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(Fox News)   Evidence mounting that Benghazi U.S. consulate was attacked because its annex was a CIA detention facility   (foxnews.com) divider line 244
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2012-11-12 03:09:20 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.



Thank you for that insightful commentary, Lt. Weasel.
 
2012-11-12 03:10:42 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.


What do they call two levels below "phoning it in?"
 
2012-11-12 03:11:43 PM  

LordJiro: Wise_Guy: bronyaur1: Attention All Redneck Wingnuts,

No.
Body.
Cares.

Get over it.

/perhaps you would prefer to spend your outrage on a completely needless invasion of Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of people. If this doesn't bother that much, then kindly stick your Faux News Benghazi outrage straight up your ass. 

So this doesn't matter because Iraq was worse?

Invading a country on false pretenses, causing thousands of American deaths and countless civilian deaths (allowing the terrorist group that actually attacked us to not only get away with attacking us, but to actually get *stronger* in the process) is, in fact, a bigger deal than four people dying at a consulate in an unstable nation. Again, far more Americans died in consulates and embassies under most recent Presidents, even limiting it to first terms...and we barely heard a peep about most of 'em.

The outrage over Benghazi is just another example of Republicans trying to make something, ANYTHING, stick. It's partisan desperation, and nothing more.


That may be so, but I don't see any reason not to investigate it whether the situation turns out to be politically unfavorable to Obama or not.
 
2012-11-12 03:11:54 PM  
LordJiro:

The outrage over Benghazi is just another example of Republicans trying to make something, ANYTHING, stick. It's partisan desperation, and nothing more.

I'm anything but Republican and I'm outraged the CIA holding facility was there at all. Perhaps you need a larger brush and more deftness in wielding it?
 
2012-11-12 03:14:43 PM  
PlatinumDragon:

What? People might attack foreign facilities being used as prisons in an attempt to free their comrades?

This is clearly Zerobama's fault. No one else would have conceived of such a thing before his misrule. I'm reluctantly voting Romney.


Wow, your time machine WORKS?
 
2012-11-12 03:15:25 PM  
So our brave SEALs died
then Obama lied... to protect a secret CIA operation?

And that lie was the best he could come up with?
 
2012-11-12 03:15:28 PM  
The US is still torturing people but it doesn't matter because something something Bush, something something Issa, something something Fox and Teapublicans are racist.

Don't get me wrong, I mean I am in favor of torture, but it just seems pretty pathetic that so many staunch advocates of human rights are willing to look the other way.........in favor of what though?

What do you have to gain by abandoning your principles to live a life of philosophical poverty?
 
2012-11-12 03:16:12 PM  

JelloBAfro: vernonFL: Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the Berlin discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi.

Miss any?


RATM?
 
2012-11-12 03:16:24 PM  

Giltric: Don't get me wrong, I mean I am in favor of torture


I got you wrong.
 
2012-11-12 03:16:46 PM  

PreMortem: So it was a military operation to free their comrades and not a terrorist attack. Obama was correct in not calling it a terrorist attack.

You lose again GOP.


Can you people make up your farking mind? First he blamed a Youtube video, then Obama and the Pillsbury Doughgirl said it was during the debate. Now we're back to "he didn't say it"
 
2012-11-12 03:17:19 PM  
Is it just me, or does it seem like every time the CIA is involved in a debacle, the agents are the center of it are Republicans?
 
2012-11-12 03:17:23 PM  
tmonsta:

So when is General Petraeus going to get the Bradley Manning treatment? Or do those rules only apply to lower ranking members of the military?

THIS.
 
2012-11-12 03:17:53 PM  
Yeah. Forgetting for a second that this is FOX NEWS, and the old and tired Benghazi-gate...

1. CIA isn't supposed to be detaining anyone anymore in clandestine prisons, as per executive order.
2. If the reason for the attack was to free the prisoners, that's some serious poop. It makes sense, but I can see why no one would want to admit to that... because of point 1 above.
3. If Broadwell actually said this publicly AND it was the truth (that's some big IF), she's a moron. And displaying that she knew too much from Petraeus.

This actually is slightly reminiscent of the Plame scandal. Except the leaked information wasn't intended as a smear. In both cases (this one more so IF it's all true) malfeasance in the government, but in both cases, there is little likelihood of the President's knowledge (except maybe after the fact).

I don't think it's in the President's purview to expose the CIA to holding prisoners. Actually, it would run counter to national security to do so. I would be very disappointed if he hadn't done something behind the scenes to "remedy" that mistake, but how would we ever know what he did. Perhaps Petraeus was wise to fall on his sword at this juncture.
 
2012-11-12 03:17:55 PM  

whidbey: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.

What do they call two levels below "phoning it in?"


Robo-trolling, although that may be the level below "phoning it in".
 
2012-11-12 03:18:16 PM  
Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards
 
2012-11-12 03:18:35 PM  
This is the worst October surprise ever..
 
2012-11-12 03:18:36 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Evidence is mounting alright, but the evidence indicates that FOX News is utterly full of shiat.


The problem is that there are legitimate questions to be asked and answered here, but the sheer volume of noise and utter bullshiat out there makes it very unlikely that they will be asked or answered
 
2012-11-12 03:18:47 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.


~3000 people died in 9/11, and, unlike Obama with Benghazi, Bush let the organization that perpetrated the attacks get away with them (until a Democrat came along to clean up his mess). And Bush got reelected.

Republicans pretending to care about Americans dying is laughable.
 
2012-11-12 03:19:05 PM  
So obama lied to us?


Say it "ain't" so!!
 
2012-11-12 03:20:36 PM  

fireclown: This is the worst October surprise ever..


Try Pickle Surprise instead.
 
2012-11-12 03:21:05 PM  

s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.


As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?
 
2012-11-12 03:21:09 PM  

StopLurkListen: BENGHAZI!!!!!

You Republicans have gone to that well too many times. It's in the same bin as VINCE FOSTER!!!! TRAVELGATE!!!! CLIMATEGATE!!!! TROOPERGATE!!!! BLACK PANTHERS!!!! ACORN!!!! REFRIGERATORS!!!! (either "thousands of dollars in a", or "99% of poor people have")

I feel like participating in American Democracy requires memorizing a phone book's worth of pointless scandal trivia, and almost all of it entirely fictional. Like a pro-Wrestling television program.


It's OK. All you have to do is say you don't believe in any one of the conspiracies, or in any one of the Republican policies, and you're labelled the libbiest lib that ever libbed a lib. shiat, liberal isn't even the insult de jour, it's "moderate".
 
2012-11-12 03:21:28 PM  

zackthebass: vernonFL: Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the (Berlin) discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi. 

I feel like I'm missing one in the last sentence.


Fugazi
 
2012-11-12 03:21:37 PM  

Giltric: What do you have to gain by abandoning your principles to live a life of philosophical poverty?


fewer countries invaded with long term occupations.
 
2012-11-12 03:22:44 PM  

Glenford: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.

You've been so insightful in the past. Please, continue


austinisafecker.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-12 03:24:06 PM  
I thought we stopped rendition?
 
2012-11-12 03:24:07 PM  

WhyKnot: As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?


Sure. But this is the sort of thing that tends to happen when Media outlets as a whole- left and right of center- decide that "entertainment value" is more important than veracity.

That said, we as the media-consuming public are also to blame for, oh, I dunno, swallowing it hook, line and sinker.
 
2012-11-12 03:24:53 PM  
... also... did Hillary know? was her stepping down already decided before this stuff?
 
2012-11-12 03:25:43 PM  

OnlyM3: So obama lied to us?


Say it "ain't" so!!


First you complain about him not calling it a terrorist attack when he did the day after it happened, then you complain that he called it a terrorist attack when it MIGHT not have been PURELY a terrorist attack.

Will you people make up your minds? It's getting hard to keep track of what the outrage is for.

/of course, to you people anything Obama says, does, and eats is considered unholy evil of the planet-shattering kind, you'd plug your mouth and nose and die of asphyxiation if he said that he breathes air
 
2012-11-12 03:28:51 PM  

ManRay: I thought we stopped rendition?


Yep. That Nobel Peace Prize just keeps looking better and better.
 
2012-11-12 03:28:56 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.


4 people who gleefully participated in the violent overthrow of a sovereign country's government and tolerated a CIA black prison in their embassy as it preyed on the citizens of same.

What a loss.
 
2012-11-12 03:29:29 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Will you people make up your minds? It's getting hard to keep track of what the outrage is for.


dude, these people are at maximum outrage over things like dijon mustard, I don't think there is any logic or shame in what they do.
 
2012-11-12 03:31:10 PM  
s1ugg0: "So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies"

"Real" news organizations have a history of giving air time to every other product of "the crazies": truthers, birthers, anti-vaxxers, Trump, Palin, the Republican Primary Circus, etc. -- particularly during slow news periods.
And they also have a history of dutifully sitting on stories, pushing false stories and burying/changing story details to suit the government's "national security" whims.

So I think the odds are much better that "real" news organizations are sitting on the story at the government's behest; that would require no change from past behavior.
Whereas sitting on the story due ethics or concern for their professional appearance would require a pretty radical departure from past conduct *and* the sudden and miraculous development of both ethics and journalistic professionalism.
 
2012-11-12 03:31:28 PM  

WhiskeyBender: Fox news have been looking in depth on this.
Under Obama, we should see better leadership than Bush.
Canada has sent their teams in as well to investigate.
Killers, of any region, should be dealt with quicker though.

Yesterday, many republicans debated on our presidents wrong doing.
Of course, many believe it involves the gay agenda.
Understand this, if there is a fact, Fox news will dodge it.


This is the worst attempt I've ever seen at iambic pentameter. I weep.
 
2012-11-12 03:34:06 PM  

SkunkWerks: WhyKnot: As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

Sure. But this is the sort of thing that tends to happen when Media outlets as a whole- left and right of center- decide that "entertainment value" is more important than veracity.

That said, we as the media-consuming public are also to blame for, oh, I dunno, swallowing it hook, line and sinker.


Agreed.

We as a citizenry suck. We allow the parties and their respective news outlets to feed us crap journalism as if it where the truth. Then we entrench ourselves is our our little worlds with respect to the news feeds we get. If something runs counter to the talking points we are receiving from our preferred news outlets, we immediately disregard it and call it 'partisan news', never taking time to consider the veracity of the counter point.

I am not saying everyone does this all the time, but it does happen and it happens more than we care to admit.
 
2012-11-12 03:34:58 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards


dude. take a few days off.
 
2012-11-12 03:39:05 PM  
ManRay: "I thought we stopped rendition?"

You wouldn't need a secret CIA prison in the consulate if you were still doing rendition.
Rendition is the handing of US prisoners to the custody of other countries (to outsource torture).

It's entirely possible that this secret prison only exists/was in use *because* we stopped turning over our prisoners.
You certainly wouldn't need or want it, if you were still doing rendition.
 
2012-11-12 03:40:24 PM  

poot_rootbeer: WhiskeyBender: Fox news have been looking in depth on this.
Under Obama, we should see better leadership than Bush.
Canada has sent their teams in as well to investigate.
Killers, of any region, should be dealt with quicker though.

Yesterday, many republicans debated on our presidents wrong doing.
Of course, many believe it involves the gay agenda.
Understand this, if there is a fact, Fox news will dodge it.

This is the worst attempt I've ever seen at iambic pentameter. I weep.


unless it was designed to evoke sadness, then it is a work of art.
 
2012-11-12 03:41:23 PM  
Maybe CIA prison was having a sleep over. Who can say no to free pizza and a movie?
 
2012-11-12 03:42:29 PM  

colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.


Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.
 
2012-11-12 03:42:33 PM  
why the hell is it called a 'terror attack' ?

/ it's really hard to read the news and fight the urge to vomit at the same time.
 
2012-11-12 03:43:38 PM  

WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?


you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?
 
2012-11-12 03:46:41 PM  
The president must be held responsible for this American loss of life, right wingnuts?

www.plaguepuppy.net

/You people are farking disgusting
 
2012-11-12 03:46:59 PM  

timujin: //Drew and the Admins is a great name for a rock band. gay porn movie.


FTFE
 
2012-11-12 03:48:56 PM  

kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?


Yes, like that.

It's bad no matter who in the beneficiary.

Why is this so difficult to fathom?
 
2012-11-12 03:49:02 PM  

kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?


Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.
 
2012-11-12 03:49:15 PM  

whidbey: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.

What do they call two levels below "phoning it in?"


You give it a negative troll score...
thus...

-2/10
 
2012-11-12 03:53:18 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.

Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.


no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.
 
2012-11-12 03:54:21 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Will you people make up your minds?


They made up their minds. They made up their minds to say everything is always Obama's fault no matter what, even if what they're saying today directly contradicts everything they said yesterday.

In other words, people like colon_pow and OnlyM3 have made the conscious decision to be horrible people who do almost nothing but lie because all they care about is ceaselessly whining about the democrat in office.
 
2012-11-12 03:55:15 PM  

colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.

Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.

no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.


His comment is egregious and sick. I wasn't going to comment because be clearly has a diseased mind.
 
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