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(Live Science)   The good news: there is so much natural gas in the seafloor of Israel's Haifa Bay that it is literally leaking out its pores. The bad news: any attempt to drill for it and capture it might destroy the Med.Sea, or possibly the planet   (livescience.com) divider line 39
    More: Interesting, Haifa Bay, seafloor, stomata, continental shelfs, University of Haifa, northern israel, greenhouse gases, gas leak  
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2012-11-12 11:46:28 AM  
Drill for it = bad. I have no problem with that, but installing a cone, like they did on the Deepwater Horizon well should have no repercution on the seabed.
 
2012-11-12 12:17:25 PM  
Calls to drill it in 5... 4... 3...
 
2012-11-12 12:32:27 PM  

Bontesla: Calls to drill it in 5... 4... 3...


This eschaton isn't going to immanentize itself, you know.
 
2012-11-12 12:34:41 PM  
Yeah cause that's what Israel needs right now. A large insulation full of explosive gas.
 
2012-11-12 02:54:38 PM  
It's a good thing the Eastern Med. isn't geologically active.
 
2012-11-12 02:56:25 PM  
jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com

Don't drill into it. It would be bad.
 
2012-11-12 02:58:01 PM  
I am envisioning the plot to the Iranian version of A View to a Kill. Except in theirs the seafloor successfully collapses, causing Israel to sink into the sea.
 
2012-11-12 02:58:36 PM  
The article doesn't mention it, but were the deposits clathrates?
 
2012-11-12 03:05:08 PM  
praxis redux
www.stardestroyer.net
 
2012-11-12 03:10:05 PM  
Did you read the farking article, subby?

FTA: We don't know yet what kind of gas we're talking about
 
2012-11-12 03:15:23 PM  
there is so much natural gas in the seafloor of Israel's Haifa Bay that it is literally leaking out its pores.

Natural gas is the subject of your sentence. So the gas is leaking out of its own pores?

/Subby fail English? That's unpossible!
 
2012-11-12 03:21:40 PM  

Flab: Drill for it = bad. I have no problem with that, but installing a cone, like they did on the Deepwater Horizon well should have no repercution on the seabed.


...Because Deepwater Horizon had no impact on the seafloor?

=Smidge=
 
2012-11-12 03:21:59 PM  

abhorrent1: Did you read the farking article, subby?

FTA: We don't know yet what kind of gas we're talking about



So you think there is a chance that it is "unnatural gas"?
 
2012-11-12 03:29:43 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: abhorrent1: Did you read the farking article, subby?

FTA: We don't know yet what kind of gas we're talking about


So you think there is a chance that it is "unnatural gas"?


It's a God fart. In waiting.
 
2012-11-12 03:55:29 PM  
Good thing there are no angry excitable people in that region.
 
2012-11-12 03:58:26 PM  
I think you mean Palestine's Haifa Bay.
 
jvl
2012-11-12 04:07:22 PM  

Moonlightfox: I think you mean Palestine's Haifa Bay.


Well, it will be if the Palestinian's ever finalize a peace treaty with Israel. In the meantime, it belongs to Israel to do with as they see fit. Just one more reason for the Palestinian's to make peace.
 
2012-11-12 04:12:09 PM  

Moonlightfox: I think you mean Palestine's Haifa Bay.


www.cynicalsmirk.com

Palestine?!? Israel to me goddammitt!!
 
2012-11-12 04:12:59 PM  

zappadog: praxis redux
[www.stardestroyer.net image 640x321]


Do we report this, sir?
 
2012-11-12 04:13:06 PM  
If I know anything about the modern fossil fuel industry, they'll be drilling for that gas no matter how dangerous.
 
2012-11-12 04:34:08 PM  
Palestine sounds more catchy.
 
2012-11-12 04:49:36 PM  
Scientists don't fully understand how much methane leaking from the seafloor contributes additional carbon to the atmosphere, but the new findings suggest that gas deposits in continental shelves might be releasing more methane into the sea than previously thought

Climate change is ABSOLUTELY caused by humans...don't even THINK about discussing any other possible contributing factors.
 
2012-11-12 04:50:13 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Scientists don't fully understand how much methane leaking from the seafloor contributes additional carbon to the atmosphere, but the new findings suggest that gas deposits in continental shelves might be releasing more methane into the sea than previously thought

Climate change is ABSOLUTELY caused by humans...don't even THINK about discussing any other possible contributing factors.


Aliens.
 
2012-11-12 05:02:27 PM  
DontMakeMeComeBackThere:

Scientists don't fully understand how much methane leaking from the seafloor contributes additional carbon to the atmosphere, but the new findings suggest that gas deposits in continental shelves might be releasing more methane into the sea than previously thought

Climate change is ABSOLUTELY caused by humans...don't even THINK about discussing any other possible contributing factors.


Because of course, the imaginary scientists in your head that you constantly yell at don't take such things into account or even work toward quantifying such factors.

Go on... Tell us how they don't take the sun into account as well. That's a pretty useful flag.
 
2012-11-12 05:10:39 PM  
THE EARTH!?!


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

/Hot like a lava man

Egad! I hope not! That's where I keep all my STUFF!
 
2012-11-12 05:10:56 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Scientists don't fully understand how much methane leaking from the seafloor contributes additional carbon to the atmosphere, but the new findings suggest that gas deposits in continental shelves might be releasing more methane into the sea than previously thought

Climate change is ABSOLUTELY caused by humans...don't even THINK about discussing any other possible contributing factors.


Argue about the reasons, but here's the salient point Link. Sea level is rising, and we need to address the infrastructure changes required.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-12 05:12:37 PM  
The Mediterranean Sea has been destroyed before, and Earth survived. See "Messinian salinity crisis".
 
2012-11-12 05:27:17 PM  
simplicimus:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Scientists don't fully understand how much methane leaking from the seafloor contributes additional carbon to the atmosphere, but the new findings suggest that gas deposits in continental shelves might be releasing more methane into the sea than previously thought

Climate change is ABSOLUTELY caused by humans...don't even THINK about discussing any other possible contributing factors.

Argue about the reasons, but here's the salient point Link. Sea level is rising, and we need to address the infrastructure changes required.


One of the most frustrating things about deniers (and yes, there's a reason that term is used) is when they assume that researchers are ignoring some major forcing such as the sun, volcanoes, clathrates, whatever and somehow if they were to take that into account, ACC would somehow magically no longer be an issue, or at least no longer our doing.

What they don't get, presumably because they don't want to get it, is that when you add up all the natural factors of solar cycles, vulcanism, Milankovich cycles and so on, it doesn't match what has been observed happening. There's a big gap between what the temperature of the atmosphere *should* be doing when you put the natural forcings all together and what has actually happened.

As it turns out, that gap matches very closely with what would happen if you incorporated pumping gigatonnes of fossil carbon into the atmosphere. Remarkable, that.

This is why it's called anthropogenic climate change. It's the stuff that matches what humans are doing.

But we still get some genius in every thread who seems to think "Yeah, them dumbass scientists probably ignored this factor!"

Well, you go right ahead and call Stockholm, Wile E. I'm sure you'll get the Nobel for your amazing insight that every researcher on the planet missed.
 
2012-11-12 05:39:10 PM  

Sliding Carp: Bontesla: Calls to drill it in 5... 4... 3...

This eschaton isn't going to immanentize itself, you know.


Farking lazy eschaton.
 
2012-11-12 08:14:15 PM  
At the outset of their study, researchers from the University of Haifa found more than 700 pockmarks (some at least 200 feet, or 60 meters, across)

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-12 08:32:10 PM  

jvl: Moonlightfox: I think you mean Palestine's Haifa Bay.

Well, it will be if the Palestinian's ever finalize a peace treaty with Israel. In the meantime, it belongs to Israel to do with as they see fit. Just one more reason for the Palestinian's to make peace.


Not going to happen while there's still Palestinians alive who can point at a map and say; "here is where my family lived before the invasion. Here is where a friend of mine was killed by an airstrike. Here is where an olive farm was razed by illegal settlers. Here's where the farmer's son was shot for protesting."
 
2012-11-12 09:02:09 PM  
Moonlightfox:

jvl: Moonlightfox: I think you mean Palestine's Haifa Bay.

Well, it will be if the Palestinian's ever finalize a peace treaty with Israel. In the meantime, it belongs to Israel to do with as they see fit. Just one more reason for the Palestinian's to make peace.

Not going to happen while there's still Palestinians alive who can point at a map and say; "here is where my family lived before the invasion. Here is where a friend of mine was killed by an airstrike. Here is where an olive farm was razed by illegal settlers. Here's where the farmer's son was shot for protesting."


Just to make it worse... "Here is where some bronze-age god said we were the chosen ones and owned it as absentee landlords."

That's something I am never gonna get, but then I'll probably have all eternity in hell to ponder it.
 
2012-11-12 09:13:27 PM  
I wonder who we'll start a war with in order to get it.
 
2012-11-13 05:53:25 AM  

Moonlightfox: Not going to happen while there's still Palestinians alive who can point at a map and say; "here is where my family lived before the invasion. Here is where a friend of mine was killed by an airstrike. Here is where an olive farm was razed by illegal settlers. Here's where the farmer's son was shot for protesting."


Because, you know, Israelis can't point at a map of other places in the world and say "Here is where my family were murdered".....

Both sides as as bad as each other. Sit them down with a big plate of bacon sandwiches and they can see how ridiculous it is to be fighting over pieces of the ground because their imaginary friends tell them they have a divine mandate to live there
 
2012-11-13 08:24:38 AM  

Moonlightfox: jvl: Moonlightfox: I think you mean Palestine's Haifa Bay.

Well, it will be if the Palestinian's ever finalize a peace treaty with Israel. In the meantime, it belongs to Israel to do with as they see fit. Just one more reason for the Palestinian's to make peace.

Not going to happen while there's still Palestinians alive who can point at a map and say; "here is where my family lived before the invasion. Here is where a friend of mine was killed by an airstrike. Here is where an olive farm was razed by illegal settlers. Here's where the farmer's son was shot for protesting."


The Germans and Japanese made peace after WWII.

What you are saying, is Palis won't make peace because they are too stupid.

That's OK. They won't last long once the greater middle east erupts into war. "Bang bang bang boom boom" (dust settles) "Hey, wasn't there a bunch of uppity Jordanians here?" Isreal; "Who? What are you talking about? We've always been here."

The Palis are doomed. The ones that want to live should leave.
 
2012-11-13 10:11:24 AM  

Smidge204: Flab: Drill for it = bad. I have no problem with that, but installing a cone, like they did on the Deepwater Horizon well should have no repercution on the seabed.

...Because Deepwater Horizon had no impact on the seafloor?

=Smidge=


Reading comprehension os not your forte, is it?
 
2012-11-13 01:59:39 PM  
I know, NUKE IT! Problem solved.

/Nukes make everything better.
 
2012-11-13 07:36:55 PM  

Flab: Reading comprehension os not your forte, is it?


Your comment implied that if they sued a cone to collect the gas, then the seabed would not be harmed. I'm basing this on the part where you said "but installing a cone [...] should have no repercution(sic) on the seabed."

If I need to get my sarcasm meter re-calibrated that's fine. Methane dissolves in water and causes oxygen depletion. Just putting a cone in to collect the bubbles will do absolutely nothing to prevent the ocean life in that region from dying out.
=Smidge=
 
2012-11-13 08:40:02 PM  

Bontesla: Calls to drill it in 5... 4... 3...


Drill it. it's on the other side of the planet.
 
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