gregory311: The One True TheDavid: You think it's a good idea for women to be treated like that? You even think they should volunteer for it? Damn. If you're a woman (which I assume you are) you must be desperate; if you're a man (which can happen) you must really hate women.Have you even read the farking book? It's pretty tame.
Tat'dGreaser: Good for her, instead of just cheating on him because he sucked in bed she gave him a chance and he failed so she's leaving.
KatjaMouse: The One True TheDavid:Ugly fat chicks with no self respect will let you do all kinds of mean shiat to them just to get any attention at all. They'll even encourage it if you don't make them pay every time you order pizza. You learn this before you're 18 if you ever peek out from under Mom's skirt. I'd rather read Wikipedia than put up with such women, and I'll bet so would her husband.[Not-Sure-If-Serious.jpg]
Kit Fister: how are You/you doing? ;-)
MDGeist: Wow, never knew the 50 Shades author was so nasty looking.
ISubmittedThisYesterdayWithAMuchFunnierHeadline: Say what you want, but those books turned my wife from "Let's leave the lights off" into a goddamn sexual tyranosaur superfreak. I mean holy shiat.
The One True TheDavid: KatjaMouse:Say what you will about that book (and boy do I have a lot of not so pleasant things to say about it) at least it was a mainstream excuse/permission slip for women to go out and explore things outside of their typical comfort zone in the bedroom.You think it's a good idea for women to be treated like that? You even think they should volunteer for it? Damn. If you're a woman (which I assume you are) you must be desperate; if you're a man (which can happen) you must really hate women.
Timmy the Tumor: He should counter-sue because she wouldn't recreate what he read in a stack of cookbooks.
Mega Steve: fozziewazzi: I would love to have read a story from a male perspective..."Your honor, I tried to re-ignite my sex life with my wife, but when I asked her to join me in recreating a scene from "Straight to the Ass Vol. 4", she refused. I believe this is unreasonable behavior and grounds for a divorce".How do you think that would have gone over?He would have been crucified by the media. Anyone who watches porn is a dirty pervert and deserves to be institutionalized.
WeenerGord: jfivealive: You're just begging to get spanked!Oh, some people in this thread are begging for that, but not me. It's Katyamouse, Squiggy, Odd Ball and a few other freaks in this thread that you should be exchanging phone numbers with, nttawwt, Well, there is, but apparantly that's just my opinion, and I'm a big bad troll for suggesting that abuse is bad, mmkay.
The One True TheDavid: Headso:If some chick likes to get spanked why does it have to mean something outside of just her liking to get spanked."Why does she like to get spanked?" is the question. The next one is "What can be done to raise her self-esteem?"
Smackledorfer: KatjaMouse: Does everyone in this room like getting oral sex?Probably.
Headso: I'm personally not into bondage or any of that stuff but it's just a fetish like any other odd thing people might be into that gets them off. Does some guy jerking off to feet mean something beyond him jerking off to feet? If some chick likes to get spanked why does it have to mean something outside of just her liking to get spanked.
The One True TheDavid: SquiggsIN:BDSM isn't for every one but, for some people it is an extremely rewarding outlet for meeting their needs.Not every so-called need should be met. And if that's the only way you have of finding sexual fulfillment that's truly pathetic.Imagine this: "Child molestation isn't for every one but, for some people it is an extremely rewarding outlet for meeting their needs."Wouldn't you be revolted by that statement? (Please oh please say yes.)Of course it could be said that some abused & molested children find pleasure & happiness in relationships with pedophiles, that it's really much nicer & more liberating than we'd imagine, and that people who've never tried it shouldn't judge.Oh, wait, it is said, not only by pedophiles but by kids who put it as "But Uncle Ernie loves me! He took me to Disney World!"Many children who've been abused and/or molested grow up to think such behavior is normal and even sexy, and many children who didn't even get that kind of attention envy the ones who got Uncle Ernie's "love."This phenomenon is not a good thing, in spite of what "the Media" tells you to control your thinking and behavior and get rich at your expense.
The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Some people care way too much about what other folks do in their spare time.
KatjaMouse: And while there are a couple of intriguing ideas in there I'd like to take to the bedroom this book betrays the author as being someone who has no clue as to how most BDSM relationships work and is an exercise in her own fantasies. The normal/healthy ones at least.
The One True TheDavid: KatjaMouse: The One True TheDavid:Ugly fat chicks with no self respect will let you do all kinds of mean shiat to them just to get any attention at all. They'll even encourage it if you don't make them pay every time you order pizza. You learn this before you're 18 if you ever peek out from under Mom's skirt. I'd rather read Wikipedia than put up with such women, and I'll bet so would her husband.[Not-Sure-If-Serious.jpg]I'm very very serious. Why bother with a woman with no self-respect? If she's no good for herself what good can she do me?In real life I avoid people who inspire me even to talk mean to them like I do here on Fark, and on Fark dimwits are encouraged to Ignore me.I might have anger problems and a bad attitude but if I want a punching bag there's always the Y.What kind of society do we have if such behavior is regarded as sexy by its victims? Susan Brownmiller might overstate the case in places but I can't say she's mistaken; indeed maybe she turned out to be a pollyanna optimist. Maybe in a few years I'll think the same of Andrea Dworkin.Come ON, people. If I can raise my consciousness anybody can. Or do you want a society where "I only did what women really want; look at the books they read!" will get a torturing rapist acquitted? Free advice: lose a little weight and choose less horrific "entertainments." Don't make a virtue of settling for what's easiest to get from men who can't get better. Oh and by the way, a man who thinks he needs to tie up and whip his partner to get an erection should try Viagra or Cialis instead. If that doesn't work he should pay for prettier "escorts" or, better yet, give it up entirely. That's how evolution works in normal species: limpdick genes don't get passed on. Suck it up; it's for the best.
TheotherMIguy: ...And on and on and on.
Oznog: Is it just that once you've reached a critical mass of press attention, you're "good" no matter what the actual product is? Well no shocker there. I'm just wondering if there's any real "win" hidden in the writing itself, or if it's JUST press. I only skimmed a copy and was just "WTF???" all the way through.
KatjaMouse: Right... because all guys into bondage and flogging are abusive asses. All of them. No exception.
fozziewazzi: Can't judge this man without pics of the missus.
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