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(Live Science)   The good news: there is so much natural gas in the seafloor of Israel's Haifa Bay that it is literally leaking out its pores. The bad news: any attempt to drill for it and capture it might destroy the Med.Sea, or possibly the planet   (livescience.com) divider line 10
    More: Interesting, Haifa Bay, seafloor, stomata, continental shelfs, University of Haifa, northern israel, greenhouse gases, gas leak  
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2012-11-12 04:13:06 PM  
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If I know anything about the modern fossil fuel industry, they'll be drilling for that gas no matter how dangerous.
2012-11-12 12:32:27 PM  
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Bontesla: Calls to drill it in 5... 4... 3...


This eschaton isn't going to immanentize itself, you know.
2012-11-13 05:53:25 AM  
1 votes:

Moonlightfox: Not going to happen while there's still Palestinians alive who can point at a map and say; "here is where my family lived before the invasion. Here is where a friend of mine was killed by an airstrike. Here is where an olive farm was razed by illegal settlers. Here's where the farmer's son was shot for protesting."


Because, you know, Israelis can't point at a map of other places in the world and say "Here is where my family were murdered".....

Both sides as as bad as each other. Sit them down with a big plate of bacon sandwiches and they can see how ridiculous it is to be fighting over pieces of the ground because their imaginary friends tell them they have a divine mandate to live there
2012-11-12 08:32:10 PM  
1 votes:

jvl: Moonlightfox: I think you mean Palestine's Haifa Bay.

Well, it will be if the Palestinian's ever finalize a peace treaty with Israel. In the meantime, it belongs to Israel to do with as they see fit. Just one more reason for the Palestinian's to make peace.


Not going to happen while there's still Palestinians alive who can point at a map and say; "here is where my family lived before the invasion. Here is where a friend of mine was killed by an airstrike. Here is where an olive farm was razed by illegal settlers. Here's where the farmer's son was shot for protesting."
2012-11-12 05:27:17 PM  
1 votes:
simplicimus:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Scientists don't fully understand how much methane leaking from the seafloor contributes additional carbon to the atmosphere, but the new findings suggest that gas deposits in continental shelves might be releasing more methane into the sea than previously thought

Climate change is ABSOLUTELY caused by humans...don't even THINK about discussing any other possible contributing factors.

Argue about the reasons, but here's the salient point Link. Sea level is rising, and we need to address the infrastructure changes required.


One of the most frustrating things about deniers (and yes, there's a reason that term is used) is when they assume that researchers are ignoring some major forcing such as the sun, volcanoes, clathrates, whatever and somehow if they were to take that into account, ACC would somehow magically no longer be an issue, or at least no longer our doing.

What they don't get, presumably because they don't want to get it, is that when you add up all the natural factors of solar cycles, vulcanism, Milankovich cycles and so on, it doesn't match what has been observed happening. There's a big gap between what the temperature of the atmosphere *should* be doing when you put the natural forcings all together and what has actually happened.

As it turns out, that gap matches very closely with what would happen if you incorporated pumping gigatonnes of fossil carbon into the atmosphere. Remarkable, that.

This is why it's called anthropogenic climate change. It's the stuff that matches what humans are doing.

But we still get some genius in every thread who seems to think "Yeah, them dumbass scientists probably ignored this factor!"

Well, you go right ahead and call Stockholm, Wile E. I'm sure you'll get the Nobel for your amazing insight that every researcher on the planet missed.
2012-11-12 05:10:56 PM  
1 votes:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Scientists don't fully understand how much methane leaking from the seafloor contributes additional carbon to the atmosphere, but the new findings suggest that gas deposits in continental shelves might be releasing more methane into the sea than previously thought

Climate change is ABSOLUTELY caused by humans...don't even THINK about discussing any other possible contributing factors.


Argue about the reasons, but here's the salient point Link. Sea level is rising, and we need to address the infrastructure changes required.
2012-11-12 05:02:27 PM  
1 votes:
DontMakeMeComeBackThere:

Scientists don't fully understand how much methane leaking from the seafloor contributes additional carbon to the atmosphere, but the new findings suggest that gas deposits in continental shelves might be releasing more methane into the sea than previously thought

Climate change is ABSOLUTELY caused by humans...don't even THINK about discussing any other possible contributing factors.


Because of course, the imaginary scientists in your head that you constantly yell at don't take such things into account or even work toward quantifying such factors.

Go on... Tell us how they don't take the sun into account as well. That's a pretty useful flag.
2012-11-12 04:49:36 PM  
1 votes:
Scientists don't fully understand how much methane leaking from the seafloor contributes additional carbon to the atmosphere, but the new findings suggest that gas deposits in continental shelves might be releasing more methane into the sea than previously thought

Climate change is ABSOLUTELY caused by humans...don't even THINK about discussing any other possible contributing factors.
jvl
2012-11-12 04:07:22 PM  
1 votes:

Moonlightfox: I think you mean Palestine's Haifa Bay.


Well, it will be if the Palestinian's ever finalize a peace treaty with Israel. In the meantime, it belongs to Israel to do with as they see fit. Just one more reason for the Palestinian's to make peace.
2012-11-12 02:58:36 PM  
1 votes:
The article doesn't mention it, but were the deposits clathrates?
 
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