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(WTSP)   Veteran's Day just wouldn't be Veteran's Day without some IRL troll hanging his flag upside down. With IRL pics   (wtsp.com) divider line 31
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2012-11-12 12:05:08 PM
9 votes:

Vangor: Whatever. He is upset about the election and is not hurting the flag at all. Plus, he served for many years. He is entitled to this though I disagree with his position and his expression.


As a current active duty member of the Core, I think he needs to pull his head out of his ass.

Flying the flag upside down is a sign of deep distress for a ship, a unit, or the country. He is personally upset that that a candidate of his choice was defeated in a relatively fair, open, and democratic process. There were no riots in the streets, there were no bombings at polling stations, and it sounds like voter intimidation was minimal.

Our country is not in distress, our country just showed that we can still hold to our ideals in the face of some determined efforts to undermine them. His hissy fit over candidate selection does not rate a flag upside down. He is not the United States, and his political party is not the United States. The flag belongs to us all. He is being dis-respectful to the flag, and to the members of the armed forces who have died trying to help people in Iraq and Afghanistan have elections as smooth and fair as ours just was.
2012-11-12 11:55:58 AM
6 votes:
Whatever. He is upset about the election and is not hurting the flag at all. Plus, he served for many years. He is entitled to this though I disagree with his position and his expression.
2012-11-12 11:59:22 AM
4 votes:
It's a sign of distress. Send him a bunch of emergency services and charge him for it.
2012-11-12 11:58:42 AM
4 votes:

buttery_shame_cave: freedom of speech, how does it farking work?


Both ways. HE complains with the upside down flag and his neighbors get to call him an ass.
2012-11-12 12:12:11 PM
3 votes:

Nightsweat: buttery_shame_cave: freedom of speech, how does it farking work?

Both ways. HE complains with the upside down flag and his neighbors get to call him an ass.


THIS.
2012-11-12 01:19:51 PM
2 votes:

henryhill


More people should do things of this nature so the idiots stand out from the crowd. I have the feeling that if this guy considers his current situation to be distress, his time in the Navy was rather uneventful.


Or he was kicked out of the Navy for being a dumbass and now has an axe to grind against the government.

He said he was in for 7.5 years. Enlistments are normally in increments of 4 years, so the fact that he got out six months early is a little odd.
2012-11-12 01:10:30 PM
2 votes:

Pants full of macaroni!!: Can you even tell if a Confederate flag is flying upside down?


janedoerecovery.com

nope
2012-11-12 12:46:07 PM
2 votes:
7.5 years service? What was the reason for his early discharge? That could explain a lot.
2012-11-12 12:44:03 PM
2 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Why are people shiatting their parents over the election? Obama has done a decent job so far, what's all the panic about another term?


Because cheap, easy access to heathcare, regulating banks, and paying higher taxes makes Jesus cry. You know, the guy who healed the sick, kicked the asses of the moneylenders, and said "Yield unto Caesar what is Caesar's"

Ironic, isn't it.
2012-11-12 11:55:48 AM
2 votes:
freedom of speech, how does it farking work?
2012-11-12 02:44:43 PM
1 votes:
So, can we come back and interview this guy in 4 years to find out exactly how horrible his life will be due to a re-election?
2012-11-12 02:03:44 PM
1 votes:

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: It is not disrespectful to fly the flag in this manner.


Flying the flag upside down conventionally indicates an immediate danger to one's life. Whatever one thinks about the results of an election, there is no immediate danger to that man's life. In a sense, what he's doing is the visual equivalent of calling 911.
2012-11-12 02:01:20 PM
1 votes:

GranoblasticMan: Why'd you post the French flag?


France has a rich, successful military tradition of empire and conquest. The South fought 1 war and got their asses kicked.
2012-11-12 01:45:57 PM
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Nightsweat: AverageAmericanGuy: This country is in trouble. It's been in trouble for over a decade now.

The Mexican drug war is banging on our front gates and seems ready to spill into the southern states.



LA TImes had an article that there was an expectation that the vote legalizing pot in two states last Tuesday would cut billions off the Mexican cartels profits since suppliers would probably turn to semi-legal pot from the States rather than risk crossing the border. They thought it could cut billions off the cartels' bottom line.

There are a couple problems with that. First being that marijuana is still illegal at the Federal level, so there isn't any legal interstate commerce allowing it to be imported from WA or CO. Second, the users aren't only living in WA and CO. The number of users living outside those two states far outnumber those two. Third, even if the supply from WA and CO were sufficient to fulfill the demand throughout the country, the very fact that the producers were legal and subject to licensing means that they would be loath to jump back into the gray zone by distributing across state lines.

Now, there might be smuggling to bring American-grown pot to the rest of the states, but now we're talking about competing with the Mexican drug cartels for marketshare, and if the past decade has shown us anything it's that they take competition very seriously.

I just don't see the problem of Mexican drugs going away or even being mitigated in states that don't have decriminalization.


Mexican drug cartels won't go away with the legalization of Marijuana. However, it will severely cut into their profits, making them far less able to continue their choke-hold on Mexican politicians, police, and the populace. It will also make them far easier to deal with at the boarder.

As far as US pot being able to compete with Mexico, you bet it will. When was the last time you were stopped at a state/state border? It will be dangerous to transport drugs out of CO and WA, yes, but must less dangerous than getting them into the US via Mexico. The quality control will also be FAR superior. Meaning, buyer won't need to purchase as much because THC levels will be better, and they will be able to purchase less, which translates into transporting less, which makes the prices go down. Also, more people will be flocking to WA and CO for vacation for the purpose of being able to legally use Marijuana...because why not?

and if I remember correctly, in CO every resident will be able to grow 6 plants in their homes. the roughly 5k federal agents throughout the US will not be going door to door to bust people federally for growing plants. And they won't be getting help from the state agencies either. That would be a direct violation of the law that was passed.

If things go right, this is the beginning of the end for the drug war, and the beginning of a far more peaceful and financially stable American society. Hopefully.
2012-11-12 01:12:02 PM
1 votes:
More people should do things of this nature so the idiots stand out from the crowd. I have the feeling that if this guy considers his current situation to be distress, his time in the Navy was rather uneventful.
2012-11-12 01:10:27 PM
1 votes:
By violating Chapter 1, Title 4 of the United States Code (a Federal law) and the Supreme Court's ruling on the law, he is only proving his own idiocy.

Guy violates federal law to complain about our freedoms being taken away.

Supreme Court already ruled that enforcement of the law is a violation of the 1st Amendment.

Guy is a farking moron.
2012-11-12 01:10:25 PM
1 votes:
I knew this guy would be Navy. I just knew it.

Thanks for serving, thanks even more for getting out.
2012-11-12 01:07:43 PM
1 votes:

Stone Meadow: Holocaust Agnostic: Stone Meadow: DrPainMD: As if the country would be in any less distress if Romney had won. There's not a dime's worth of difference between the two.

There is in whom each would pick for the Supreme Court, which is where much of a president's real legacy is made.

One would appoint right leaning moderates. The other would appoint right leaning moderates. Oh God the horror.

Are you always this self delusional?


How the heck would I know?
2012-11-12 12:43:19 PM
1 votes:
So the country is in distress. Who is he calling on to come save us? China?

So, my official stance on the issue is "I do not advocate inviting a foreign power to invade us".

I know, it's a bold stance.
2012-11-12 12:41:59 PM
1 votes:
Came to read the histrionics and hyperbole from both sides of the divide. Leaving satisfied and convinced the biggest threat facing our society is all the asshats proclaiming the end is nigh.
2012-11-12 12:40:47 PM
1 votes:
"I figure if they can burn the flag, if they can spit on it, if they can put it down as a doormat, why can't I fly it upside down?" says Philip Hoezel, a Fleming Island resident.

Because as we know all liberals start their day by wiping their feet with a flag, spitting on it and then tossing it into a burning pile of refuse.

Philip Hoezel says he served the Navy for seven and half years and is now using his first amendment right to express his dissatisfaction with last Tuesday's election results.

There's a shocker. Another ignorant hick putting his stupidity on public display.
2012-11-12 12:36:14 PM
1 votes:
i have no problem with people who want to advertise to the whole neighborhood that they are a giant Ahole. Hes going us all a service.
2012-11-12 12:29:29 PM
1 votes:
As if the country would be in any less distress if Romney had won. There's not a dime's worth of difference between the two.
2012-11-12 12:24:48 PM
1 votes:
Petty people do petty things.

News at 11
2012-11-12 12:15:21 PM
1 votes:
Mo-rons gotta mo-ron.....
2012-11-12 12:07:36 PM
1 votes:
Hooray, right down the street from me! Nice enough area, but plenty of derptatstic morons wedged in between the new neighborhoods.
2012-11-12 12:07:19 PM
1 votes:

Vangor: He is entitled to this though I disagree with his position and his expression.


Yes, and you are entitled to disagree with him and to voice your disagreement.

I don't get when "freedom of speech" turned into "freedom from consequences" for so many people.
2012-11-12 12:02:51 PM
1 votes:
This country is in trouble. It's been in trouble for over a decade now.

People are still out of work and even those who have found work are underemployed.

The dollar has been in the basement for two years now, and no significant tick up of exports has accompanied that.

China is openly threatening our allies in Asia.

The Mexican drug war is banging on our front gates and seems ready to spill into the southern states.

The country is in trouble, and highlighting that with the sign for distress is reasonable.
2012-11-12 12:00:52 PM
1 votes:
It is not disrespectful to fly the flag in this manner.
2012-11-12 12:00:01 PM
1 votes:
So what?

Fer your information, that would be the why we all went to war in the first place.
Stupid media.
Voice your opinion sure, force your opinion on someone else, not so much.

/back when we actually believed in war, (sic), which finally turns out to be just a plaything for Imperial Profits, Inc.
2012-11-12 11:59:10 AM
1 votes:
Why are people shiatting their parents over the election? Obama has done a decent job so far, what's all the panic about another term?
 
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