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(Forbes)   This is patent troll, ladies and gentlemen. And yes, he's from Texas   (forbes.com) divider line 53
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2012-11-12 10:41:56 AM
What a horrible piece of shiat
 
2012-11-12 10:52:48 AM
So who holds the patent for metabolizing food into energy? We're all going to owe him a lot of royalties.
 
2012-11-12 11:30:37 AM
So uh..can I post in this thread or am I violating a patent?
 
2012-11-12 11:36:06 AM

Adjective Bird Whiskey: So uh..can I post in this thread or am I violating a patent?


.ma I tub ,oN
 
2012-11-12 11:39:24 AM
Some people really just need to be drowned in a bathtub.
 
2012-11-12 11:52:20 AM

Elandriel: Some people really just need to be drowned in a bathtub.


People on ./ want to lynch him, I shiat you not.
 
2012-11-12 11:53:23 AM
This must be one of those Real American Job Creators from Texas I hear so much about.
 
2012-11-12 11:54:36 AM
What's Texas got to do with anything? Most patent trolls are from Silicon Valley.
 
2012-11-12 11:58:45 AM
That man looks like he is suffering from a UFIA.

I mean, look at this mug.

blogs-images.forbes.com

/and may he suffer a thousand more
 
2012-11-12 11:59:38 AM
Any actual lawyers want to weigh in on this? My "knowledge" on the topic is pretty much just what I've pieced together from these threads... I thought the patent owner had to actually make use of the patent to be able to defend it. Is that not the case? Aren't there any protections in place to prevent abuse of the system like this?
 
2012-11-12 12:04:45 PM

digistil: People on ./ want to lynch him, I shiat you not.


dot slash? Is that some new underground version of the older website? :)

This guy actually makes Intellectual Ventures seem like a decent company.
 
2012-11-12 12:09:55 PM
I'm just saddened by all the companies that give into this guy. If I were some successful industrialist, I'd sate my evil urges by keeping some attack dog lawyers around for when then the patent trolls showed up. Plus a little fund of "fark you" money to do things like buy up all the property around the troll's house, bribe the local government to get a fracking permit and leave the troll with tap water that is octane enough to run his lawn mower on.
 
2012-11-12 12:11:23 PM

Honest Bender: Any actual lawyers want to weigh in on this? My "knowledge" on the topic is pretty much just what I've pieced together from these threads... I thought the patent owner had to actually make use of the patent to be able to defend it. Is that not the case? Aren't there any protections in place to prevent abuse of the system like this?


No, if you have a patent you can stop anyone else using it even if you don't.

The real problem here is the USPO granting patents that should not have been granted, where others already have patents and where prior art exists. So you could have a genuine patent, granted in 2000, but be sued by someone who patented the same tech in 2005.

The USG needs to start cancelling patents, in effect make everyone suing for patent infringement prove from scratch that their patent should be valid before they move on to look at whether it is being infringed.
 
2012-11-12 12:12:28 PM
He's like the chubby spawn of Jimmy Fallon and Al Gore.
 
2012-11-12 12:15:22 PM

ha-ha-guy: I'm just saddened by all the companies that give into this guy. If I were some successful industrialist, I'd sate my evil urges by keeping some attack dog lawyers around for when then the patent trolls showed up. Plus a little fund of "fark you" money to do things like buy up all the property around the troll's house, bribe the local government to get a fracking permit and leave the troll with tap water that is octane enough to run his lawn mower on.


This. Just as with any frivolous lawsuit spending $1million to fight and win a case that you could have settled for $100k will save you money in the long term, because if you do settle for $100k then next week there will be another case, and then another and another...
Spend the $1million to fight it and the scumbag lawyers who launch these claims will very quickly learn it's not worth targeting you. They're no different from crack addicts looking for a house to break into. Which one to pick? The ones with open windows or the one with an alarm system and guard dogs?
 
2012-11-12 12:16:29 PM
How about jack sh*t and go f*ck yourself?!
 
2012-11-12 12:18:42 PM

Flint Ironstag: ha-ha-guy: I'm just saddened by all the companies that give into this guy. If I were some successful industrialist, I'd sate my evil urges by keeping some attack dog lawyers around for when then the patent trolls showed up. Plus a little fund of "fark you" money to do things like buy up all the property around the troll's house, bribe the local government to get a fracking permit and leave the troll with tap water that is octane enough to run his lawn mower on.

This. Just as with any frivolous lawsuit spending $1million to fight and win a case that you could have settled for $100k will save you money in the long term, because if you do settle for $100k then next week there will be another case, and then another and another...
Spend the $1million to fight it and the scumbag lawyers who launch these claims will very quickly learn it's not worth targeting you. They're no different from crack addicts looking for a house to break into. Which one to pick? The ones with open windows or the one with an alarm system and guard dogs?


Just to add that the situation is perpetuated by the insurance companies who insure you against lawsuits. They don't want these frivolous cases to go away, because they won't be able to charge huge premiums to companies. They need all these settlements to frighten companies into taking out their insurance!
 
2012-11-12 12:21:37 PM
Thaetetus????
 
2012-11-12 12:23:14 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Thaetetus????


I massplat "Theaetetus".
 
2012-11-12 12:25:23 PM
Makes me think about how much being rich is worth. Is having 20mil in the bank worth having a life dedicated to nothing but misery and lies? To have thousands of people hate your guts and wish you a horrible, ass-cancer filled death? And when you do die to have people literally dance on your grave and take shiats on the headstone, and have parents bring their children by and say, "See that guy Timmy? He was an evil man and the world is a better place without him." ?

I guess it is worth it to some people. Not to me though.
 
2012-11-12 12:27:54 PM
So syn/ack which was used in the 60's and 70's is the same thing, just different names, and predates his 'patent' doesn't invalidate his claims?
 
2012-11-12 12:43:43 PM
Yep, that's a patent troll alright. Pretty big one too. So, anybody gonna do anything about it?
 
2012-11-12 12:48:25 PM

BigLuca: Is having 20mil in the bank worth having a life dedicated to nothing but misery and lies?


I, uh.... Hmmm.... Ya. Yes. For me at least, yes it is.
 
2012-11-12 12:49:20 PM

BigLuca: Makes me think about how much being rich is worth. Is having 20mil in the bank worth having a life dedicated to nothing but misery and lies? To have thousands of people hate your guts and wish you a horrible, ass-cancer filled death? And when you do die to have people literally dance on your grave and take shiats on the headstone, and have parents bring their children by and say, "See that guy Timmy? He was an evil man and the world is a better place without him." ?

I guess it is worth it to some people. Not to me though.


Thing is, it's probably pretty easy for him to hide from the people who hate his guts. May well be that most of his family and friends don't realize what he does spends all his lawyering time on. Then again, people who are asshats in business dealings have a tendency to be just as contemptible in real life.
 
2012-11-12 12:59:26 PM
He has an extremely punchable face
 
2012-11-12 01:05:51 PM
There's got to be some kind of law out there to prevent people from suing others indiscriminately for no real valid reason. It's obvious abuse of the system and waste of court-time.
 
2012-11-12 01:06:26 PM

bullsballs: So syn/ack which was used in the 60's and 70's is the same thing, just different names, and predates his 'patent' doesn't invalidate his claims?


That there, that's the problem.
 
2012-11-12 01:10:22 PM

Flint Ironstag: ha-ha-guy: I'm just saddened by all the companies that give into this guy. If I were some successful industrialist, I'd sate my evil urges by keeping some attack dog lawyers around for when then the patent trolls showed up. Plus a little fund of "fark you" money to do things like buy up all the property around the troll's house, bribe the local government to get a fracking permit and leave the troll with tap water that is octane enough to run his lawn mower on.

This. Just as with any frivolous lawsuit spending $1million to fight and win a case that you could have settled for $100k will save you money in the long term, because if you do settle for $100k then next week there will be another case, and then another and another...
Spend the $1million to fight it and the scumbag lawyers who launch these claims will very quickly learn it's not worth targeting you. They're no different from crack addicts looking for a house to break into. Which one to pick? The ones with open windows or the one with an alarm system and guard dogs?


This sounds like a prisoners dilemma. One successful defense against a patent can potentially prevent the same lawsuit from being brought up against other companies. So all these tech companies working together to fight these patent trolls can likely cost each company less than settling all the patent suits. But if you fight and nobody else does, that's a huge cost. So they just settle for the no risk cost.
 
2012-11-12 01:17:53 PM
 
2012-11-12 01:19:11 PM

Flint Ironstag: The real problem here is the USPO granting patents that should not have been granted, where others already have patents and where prior art exists.


Exactly. But the real problem HERE, meaning fark is the d-bag who will defend the system beyond all reason. Slothful induction fallacy to the max.

Meanwhile an attorney for a large company I'm working on an invention with doesn't want to file because he doesn't understand the difference between electrons and lasers. No I'm not kidding.
 
2012-11-12 01:21:33 PM

larkmaj: Flint Ironstag: ha-ha-guy: I'm just saddened by all the companies that give into this guy. If I were some successful industrialist, I'd sate my evil urges by keeping some attack dog lawyers around for when then the patent trolls showed up. Plus a little fund of "fark you" money to do things like buy up all the property around the troll's house, bribe the local government to get a fracking permit and leave the troll with tap water that is octane enough to run his lawn mower on.

This. Just as with any frivolous lawsuit spending $1million to fight and win a case that you could have settled for $100k will save you money in the long term, because if you do settle for $100k then next week there will be another case, and then another and another...
Spend the $1million to fight it and the scumbag lawyers who launch these claims will very quickly learn it's not worth targeting you. They're no different from crack addicts looking for a house to break into. Which one to pick? The ones with open windows or the one with an alarm system and guard dogs?

This sounds like a prisoners dilemma. One successful defense against a patent can potentially prevent the same lawsuit from being brought up against other companies. So all these tech companies working together to fight these patent trolls can likely cost each company less than settling all the patent suits. But if you fight and nobody else does, that's a huge cost. So they just settle for the no risk cost.


A lot of tech companies profit from patent trolling, too. They probably don't want to create a lot of legal precedents that suggest they can't sue other companies for patents.
 
2012-11-12 01:22:56 PM
So. I'm still waiting for that proof that this system does more good than ill.

Patent lawyers? Wanna chime in?
 
2012-11-12 01:34:21 PM

TheBlackrose: That man looks like he is suffering from a UFIA.

I mean, look at this mug.

[blogs-images.forbes.com image 230x288]

/and may he suffer a thousand more


i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-11-12 01:40:34 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: What's Texas got to do with anything? Most patent trolls are from Silicon Valley.


Because this is FARK.
 
2012-11-12 01:40:56 PM
At what point does it become more cost effective to just take these guys out?
 
2012-11-12 01:50:16 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: What's Texas got to do with anything? Most patent trolls are from Silicon Valley.


The court is East Texas is friendly to patent trolls. It's convenient for this guy to live close to the court he'll get to hear his cases.
 
2012-11-12 01:53:42 PM
Quoting Shakespeare, Henry VI (Part 2), 'The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers'.
 
2012-11-12 01:57:48 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: What's Texas got to do with anything? Most patent trolls are from Silicon Valley.


NotSureIfSerious.jpg
 
2012-11-12 02:11:14 PM

digistil: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: What's Texas got to do with anything? Most patent trolls are from Silicon Valley.

NotSureIfSerious.jpg


Was serious...forgot what jonny_q kindly pointed out.
 
2012-11-12 03:00:50 PM

GAT_00: This must be one of those Real American Job Creators from Texas I hear so much about.


No he's a lawyer. Next he's probably going to run for public office.
 
2012-11-12 05:02:07 PM

nekom: Adjective Bird Whiskey: So uh..can I post in this thread or am I violating a patent?

.ma I tub ,oN


How'd you do the backwards backwards b?
 
2012-11-12 05:29:32 PM
This guy is my brother's boss. I haven't met him, but since he is a patent troll, I will be sure to give my brother a punch in the guy for every person in the IT industry. Hope that balances out.
 
2012-11-12 07:16:58 PM
Shame on Dell, Apple, Amazon, and Exxon for settling with this patent troll. They have the pockets to defeat this scumbag for the good of the world.
 
2012-11-12 08:44:52 PM
B-b-but I've been assured by patent lawyers on Fark that patent trolls don't actually exist, and the term is just something cooked up by mean penny-pinching companies trying to slander the heroic innovators whose work they are stealing! 

If you can't trust the lawyers who profit off of a broken system, who can you trust?
 
2012-11-12 10:03:31 PM

Gunther: B-b-but I've been assured by patent lawyers on Fark that patent trolls don't actually exist, and the term is just something cooked up by mean penny-pinching companies trying to slander the heroic innovators whose work they are stealing! 

If you can't trust the lawyers who profit off of a broken system, who can you trust?


Every word out of their mouth sounds like a recent slashdot quote.

"Henhouse safe" says Fox.
 
2012-11-13 12:23:01 AM
This guy ...

blogs-images.forbes.com

Looks like a Dino:

blogs.laweekly.com

Related?
 
2012-11-13 01:53:10 AM
If businessmen were really as ruthless and evil as portrayed in fiction and much of the news media, they'd have just hired a hitman to take this guy out instead of paying him to go away.
 
2012-11-13 05:30:16 AM
So very sick of this patent / copyright abuse BS ...
 
2012-11-13 06:07:49 AM

jjorsett: If businessmen were really as ruthless and evil as portrayed in fiction and much of the news media, they'd have just hired a hitman to take this guy out instead of paying him to go away.


Is there a lot of evil small businessmen in fiction? I thought it wass mostly large companies that get portrayed accurately badly. Or are you just trying to politicize random threads now?
 
2012-11-13 06:11:32 AM

Gunther: Is there a lot of evil small businessmen in fiction?


Ahh dammit, I was confusing this thread with this one, obviously this guy isn't targeting small businesses. 

mea culpa.
 
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