: by nature most people enjoy the pride of accomplishment and reward rather than the feeling of indeptitude that would accompany living off others- for those, I might add, who have not been conditioned to to point of entitlement.

I would not personally recommend the starving them out method however- people just don't sit and die of whatever life circumstance has put them where they are. Theytend to rise up and take shiat by any means necessary when they get really hungry. There would be no "just letting them die"


Both of these. People would love to work, and probably prefer it. One of the infuriating things about welfare and general relief assistance isn't that it's "free money" but that it gets cut so drastically when people do return to work, and so fast. A single person gets about $600 per month on GR...but they can only make $200 per month above that. Anything more, and they lose about half their assistance IMMEDIATELY. So what incentive does a person on GR have to find a job? If you were making $800 a month, and knew if you got a job that paid you $400 a month your net income would DROP...why would you ever want to find a better job? Of course, you wouldn't. You'd stay at the same crappy $200/mo job and take your GR and hope someday you'd find that $1500/mo job that would let you get off relief without dying.

But if welfare was summarily cut off tomorrow for everyone--yeah, you'd see some heavy-duty looting and stealing. "Qu'ils mangent la brioche" didn't work too well the first time, either.
2012-11-13 12:13:49 AM  
1 votes:

clowncar on fire: fusillade762: Silly Jesus: fusillade762: Silly Jesus: Taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize those who would terminate children or those who encourage it.

Terminating them with poverty and starvation is A-OK, though.

Hunger is a heck of a motivating factor in getting a job. A check in the mailbox each month isn't. If they choose suicide through laziness / learned helplessness, so be it. We're better off without them. What exactly is society gaining by subsidizing their existence?

So people who can't afford food should be allowed to starve to death? Got it.

I agree with this first part. At some point Clinton had endorsed legislation that reduced subsides for the poor. There wasn't a whole lot of name calling or gnashing of teeth: people who were able to work simply went back to work. Those who didn't alowed us a brief realistic glance at who should and shouldn't have been on the roles.

Farkers have no problem railing out educators for handing out stars for to students for remembering to breath, often referring to this as enabling entitlement behavior. Exist and you get rewarded. For those with kids, you know that even your kids recognize a certain inequality in terms of rewarding everyone in lieu of the exceptional behavior of the few. How much of a stretch is it to recognize that giving unconditional support could not but create an entitled class of people - and by entitled, I mean with the expectation of support without any strings or returned responsibility?

I do believe that there are a good sized segmant of the poor that would work if partially subsidized for the shortfall they would expirience by accepting low waged jobs: by nature most people enjoy the pride of accomplishment and reward rather than the feeling of indeptitude that would accompany living off others- for those, I might add, who have not been conditioned to to point of entitlement.

I would not personally recommend the starving them out method however- people just don't sit and die of whatever life circumstance has put them where they are. Theytend to rise up and take shiat by any means necessary when they get really hungry. There would be no "just letting them die"


If you really want to see a significant decrease in this dependancy, you have to make jobs worth it. If I can get $600 in benefits or go work for Papa John less than 30 hours a week and make like $750 a month, what is the damn point?

Double the minimum wage, I bet that would give some people incentive to work a shiatty job.
2012-11-12 11:40:50 PM  
1 votes:

nmemkha: Silly Jesus: Taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize those who would terminate children or those who encourage it.

The cost of an abortion is tiny compared to the cost of raising an unwanted child via social services (foster care, WIC, etc.). Why do Republicans fight so hard to allow kids to be born and yet do not want to offer assistance in raising the unplanned child?


Because Jeezus.
2012-11-12 11:23:57 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Keizer_Ghidorah: Don't want abortions? Then teach sex education and contraceptive use, along with easier access to contraceptives.

And knock it off with the religious shaming and shrieking about how evil, immoral, against God, etc the act of sex is. All of the opposition to sex, contraceptives, abortion, and education is religious-based, and they're afraid of losing their power and influence over people when those people view sex as normal and nothing to be ashamed of and engage in it intelligently and safely.

if we do that can we keep the shame-on-you-for-having-a-kid-you-can't-afford stuff?


If they didn't use their intelligence and the easily-available contraceptives, I suppose.
2012-11-12 11:22:44 PM  
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: fusillade762: Silly Jesus: Taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize those who would terminate children or those who encourage it.

Terminating them with poverty and starvation is A-OK, though.

Hunger is a heck of a motivating factor in getting a job. A check in the mailbox each month isn't. If they choose suicide through laziness / learned helplessness, so be it. We're better off without them. What exactly is society gaining by subsidizing their existence?


So people who can't afford food should be allowed to starve to death? Got it.
2012-11-12 10:51:13 PM  
1 votes:
Don't want abortions? Then teach sex education and contraceptive use, along with easier access to contraceptives.

And knock it off with the religious shaming and shrieking about how evil, immoral, against God, etc the act of sex is. All of the opposition to sex, contraceptives, abortion, and education is religious-based, and they're afraid of losing their power and influence over people when those people view sex as normal and nothing to be ashamed of and engage in it intelligently and safely.

Also, you might want to ask God to stop killing hundreds of thousands of fertilized eggs every year by not letting them attach to the uterine wall, and stop killing thousands of fetuses every year with miscarriages and other complications.
2012-11-12 10:01:58 PM  
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Nobodyn0se: Silly Jesus: I'm glad I'm not either...I'm allergic to crayons.

And books, apparently.

Just the coloring ones. Which one is your favorite?

Thought you were ignoring me, you silly goose.


The devil thought is born in your penis mind:
i18.photobucket.com

Is That So?

The Zen master Hakuin was praised by his neighbours as one living a pure life.

A beautiful Japanese girl whose parents owned a food store lived near him. Suddenly, without any warning, her parents discovered she was with child.

This made her parents angry. She would not confess who the man was, but after much harassment at last named Hakuin.

In great anger the parent went to the master. "Is that so?" was all he would say.

After the child was born it was brought to Hakuin. By this time he had lost his reputation, which did not trouble him, but he took very good care of the child. He obtained milk from his neighbours and everything else he needed.

A year later the girl-mother could stand it no longer. She told her parents the truth - the real father of the child was a young man who worked in the fishmarket.

The mother and father of the girl at once went to Hakuin to ask forgiveness, to apologize at length, and to get the child back.

Hakuin was willing. In yielding the child, all he said was: "Is that so?"
2012-11-12 09:57:34 PM  
1 votes:
A great way for me to judge how much concentrated derp is in a thread, is by how many posts disappear when I click on it. It says 109, I only see 35. That's a shiat-load of derp, right there.
2012-11-12 09:34:45 PM  
1 votes:

nmemkha: nmemkha: clowncar on fire: [derp]

Sanctity of life? You then why do people like you want children to go hungry?

You're just another hypocrite like the rest, practicing bigotry under guise of benevolence.


I explained the rational, I didn't write it myself. In theory anyone who wanted and cared to bring a child into this world would protect that child at all costs, which might include putting that child ahead of yur personal desires to insure that child was fed. If you couldn't do that- why would you bother to even make a child in the first place. Again these beliefs come from old values assuming that: one was prepared for a lifetime of responsibility when conceiving a child and that one was committed enough to care for that child. Doesn't necessarily always hold true but a little more sound in judgement then "let's hope the rubber don't break again".
2012-11-12 09:30:13 PM  
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: I'm glad I'm not either...I'm allergic to crayons.


And books, apparently.
2012-11-12 09:22:55 PM  
1 votes:

clowncar on fire: [derp]


Sanctity of life? You then why do people like want children to go hungry?

You're just another hypocrite like the rest, practicing bigotry under guise of benevolence.
2012-11-12 09:21:51 PM  
1 votes:

Ed Grubermann: Nobodyn0se: I'm wondering why that is.

Because people pay attention to him. Just like any other troll. He's here for the attention and he's found a pretty good schtick, all things considered.


I'm not a troll and I still get people to pay attention to me. If I can do it, why can't he?
2012-11-12 09:18:14 PM  
1 votes:

clowncar on fire: Sanctity of life.


Sure. If you say so.

That being said, I in principal, agree with Silly Jesus, that those who oppose abortions on moral grounds- the conscientous objectors in the moral war as it were-- should not have to fund them.

My taxes pay for lots of things I find morally objectionable. That's the price you pay for living in a first-world country.
2012-11-12 09:03:48 PM  
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: Silly Jesus: Taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize those who would terminate children or those who encourage it.

Yea, it's not like there's any federal laws banning that or anything...

banning funding for abortions as birth control. Federal Medicaid funds cover rape, incest and life of the mother exceptions

It shouldn't be OK for rape. God's intent is not to be questioned.


Farking amateur
2012-11-12 08:52:48 PM  
1 votes:

skullkrusher: YoungSwedishBlonde: Silly Jesus: Taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize those who would terminate children or those who encourage it.

Yea, it's not like there's any federal laws banning that or anything...

banning funding for abortions as birth control. Federal Medicaid funds cover rape, incest and life of the mother exceptions


And...? Abortion is cheaper than welfare for the f*ck trophy.
2012-11-12 08:30:58 PM  
1 votes:

clowncar on fire: Karac: The Stealth Hippopotamus: How did you get there?

Oklahoma is a republican minority controlled state.
Republicans Minorities have been on a bender of trying to defund Planned Parenthood because of abortion.
Republicans Minorites are not above lying to do so.*

How did subby get there? A better question is how did you NOT get there.

*We've substituted the word "republican" for the word "minorities". Les's see if anyone can see the difference...

Seriously though. This sort of post no worse then any of the other of the racist comments posted around here so let's get our little indignant motors fired up and start calling people out on this stuff when we see it. I like you, Silly Jesus but you're sometimes like that friend that's had one too many and doesn't know when to give it a rest. Persuasion, dude. Hearts and minds.

Great thread otherwise, guys. Seems like people are listening tonight instead of slinging mud everywhere.

Cheers.


Is the state legislature of Oklahama controlled by Republicans, or is it not? Is the governor a republican, or is she not?
Have republicans tried dozens of times in the last year or two to defund Planned Parenthood and have they passed several laws severely restricting access to abortion or have they not? Has or has not the Republican majority Senate in Oklahoma passed a fetus personhood bill?
Have Republicans lied about Planned Parenthood in order to drum up support for destroying it, or have they not? Do you not remember when a republican lawmaker said 97% of what planned parenthood does is abortion, then later admitted to pulling that straight out of his asshole?

Sure, you can repost what I said and change one word for another, but I didn't see anywhere in your comment where you refuted a damn thing I claimed. It's not mudslinging if it's backed up by facts.
2012-11-12 08:15:26 PM  
1 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Sorry but the Tulsa World backs me up.

Then post a farking source.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but you have exactly zero credibility with the vast majority of users on this site owing to the fact that you spend most of your time here blindly cheerleading for your team along purely partisan lines on ever single goddamn issue.


I don't know his name from the politics tab. I DO know it from the vast amount of cleavage he spews out in the occasional thread. He has a lot of credibility there.
2012-11-12 08:05:44 PM  
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: Kittypie070: Silly Jesus forces his children to pay cash for every meal they eat that's cooked at home.

If they run out of their coal mine salary they have to eat their own bootstraps.

Then he forces them to clean the street with their tongues and feeds them a lump of cold poison.

What's cold poison?


Refrigerated arsenic, you cold-hearted bastard; they're kids for crying out loud.
2012-11-12 08:05:20 PM  
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Sorry but the Tulsa World backs me up. They're doing a bad job. Guess what? You shouldn't get the funding if you're doing a bad job with it. The only thing that leads you to believe that it's politically motivated is the head of Planned Parenthood saying it is. And what are they suppose to do? Admit they are messing up and the state is in the right?! Planned Parenthood has been Planned Parenthood for a long long time and the State of Oklahoma has been the State of Oklahoma longer than that. What has changed? It claims the department has violated the organization's First and 14th Amendment rights "by imposing a penalty on its advocacy for access to safe and legal abortion services, referrals for abortion and/or its association with abortion services." Did Planned Parenthood just start giving abortions? (the answer is no) So they got the funding when they had these political ideals and now they dont have the funding and still have those political ideals. It will be fun watching them try to explain that in a court of law. Well nothing has changed other than they have proof we are doing a bad job! Give us out funding back!!

I know it's really weird for a government program to use logic. But I'll take a win any time I can. And improving government efficiency is a win.


i18.photobucket.com

No Water, No Moon

When the nun Chiyono studied Zen under Bukko of Engaku she was unable to attain the fruits of meditation for a long time.

At last one moonlit night she was carrying water in an old pail bound with bamboo. The bamboo broke and the bottom fell out of the pail, and at that moment Chiyono was set free!

In commemoration, she wrote a poem:

In this way and that I tried to save the old pail
Since the bamboo strip was weakening and about
to break
Until at last the bottom fell out.
No more water in the pail!
No more moon in the water!
2012-11-12 08:05:10 PM  
1 votes:

coyo: Kittypie070: Silly Jesus forces his children to pay cash for every meal they eat that's cooked at home.

Silly Jesus is effectively a bot. Don't expect any scintillating analysis from it.


Did you not get the memo? Silly Jesus will donate $10 to Planned Parenthood for every person who bites on one of their trolls.
2012-11-12 08:00:15 PM  
1 votes:
Let this be a lesson to you, wimmins. If you get uppity with a man, he will make it his goal to injure you through any means available to him. Because that's just what a Southern gentleman does.

/So tired of these assholes
2012-11-12 07:57:59 PM  
1 votes:

Silly Jesus: "They won't let us give people free shiat, WAAAAAH!"


Line up for the yellow brigade.
2012-11-12 07:49:57 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: Kittypie070: Silly Jesus forces his children to pay cash for every meal they eat that's cooked at home.

If they run out of their coal mine salary they have to eat their own bootstraps.


Then he forces them to clean the street with their tongues and feeds them a lump of cold poison.
2012-11-12 07:49:10 PM  
1 votes:
Silly Jesus is as Silly Jesus does.
2012-11-12 07:36:36 PM  
1 votes:

Kittypie070: Silly Jesus forces his children to pay cash for every meal they eat that's cooked at home.


If they run out of their coal mine salary they have to eat their own bootstraps.
2012-11-12 07:35:25 PM  
1 votes:

Kittypie070: Silly Jesus forces his children to pay cash for every meal they eat that's cooked at home.


Silly Jesus is effectively a bot. Don't expect any scintillating analysis from it.
2012-11-12 07:24:26 PM  
1 votes:
Silly Jesus forces his children to pay cash for every meal they eat that's cooked at home.
 
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