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(Fox News)   There's a new flood of misery affecting the still-recovering victims of Hurricane Sandy: Disaster tourists who drive by in their shiny SUVs to gawk out the window and snap pictures   (foxnews.com) divider line 16
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2012-11-12 09:22:19 AM
2 votes:
Start charging them $100.00 per disaster photo, and $50.00 per sight seeing tour and donate all the money to Sandy relief and reconstruction efforts.
2012-11-12 05:26:03 PM
1 votes:

sethen320:

I'm not trying to start shiat with you, but what exactly is the difference between merely looking at a disaster scene and taking a picture of it?


I thinkI understand what you mean, I'll try to explain the two situations (not trying to start shiat either, this is good discussion material). In our case, the gawkers were merely looking, and tying up/blocking traffic on the only route into the burn area. Many were also taking "souvenirs" which up until recently were parts of peoples houses/property.

In the case of the gawkers in NY/NJ etc, I'm sure a lot of the same things are going on: getting in the way of people with legitimate reasons to be there, becoming potential drains on resources (someone will get hurt, require an ambulance, etc) and in general be disrespectful to the residents that have lost so much.

As for my photo, I also see your point, if it were taken while under similar circumstances. Instead, it was taken months later, after the area had been already made less hazardous. There were restrictions to ge into the area, and it was taken during a brief break by myself after busting my ass on a crew installing 26 erosion control structures that day. It's really apples and oranges.
2012-11-12 05:19:50 PM
1 votes:

sethen320: Dinodork: mike_d85: Dinodork: We had hundreds of them after the Waldo Canyon Fire came through my neighborhood this past June. They should have been shot along with the looters.

Where's that?

Colorado Springs. Here's an example of what they were trying to see, the remains of the Flying W Ranch. I took this while working this August doing slope stabilization to keep the mountain from sliding down into my neighborhood.

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I'm not to fond of the gawkers.

I'm not trying to start shiat with you, but what exactly is the difference between merely looking at a disaster scene and taking a picture of it?


Ask a first responder.
2012-11-12 04:53:31 PM
1 votes:

Jument:
I certainly empathize. Wandering through the ruins of your home would be horrible. Being observed at that time would feel a bit rape-y. But I don't think yelling at people is really the answer.


He really should have taken the time to beckon them over and explain in a calm, even tone why he felt that what they were doing was... while not exactly wrong, somewhat rude, and then kindly ask them to leave and during that long drive home, engage in some introspection of their own upon the idea of compassion.

Or he could throw a farking wrench at the farking mouthbreathers and go about his day.
2012-11-12 12:54:53 PM
1 votes:

Jument: RedT: THIS was the most infuriating thing after my house got flooded. We live at the end of a dead end street with only two houses on it (the other house is my mother-in-law) so it was irrefutable that the drive-bys weren't just gawking.

Took til about day 3 before I just started flipping them off and screaming things like "Come on in! You wanna see all my ruined shiat!?!".

Seriously, I was in no friggin' mood, but that did actually seem to solve the problem.

How would that solve the problem? Most gawkers are going to gawk once and unless there's some kind of word-of-mouth gawker network I'm unaware of...

People want to see unusual shiat. Such is life. Next time ask them for donations or something. I certainly understand how you would be in a negative mood, but being so actively hostile seems a little uncool.


Pardon me for being "uncool" but I was sorting through everything I owned trying to determine what could be saved and what (the great majority of it) needed to be tossed.

As "uncool" and "negative" as I might have been perceived by the helpful curiosity seekers who wanted to memorialized the ruins of everything I worked for, once I expressed my sentiments they sure left in a hurry and that made me feel better and less negative.
2012-11-12 12:20:11 PM
1 votes:
As someone from NJ affected by HS (don't live by the shore, but we had days of no power, trees blocking roads out blah blah blah), I think I would be pretty annoyed with jerkwads rolling by just snapping photos (didn't seem to have that ish, luckily). You took the time to come out here? How about pitching in a little and help us get that farking tree off Ethel's porch, because she's 85 and can barely get around her own house. Maybe bring some gatorades or sammiches? No?

Then GTFO of the farking way so we can do it ourselves.

/Jersey represent.
//Get off our lawns.
/// ;)
2012-11-12 12:05:20 PM
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: You'd think this would be good, in that the majority of the tourists would walk away with more appreciation for the strength of natural disasters. In other words if they are ever told to evacuation to avoid something, they will (reducing the number of morons rescue workers have to go save). They'll also understand the need to proper insurance policies and hopefully an appreciation for the role FEMA can play.


The only flaw in your logic is that it contains logic.

Those folks who drive by in their SUV's are the same folks that will be talking to the reporter in the hip-waders when the next storm passes through their neighborhood
2012-11-12 12:01:14 PM
1 votes:

Cythraul: Start charging them $100.00 per disaster photo, and $50.00 per sight seeing tour and donate all the money to Sandy relief and reconstruction efforts.


And... who is going to do the charging, again?
2012-11-12 11:58:26 AM
1 votes:

jaylectricity: "The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.


Yeah, because being angry at people treating your personal disaster as a sideshow is not all invasive. How about the next time you have a loved one in the ICU, you invite all of us to sit there with popcorn and watch you deal with personal hardship.
2012-11-12 11:57:56 AM
1 votes:

TXEric: Diogenes: jaylectricity: "The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.

I, on the other hand, would probably put on a little show for them.

I would as well.
If, by "a little show", you mean letting them have the experience of staring down the muzzle of an AR-15 as I clicked the bolt release shut...


Lookout, we got a badass up in here.
2012-11-12 11:53:09 AM
1 votes:
If one was going to drive down there for any other reason than to help, I would call them a ghoul. If you want to pack up a few cars, help out for a day or two, similar to a Habitat for Humanity kind of thing, then yeah, go help and take a few pictures while you are down there. There are so many pictures out there as it is, why go there yourself?

But to drive through, take pictures and go home? You suck.
2012-11-12 11:28:06 AM
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Sell useless crap. Tourists love to buy useless crap.


That actually would be a good idea for the SUV crowd. But the tour buses will come, and they don't stop off to visit.

jaylectricity: "The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.


I know how that sounds, but she's right. You can't really know the feeling until you've spent the day staggering around the remains of everything you've ever owned, trying to decide what to keep and what to pile in the mound at the curb, as tourists drive by and snap pictures of your lowest moment in life. It's like being fed on by ghouls.
2012-11-12 11:06:11 AM
1 votes:
"The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.
2012-11-12 10:58:00 AM
1 votes:

gilgigamesh: Uh, capitalism doesn't work that way. Tour companies trundle those damn buses through the ninth ward, keep every cent, and there is not a damn thing the residents can do about it.


Come on now. They hire locals to drive and maintain those buses. They also have to fuel the bus and feed the passengers.

gilgigamesh: How are homeowners supposed to enforce a fee for someone driving by with a bus full of tourists snapping pictures of the wreckage that was their house?


Sell useless crap. Tourists love to buy useless crap.
2012-11-12 10:44:51 AM
1 votes:

Solty Dog: I remember after hurricane Ivan, the police blocked off my neighborhood to prevent gawkers. They still weren't able to keep them out.


I'd think the bigger concern would be looters.
2012-11-12 10:33:54 AM
1 votes:
Wait, I thought you wanted all of that attention.
 
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