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(Fox News)   Evidence mounting that Benghazi U.S. consulate was attacked because its annex was a CIA detention facility   (foxnews.com) divider line 244
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2012-11-12 11:35:40 AM
Wait....Petraeus testified to Congress that the attack was about the video? 
 
2012-11-12 11:40:14 AM
This is such a clusterfark. I hope somebody goes to prison over it. Not because I care about justice, but because I'm sick of hearing about it.
 
2012-11-12 11:40:59 AM
Wait... she's also been mounting the evidence?
 
2012-11-12 11:42:55 AM

Blues_X: Wait... she's also been mounting the evidence?



Yeah, the stuff about the prisoners...sounds likely, but also the kind of thing that's classified. Unlike his penis.
 
2012-11-12 11:53:34 AM

I_C_Weener: but also the kind of thing that's classified. Unlike his penis.


Now I have the song "Detachable Penis" stuck in my head, but with slightly different lyrics.


/declassified penis
 
2012-11-12 11:54:20 AM
Is this just news? Or is it supposed to be part of some conspiracy?
 
2012-11-12 11:57:54 AM

DamnYankees: Is this just news? Or is it supposed to be part of some conspiracy?


It's the latest Fox News attempt to stir up a conspiracy theory
 
2012-11-12 12:00:27 PM
I thought it was already established that 20 of the 30 people there were CIA employees or contractors working under a diplomatic cover.
 
2012-11-12 12:00:29 PM
I want investigations into all the Embassy deaths under Bush II's watch and Clinton's watch.
 
2012-11-12 12:02:32 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: DamnYankees: Is this just news? Or is it supposed to be part of some conspiracy?

It's the latest Fox News attempt to stir up a conspiracy theory


This just in : attackers justify their crimes with reasons.

This is also not something that would have been changed under a Republican presidency.

I really hate Fox News.
 
2012-11-12 12:15:03 PM
But then who was phone
 
2012-11-12 12:18:40 PM
This scandal will surely guarantee a Romney victory.
 
2012-11-12 12:20:00 PM
Attention All Redneck Wingnuts,

No.
Body.
Cares.

Get over it.

/perhaps you would prefer to spend your outrage on a completely needless invasion of Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of people. If this doesn't bother that much, then kindly stick your Faux News Benghazi outrage straight up your ass.
 
2012-11-12 12:23:31 PM
Evidence is mounting alright, but the evidence indicates that FOX News is utterly full of shiat.
 
2012-11-12 12:31:31 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Evidence is mounting alright, but the evidence indicates that FOX News is utterly full of shiat.


FNC and it's wingnuts really, really want this to be the scandal that destroys the Obama presidency.

They're still butt-hurt that Fast and Furious didn't do it.
 
2012-11-12 12:32:33 PM
i1151.photobucket.com
Benghazi-Benghazi-Benghazi-Benghazi-Benghazi...

Just let lil' faux news throw a sh*t-fit and scream herself to sleep. She'll tucker out soon (we hope).
 
2012-11-12 12:39:51 PM
Benghazi will never be a thing. look for some other bogyman.
 
2012-11-12 12:42:40 PM
Fox news have been looking in depth on this.
Under Obama, we should see better leadership than Bush.
Canada has sent their teams in as well to investigate.
Killers, of any region, should be dealt with quicker though.

Yesterday, many republicans debated on our presidents wrong doing.
Of course, many believe it involves the gay agenda.
Understand this, if there is a fact, Fox news will dodge it.
 
2012-11-12 12:51:57 PM

WhiskeyBender: Fox news have been looking in depth on this.
Under Obama, we should see better leadership than Bush.
Canada has sent their teams in as well to investigate.
Killers, of any region, should be dealt with quicker though.

 
Yesterday, many republicans debated on our presidents wrong doing.
Of course, many believe it involves the gay agenda.
Understand this, if there is a fact, Fox news will dodge it.

 
i107.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-12 01:08:19 PM

Blues_X: Wait... she's also been mounting the evidence?


Then I hereby dub my penis "Evidence".

/She's hot
 
2012-11-12 01:19:42 PM
What a detention facility might look like:
i620.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-12 01:24:42 PM
Goddammit Petraeus ... I'll be shocked if you don't get federal felony charges levied against you.

HEY! PEOPLE IN POWER! STOP THINKING WITH YOUR DICKS!!
 
2012-11-12 01:26:39 PM

Blues_X: Wait... she's also been mounting the evidence?


The slut.
 
2012-11-12 01:27:45 PM

dugitman:
 
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I don't know why I'm laughing to hard at that image.
 
2012-11-12 01:36:17 PM

syrynxx: I thought it was already established that 20 of the 30 people there were CIA employees or contractors working under a diplomatic cover.


I thought it was established that Hussein Bongo II was manning a machine gun post, but didn't fire on the attackers because he was practicing his golf swing.
 
2012-11-12 02:00:24 PM
So it was a military operation to free their comrades and not a terrorist attack. Obama was correct in not calling it a terrorist attack.

You lose again GOP.
 
2012-11-12 02:12:36 PM

xanadian: Goddammit Petraeus ... I'll be shocked if you don't get federal felony charges levied against you.

HEY! PEOPLE MEN IN POWER! STOP THINKING WITH YOUR DICKS!!


FTFY. Not only for anatomical reasons, but also for general truthiness.

/That goes for the rest of you Farkers, too. Seriously. Don't use your penis for a brain.
//Like that'll ever happen
 
2012-11-12 02:20:44 PM
Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the Berlin discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi.
 
2012-11-12 02:25:43 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-11-12 02:26:06 PM
Yes, because Faux "News"=evidence
 
2012-11-12 02:26:22 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: This is such a clusterfark. I hope somebody goes to prison over it. Not because I care about justice, but because I'm sick of hearing about it.


I vote Sean Hannity for prison.
 
2012-11-12 02:26:27 PM

Blues_X: I_C_Weener: but also the kind of thing that's classified. Unlike his penis.

Now I have the song "Detachable Penis" stuck in my head, but with slightly different lyrics.


/declassified penis


Damn you....

/guess I'll have to spread it to someone to get it out of my head now.
 
2012-11-12 02:26:41 PM
can we go back to having government secrets again? please?
 
2012-11-12 02:29:23 PM
tis ok

cause obama
 
2012-11-12 02:29:40 PM
just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.
 
2012-11-12 02:29:50 PM

vernonFL: Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the (Berlin) discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi.

 

I feel like I'm missing one in the last sentence.
 
2012-11-12 02:29:52 PM
So what exactly does this "breaking news" really change.

Besides House Republicans already blew the CIA's cover back in October.
 
2012-11-12 02:30:57 PM
BENGHAZI!!!!!

You Republicans have gone to that well too many times. It's in the same bin as VINCE FOSTER!!!! TRAVELGATE!!!! CLIMATEGATE!!!! TROOPERGATE!!!! BLACK PANTHERS!!!! ACORN!!!! REFRIGERATORS!!!! (either "thousands of dollars in a", or "99% of poor people have")

I feel like participating in American Democracy requires memorizing a phone book's worth of pointless scandal trivia, and almost all of it entirely fictional. Like a pro-Wrestling television program.
 
2012-11-12 02:31:08 PM
We've been arming terrorists and the left is cool with that. That's good to know. Let us know how that works out for you.
 
2012-11-12 02:31:25 PM
I guess the congressmen holding the hearings shouldn't have cut the budget for embassy defense, and they wouldn't have to hold a hearing to blame someone else to cover their own arses.
 
2012-11-12 02:31:35 PM
pushing the Benghazi conspiracy theory = verbal scarlet letter of derp
 
2012-11-12 02:31:42 PM
Seems legit
 
2012-11-12 02:31:42 PM

zackthebass: vernonFL: Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the (Berlin) discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi. 

I feel like I'm missing one in the last sentence.


Fugazi, I think.
 
2012-11-12 02:31:55 PM
We get it. He's black.
 
2012-11-12 02:33:26 PM
Let's get this out of the way.
s16.postimage.org
 
2012-11-12 02:33:41 PM

StopLurkListen: zackthebass: vernonFL: Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the (Berlin) discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi. 

I feel like I'm missing one in the last sentence.

Fugazi, I think.


Ahhh...damn
 
2012-11-12 02:34:29 PM

colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.


4 people died at a consulate in an unstable country while a Democrat is president = WORST PRESIDENT EVAR! IT'S A CONSPIRACY! WORSE THAN WATERGATE! IMPEEEEACH!

50+ people die at embassy and consulate attacks under Bush Jr. (and many more under most other recent Presidents): Not a farking peep from the media...because people realize that, when you have presences in unstable or outright hostile countries, THIS KIND OF SHIAT HAPPENS.
 
2012-11-12 02:35:09 PM

Skarekrough: We get it. He's black.


Petraeus and his fark buddy are black?

love the ad hominem attacks though!

"Now, I don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that's still being vetted."
 
2012-11-12 02:35:30 PM
We've been arming terrorists and the left is cool with that. That's good to know. Let us know how that works out for you.

Can you point to a time in US history when we weren't arming one terrorist group or another?
 
2012-11-12 02:35:46 PM

Smeggy Smurf: We've been arming terrorists and the left is cool with that. That's good to know. Let us know how that works out for you.


Worked out well for Reagan.
 
2012-11-12 02:37:14 PM

bronyaur1: Attention All Redneck Wingnuts,

No.
Body.
Cares.

Get over it.

/perhaps you would prefer to spend your outrage on a completely needless invasion of Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of people. If this doesn't bother that much, then kindly stick your Faux News Benghazi outrage straight up your ass.

 

So this doesn't matter because Iraq was worse?
 
2012-11-12 02:37:54 PM

LordJiro: 50+ people die at embassy and consulate attacks under Bush Jr. (and many more under most other recent Presidents):


Quizzicaldog.jpg.

I don't give a shiat what side of the line you are on, that post is pants on head stupid.

Unless you are blaming the President between W and Obama, that guy WAS a douche!
 
2012-11-12 02:38:39 PM
I thought most of you guys were against secret CIA prisons.


What happened?
 
2012-11-12 02:39:12 PM
Sees headline, sees Fox logo, ignores it. Otherwise known as what people too aren't too far gone do.
 
2012-11-12 02:39:51 PM
img0.fark.net Mitt Romney projected to win in landslide, Cannabis still illegal in Colorado.
 
2012-11-12 02:40:15 PM
So then it was a strategical attack, not a terrorist attack?
 
2012-11-12 02:40:16 PM

LordJiro: colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.

4 people died at a consulate in an unstable country while a Democrat is president = WORST PRESIDENT EVAR! IT'S A CONSPIRACY! WORSE THAN WATERGATE! IMPEEEEACH!

50+ people die at embassy and consulate attacks under Bush Jr. (and many more under most other recent Presidents): Not a farking peep from the media...because people realize that, when you have presences in unstable or outright hostile countries, THIS KIND OF SHIAT HAPPENS.


i know. i bet you wish people would just stop asking questions.
darn meddling media
 
2012-11-12 02:40:59 PM
So General Petraeus, the Great White Hope of the Republican Party and the greatest general of this age or any other, was having Libyans covertly kidnapped in Libya and detaining them in insufficiently secure black prisons attached to U.S. diplomatic installation in Libya, and those kidnapped Libyan's colleagues may have attacked our diplomatic installations in an attempt to free them, and Petraeus told all this to some chick he's farking on the side, who then blabbed it to the media in her self-appointed capacity as his "informal spokesman"?

I'm starting to think FOX/RNC News is going to wish it hadn't made such an issue of "what really happened in Benghazi..."

I'm also starting to think Obama must have demanded Petraeus' resignation immediately after the election.
 
2012-11-12 02:41:41 PM

zackthebass: vernonFL: Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the (Berlin) discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi. 

I feel like I'm missing one in the last sentence.


waypastwarranty.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-12 02:42:07 PM
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2012-11-12 02:42:22 PM

Wise_Guy: bronyaur1: Attention All Redneck Wingnuts,

No.
Body.
Cares.

Get over it.

/perhaps you would prefer to spend your outrage on a completely needless invasion of Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of people. If this doesn't bother that much, then kindly stick your Faux News Benghazi outrage straight up your ass. 

So this doesn't matter because Iraq was worse?


Invading a country on false pretenses, causing thousands of American deaths and countless civilian deaths (allowing the terrorist group that actually attacked us to not only get away with attacking us, but to actually get *stronger* in the process) is, in fact, a bigger deal than four people dying at a consulate in an unstable nation. Again, far more Americans died in consulates and embassies under most recent Presidents, even limiting it to first terms...and we barely heard a peep about most of 'em.

The outrage over Benghazi is just another example of Republicans trying to make something, ANYTHING, stick. It's partisan desperation, and nothing more.
 
2012-11-12 02:42:36 PM

colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.


Shouldn't you be screaming in agony or something because Roboty lost or something?

Yeah, I went there?
 
2012-11-12 02:43:03 PM

colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.


www.motherjones.com

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! WHY CAN'T WE GO BACK TO PROJECTING STRENGTH LIKE DURING THE ADMINISTRATION OF UH... UH... uh.... huh. 

Never mind. Turns out you're just being a stupid partisan asshole again.
 
2012-11-12 02:43:51 PM
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-11-12 02:44:09 PM

colon_pow: LordJiro: colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.

4 people died at a consulate in an unstable country while a Democrat is president = WORST PRESIDENT EVAR! IT'S A CONSPIRACY! WORSE THAN WATERGATE! IMPEEEEACH!

50+ people die at embassy and consulate attacks under Bush Jr. (and many more under most other recent Presidents): Not a farking peep from the media...because people realize that, when you have presences in unstable or outright hostile countries, THIS KIND OF SHIAT HAPPENS.

i know. i bet you wish people would just stop asking questions.
darn meddling media


So four people dying in a consulate in an unstable nation is somehow worse than 50 because...?

/Don't bother answering, I know it's because the president is near.
 
2012-11-12 02:45:30 PM

halfof33: LordJiro: 50+ people die at embassy and consulate attacks under Bush Jr. (and many more under most other recent Presidents):

Quizzicaldog.jpg.

I don't give a shiat what side of the line you are on, that post is pants on head stupid.

Unless you are blaming the President between W and Obama, that guy WAS a douche!


Why? Clinton had the two big embassy bombings and during the Iraq war our embassy there was constantly under attack.
 
2012-11-12 02:45:31 PM

zackthebass: vernonFL: Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the (Berlin) discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi. 

I feel like I'm missing one in the last sentence.


Fugazi = FU Bengazi
 
2012-11-12 02:46:11 PM

Lord Farkwad: Let's get this out of the way.
[s16.postimage.org image 250x473]


and liberals, by and large, were disgusted with MoveOn for that to the point of their donations dropping like a stone.
 
2012-11-12 02:47:28 PM

Wise_Guy: So this doesn't matter because Iraq was worse?


It matters. The facts of the case matter.

What doesn't matter is the noise coming from the right in their continued attempt to stomp over the dead bodies of four Americans to try and stir a controversy solely because they want to gain some political traction.

This is just another example of where the right is shiatting all over a legitimate issue and making people not care about it because they can't keep their stupid maws shut and not try to turn it into a purely partisan attack on their political opponents.

Just like these shiatheels killed any chance of getting some reasonable reflection and reform after Fast and Furious, they're ensuring now that we won't be able to get any reasonable reflection and reform after Benghazi.
 
2012-11-12 02:48:26 PM
What? People might attack foreign facilities being used as prisons in an attempt to free their comrades?

This is clearly Zerobama's fault. No one else would have conceived of such a thing before his misrule. I'm reluctantly voting Romney.

/insert old yarn about one man's terrorist being another man's freedom fighter here
 
2012-11-12 02:48:43 PM

Smeggy Smurf: We've been arming terrorists and the left is cool with that. That's good to know. Let us know how that works out for you.


But enough about the Reagan administration.
 
2012-11-12 02:50:13 PM

colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.


Sure... post it to Main instead, who'll see it there? And we all know that Drew and the admins are in 0bammyMammy's pocket and make sure to pass all decisions on where to place articles through the White House.

/you, sir, are a dipshiat.
//Drew and the Admins is a great name for a rock band.
 
2012-11-12 02:51:01 PM

Lord Farkwad: Let's get this out of the way.


Cooking the books for the White House? Isn't that his job title? Aren't we supposed to cover up all of this crap for 10 years and then hear about it? Maybe that's the problem.
 
2012-11-12 02:51:55 PM
Nobody cares about Benghazi. Obama was reelected. Everything's cool.
 
2012-11-12 02:52:12 PM

vernonFL: Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the Berlin discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi.


Miss any?
 
2012-11-12 02:52:17 PM

LordJiro: colon_pow: LordJiro: colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.

4 people died at a consulate in an unstable country while a Democrat is president = WORST PRESIDENT EVAR! IT'S A CONSPIRACY! WORSE THAN WATERGATE! IMPEEEEACH!

50+ people die at embassy and consulate attacks under Bush Jr. (and many more under most other recent Presidents): Not a farking peep from the media...because people realize that, when you have presences in unstable or outright hostile countries, THIS KIND OF SHIAT HAPPENS.

i know. i bet you wish people would just stop asking questions.
darn meddling media

So four people dying in a consulate in an unstable nation is somehow worse than 50 because...?

/Don't bother answering, I know it's because the president is near.


so you're going to point to a worse attack? and then play the race card? is that your response?
that's pretty weak, even for you.
 
2012-11-12 02:52:59 PM
Somebody splain to me why this story is a Drudge four-siren? My theories.

Assuming the Fox sources actually exist, and know what they're talking about (doubtful, but go with it), then the CIA was running a detention center in Bengazi, while claiming that they stopped doing that in 2009. 'K, scandalish.

Petraeus told his bouncey buddy classified info about this, and she let the cat out of the bag at a speech. Seems likelier, and trouble for them, but scandalish to anyone BUT them? How, exactly?

The FBI had this whole thing locked down between Oct. 26 and the election, but didn't go public before the election to avoid getting involved in politics. Not a scandal; just good sense, UNLESS they had their case all built and didn't inform Petraeus that we was in trouble. It sounds like Petraeus and Broadwell probably knew they were busted before the election, and just delayed the announcement. If so, not a scandal. If the FBI held off on telling those two they were busted, then our nation was in MORTAL PERIL of a blackmailer squeezing sekruts out of Petraeus during that week they held off. Mini-scandalish, about as bad as Travelgate.
 
2012-11-12 02:55:13 PM
So when is General Petraeus going to get the Bradley Manning treatment? Or do those rules only apply to lower ranking members of the military?
 
2012-11-12 02:56:01 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: This is such a clusterfark. I hope somebody goes to prison over it. Not because I care about justice, but because I'm sick of hearing about it.


The only ones who should be going to prison are the dumbasses trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. The rightwing media looks like it may actually compromise CIA operatives just to pin something to Obama.
 
2012-11-12 02:56:19 PM

ToxicMunkee: I want investigations into all the Embassy deaths under Bush II's watch and Clinton's watch.


Do you have a Chinese translator?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-11-12 02:56:26 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.

[www.motherjones.com image 590x368]

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! WHY CAN'T WE GO BACK TO PROJECTING STRENGTH LIKE DURING THE ADMINISTRATION OF UH... UH... uh.... huh. 

Never mind. Turns out you're just being a stupid partisan asshole again.


How dare you!

The teapublicans were PROMISED that there would be NO MATH!!
 
2012-11-12 02:56:41 PM

colon_pow: LordJiro: colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.

4 people died at a consulate in an unstable country while a Democrat is president = WORST PRESIDENT EVAR! IT'S A CONSPIRACY! WORSE THAN WATERGATE! IMPEEEEACH!

50+ people die at embassy and consulate attacks under Bush Jr. (and many more under most other recent Presidents): Not a farking peep from the media...because people realize that, when you have presences in unstable or outright hostile countries, THIS KIND OF SHIAT HAPPENS.

i know. i bet you wish people would just stop asking questions.
darn meddling media


As you are a known liar, claims issued by you lack any credibility.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2012-11-12 02:57:19 PM

tmonsta: So when is General Petraeus going to get the Bradley Manning treatment? Or do those rules only apply to lower ranking members of the military?


I think he has a net worth > $1 mil.

What do you think?
 
2012-11-12 02:57:33 PM

colon_pow: LordJiro: colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.

4 people died at a consulate in an unstable country while a Democrat is president = WORST PRESIDENT EVAR! IT'S A CONSPIRACY! WORSE THAN WATERGATE! IMPEEEEACH!

50+ people die at embassy and consulate attacks under Bush Jr. (and many more under most other recent Presidents): Not a farking peep from the media...because people realize that, when you have presences in unstable or outright hostile countries, THIS KIND OF SHIAT HAPPENS.

i know. i bet you wish people would just stop asking questions.
darn meddling media


As you are a known liar, claims issued by you lack any credibility.

Vegan Meat Popsicle: colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.

[www.motherjones.com image 590x368]

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! WHY CAN'T WE GO BACK TO PROJECTING STRENGTH LIKE DURING THE ADMINISTRATION OF UH... UH... uh.... huh. 

Never mind. Turns out you're just being a stupid partisan asshole again.


colon_pow is a creationist. Rationality and reality are foreign concepts to such individuals.
 
2012-11-12 02:57:42 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Wise_Guy: So this doesn't matter because Iraq was worse?

It matters. The facts of the case matter.

What doesn't matter is the noise coming from the right in their continued attempt to stomp over the dead bodies of four Americans to try and stir a controversy solely because they want to gain some political traction.

This is just another example of where the right is shiatting all over a legitimate issue and making people not care about it because they can't keep their stupid maws shut and not try to turn it into a purely partisan attack on their political opponents.

Just like these shiatheels killed any chance of getting some reasonable reflection and reform after Fast and Furious, they're ensuring now that we won't be able to get any reasonable reflection and reform after Benghazi.


"Bush lied people died".

/memory problems?
 
2012-11-12 02:58:14 PM
FTA: A well-placed Washington source confirms to Fox News...

Thank you Fox News for deciding on the quality of your sources for me.
 
2012-11-12 02:59:56 PM
The US consulate in Benghazi was being used as a front for under-the-table CIA activities? Huh, imagine that.

It's not as if Darrell Issa blew the lid on that farker wide off by accident, violating federal law (and his oath of office) by divulging classified information to the public, a month and a half ago.

Or that this kind of BS went on with shocking regularity during the previous administration in the name of the War on Terror, leading to record numbers of US embassy and consulate attacks.

Or that Petraeus' appointment as DCI was a conciliatory gesture by Obama, after having been Bush's boy in Iraq and Afghanistan for seven years prior.

But hey let's not let anything that could possibly look bad for Republicans get in the way of the narrative, right?
 
2012-11-12 03:01:32 PM
While I'm not surprised that it turned out to be a CIA hostage house, I am surprised that Fox is reporting it without "proving" it's a Muslim-commie lie. Maybe there's hope for the MSM yet?
 
2012-11-12 03:01:52 PM
4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.
 
2012-11-12 03:03:27 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.


I care about the Incredible Disappearing Mitt Romney!
 
2012-11-12 03:03:40 PM

IlGreven: The rightwing media looks like it may actually compromise CIA operatives just to pin something to Obama.


Well, Issa did also disclose the identities of Libyan informants for the CIA...

...which, you know, is going to create a rift of distrust between the Libyans and the US, especially using consulates as CIA black sites, and make working with the transitional government, forging strong diplomatic ties, and ensuring a peaceful and moderate Libyan government much more difficult in the future.

Of course, that doesn't help conservatives in the least, what with it being one less Middle Eastern boogeyman to invoke to scare stupid Americans into voting GOP.
 
2012-11-12 03:04:39 PM

ToxicMunkee: I want investigations into all the Embassy deaths under Bush II's watch and Clinton's watch.


There weren't any, should be pretty quick.
 
2012-11-12 03:05:07 PM
There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.
 
2012-11-12 03:05:35 PM

badaboom: /memory problems?


Are you implying that there was ever any chance of an investigation into the make-believe intelligence that put us into a war costing us hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives for no reason at all?

Because if that's what you're implying, I'm going to just laugh at you and move on. Because even if you had a practical point, "OTHER PEOPLE DID IT!" isn't a valid excuse.
 
2012-11-12 03:05:41 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.


You've been so insightful in the past. Please, continue.
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-12 03:06:49 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.


heh, republican crazy conspiracy theories didn't work even with the power of fox news behind them... suck it willful ignoramuses.
 
2012-11-12 03:07:48 PM

halfof33: Skarekrough: We get it. He's black.

Petraeus and his fark buddy are black?

love the ad hominem attacks though!

"Now, I don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that's still being vetted."


Not only that, to quote TFA:

According to multiple intelligence sources who have served in Benghazi, there were more than just Libyan militia members who were held and interrogated by CIA contractors at the CIA annex in the days prior to the attack. Other prisoners from additional countries in Africa and the Middle East were brought to this location. The Libya annex was the largest CIA station in North Africa."

Fox is probably bragging rather than complaining, but still.
 
2012-11-12 03:08:37 PM

jaybeezey: ToxicMunkee: I want investigations into all the Embassy deaths under Bush II's watch and Clinton's watch.

There weren't any, should be pretty quick.


First 4 I could find with a 5 minute google search.

2002: U.S. Consulate In Karachi, Pakistan, Attacked; 10 Killed, 51 Injured.
2004: U.S. Embassy Bombed In Uzbekistan. 2 killed, 9 injuried
2004: Gunmen Stormed U.S. Consulate In Saudi Arabia. 5 Killed
2008: Ten People Killed In Bombings At U.S. Embassy In Yemen

It's 2012. Everyone has access to google. Take the 5 minutes to research before making yourself look like an ass.
 
2012-11-12 03:08:39 PM

Hobodeluxe: ecmoRandomNumbers: This is such a clusterfark. I hope somebody goes to prison over it. Not because I care about justice, but because I'm sick of hearing about it.

I vote Sean Hannity for prison.


I vote Sean Hannity for poison.
 
2012-11-12 03:08:53 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.

[www.motherjones.com image 590x368]

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! WHY CAN'T WE GO BACK TO PROJECTING STRENGTH LIKE DURING THE ADMINISTRATION OF UH... UH... uh.... huh. 

Never mind. Turns out you're just being a stupid partisan asshole again.


This is a graph that shows something Bush Jr. was pretty good at. That's a neat trick.
 
2012-11-12 03:09:20 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.



Thank you for that insightful commentary, Lt. Weasel.
 
2012-11-12 03:10:42 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.


What do they call two levels below "phoning it in?"
 
2012-11-12 03:11:43 PM

LordJiro: Wise_Guy: bronyaur1: Attention All Redneck Wingnuts,

No.
Body.
Cares.

Get over it.

/perhaps you would prefer to spend your outrage on a completely needless invasion of Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of people. If this doesn't bother that much, then kindly stick your Faux News Benghazi outrage straight up your ass. 

So this doesn't matter because Iraq was worse?

Invading a country on false pretenses, causing thousands of American deaths and countless civilian deaths (allowing the terrorist group that actually attacked us to not only get away with attacking us, but to actually get *stronger* in the process) is, in fact, a bigger deal than four people dying at a consulate in an unstable nation. Again, far more Americans died in consulates and embassies under most recent Presidents, even limiting it to first terms...and we barely heard a peep about most of 'em.

The outrage over Benghazi is just another example of Republicans trying to make something, ANYTHING, stick. It's partisan desperation, and nothing more.


That may be so, but I don't see any reason not to investigate it whether the situation turns out to be politically unfavorable to Obama or not.
 
2012-11-12 03:11:54 PM
LordJiro:

The outrage over Benghazi is just another example of Republicans trying to make something, ANYTHING, stick. It's partisan desperation, and nothing more.

I'm anything but Republican and I'm outraged the CIA holding facility was there at all. Perhaps you need a larger brush and more deftness in wielding it?
 
2012-11-12 03:14:43 PM
PlatinumDragon:

What? People might attack foreign facilities being used as prisons in an attempt to free their comrades?

This is clearly Zerobama's fault. No one else would have conceived of such a thing before his misrule. I'm reluctantly voting Romney.


Wow, your time machine WORKS?
 
2012-11-12 03:15:25 PM
So our brave SEALs died
then Obama lied... to protect a secret CIA operation?

And that lie was the best he could come up with?
 
2012-11-12 03:15:28 PM
The US is still torturing people but it doesn't matter because something something Bush, something something Issa, something something Fox and Teapublicans are racist.

Don't get me wrong, I mean I am in favor of torture, but it just seems pretty pathetic that so many staunch advocates of human rights are willing to look the other way.........in favor of what though?

What do you have to gain by abandoning your principles to live a life of philosophical poverty?
 
2012-11-12 03:16:12 PM

JelloBAfro: vernonFL: Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the Berlin discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi.

Miss any?


RATM?
 
2012-11-12 03:16:24 PM

Giltric: Don't get me wrong, I mean I am in favor of torture


I got you wrong.
 
2012-11-12 03:16:46 PM

PreMortem: So it was a military operation to free their comrades and not a terrorist attack. Obama was correct in not calling it a terrorist attack.

You lose again GOP.


Can you people make up your farking mind? First he blamed a Youtube video, then Obama and the Pillsbury Doughgirl said it was during the debate. Now we're back to "he didn't say it"
 
2012-11-12 03:17:19 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem like every time the CIA is involved in a debacle, the agents are the center of it are Republicans?
 
2012-11-12 03:17:23 PM
tmonsta:

So when is General Petraeus going to get the Bradley Manning treatment? Or do those rules only apply to lower ranking members of the military?

THIS.
 
2012-11-12 03:17:53 PM
Yeah. Forgetting for a second that this is FOX NEWS, and the old and tired Benghazi-gate...

1. CIA isn't supposed to be detaining anyone anymore in clandestine prisons, as per executive order.
2. If the reason for the attack was to free the prisoners, that's some serious poop. It makes sense, but I can see why no one would want to admit to that... because of point 1 above.
3. If Broadwell actually said this publicly AND it was the truth (that's some big IF), she's a moron. And displaying that she knew too much from Petraeus.

This actually is slightly reminiscent of the Plame scandal. Except the leaked information wasn't intended as a smear. In both cases (this one more so IF it's all true) malfeasance in the government, but in both cases, there is little likelihood of the President's knowledge (except maybe after the fact).

I don't think it's in the President's purview to expose the CIA to holding prisoners. Actually, it would run counter to national security to do so. I would be very disappointed if he hadn't done something behind the scenes to "remedy" that mistake, but how would we ever know what he did. Perhaps Petraeus was wise to fall on his sword at this juncture.
 
2012-11-12 03:17:55 PM

whidbey: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.

What do they call two levels below "phoning it in?"


Robo-trolling, although that may be the level below "phoning it in".
 
2012-11-12 03:18:16 PM
Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards
 
2012-11-12 03:18:35 PM
This is the worst October surprise ever..
 
2012-11-12 03:18:36 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Evidence is mounting alright, but the evidence indicates that FOX News is utterly full of shiat.


The problem is that there are legitimate questions to be asked and answered here, but the sheer volume of noise and utter bullshiat out there makes it very unlikely that they will be asked or answered
 
2012-11-12 03:18:47 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.


~3000 people died in 9/11, and, unlike Obama with Benghazi, Bush let the organization that perpetrated the attacks get away with them (until a Democrat came along to clean up his mess). And Bush got reelected.

Republicans pretending to care about Americans dying is laughable.
 
2012-11-12 03:19:05 PM
So obama lied to us?


Say it "ain't" so!!
 
2012-11-12 03:20:36 PM

fireclown: This is the worst October surprise ever..


Try Pickle Surprise instead.
 
2012-11-12 03:21:05 PM

s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.


As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?
 
2012-11-12 03:21:09 PM

StopLurkListen: BENGHAZI!!!!!

You Republicans have gone to that well too many times. It's in the same bin as VINCE FOSTER!!!! TRAVELGATE!!!! CLIMATEGATE!!!! TROOPERGATE!!!! BLACK PANTHERS!!!! ACORN!!!! REFRIGERATORS!!!! (either "thousands of dollars in a", or "99% of poor people have")

I feel like participating in American Democracy requires memorizing a phone book's worth of pointless scandal trivia, and almost all of it entirely fictional. Like a pro-Wrestling television program.


It's OK. All you have to do is say you don't believe in any one of the conspiracies, or in any one of the Republican policies, and you're labelled the libbiest lib that ever libbed a lib. shiat, liberal isn't even the insult de jour, it's "moderate".
 
2012-11-12 03:21:28 PM

zackthebass: vernonFL: Al Qaeda in Libya was only a minor threat to us. They are a bunch of rancid political misfits with suicidal tendencies following a bad religion. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later, the terrorists who caused panic at the (Berlin) discos of the 1980s would come back to haunt us. The clash of civilizations was inevitable. So I say, FU Bengazi. 

I feel like I'm missing one in the last sentence.


Fugazi
 
2012-11-12 03:21:37 PM

Giltric: What do you have to gain by abandoning your principles to live a life of philosophical poverty?


fewer countries invaded with long term occupations.
 
2012-11-12 03:22:44 PM

Glenford: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.

You've been so insightful in the past. Please, continue


austinisafecker.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-11-12 03:24:06 PM
I thought we stopped rendition?
 
2012-11-12 03:24:07 PM

WhyKnot: As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?


Sure. But this is the sort of thing that tends to happen when Media outlets as a whole- left and right of center- decide that "entertainment value" is more important than veracity.

That said, we as the media-consuming public are also to blame for, oh, I dunno, swallowing it hook, line and sinker.
 
2012-11-12 03:24:53 PM
... also... did Hillary know? was her stepping down already decided before this stuff?
 
2012-11-12 03:25:43 PM

OnlyM3: So obama lied to us?


Say it "ain't" so!!


First you complain about him not calling it a terrorist attack when he did the day after it happened, then you complain that he called it a terrorist attack when it MIGHT not have been PURELY a terrorist attack.

Will you people make up your minds? It's getting hard to keep track of what the outrage is for.

/of course, to you people anything Obama says, does, and eats is considered unholy evil of the planet-shattering kind, you'd plug your mouth and nose and die of asphyxiation if he said that he breathes air
 
2012-11-12 03:28:51 PM

ManRay: I thought we stopped rendition?


Yep. That Nobel Peace Prize just keeps looking better and better.
 
2012-11-12 03:28:56 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.


4 people who gleefully participated in the violent overthrow of a sovereign country's government and tolerated a CIA black prison in their embassy as it preyed on the citizens of same.

What a loss.
 
2012-11-12 03:29:29 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Will you people make up your minds? It's getting hard to keep track of what the outrage is for.


dude, these people are at maximum outrage over things like dijon mustard, I don't think there is any logic or shame in what they do.
 
2012-11-12 03:31:10 PM
s1ugg0: "So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies"

"Real" news organizations have a history of giving air time to every other product of "the crazies": truthers, birthers, anti-vaxxers, Trump, Palin, the Republican Primary Circus, etc. -- particularly during slow news periods.
And they also have a history of dutifully sitting on stories, pushing false stories and burying/changing story details to suit the government's "national security" whims.

So I think the odds are much better that "real" news organizations are sitting on the story at the government's behest; that would require no change from past behavior.
Whereas sitting on the story due ethics or concern for their professional appearance would require a pretty radical departure from past conduct *and* the sudden and miraculous development of both ethics and journalistic professionalism.
 
2012-11-12 03:31:28 PM

WhiskeyBender: Fox news have been looking in depth on this.
Under Obama, we should see better leadership than Bush.
Canada has sent their teams in as well to investigate.
Killers, of any region, should be dealt with quicker though.

Yesterday, many republicans debated on our presidents wrong doing.
Of course, many believe it involves the gay agenda.
Understand this, if there is a fact, Fox news will dodge it.


This is the worst attempt I've ever seen at iambic pentameter. I weep.
 
2012-11-12 03:34:06 PM

SkunkWerks: WhyKnot: As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

Sure. But this is the sort of thing that tends to happen when Media outlets as a whole- left and right of center- decide that "entertainment value" is more important than veracity.

That said, we as the media-consuming public are also to blame for, oh, I dunno, swallowing it hook, line and sinker.


Agreed.

We as a citizenry suck. We allow the parties and their respective news outlets to feed us crap journalism as if it where the truth. Then we entrench ourselves is our our little worlds with respect to the news feeds we get. If something runs counter to the talking points we are receiving from our preferred news outlets, we immediately disregard it and call it 'partisan news', never taking time to consider the veracity of the counter point.

I am not saying everyone does this all the time, but it does happen and it happens more than we care to admit.
 
2012-11-12 03:34:58 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards


dude. take a few days off.
 
2012-11-12 03:39:05 PM
ManRay: "I thought we stopped rendition?"

You wouldn't need a secret CIA prison in the consulate if you were still doing rendition.
Rendition is the handing of US prisoners to the custody of other countries (to outsource torture).

It's entirely possible that this secret prison only exists/was in use *because* we stopped turning over our prisoners.
You certainly wouldn't need or want it, if you were still doing rendition.
 
2012-11-12 03:40:24 PM

poot_rootbeer: WhiskeyBender: Fox news have been looking in depth on this.
Under Obama, we should see better leadership than Bush.
Canada has sent their teams in as well to investigate.
Killers, of any region, should be dealt with quicker though.

Yesterday, many republicans debated on our presidents wrong doing.
Of course, many believe it involves the gay agenda.
Understand this, if there is a fact, Fox news will dodge it.

This is the worst attempt I've ever seen at iambic pentameter. I weep.


unless it was designed to evoke sadness, then it is a work of art.
 
2012-11-12 03:41:23 PM
Maybe CIA prison was having a sleep over. Who can say no to free pizza and a movie?
 
2012-11-12 03:42:29 PM

colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.


Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.
 
2012-11-12 03:42:33 PM
why the hell is it called a 'terror attack' ?

/ it's really hard to read the news and fight the urge to vomit at the same time.
 
2012-11-12 03:43:38 PM

WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?


you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?
 
2012-11-12 03:46:41 PM
The president must be held responsible for this American loss of life, right wingnuts?

www.plaguepuppy.net

/You people are farking disgusting
 
2012-11-12 03:46:59 PM

timujin: //Drew and the Admins is a great name for a rock band. gay porn movie.


FTFE
 
2012-11-12 03:48:56 PM

kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?


Yes, like that.

It's bad no matter who in the beneficiary.

Why is this so difficult to fathom?
 
2012-11-12 03:49:02 PM

kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?


Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.
 
2012-11-12 03:49:15 PM

whidbey: Lt. Cheese Weasel: 4 people are dead. Libtards don't care anymore. Their dear leader got re-elected. That is all that matters.

What do they call two levels below "phoning it in?"


You give it a negative troll score...
thus...

-2/10
 
2012-11-12 03:53:18 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.

Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.


no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.
 
2012-11-12 03:54:21 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: Will you people make up your minds?


They made up their minds. They made up their minds to say everything is always Obama's fault no matter what, even if what they're saying today directly contradicts everything they said yesterday.

In other words, people like colon_pow and OnlyM3 have made the conscious decision to be horrible people who do almost nothing but lie because all they care about is ceaselessly whining about the democrat in office.
 
2012-11-12 03:55:15 PM

colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.

Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.

no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.


His comment is egregious and sick. I wasn't going to comment because be clearly has a diseased mind.
 
2012-11-12 03:56:29 PM

colon_pow: no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.


Or that we realize that feeding trolls after midnight is counter productive.
 
2012-11-12 03:56:51 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Keizer_Ghidorah: Will you people make up your minds?

They made up their minds. They made up their minds to say everything is always Obama's fault no matter what, even if what they're saying today directly contradicts everything they said yesterday.

In other words, people like colon_pow and OnlyM3 have made the conscious decision to be horrible people who do almost nothing but lie because all they care about is ceaselessly whining about the democrat in office.


The flip side of the coin is those who are still b-but-Bush'ing and letting Obama slide on everything.

Both sides are idiots who only care about their party affiliation and put that ahead of their best interests as American citizens.
 
2012-11-12 03:57:00 PM
Twas ever thus:

Barron had doubts about involving Hamet, but Eaton and Captain Preble persuaded him. November 16 Eaton sailed on the brig Argus to find Hamet in Egypt. Barron may have expected Eaton to bring Hamet to Syracuse for a consultation[40]-that is unclear-but having eventually located him, Eaton helped the ex-pasha put together a collection of a few hundred armed Arabs and Greeks, mostly mercenaries under a handful of disparate leaders. Eaton, Hamet and several marines marched their "army' nearly 500 miles through the desert along the southern shore of the Mediterranean and, on April 27, 1805, they captured the town of Derne, some miles east of Benghazi. The Argus and two sister ships supplied them with provisions along their march and actively supported them in the taking of Derne (where Hamet had been governor three years before under his brother Yusuf). In the meantime, the American blockade of Tripoli had been maintained through the winter and spring.

http://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/first-barbary - war

/savages
//though they and their latter day ilk rarely, if ever, have dipped their pens into American blood to sell advertising
 
2012-11-12 03:57:07 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Marcus Aurelius: Evidence is mounting alright, but the evidence indicates that FOX News is utterly full of shiat.

FNC and it's wingnuts really, really want this to be the scandal that destroys the Obama presidency.

They're still butt-hurt that Fast and Furious didn't do it.


Fast and Furious confuses me. It's not as if this sort of operation is unheard of. The whole idea was to get a handle on what the supply chain was. I mean, I realize there was this rumor that they thought about using F&F as an excuse to crack down on gun control, but the part that confuses me is that there are people who act like, because F&F guns are being used in crimes, these are guns that would otherwise not be on the street, and crimes that would not be committed.
 
2012-11-12 03:57:19 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-12 03:57:23 PM

Wise_Guy: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Yes, like that.

It's bad no matter who in the beneficiary.

Why is this so difficult to fathom?


its not. I was simply saying there is a precedent for the MSM to cover for those in power regardless. It is even weirder that a so called liberal or left leaning newspaper would do it for the GOP but they did. No one seemed to care then either. If the NYT told the american people bush was spying on all of them it could very well have gotten Kerry elected.
 
2012-11-12 03:58:31 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: [...] you'd plug your mouth and nose and die of asphyxiation if he said that he breathes air


I'm certainly willing to suggest this to the cons.
 
2012-11-12 03:59:00 PM
Didn't read the thread. Didn't read the article. Saw the Fox News icon. I feel very safe in dismissing stubby's 'evidence' claim as contrived paranoid propaganda.

/ Wake me when someone reputable is reporting it.
 
2012-11-12 04:00:00 PM

kindms: Wise_Guy: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Yes, like that.

It's bad no matter who in the beneficiary.

Why is this so difficult to fathom?

its not. I was simply saying there is a precedent for the MSM to cover for those in power regardless. It is even weirder that a so called liberal or left leaning newspaper would do it for the GOP but they did. No one seemed to care then either. If the NYT told the american people bush was spying on all of them it could very well have gotten Kerry elected.


OK, fine. But if it was wrong then it's still wrong now.
 
2012-11-12 04:00:28 PM

MooseUpNorth: Didn't read the thread. Didn't read the article. Saw the Fox News icon. I feel very safe in dismissing stubby's 'evidence' claim as contrived paranoid propaganda.

/ Wake me when someone reputable is reporting it.


Ha!

My point has been proven.
 
2012-11-12 04:02:36 PM
kronicfeld: But then who was phone

OBAMAPHONE!
 
2012-11-12 04:02:37 PM

WhyKnot: MooseUpNorth: Didn't read the thread. Didn't read the article. Saw the Fox News icon. I feel very safe in dismissing stubby's 'evidence' claim as contrived paranoid propaganda.

/ Wake me when someone reputable is reporting it.

Ha!

My point has been proven.


MooseUpNorth...that wasn't a shot at you per se, rather a commentary on our societies ability to totally disregard anything that doesn't come from a 'preferred' news outlet.
 
2012-11-12 04:03:08 PM

colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.

Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.

no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.


"misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call"

Do you deny that this is what the GOP platform was for 2012? Do you deny the record number of anti-gay and anti-abortion bills the right tried to pass these last few years? Do you deny the right trying to redefine rape in order to outlaw abortion and contraceptives? Do you deny all of the demands to attack Iran because Israel kept whining about their supposed bomb? How about Mitt's tax cuts for the rich and intended destruction of most social welfare programs, including disaster aid and relief? Do you deny the right's increased self-victimizing and cries of "WE'RE BEING OPPRESSED!" in regards to Christianity (case in point: Chik-fil-A)? How about demanding science be replaced with creationism and Bible studies in schools? I should also add "racist" to that list up there, since all of the right's bullshiat is because Obama is half-black, and their attitudes towards non-whites is self-evident.
 
2012-11-12 04:03:29 PM

Giltric: What do you have to gain by abandoning your principles to live a life of philosophical poverty?


I dunno, you're the one taking Fox News seriously.


Honestly, if this is such a big deal, I want to see a Reuters or AP report on it.
 
2012-11-12 04:03:36 PM

WhyKnot: WhyKnot: MooseUpNorth: Didn't read the thread. Didn't read the article. Saw the Fox News icon. I feel very safe in dismissing stubby's 'evidence' claim as contrived paranoid propaganda.

/ Wake me when someone reputable is reporting it.

Ha!

My point has been proven.

MooseUpNorth...that wasn't a shot at you per se, rather a commentary on our societies ability to totally disregard anything that doesn't come from a 'preferred' news outlet.


*society's
 
2012-11-12 04:05:07 PM

WhyKnot: WhyKnot: MooseUpNorth: Didn't read the thread. Didn't read the article. Saw the Fox News icon. I feel very safe in dismissing stubby's 'evidence' claim as contrived paranoid propaganda.

/ Wake me when someone reputable is reporting it.

Ha!

My point has been proven.

MooseUpNorth...that wasn't a shot at you per se, rather a commentary on our societies ability to totally disregard anything that doesn't come from a 'preferred' news outlet.


There's a difference between "I only believe one source" and "I don't believe what this one source says".
 
2012-11-12 04:07:24 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.

Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.

no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.

"misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call"

Do you deny that this is what the GOP platform was for 2012? Do you deny the record number of anti-gay and anti-abortion bills the right tried to pass these last few years? Do you deny the right trying to redefine rape in order to outlaw abortion and contraceptives? Do you deny all of the demands to attack Iran because Israel kept whining about their supposed bomb? How about Mitt's tax cuts for the rich and intended destruction of most social welfare programs, including disaster aid and relief? Do you deny the right's increased self-victimizing and cries of "WE'RE BEING OPPRESSED!" in regards to Christianity (case in point: Chik-fil-A)? How about demanding science be replaced with creationism and Bible studies in schools? I should also add "racist" to that list up there, since all of the right's bullshiat is because Obama is half-black, and their attitudes towards non-whites is self-evident.


do you deny that you are suggesting an assassination?
please don't reply to me. i wish nothing to do with you.
thank you.
 
2012-11-12 04:08:07 PM

WhyKnot: MooseUpNorth...that wasn't a shot at you per se, rather a commentary on our societies ability to totally disregard anything that doesn't come from a 'preferred' news outlet.


It's more a commentary on your country's total inability to report relevant, factual news; Fox actually _removing_ knowledge from the discourse. I rate Al farking Jazzeera more credible than _any_ US-based news (or news-like) source save Jon Stewart and 60 Minutes.
 
2012-11-12 04:09:02 PM

WhyKnot: WhyKnot: MooseUpNorth: Didn't read the thread. Didn't read the article. Saw the Fox News icon. I feel very safe in dismissing stubby's 'evidence' claim as contrived paranoid propaganda.

/ Wake me when someone reputable is reporting it.

Ha!

My point has been proven.

MooseUpNorth...that wasn't a shot at you per se, rather a commentary on our societies ability to totally disregard anything that doesn't come from a 'preferred' news outlet.


Fox News has a well-documented history of producing deliberate lies and Republican propaganda.

Taking their 'news' with a grain of salt merely means one has been paying attention.
 
2012-11-12 04:10:54 PM

LordJiro: colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.

4 people died at a consulate in an unstable country while a Democrat is president = WORST PRESIDENT EVAR! IT'S A CONSPIRACY! WORSE THAN WATERGATE! IMPEEEEACH!

50+ people die at embassy and consulate attacks under Bush Jr. (and many more under most other recent Presidents): Not a farking peep from the media...because people realize that, when you have presences in unstable or outright hostile countries, THIS KIND OF SHIAT HAPPENS.


An Ambassador was assassinated...when is the last time that happened? I guess after a US Ambassador requests additional security multiple times and is turned down...no one should be blamed because Obama.
 
2012-11-12 04:11:00 PM

colon_pow: no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.


I would like to point out that your comment is referred to as "gaslighting". You are obviously a sociopath, control freak, and I want nothing at all to do with you either.
 
2012-11-12 04:12:40 PM

colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.

Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.

no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.

"misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call"

Do you deny that this is what the GOP platform was for 2012? Do you deny the record number of anti-gay and anti-abortion bills the right tried to pass these last few years? Do you deny the right trying to redefine rape in order to outlaw abortion and contraceptives? Do you deny all of the demands to attack Iran because Israel kept whining about their supposed bomb? How about Mitt's tax cuts for the rich and intended destruction of most social welfare programs, including disaster aid and relief? Do you deny the right's increased self-victimizing and cries of "WE'RE BEING OPPRESSED!" in regards to Christianity (case in point: Chik-fil-A)? How about demanding science be replaced with creationism and Bible studies in schools? I should also add "racist" to that list up there, since all of the right's bullshiat is because Obama is half-black, and their attitudes towards non-whites is self-evident.

do you deny that you are suggesting an assassination?
please don't reply to me. i wish nothing to do with you.
thank you.


I'm just surprised you haven't thought of that option yet. "The number-one job is to make Obama a one-term president", correct? Well, he's started his second. Don't you people want to keep to that promise?
 
2012-11-12 04:13:06 PM
Understood, I actually think foreign news outlets do provide a more accurate reflection of what the truth of a matter is, as they don't have the same political agendas.
 
2012-11-12 04:14:00 PM

ferretman: LordJiro: colon_pow: just keep this out of the politics tab. we wouldn't want it to reflect badly on the administration.

4 people died at a consulate in an unstable country while a Democrat is president = WORST PRESIDENT EVAR! IT'S A CONSPIRACY! WORSE THAN WATERGATE! IMPEEEEACH!

50+ people die at embassy and consulate attacks under Bush Jr. (and many more under most other recent Presidents): Not a farking peep from the media...because people realize that, when you have presences in unstable or outright hostile countries, THIS KIND OF SHIAT HAPPENS.

An Ambassador was assassinated...when is the last time that happened? I guess after a US Ambassador requests additional security multiple times and is turned down...no one should be blamed because Obama.


Well, Republicans cut funding for such things. It's also the duty of the nation the ambassador is in to provide security for him and the embassy.
 
2012-11-12 04:18:13 PM

Wise_Guy: The flip side of the coin is those who are still b-but-Bush'ing and letting Obama slide on everything.


Look at you making things up.
 
2012-11-12 04:19:17 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Wise_Guy: The flip side of the coin is those who are still b-but-Bush'ing and letting Obama slide on everything.

Look at you making things up.


Look at you apparently not reading this thread.
 
2012-11-12 04:19:37 PM

WhyKnot: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.


So your just upset that this couldn't be used in time to tarnish President Obama's image before elections... good point...


static.guim.co.uk
 
2012-11-12 04:20:29 PM
Fox News is insinuating strongly that obama used the affair to get petreaus to blame benghazi on the YouTube video
 
2012-11-12 04:23:48 PM

Wise_Guy: Look at you apparently not reading this thread.


You mean the thread where I've already pointed out two different people doing exactly the stupid shiat I accused the right of doing or the thread where you couldn't be bothered to do the same?

Criticizing the right for ruining any chance at getting any useful answers about this event because they're more concerned about turning it into a political football than using it as a way of strengthening our handling of embassy security in unstable regions isn't "giving Obama a pass", it's an obvious acknowledge of reality.

But thanks for playing, derper.
 
2012-11-12 04:24:08 PM

protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.

So your just upset that this couldn't be used in time to tarnish President Obama's image before elections... good point...


So you....so you believe that the media should be using selective journalism in order to influence an election?

You don't really believe that, do you?
 
2012-11-12 04:24:42 PM

LordJiro: Republicans pretending to care about Americans dying is laughable.


If anyone protests this statement just remind them of the warm and fuzzy town meeting, where extremely concerned Tea Party members - when asked what to do if someone who has no insurance gets sick - screamed back "LET THEM DIE".

Care, indeed.
 
2012-11-12 04:24:52 PM

Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.

Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.

no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.

"misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call"

Do you deny that this is what the GOP platform was for 2012? Do you deny the record number of anti-gay and anti-abortion bills the right tried to pass these last few years? Do you deny the right trying to redefine rape in order to outlaw abortion and contraceptives? Do you deny all of the demands to attack Iran because Israel kept whining about their supposed bomb? How about Mitt's tax cuts for the rich and intended destruction of most social welfare programs, including disaster aid and relief? Do you deny the right's increased self-victimizing and cries of "WE'RE BEING OPPRESSED!" in regards to Christianity (case in point: Chik-fil-A)? How about demanding science be replaced with creationism and Bible studies in schools? I should also add "racist" to that list up there, since all of the right's bullshiat is because Obama is half-black, and their attitudes towards non-whites is self-evident.

do you deny that you are suggesting an assassination?
please don't reply to me. i wish nothing to do with you.
thank you.

I'm just surpris ...


Keizer_Ghidorah, this is a case where you went over the line. introducing assassination as an argument is egregious. obama is my man, i voted for him, i'm happy, but i don't care if you are left or right on the spectrum, don't start advocating assassination, even as a hyperbolic attack on the right.

accusing conservatives as being racist and violent people is just the same kind of villanizing that happens to the left, being accused of "takers" or "baby killers". bomb throwing is vile. and to the other farker, that's not gaslighting when you call someone out on this
 
2012-11-12 04:30:52 PM

ferretman: An Ambassador was assassinated...when is the last time that happened? I guess after a US Ambassador requests additional security multiple times and is turned down...no one should be blamed because Obama.


You ignorant slut.

Link

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said today that he voted to cut funding for U.S. embassy security amid political attacks from Republicans that the Obama administration did not do enough to secure the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya that was attacked last month.

Republicans and their allies have been trying to politicize the attack - which killed four Americans, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya - suggesting, without evidence, the Obama administration may have ignored intelligence that the attack was imminent, didn't properly secure the Benghazi compound and is now trying to cover it up.

But hidden beneath the GOP campaign is the fact that House Republicans voted to cut nearly $300 million from the U.S. embassy security budget. When asked if he voted to cut the funds this morning on CNN, Chaffetz said, "Absolutely":

O'BRIEN: Is it true that you voted to cut the funding for embassy security?

CHAFFETZ: Absolutely. Look, we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have - think about this - 15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, private army there for President Obama in Baghdad.

And we're talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces? When you're in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices how to prioritize this.


Link

It also deserves resources. In each of the last two years, Congress has cut President Obama's request for U.S. Foreign Service and U.S. Agency for International Development staffing levels despite repeated analysis by the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, indicating that our embassies are critically understaffed.

But even more inexcusable are the repeated and deep cuts made to embassy security and construction. Thousands of our diplomatic personnel are serving overseas in facilities that do not come close to meeting the minimal requirements for security established by the so-called Inman commission's report on overseas diplomatic security to President Ronald Reagan's secretary of state more than two decades ago.

Nor is it likely to change anytime soon. In the 2011 continuing resolution, Congress, at the insistence of the House of Representatives, slashed the president's request for embassy security and construction and forced another cut in fiscal year 2012. Altogether Congress has eliminated $296 million from embassy security and construction in the last two years with additional cuts in other State Department security accounts.
 
2012-11-12 04:31:32 PM

WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.

So your just upset that this couldn't be used in time to tarnish President Obama's image before elections... good point...

So you....so you believe that the media should be using selective journalism in order to influence an election?

You don't really believe that, do you?


No, just pointing out the false outrage about American deaths when its obvious what the real issue is...
 
2012-11-12 04:34:31 PM

JohnnyApocalypse: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: colon_pow: Keizer_Ghidorah: Hey, Republicans. If you're that desperate to get rid of Obama, then just hire someone to kill him. You're all clearly insane anyways, what's a little hired assassination going to do, hm? You've tried every other way and they've all failed.

/don't know why you're all so angry at not being able to have your precious misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call, it's like you WANT everyone to think you're evil farktards

dude. take a few days off.

Sorry that pointing out the depths of your side's nutbaggery makes you uncomfortable.

no, you make me uncomfortable. and if nobody else calls you out on your comment, well, that just shows how far gone they are too.

"misogynist, homophobic, ignorant, rich man's paradise, Christian theocracy that declares wars at Israel's beck and call"

Do you deny that this is what the GOP platform was for 2012? Do you deny the record number of anti-gay and anti-abortion bills the right tried to pass these last few years? Do you deny the right trying to redefine rape in order to outlaw abortion and contraceptives? Do you deny all of the demands to attack Iran because Israel kept whining about their supposed bomb? How about Mitt's tax cuts for the rich and intended destruction of most social welfare programs, including disaster aid and relief? Do you deny the right's increased self-victimizing and cries of "WE'RE BEING OPPRESSED!" in regards to Christianity (case in point: Chik-fil-A)? How about demanding science be replaced with creationism and Bible studies in schools? I should also add "racist" to that list up there, since all of the right's bullshiat is because Obama is half-black, and their attitudes towards non-whites is self-evident.

do you deny that you are suggesting an assassination?
please don't reply to me. i wish nothing to do with you.
thank you.
...


We've had to put up with their whiny, treasonous shiat for four years. If they're going to say they'll do anything to make Obama a one-term president, then they can either either put their money where their mouth is and let us watch them crash and burn, or they can shut the hell up and play ball with everyone else. They deliberately filibusted, fought, and whined about everything that was going to fix the country because a black Democrat was doing it and it ran counter to their authoritarian ideas for America (and half of it was their idea anyway, which they promptly 180'd on when Obama tried to do it), I think we can be excused for telling them off.
 
2012-11-12 04:35:34 PM

protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.

So your just upset that this couldn't be used in time to tarnish President Obama's image before elections... good point...

So you....so you believe that the media should be using selective journalism in order to influence an election?

You don't really believe that, do you?

No, just pointing out the false outrage about American deaths when its obvious what the real issue is...


The outrage is that our country is being informed of "news" by partisan hacks (on both sides) that care less about the truth of the matter than they do about protecting their "guy/side".
 
2012-11-12 04:35:37 PM

Wise_Guy: bronyaur1: Attention All Redneck Wingnuts,

No.
Body.
Cares.

Get over it.

/perhaps you would prefer to spend your outrage on a completely needless invasion of Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of people. If this doesn't bother that much, then kindly stick your Faux News Benghazi outrage straight up your ass. 

So this doesn't matter because Iraq was worse?


Interesting how boring criminal activity is when it's "their guy" perpetrating it. All they have to do is to see the label "Fox News" and instantly they dismiss any allegations, because it isn't the truth that matters, but support of "your team" at ALL costs.

That they do it with a smug air of superiority just makes the disconnect all the more fascinating.
 
2012-11-12 04:36:05 PM

Comment Bot: So our brave SEALs died
then Obama lied... to protect a secret CIA operation?

And that lie was the best he could come up with?


Ex-SEALS, working for an OGA.
 
2012-11-12 04:36:47 PM
Why was the ambassador at the consulate in Benghazi and not at the embassy in Tripoli? I haven't heard anyone even ask this. And if the consulate was a CIA black site, wouldn't the ambassador want to keep away from that? Or was he there to help the cover that it was a diplomatic office?
 
2012-11-12 04:37:15 PM

WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.

So your just upset that this couldn't be used in time to tarnish President Obama's image before elections... good point...

So you....so you believe that the media should be using selective journalism in order to influence an election?

You don't really believe that, do you?

No, just pointing out the false outrage about Americ ...


Right, which is evident by the reaction of fox news special non stop reporting on it.... unless I am wrong aren't they the most watched news?
 
2012-11-12 04:38:31 PM

WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.

So your just upset that this couldn't be used in time to tarnish President Obama's image before elections... good point...

So you....so you believe that the media should be using selective journalism in order to influence an election?

You don't really believe that, do you?


Are you saying that the media didn't report on the story in the weeks leading up to the election?

CNN, October 19: Diplomatic cables show anxiety about Benghazi violence, protection level

CBS News, October 23: Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on Sept. 11

MSNBC, October 27: Libyan witnesses recount organized Benghazi attack

ABC News, October 30: Game On? McCain Blasts Obama on Benghazi at 'Storm Relief' Rally

Were you just not paying attention?
 
2012-11-12 04:44:46 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Wise_Guy: Look at you apparently not reading this thread.

You mean the thread where I've already pointed out two different people doing exactly the stupid shiat I accused the right of doing or the thread where you couldn't be bothered to do the same?

Criticizing the right for ruining any chance at getting any useful answers about this event because they're more concerned about turning it into a political football than using it as a way of strengthening our handling of embassy security in unstable regions isn't "giving Obama a pass", it's an obvious acknowledge of reality.

But thanks for playing, derper.


You're missing the point completely.

I'm not on either "side." I don't identify myself with the right so why would I defend or attack what the right did when their guy was in office? It's in the past and only clouds the issue. Either side, left or right, who is only concerned with scoring political points and is unconcerned with the issue at hand is an idiot.

Your 'derper' comment pretty clearly confirms your position as one of those idiots.
 
2012-11-12 04:44:48 PM

rufus-t-firefly: WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.

So your just upset that this couldn't be used in time to tarnish President Obama's image before elections... good point...

So you....so you believe that the media should be using selective journalism in order to influence an election?

You don't really believe that, do you?

Are you saying that the media didn't report on the story in the weeks leading up to the election?

CNN, October 19: Diplomatic cables show anxiety about Benghazi violence, protection level

CBS News, October 23: Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on Sept. 11

MSNBC, October 27: Libyan witnesses recount organized Benghazi attack

ABC News, October 30: Game On? McCain Blasts Obama on Benghazi at 'Storm Relief' Rally

Were you just not paying attention?


Not Saying they didn't run a few reports on it, but no, they clearly didn't dig into the Benghazi full heartily.

As proof, I offer up the fact that CBS sat on the interview with Obama where he clearly says that Benghazi wasnt "terrorism", even thought the dispute from the debate was that he did call it a terror act in the rose garden press conference.
 
2012-11-12 04:46:02 PM

rufus-t-firefly: ABC News, October 30: Game On? McCain Blasts Obama on Benghazi at 'Storm Relief' Rally


I love that. "We're here to provide aid and relief for this huge killer weather disaster, but let me take this opportunity to continue accusing Obama of causing Benghazi!".
 
2012-11-12 04:47:15 PM
It goes a lot deeper than that.

Obama was notified within an hour, but did nothing; Petraeus was notified as well, passed it on but nobody did anything. Next we find out, Mueller knew about the Petraeus affair, but was ordered to keep it quiet until after the election.

He also knew the cartoon--movie had nothing to do with it, but kept up that farce anyway.

In addition, the bimbo in the case seems to have access to classified info which the Prexy himself did not have.

Even with the press to cover up, it's getting pretty thick.
 
2012-11-12 04:49:19 PM
I eagerly await word from the one person in our government most qualified to report on covert activities.

thecolu.mn
 
2012-11-12 04:50:22 PM

WhyKnot: rufus-t-firefly: WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.

So your just upset that this couldn't be used in time to tarnish President Obama's image before elections... good point...

So you....so you believe that the media should be using selective journalism in order to influence an election?

You don't really believe that, do you?

Are you saying that the media didn't report on the st ...


Ah, so now its a wording game, of course it doesn't bother you about the funding cut itself, what really matters is what you say and it upsets you that actions speak louder than words in a silly upside down liberal world...

President only said it was an act of terrorism twice in the days after .. if only he could have been more direct, or maybe said it three times, that would have brought them back... you're points are valid, just want you to admit them to yourself...
 
2012-11-12 04:51:43 PM

Blues_X: Wait... she's also been mounting the evidence?


Broadwell gives a new meaning to embedded reporters.
 
2012-11-12 04:53:47 PM
If only this had come out before the election. If only the left wing media hadn't covered it up. It would have been a Game Changer. -snif-

/Just like all these Game Changers

Cars. Sandy's arrival. Chris Christie. President Obama's divorce papers. Donald Trump's challenge to Obama. The first debate. Fox News report on CIA's request for military backup in Benghazi. Pennsylvania. Romney's tax plan. Arizona's birther law. The revelation that President Obama is not very good at basketball. Lindsay Lohan's Romney endorsement. The second debate. Paul Ryan. Those Sarah Silverman GOTV videos. Jobs. Paul Ryan's Medicare plan. That Daily Caller video. DHS immigration directive. A hypothetical Romney pledge to only serve one term. Romney's VMI speech. Dreams From My Real Father. A hypothetical joint US-Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear facilities. A hypothetical debate question about why Obama didn't dispatch F-16s to Benghazi. The youth vote. Conservative turnout in Cuyahoga County, Ohio. Ohio. The entire election. The Osama Bin Laden raid. A book about the Osama Bin Laden raid. A hypothetical McCain vice presidency. The Benghazi cover-up. A new book from WorldNetDaily. A hypothetical question about Simpson-Bowles. First-time Puerto Rican voters. Latinos. Asian-Americans. The 47 percent tape. Paul Ryan's "makers and takers" riff. Suburban women. October jobs report. September jobs report. Democrats' ground game. Obama's tech operation. James O'Keefe's voter fraud sting. Gallup early voting poll. October 27 Gallup tracking poll. Gloria Allred. The Walker recall. Paul Ryan's interview with WJRT-TV, Flint. January jobs report. The Des Moines Register endorsement. Ann Romney's RNC speech. Paul Ryan's VP speech. Mitt Romney's RNC speech. Dick Morris' television ad (as reported by Dick Morris). Middle East chaos. Todd Akin. Bill Clinton's DNC speech. Obama's gay marriage endorsement. Ladies. Virgil Goode. Obama's voter registration figures. Dinesh D'Souza's movie. 1998 video of Obama making case for progressivism. Boston Globe's Bain story. Hypothetical release of Romney tax returns from hackers who demanded ransom payment in Bitcoins. The status quo.
 
2012-11-12 04:59:44 PM

dryknife: Blues_X: Wait... she's also been mounting the evidence?

Broadwell gives a new meaning to embedded reporters.


YOU WIN THE THREAD.
 
2012-11-12 05:04:25 PM

protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: rufus-t-firefly: WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.

So your just upset that this couldn't be used in time to tarnish President Obama's image before elections... good point...

So you....so you believe that the media should be using selective journalism in order to influence an election?

You don't really believe that, do you?

Are you saying that the media didn't report on the st ...

Ah, so now its a wording game, of course it doesn't bother you about the funding cut itself, what really matters is what you say and it upsets you that actions speak louder than words in a silly upside down liberal world...

President only said it was an act of terrorism twice in the days after .. if only he could have been more direct, or maybe said it three times, that would have brought them back... you're points are valid, just want you to admit them to yourself...


Stop projecting your politics.

I really don't care who was in the office at the time, what I care about is that the administration was playing fast and loose with facts for political protection, and that various media outlets refused to pursue the story in order to assist their "guy". I would be upset if Fox is it for Bush.
 
2012-11-12 05:04:32 PM

olddinosaur: Mueller knew about the Petraeus affair, but was ordered to keep it quiet until after the election.

Even with the press to cover up, it's getting pretty thick.


Keep dreaming.

Teabagger in chief Eric Cantor knew about Petreaus infidelity and didn't tell. Unlike Cantor, Obama didn't know until after the election. If anyone seemed ready to use it politically, it was the Republicans, not the Democrats.

As for Benghazi, Petreaus is going to take the heat whether he was to blame or not. Benghazi was a screw up, but it was so far below the President's pay grade none of it will ever stick to him. No more than the Beirut marine barracks bombing stuck to Regan or Khobar towers stuck to Clinton. The American public realizes that overseas is dangerous, bad shiat happens in remote outposts and a President is not all knowing.

/Because of that, because of Cantor's involvement, because of Petreaus's cock up, Obama will be Teflon on this. Despite Fox News best attempts otherwise.
 
2012-11-12 05:12:32 PM

WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: rufus-t-firefly: WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: kindms: WhyKnot: s1ugg0: There are some very legitimate questions to be asked about what happened in Benghazi. And before anyone starts attacking me, I'm a liberal and I believe this.

However, the problem is Fox News.

They have been like a dog with a bone on this issue. So now real news organizations are afraid to get lumped in with the crazies. So they have been avoiding the story. But a US diplomat was murdered under very bizarre circumstances. It should be investigated. Questions should be asked. But sadly because Fox News decided they might be able to stick this to Obama and prevent him from being reelected; no one reputable is investigating this. If they hadn't been so rabid to score political points before an election we might actual have some dialog on this.

Once again proving they support party/ideology over America.

As a counter point...doesn't the fact that the other news outlets were unwilling to legitimately investigate this story before the election show they were willing to down play a legitimate story prior to an election in order to help Obama get elected?

you mean like the NYTimes sitting on the illegal wholesale wiring tapping by the Bush Admin on every American for over a year at the behest of the white house until after the election ?

Off the top of my head i do not recall that issue, but if true, then yes.

I wasnt defending fox news, I was simply pointing out that this isn't just a "fox news is bad" issue; rather, both sides care more about "their guy/side" than being actual journalists willing to report the facts irrespective of the impact on politics.

So your just upset that this couldn't be used in time to tarnish President Obama's image before elections... good point...

So you....so you believe that the media should be using selective journalism in order to influence an election?

You don't really believe that, do you?

Are you saying that the me ...


You should really re read your posts, then look at the facts given right after. Just because every news outlet didnt go into full "special" reporting (never go full special reporting) like fox news did, doesnt mean this was not covered by the media.

Explain to me why this was reason President Obama shouldn't have been re-elected, maybe I am being dismissive and missing the point....
 
2012-11-12 05:19:33 PM
Goddamn republicans, keep trying to make Benghazi a thing. Just with this affair and leaking of classified information and secret cia facility and lying to congress the cause of the attack and the whole cover up. just keep trying to make this a thing. republicans will never make this a thing.
 
2012-11-12 05:22:25 PM

I_C_Weener: Wait....Petraeus testified to Congress that the attack was about the video?


wait, i thought no one blamed the attack on the video. that is what farkers have been saying for two months straight. from the get-go, right away, everyone was calling it a terrorist attack. obama called it a terrorist attack. susan rice called it a terrorist attack. hillary said terrorist attack. no one said it was the youtube video.

the real question here is *WHY* did petraeus testify to congress the attack was about the video when he clearly knew otherwise.
 
2012-11-12 05:25:58 PM
I never said that this issue was central to why he shouldn't have been elected, I used this issue as an example of partisan journalism.

S1ugg0 raised the issue that Fox News tried so hard to score political points and keep Obama out of the White House, that they were acting in their party's best interest and not those of the country. I countered with an argument that the other media organizations could likewise be guilt of 'party over country' by not zealously investigating and/or reporting on a legitimate issue.

The administration clearly made contradictory statements about what happened in Benghazi and the main stream media for the most part did not press the administration for clarity or call them on the contradictory statements.

Again, not saying this means that Mitt should have won. I am just calling out the hypocrisy.
 
2012-11-12 05:26:58 PM

SlothB77: I_C_Weener: Wait....Petraeus testified to Congress that the attack was about the video?

wait, i thought no one blamed the attack on the video. that is what farkers have been saying for two months straight. from the get-go, right away, everyone was calling it a terrorist attack. obama called it a terrorist attack. susan rice called it a terrorist attack. hillary said terrorist attack. no one said it was the youtube video.

the real question here is *WHY* did petraeus testify to congress the attack was about the video when he clearly knew otherwise.


Maybe they didnt want those responsible to know what they really knew, maybe it was a giant coverup because President Obama personally demanded less protection hrs before the attack... or maybe you care about those American deaths also and its not just the butthurt speaking for you....

the world will never know...
 
2012-11-12 05:29:10 PM

WhyKnot: I never said that this issue was central to why he shouldn't have been elected, I used this issue as an example of partisan journalism.

S1ugg0 raised the issue that Fox News tried so hard to score political points and keep Obama out of the White House, that they were acting in their party's best interest and not those of the country. I countered with an argument that the other media organizations could likewise be guilt of 'party over country' by not zealously investigating and/or reporting on a legitimate issue.

The administration clearly made contradictory statements about what happened in Benghazi and the main stream media for the most part did not press the administration for clarity or call them on the contradictory statements.

Again, not saying this means that Mitt should have won. I am just calling out the hypocrisy.


In media yes, I saw it over stated on some channels, understated on others, but not covered up or ignored which is what you implied, or did I jump to conclusions not reading all the previous posts, if so I apologize
 
2012-11-12 05:42:32 PM

protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: I never said that this issue was central to why he shouldn't have been elected, I used this issue as an example of partisan journalism.

S1ugg0 raised the issue that Fox News tried so hard to score political points and keep Obama out of the White House, that they were acting in their party's best interest and not those of the country. I countered with an argument that the other media organizations could likewise be guilt of 'party over country' by not zealously investigating and/or reporting on a legitimate issue.

The administration clearly made contradictory statements about what happened in Benghazi and the main stream media for the most part did not press the administration for clarity or call them on the contradictory statements.

Again, not saying this means that Mitt should have won. I am just calling out the hypocrisy.

In media yes, I saw it over stated on some channels, understated on others, but not covered up or ignored which is what you implied, or did I jump to conclusions not reading all the previous posts, if so I apologize


I feel it was under reported; I think most media outlets at least gave it some degree is lip service so they can save face, but I think it was intentionally under reported which gives the impression of trying to sweep it under the rug.

With respect to the CBS video...I do feel that was pretty egregious. There was the whole issue of whether Mr. Obama said it was "terrorist" in the rose garden...and CBS is sitting on video whereby Mr. Obama directly contradicts the administration's spin on the topic. They held that video until a few days before the election.

Bad reporting cuts both ways and we as citizens need to demand more from our media and from our politicians.
 
2012-11-12 05:55:57 PM
It would have been much better if the President just came out right away and revealed all of the undercover agents identities so they could be all killed, too, right, rather than delaying release of that information until Americans and allied agents could be secured?
 
2012-11-12 06:15:36 PM

RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: It would have been much better if the President just came out right away and revealed all of the undercover agents identities so they could be all killed, too, right, rather than delaying release of that information until Americans and allied agents could be secured?


What I came here to say.

I know you think you really have to, but its best if you quit pulling at that thread...
 
2012-11-12 06:29:28 PM
Wow, are we outraged enough now? Can we punt this thread, please?
 
2012-11-12 06:30:50 PM

Smeggy Smurf: We've been arming terrorists and the left is cool with that. That's good to know. Let us know how that works out for you.


Hey man Reagan was cool with it.
And if the "terrorists" committing a military attack were just attacking another well known evil terrorist organization (the CIA), i give no farks.
The Crips and Bloods downtown are free to kill each other off too for all I care.
 
2012-11-12 06:57:16 PM

Smeggy Smurf: We've been arming terrorists and the left is cool with that. That's good to know. Let us know how that works out for you.


Oh like the Iran-Contra affair!
 
2012-11-12 06:59:07 PM
Ok, lady. While you make have thought sleeping with the CIA director and using classified information as pillow talk was all cool and spy movie-like 'n shiat, and then to make matters even worse you went and publically flapped your lips with said information, that was actually really, really dumb. You are dumb.
 
2012-11-12 07:14:12 PM
I thought the consulate and the annex were two separate sites?

That is why it took 25 minutes for the first forces to get to the consulate, they had to come from the CIA annex.

Basically, the militants/terrorists initially attacked the wrong target. Only later did they attack the annex with mortar fire.
 
2012-11-12 07:25:57 PM

Bontesla: MaudlinMutantMollusk: DamnYankees: Is this just news? Or is it supposed to be part of some conspiracy?

It's the latest Fox News attempt to stir up a conspiracy theory

This just in : attackers justify their crimes with reasons.

This is also not something that would have been changed under a Republican presidency.

I really hate Fox News.


Well, I'm actually a bit worried the terrorists can't differentiate between our embassy and a CIA annex. Either we really mislabeled something, or damn, those are some pants-on-head retarded terrorists.

/Maybe we should put a neon sign on our embassy saying WE ARE NOT THE CIA?
 
2012-11-12 08:10:31 PM
What Fox News said: "A well-placed Washington source..."

What Fox News meant: "A 96B at Joint Base Lewis-McChord who may or may not have read the month's traffic, but is probably just speculating..."


/agree that the timing of GEN Petraeus' resignation is interesting
//understand that Broadwell is also a former intel officer - so I doubt she would deliberately spill the beans on classified shiat as it would carry a more significant penalty for her than for Joe Blow since officers can be recalled at any time to active duty. She's likely a crazy AW, but I doubt very seriously that she's stupid.
///Fox News. Honestly, does any more need to be said?
 
2012-11-12 09:06:07 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: DamnYankees: Is this just news? Or is it supposed to be part of some conspiracy?

It's the latest Fox News attempt to stir up a conspiracy theory


And they recruited Paula Broadwell into their plot? Their shadowy grasp must know no bounds.

"Now I don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually had taken a couple of Libya militia members prisoner," Broadwell said. "And they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that's still being vetted."
 
2012-11-12 09:11:03 PM

jjorsett: MaudlinMutantMollusk: DamnYankees: Is this just news? Or is it supposed to be part of some conspiracy?

It's the latest Fox News attempt to stir up a conspiracy theory

And they recruited Paula Broadwell into their plot? Their shadowy grasp must know no bounds.

"Now I don't know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually had taken a couple of Libya militia members prisoner," Broadwell said. "And they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that's still being vetted."


So it wasn't a terrorist attack, then? Since the intent was to rescue comrades, not to terrorize?
 
2012-11-12 09:15:26 PM

Heraclitus: RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: It would have been much better if the President just came out right away and revealed all of the undercover agents identities so they could be all killed, too, right, rather than delaying release of that information until Americans and allied agents could be secured?

What I came here to say.

I know you think you really have to, but its best if you quit pulling at that thread...


You are quite correct.

But sometimes don't you just want to crash another train into a train wreck?
 
2012-11-12 10:37:53 PM
What in the the name of heaven is wrong with you people? Seventeen hours ago this story was hinging on persons missing from the chain of command, now it's about the fall of a soft holding cell? I flat cannot imagine a duo more quick to jet from responsibility than the current tandem of Rice and Obama, who have danced around the pylon rather than face the music. They should have mobilized a flight of B-52s to go go pound them, but their public image, limited as it is by the scorchers they have passed off, are a devolved mess leaving vapor trails of madness across the sky.
 
2012-11-12 10:51:04 PM
Soooo, it turns out the president lied about the attacks because he didn't want to blow the CIA's cover. Thanks GOP for blowing the CIA's cover (again) in an effort to score political points.
 
2012-11-12 11:01:05 PM

Tman144: Soooo, it turns out the president lied about the attacks because he didn't want to blow the CIA's cover. Thanks GOP for blowing the CIA's cover (again) in an effort to score political points.


The GOP would blow up America personally if it meant Obama and the left could never hold the presidency again.
 
2012-11-13 12:12:03 AM

Tman144: Soooo, it turns out the president lied about the attacks because he didn't want to blow the CIA's cover. Thanks GOP for blowing the CIA's cover (again) in an effort to score political points.


Uh, I'm pretty sure that it was Obama's CIA director's girlfriend who blew the cover.

The FBI is at her house right now.

Probably the GOP's fault.

Yeah, that.
 
2012-11-13 12:20:24 AM

halfof33: Probably the GOP's fault.
Yeah, that.


derp
 
2012-11-13 12:27:29 AM

whidbey: derp


Oh c'mon, we should shut down the thread! Whidbey is uncomfortable with it!

Crafty GOP causing Obama to appoint a CIA director with an imbedded reporter.

Stupid FBI searching her house right this second.

Post "derp" again.
 
2012-11-13 12:37:05 AM

halfof33: Tman144: Soooo, it turns out the president lied about the attacks because he didn't want to blow the CIA's cover. Thanks GOP for blowing the CIA's cover (again) in an effort to score political points.

Uh, I'm pretty sure that it was Obama's CIA director's girlfriend who blew the cover.

The FBI is at her house right now.

Probably the GOP's fault.

Yeah, that.


Well, without Issa's stupid hearing that blew the lid off of the CIA thing, we could have just chalked this up as "crazy talk." The only reason this one line from the crazy lady is even news is because of the GOP's constant obsession with this issue.
 
2012-11-13 12:44:55 AM

Tman144: Well, without Issa's stupid hearing that blew the lid off of the CIA thing, we could have just chalked this up as "crazy talk." The only reason this one line from the crazy lady is even news is because of the GOP's constant obsession with this issue.


You are confusing "news" with "intelligence."

"Her response was reported originally by Israel's Arutz Sheva and Foreign Policy's Blake Hounshell."

Not sure that the US deserves less reporting than the folks in Israel or the subscribers to Foreign Policy.

I'm sure they knew that the CIA director was four stars deep before, if you get my drift.
 
2012-11-13 01:07:23 AM

halfof33: Post "derp" again.


Thanks to you, I don't have to. You may now continue your pathetic display of post-Republican Lost Syndrome.
 
2012-11-13 01:10:36 AM

whidbey: halfof33: Post "derp" again.

Thanks to you, I don't have to. You may now continue your pathetic display of post-Republican Lost Syndrome.


That is odd, you didn't actually respond to the rest of what I posted.

Next time, just post "derp." That is your go to Whids
 
2012-11-13 01:12:32 AM

halfof33: Next time, just post "derp."


That's your job. I'm just commenting on its consistency.
 
2012-11-13 01:15:24 AM

whidbey: halfof33: Next time, just post "derp."

That's your job. I'm just commenting on its consistency.


Awww, can't we punt this thread, please?

Hee hee!

Silly GOP causing Obama to appoint him as CIA Director, crafty GOP.

Lets not talk about it. And maybe the FBI can leave his fark buddy alone!
 
2012-11-13 01:18:22 AM

halfof33: Silly GOP causing Obama to appoint him as CIA Director, crafty GOP.

Lets not talk about it. And maybe the FBI can leave his fark buddy alone!



lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-11-13 01:56:42 AM

whidbey: Honestly, if this is such a big deal, I want to see a Reuters or AP report on it.


Or Al Jazeera. Seems the sort of thing they would be all over, if they had a credible source.
 
2012-11-13 03:03:03 AM

Smeggy Smurf: We've been arming terrorists and the left is cool with that. That's good to know. Let us know how that works out for you.


We (actually They) have been arming terrorists for many decades. It's not a Left or Right thing...it's a CIA thing. They play very complex games with the entire world. Politicians just get to watch.
 
2012-11-13 07:18:17 AM

Smeggy Smurf: We've been arming terrorists and the left is cool with that. That's good to know. Let us know how that works out for you.


Sorry what was that?

manhattanoffender.typepad.com
 
2012-11-13 10:01:16 AM

Vertdang: Smeggy Smurf: We've been arming terrorists and the left is cool with that. That's good to know. Let us know how that works out for you.

Sorry what was that?

[manhattanoffender.typepad.com image 500x244]


Can you find the original picture from the NY Times with the names under the photo so people like yourself can google the names to find out what happened to those "taliban"?

No oh ok.....you;re just gonna copy pasta someone elses outrage?


/the guys in that photo were assassinated by the Taliban due to their alliance with the US.
//2 were killed on 9-10,
///stay infromed bro
 
2012-11-13 11:41:41 AM

The One True TheDavid: PlatinumDragon:

What? People might attack foreign facilities being used as prisons in an attempt to free their comrades?

This is clearly Zerobama's fault. No one else would have conceived of such a thing before his misrule. I'm reluctantly voting Romney.

Wow, your time machine WORKS?


And you can't have it, so nyah nyah nya-nyah nyahhhhhh *raspberry*
 
2012-11-13 01:17:28 PM

Giltric: Can you find the original picture from the NY Times with the names under the photo so people like yourself can google the names to find out what happened to those "taliban"?


*shrug*

Make of it what you will.

But no matter what president we've had and what side of the fence has had the ball, our policy with the Middle East has always been to back the side that's the most receptive to us.

At that time, Osama and his Mujahedin had two advantages in this regard:

1) They liked the Ruskies less than they liked us
2) They didn't have an issue with us arming and training them.

It's longstanding practices like this which make any of our flowery overtures about "peace in the MIddle East" or "freeing the people" there pretty laughable. At best.
 
2012-11-13 02:25:57 PM
Man, I hope this doesn't hurt Obama's reelection chances.
 
2012-11-13 03:17:06 PM

Giltric: ///stay infromed bro


LOL if you were "informed" you wouldn't be whiteknighting that war criminal Reagan or ignoring the utter ignorance and hypocrisy of his statement.
 
2012-11-13 04:22:01 PM

whidbey: LOL if you were "informed" you wouldn't be whiteknighting that war criminal Reagan or ignoring the utter ignorance and hypocrisy of his statement.


IRONY!

media.sbs.com.au

He's still not gonna sleep with you Whids.
 
2012-11-15 10:20:15 AM

WhyKnot: protectyourlimbs: WhyKnot: I never said that this issue was central to why he shouldn't have been elected, I used this issue as an example of partisan journalism.

S1ugg0 raised the issue that Fox News tried so hard to score political points and keep Obama out of the White House, that they were acting in their party's best interest and not those of the country. I countered with an argument that the other media organizations could likewise be guilt of 'party over country' by not zealously investigating and/or reporting on a legitimate issue.

The administration clearly made contradictory statements about what happened in Benghazi and the main stream media for the most part did not press the administration for clarity or call them on the contradictory statements.

Again, not saying this means that Mitt should have won. I am just calling out the hypocrisy.

In media yes, I saw it over stated on some channels, understated on others, but not covered up or ignored which is what you implied, or did I jump to conclusions not reading all the previous posts, if so I apologize

I feel it was under reported; I think most media outlets at least gave it some degree is lip service so they can save face, but I think it was intentionally under reported which gives the impression of trying to sweep it under the rug.

With respect to the CBS video...I do feel that was pretty egregious. There was the whole issue of whether Mr. Obama said it was "terrorist" in the rose garden...and CBS is sitting on video whereby Mr. Obama directly contradicts the administration's spin on the topic. They held that video until a few days before the election.

Bad reporting cuts both ways and we as citizens need to demand more from our media and from our politicians.


right, but my point was that you only seem to be upset when the coverage doesn't agree with your opinion, you dont seem to be bothered by FOX "news" 24/7 campaign against everything President Obama has, is and will do, but you DEMAND a more unbiased coverage from CBS and other news organizations for the wording of his speech the day of/after the attacks of terror...

Weather it's right or wrong, i just want you to admit it to yourself, first step and all....
 
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