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(Gizmodo)   RIM to unveil new Blackberry 10 on January 30th. All three remaining users ecstatic   (gizmodo.com) divider line 80
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2012-11-12 10:35:07 AM  
Well here's a product that will not have a positive ROI.
 
2012-11-12 10:37:53 AM  
Subby: Quit exaggerating.

There's no WAY that RIM has as many as three users left.
 
2012-11-12 10:39:30 AM  
I like buttons.
 
2012-11-12 10:41:12 AM  
Rimshot!
 
2012-11-12 10:43:49 AM  
One of the guys at a satellite site recently upgraded his old Blackberry... to a new freaking Blackberry. I asked him: Why?!?!?!?! He told me he's just so used to the way it works, and I had to explain to him: For my department, these things are a nightmare, and they are not supported. So, best effort is the best we'll do. We got his email working, but his calendar won't sync.

On of the secretaries asked why Blackberry's are back, and I told her it's akin to using a freaking Tandy computer. She then asked: What's a Tandy?
 
2012-11-12 10:45:11 AM  
The new software is pretty much make-or-break for RIM...

Haven't we heard the same thing about the last 4 or 5 product/OS releases from RIM?
 
2012-11-12 10:46:36 AM  

gweilo8888: Subby: Quit exaggerating.

There's no WAY that RIM has as many as three users left.


I have a Blackberry Torch and Playbook. Do I count as one or two of the three users? 

/Haters gonna hate.
 
2012-11-12 10:47:10 AM  
Just switch to Android or Windows Phone and get it over with.
 
2012-11-12 10:47:13 AM  
FYI - The US government has mandated a monopoly for RIM. If you are a government employee, or a GovCon, then you are sporting a BB. That's about what, several million people? Not much, but enough to keep that company in business.
 
2012-11-12 10:47:43 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: One of the guys at a satellite site recently upgraded his old Blackberry... to a new freaking Blackberry. I asked him: Why?!?!?!?! He told me he's just so used to the way it works, and I had to explain to him: For my department, these things are a nightmare, and they are not supported. So, best effort is the best we'll do. We got his email working, but his calendar won't sync.

On of the secretaries asked why Blackberry's are back, and I told her it's akin to using a freaking Tandy computer. She then asked: What's a Tandy?


Oh I see so your software is having issues with the public worlds most secure mobile business tool... wow you don't say.... Im not really seeing a blackberry issue here... more of an IT issue.
 
2012-11-12 10:48:38 AM  
SUB your only off by around 79,999,996 subscribers pretty close though I guess
 
2012-11-12 10:49:17 AM  
On the bright side if BB10 fails RIM will have to release BES support for Android and iPhone potentially killing Good Mobile and it's ilk

the built in enterprise tools in Android and iPhone are just not up to par. I mean iOS didn't support multiple signatures until v6! A feature winmo has had for years
 
2012-11-12 10:50:46 AM  
So if this succeeds does that mean RIM will be hiring and I can finally get that RIM job?

//Had to done, even if it was poorly.
 
2012-11-12 10:51:32 AM  
My wife loves her BB Bold Touch. If you only want a phone and email device it could be argued quite effectively that this is the best device for those two tasks.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-11-12 10:51:46 AM  
January 30, 2013: BB10 unveiled
January 30, 2014: BB10 available for purchase
 
2012-11-12 10:51:47 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: One of the guys at a satellite site recently upgraded his old Blackberry... to a new freaking Blackberry. I asked him: Why?!?!?!?! He told me he's just so used to the way it works, and I had to explain to him: For my department, these things are a nightmare, and they are not supported. So, best effort is the best we'll do. We got his email working, but his calendar won't sync.

On of the secretaries asked why Blackberry's are back, and I told her it's akin to using a freaking Tandy computer. She then asked: What's a Tandy?


I think there are still 2 blackberry users on our enterprise server here. I don't know why leadership doesn't just buy them a new iPhone or Android phone and then stop supporting blackberries in the corp. environment.
 
2012-11-12 10:53:37 AM  

zedster: On the bright side if BB10 fails RIM will have to release BES support for Android and iPhone potentially killing Good Mobile and it's ilk

the built in enterprise tools in Android and iPhone are just not up to par. I mean iOS didn't support multiple signatures until v6! A feature winmo has had for years


BIE?

/EIP
 
2012-11-12 10:54:04 AM  
 
2012-11-12 10:56:11 AM  

david_gaithersburg: FYI - The US government has mandated a monopoly for RIM. If you are a government employee, or a GovCon, then you are sporting a BB. That's about what, several million people? Not much, but enough to keep that company in business.


I know someone that works for a financial institution and they use the BB for the enterprise security features.
 
2012-11-12 10:58:30 AM  

no icon tact: And Brother has a new typewriter.


It appears they have a whole line of them. That's pretty incredible. Although I still get asked to fill out paper forms at work so that's not much different.
 
2012-11-12 11:00:50 AM  

KarmicDisaster: david_gaithersburg: FYI - The US government has mandated a monopoly for RIM. If you are a government employee, or a GovCon, then you are sporting a BB. That's about what, several million people? Not much, but enough to keep that company in business.

I know someone that works for a financial institution and they use the BB for the enterprise security features.


BB still has a following in the industrializing world, places Nokia is still relevant.

BES is the easiest way to get into compliance for SOX, FINRA, and HIPPA but there are 3rd party programs for Android and iPhone that can do that now. There are also government approved Android handsets for military grade encryption.
 
2012-11-12 11:00:51 AM  

david_gaithersburg: FYI - The US government has mandated a monopoly for RIM. If you are a government employee, or a GovCon, then you are sporting a BB. That's about what, several million people? Not much, but enough to keep that company in business.


This is definitely not the case any more. It varies by agency, but in many if you're eligible to have the Feds buy you a work phone you can get an iPhone just as easily as a BB. Some agencies (Immigration, for one) are going entirely to iPhone.
 
2012-11-12 11:01:47 AM  

david_gaithersburg: FYI - The US government has mandated a monopoly for RIM. If you are a government employee, or a GovCon, then you are sporting a BB. That's about what, several million people? Not much, but enough to keep that company in business.


This hasn't been true for several years now. You are officially wrong about everything.
 
2012-11-12 11:03:26 AM  
As a mobile device specialist, this is relevant to my...job?

We actually still have over 1,500 Blackberry devices. I work in Healthcare and we don't have the option to switch platforms quickly or easily, we're also legally required to implement a certain level of encryption. We're currently evaluating a 'post-Blackberry' solution, and I can't wait, the sooner we abandon this relic of a platform the better.

Had you told me that two-three years ago I'd be waiting with great anticipation to leave Blackberry, I wouldn't have believed you, but here we are.
 
2012-11-12 11:03:51 AM  
So I must be the third BB user. The company can save a lot of money and effort just from sending us word by Fark.

/Still best at handling email
//Yeah, some people use their phones to make a living
 
2012-11-12 11:04:47 AM  
I still have a Blackberry because I hate touch screen interfaces.
 
2012-11-12 11:05:52 AM  
Good for Applications is a HORRIBLE app in every regard, and BBerry is vastly superior in every regard. My company only uses Good on smartphones. I hate it with a passion. That said, I lost my blackberry and got a droid and never looked back.
 
2012-11-12 11:08:15 AM  

Stephen_Falken: I still have a Blackberry because I hate touch screen interfaces.


You are going to have a very sad future. Everything will be touch screen and voice activated going forward.
 
2012-11-12 11:08:46 AM  
keep your anti blackberry crap for

HST's Dead Carcass: One of the guys at a satellite site recently upgraded his old Blackberry... to a new freaking Blackberry. I asked him: Why?!?!?!?! He told me he's just so used to the way it works, and I had to explain to him: For my department, these things are a nightmare, and they are not supported. So, best effort is the best we'll do. We got his email working, but his calendar won't sync.

On of the secretaries asked why Blackberry's are back, and I told her it's akin to using a freaking Tandy computer. She then asked: What's a Tandy?


There's so much derp in that comment where to even start.....
 
2012-11-12 11:08:47 AM  

blackminded: david_gaithersburg: FYI - The US government has mandated a monopoly for RIM. If you are a government employee, or a GovCon, then you are sporting a BB. That's about what, several million people? Not much, but enough to keep that company in business.

This hasn't been true for several years now. You are officially wrong about everything.

.
Yeah, you TSA people get your new phones, but my FSO is still handing out BBs. I'll let her know that someone on the internets disagrees with her.
 
2012-11-12 11:11:55 AM  
So every IT admin in the world has traded in security for fun and a tool for a toy.

I don't think many of you are real IT admins.
 
2012-11-12 11:14:16 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Good for Applications is a HORRIBLE app in every regard, and BBerry is vastly superior in every regard. My company only uses Good on smartphones. I hate it with a passion. That said, I lost my blackberry and got a droid and never looked back.


Oh my, I HATE Good for Enterprise, with a passion. It's a legacy system squeezed onto modern smart phones. We used it for awhile, but once we upgraded to Exchange 2010, we can get the security we need from ActiveSync without the need for such a terrible and expensive solution.
 
2012-11-12 11:15:04 AM  
Can BB survive pigeon holing as a "business only" smart phone? That's pretty much what it's become.
 
2012-11-12 11:19:09 AM  

Red_Fox: So every IT admin in the world has traded in security for fun and a tool for a toy.

I don't think many of you are real IT admins.


No, the industry completely evolved around enterprise needs because the perception was that Blackberry was the Business solution for so long, no one else cared about it. By the time we realized we could be using these things for actual work, RIM was so far behind the rest of the mobile device space it wasn't even possible to catch up.
 
2012-11-12 11:22:43 AM  
my first thought after reading this headline, THERE ARENT 30 DAYS IN JANUARY@!!
 
2012-11-12 11:27:05 AM  

StochasticLife: As a mobile device specialist, this is relevant to my...job?

We actually still have over 1,500 Blackberry devices. I work in Healthcare and we don't have the option to switch platforms quickly or easily, we're also legally required to implement a certain level of encryption. We're currently evaluating a 'post-Blackberry' solution, and I can't wait, the sooner we abandon this relic of a platform the better.

Had you told me that two-three years ago I'd be waiting with great anticipation to leave Blackberry, I wouldn't have believed you, but here we are.


Yes BBOS is a relic. I think it is in excess of 10 years old. The new OS, BB10, is re-written and completely new. Not ONE line of old code has been used. The highest level of security available has been granted to the devices last week. The truth is your best 'post-BlackBerry' solution could well be another BlackBerry!
 
2012-11-12 11:28:32 AM  
This makes a lot of sense. The end of January is typically the start of the busiest shopping season of the year.
 
2012-11-12 11:34:13 AM  
Didnt RIM used to be some sort of phone company? ahh.... the olden days...
 
2012-11-12 11:43:37 AM  

KarmicDisaster: I know someone that works for a financial institution and they use the BB for the enterprise security features.


My employer has thousands of BBs in the field with higher reliability than I get from Outlook on their desktops. My 9900 suits me fine; great battery life, solid cell signal. good form factor. RIM as a company is a train wreck though, as most Playbook early adopters would attest. Their 'business class' tablet released without the ability to read text files and two years down the road still can't connect with native apps to CIFS/SMB shares or DLNA servers. Coming tomorrow I hear..... ...... ...... ........
 
2012-11-12 11:49:11 AM  
I've seen a prototype device & the OS is actually quite mind blowing.
It also let's you divide up the device into business & personal use. So if farcebook is webwashed by your company's IT security, not a biggy. You can whack it on your personal partition & keep pressing like buttons for no particular reason when you should be creating a dull-as-ditch-water power point presentation.
AFAIK the first devices will be touch screen only, but qwerty, azerty etc keyboards won't be far behind & for someone with sausage fingers like me that's good news.
There's a demos video here to give you an idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tzxQ2YUjk50#!

/no i don't work for RIM :o)
 
2012-11-12 11:49:40 AM  
farm3.staticflickr.com

biatch set you up, Subby.

Black Berry only goes to 9
 
2012-11-12 11:59:07 AM  

Stephen_Falken: I still have a Blackberry because I hate touch screen interfaces.


THIS. Also, I couldn't care less about apps. My phone is for email, texts, and calls. And it's fine for the rare instances in which I use Facebook from it.
 
2012-11-12 12:02:54 PM  
I live in Waterloo Ontario, the home of Research in Motion, so I am not getting a kick out of most of these replies.
 
2012-11-12 12:06:00 PM  

jayhawk88: The new software is pretty much make-or-break for RIM...

Haven't we heard the same thing about the last 4 or 5 product/OS releases from RIM?


No matter how amazing it is, it's too late. They were the early innovators but bigger players ate their lunch. They are dead men walking and I'm sure they are just praying to be bought. To me as a non-expert that seems unlikely. No other phone player needs RIM at this point. They all have their own solid product lines, and there's virtually no user base to buy.

This saddens me as a Canadian and an alum of Waterloo, but such is life.
 
2012-11-12 12:07:01 PM  

steve_s: I live in Waterloo Ontario, the home of Research in Motion, so I am not getting a kick out of most of these replies.


One of my wife's old friends and her husband moved to Waterloo because they were offered RIM jobs (tee hee). We haven't heard from them lately, but a few months ago they were beginning to think of a plan B. I hope RIM can rebrand and succeed again, but it's difficult to do so after Apple and Google have captured so much of the marketshare.
 
2012-11-12 12:07:09 PM  

Icetech3: Didnt RIM used to be some sort of phone company? ahh.... the olden days...


Actually, the first few generations didn't have a phone. Just email and calendar.

We have 3 people left on our BES server. The support for it would be several thousand dollars/year. We are just waiting for it to die and then get iPhones or Androids for those of us left.
 
2012-11-12 12:18:08 PM  
they need to double down and get this out in time for the Christmas rush... but no. They are going to debut their new stuff right when everyone has a spending hangover. i predict big things from this launch... big things indeed.
 
2012-11-12 12:18:22 PM  

steve_s: I live in Waterloo Ontario, the home of Research in Motion, so I am not getting a kick out of most of these replies.


It's because those of us south of the 49th parallel can't make jokes about the exchange rate of the Canadian Dollar any more, so we joke about the X remaining Blackberry users (where X < 10).

We still run BB at work (which essentially replaced our on-call pagers), through we do support BYOD and there is a strong probability that we will move to Android by mid-January. Our IT folks will be happy to dump the BES. I went with Android for my first personal smartphone (mostly because I wanted LTE). Took awhile to get used to the virtual keyboard, and I'm still faster with the BB real keyboard. Still get crossed-up on long-press difference (shift on Android, caps on BB).
 
2012-11-12 12:21:24 PM  

Pista: I've seen a prototype device & the OS is actually quite mind blowing.
It also let's you divide up the device into business & personal use. So if farcebook is webwashed by your company's IT security, not a biggy. You can whack it on your personal partition & keep pressing like buttons for no particular reason when you should be creating a dull-as-ditch-water power point presentation.
AFAIK the first devices will be touch screen only, but qwerty, azerty etc keyboards won't be far behind & for someone with sausage fingers like me that's good news.
There's a demos video here to give you an idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tzxQ2YUjk50#!

/no i don't work for RIM :o)


The work/personal data separation has been present since BES 5.0.3 and BB OS 6. It's called BlackBerry Balance, and it's a great tool, especially for companies who have a BYOD policy, since the admin can just remotely wipe the work partition if the employee leaves and leave the personal data untouched.

Also, someone else said that RIM should have a mobile management solution for iOS and Android, and that does exist. It is called BlackBerry Universal Device Service.

And as someone else mentioned above as well, RIM currently has 80 million active users across the world. I do not believe iPhone or Android phones actually have that many, though I was unable to find reliable estimates.

And yes, I work for RIM. And no, personal attacks are not gonna get you anywhere.
 
2012-11-12 12:22:40 PM  

Maul555: they need to double down and get this out in time for the Christmas rush... but no. They are going to debut their new stuff right when everyone has a spending hangover. i predict big things from this launch... big things indeed.


Two weeks till black friday
 
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