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2012-11-12 09:22:19 AM
Start charging them $100.00 per disaster photo, and $50.00 per sight seeing tour and donate all the money to Sandy relief and reconstruction efforts.
 
2012-11-12 09:33:58 AM
My grandmother just got her power back on Saturday, and she doesn't live anywhere near the shore (lots of trees where she is, though).
 
2012-11-12 10:19:40 AM
Not that I believe in Karma, but I wonder how many of these Long Islanders took part in one of the disaster junkets to New Orleans' Ninth Ward that are still to this day driving those folks nuts.
 
2012-11-12 10:23:17 AM

Cythraul: Start charging them $100.00 per disaster photo, and $50.00 per sight seeing tour and donate all the money to Sandy relief and reconstruction efforts.


Uh, capitalism doesn't work that way. Tour companies trundle those damn buses through the ninth ward, keep every cent, and there is not a damn thing the residents can do about it.

How are homeowners supposed to enforce a fee for someone driving by with a bus full of tourists snapping pictures of the wreckage that was their house?
 
2012-11-12 10:26:48 AM

gilgigamesh: Cythraul: Start charging them $100.00 per disaster photo, and $50.00 per sight seeing tour and donate all the money to Sandy relief and reconstruction efforts.

Uh, capitalism doesn't work that way. Tour companies trundle those damn buses through the ninth ward, keep every cent, and there is not a damn thing the residents can do about it.

How are homeowners supposed to enforce a fee for someone driving by with a bus full of tourists snapping pictures of the wreckage that was their house?


Wait - people spend money to go and look at areas where people's houses were destroyed and they lost everything? That is a real thing?

I wasn't planning on losing extra faith in humanity today, but I just have.
 
2012-11-12 10:31:50 AM
Keep your windows rolled up, and don't feed them
 
2012-11-12 10:32:27 AM

serpent_sky: I wasn't planning on losing extra faith in humanity today, but I just have.


I'm not sure why you're surprised by this. It's just a more sophisticated form of rubber-necking. The world, and especially this country, is filled with grief junkies.
 
2012-11-12 10:33:54 AM
Wait, I thought you wanted all of that attention.
 
2012-11-12 10:35:06 AM

serpent_sky: Wait - people spend money to go and look at areas where people's houses were destroyed and they lost everything? That is a real thing?


This is still an active controversy in the 9th ward. 7 years after Katrina.
 
2012-11-12 10:41:23 AM
I remember after hurricane Ivan, the police blocked off my neighborhood to prevent gawkers. They still weren't able to keep them out.
 
2012-11-12 10:44:51 AM

Solty Dog: I remember after hurricane Ivan, the police blocked off my neighborhood to prevent gawkers. They still weren't able to keep them out.


I'd think the bigger concern would be looters.
 
2012-11-12 10:58:00 AM

gilgigamesh: Uh, capitalism doesn't work that way. Tour companies trundle those damn buses through the ninth ward, keep every cent, and there is not a damn thing the residents can do about it.


Come on now. They hire locals to drive and maintain those buses. They also have to fuel the bus and feed the passengers.

gilgigamesh: How are homeowners supposed to enforce a fee for someone driving by with a bus full of tourists snapping pictures of the wreckage that was their house?


Sell useless crap. Tourists love to buy useless crap.
 
2012-11-12 11:06:11 AM
"The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.
 
2012-11-12 11:28:01 AM

jaylectricity: "The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.


I, on the other hand, would probably put on a little show for them.
 
2012-11-12 11:28:06 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Sell useless crap. Tourists love to buy useless crap.


That actually would be a good idea for the SUV crowd. But the tour buses will come, and they don't stop off to visit.

jaylectricity: "The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.


I know how that sounds, but she's right. You can't really know the feeling until you've spent the day staggering around the remains of everything you've ever owned, trying to decide what to keep and what to pile in the mound at the curb, as tourists drive by and snap pictures of your lowest moment in life. It's like being fed on by ghouls.
 
2012-11-12 11:39:53 AM
Vintage Season
 
2012-11-12 11:49:02 AM
The worst part of doing this is the sand fleas. As long as you stay in your car, it's usually okay, but if you open the door those fleas jump right in and then you have a hell of a time trying to kill every last one of them.

You try to take pictures when these little buggers are jumping all over your leg. It's annoying, to say the least.
 
2012-11-12 11:50:18 AM
Jeeez. biatchbiatchbiatch...

I'll tow a Prius behind me next time if that'll make them feel better.
 
2012-11-12 11:51:03 AM
Hm, I did this all the time when I lived in Detroit, except the neighborhoods had been abandoned (in some cases) decades ago. There's a word for it -- 'Ruin Porn'. Still I always respected the hell out of the some of the residents who loved their homes enough that they refused to leave. They probably hated me though.
 
2012-11-12 11:51:46 AM

Diogenes: jaylectricity: "The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.

I, on the other hand, would probably put on a little show for them.


I would as well.
If, by "a little show", you mean letting them have the experience of staring down the muzzle of an AR-15 as I clicked the bolt release shut...
 
2012-11-12 11:53:07 AM
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//Has a fackin' bus too-ah scheduled later this week
 
2012-11-12 11:53:09 AM
If one was going to drive down there for any other reason than to help, I would call them a ghoul. If you want to pack up a few cars, help out for a day or two, similar to a Habitat for Humanity kind of thing, then yeah, go help and take a few pictures while you are down there. There are so many pictures out there as it is, why go there yourself?

But to drive through, take pictures and go home? You suck.
 
2012-11-12 11:53:16 AM

gilgigamesh: Cythraul: Start charging them $100.00 per disaster photo, and $50.00 per sight seeing tour and donate all the money to Sandy relief and reconstruction efforts.

Uh, capitalism doesn't work that way. Tour companies trundle those damn buses through the ninth ward, keep every cent, and there is not a damn thing the residents can do about it.

How are homeowners supposed to enforce a fee for someone driving by with a bus full of tourists snapping pictures of the wreckage that was their house?


Easily, if you're following your "Robin of Locksley's Handy Guide to Sherwood Forest".

1) Gather your fellow "victims" into a merry band.

2) Set up roadblocks

3) Charge tourists and nonresidence an "access fee". Have your merry band threaten anyone who refuses to pay.

4) Profit!
 
2012-11-12 11:55:00 AM

AgentBang: If one was going to drive down there for any other reason than to help, I would call them a ghoul. If you want to pack up a few cars, help out for a day or two, similar to a Habitat for Humanity kind of thing, then yeah, go help and take a few pictures while you are down there. There are so many pictures out there as it is, why go there yourself?

But to drive through, take pictures and go home? You suck.


LOL. Why go to Paris and see the Eiffel Tower? Why go to the Grand Canyon?

Because experiencing things firsthand is something humans like to do.
 
2012-11-12 11:55:18 AM
You'd think this would be good, in that the majority of the tourists would walk away with more appreciation for the strength of natural disasters. In other words if they are ever told to evacuation to avoid something, they will (reducing the number of morons rescue workers have to go save). They'll also understand the need to proper insurance policies and hopefully an appreciation for the role FEMA can play.
 
2012-11-12 11:57:56 AM

TXEric: Diogenes: jaylectricity: "The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.

I, on the other hand, would probably put on a little show for them.

I would as well.
If, by "a little show", you mean letting them have the experience of staring down the muzzle of an AR-15 as I clicked the bolt release shut...


Lookout, we got a badass up in here.
 
2012-11-12 11:58:26 AM

jaylectricity: "The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.


Yeah, because being angry at people treating your personal disaster as a sideshow is not all invasive. How about the next time you have a loved one in the ICU, you invite all of us to sit there with popcorn and watch you deal with personal hardship.
 
2012-11-12 11:58:32 AM
BTW - where are Sean Penn and Obama's disaster celebrities in this? The Northeast shore not politically advantageous enough?
 
2012-11-12 12:01:14 PM

Cythraul: Start charging them $100.00 per disaster photo, and $50.00 per sight seeing tour and donate all the money to Sandy relief and reconstruction efforts.


And... who is going to do the charging, again?
 
2012-11-12 12:01:15 PM
serpent_sky: "Wait - people spend money to go and look at areas where people's houses were destroyed and they lost everything? That is a real thing?"

Yeah, whereas you and I are content to let professional journalists, photographers -- or at least bloggers -- go out and do the disaster porn/voyeurism and then just enjoy the "urban decay" photos and stories online and in coffee table books, some strange folk actually want to do these "tours" and take shiatty pictures first-hand.

/ which is to say: most of us are pretty farkin guilty of this shiat
 
2012-11-12 12:05:20 PM

ha-ha-guy: You'd think this would be good, in that the majority of the tourists would walk away with more appreciation for the strength of natural disasters. In other words if they are ever told to evacuation to avoid something, they will (reducing the number of morons rescue workers have to go save). They'll also understand the need to proper insurance policies and hopefully an appreciation for the role FEMA can play.


The only flaw in your logic is that it contains logic.

Those folks who drive by in their SUV's are the same folks that will be talking to the reporter in the hip-waders when the next storm passes through their neighborhood
 
2012-11-12 12:09:56 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: AgentBang: If one was going to drive down there for any other reason than to help, I would call them a ghoul. If you want to pack up a few cars, help out for a day or two, similar to a Habitat for Humanity kind of thing, then yeah, go help and take a few pictures while you are down there. There are so many pictures out there as it is, why go there yourself?

But to drive through, take pictures and go home? You suck.

LOL. Why go to Paris and see the Eiffel Tower? Why go to the Grand Canyon?

Because experiencing things firsthand is something humans like to do.


Are you comparing the destruction and aftermath from a hurricane to the Eiffel Tower or the Grand Canyon? Not sure I'm following...
 
2012-11-12 12:10:33 PM

gilgigamesh: That actually would be a good idea for the SUV crowd. But the tour buses will come, and they don't stop off to visit.


1) the passengers will make the bus stop if you have cheap useless crap that they can see from the street
2) or just promise the bus companies a cut. They'll stop every single time!


Just throwing some ideas out there. Lost 2 houses; one to flood and one to mercury poisoning. It really sucks starting over and anything you can do to cash in is something you should do.
 
2012-11-12 12:10:42 PM

MycroftHolmes: jaylectricity: "The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.

Yeah, because being angry at people treating your personal disaster as a sideshow is not all invasive. How about the next time you have a loved one in the ICU, you invite all of us to sit there with popcorn and watch you deal with personal hardship.


Listen, I was without power for EIGHTEEN HOURS. My wireless router runs on electricity so I had NO INTERNET! My girlfriend's phone kept sliding between 4G and 3G and it was taking upwards of 20 seconds to load some pages. Furthermore the battery was dying! I had to take my beer and go out to the car, sit and listen to Monday Night Football on the radio and plug her phone into the car charger. I had to start the car and run it for 5 minutes almost every hour!

So don't tell me about personal disasters.
 
2012-11-12 12:11:01 PM
After Katrina, I had to show my ID to get back into the city. and that was about a month after the storm as I recall. It's not rocket science.
 
2012-11-12 12:14:25 PM

gilgigamesh: I know how that sounds, but she's right. You can't really know the feeling until you've spent the day staggering around the remains of everything you've ever owned, trying to decide what to keep and what to pile in the mound at the curb, as tourists drive by and snap pictures of your lowest moment in life. It's like being fed on by ghouls.


I was working with a disaster relief response team at a med station in the wake of a pretty bad storm in Mid Michigan back in 2008 or 2009. In a very small area, about half a dozen tornadoes touched down over the span of three small towns close to my home town. Entire buildings were destroyed, a couple trailer parks blown away, and one strip of about four miles of nice, middle/upper class houses were knocked flat.

Even with the relative small scale of the destruction, the rubberneckers would come out and set up freaking tripods to take pictures. Now, I get if you are press, or a professional photographer, or even an amateur one that just wants to document for posterity. These numbskulls had their families posing in front of people's destroyed houses, while the owners were in the front yard, and setting the timer so he could run up and say "cheese" in front of camera with them.

Granted, he was the worst offender, but there were plenty of people out there that thought nothing of wandering right into someone's yard and taking pictures though the hole in the wall into their kids' bedrooms. Police were trying to shoo them off, for all they could do. They were kind of busy too, so only so much they could hang around and deter the looky loos.

The look on people's faces were more or less that of being slapped. So yeah, I imagine "violation" more or less fits.
 
2012-11-12 12:16:29 PM
I disaster-toured the 9th ward. (in a convoy of 4 white passenger vans.) During the week I spent rebuilding a house in the 8th ward. This year.

Beforehand my group met with a man who survived Katrina, but his granddaughter didn't. I cried and got to hug him at the end.

Just because they aren't helping your neighborhood doesn't mean they aren't helping, or talkign to your neighbors, or not feelign helpless that they can't do more.

In the same vein, it feels weird to do a slow drive-by close to someone's house. I could tell they felt violated. And this was years after the disaster.

I would put up a sign of what you need. I bet a disaster tourist will bring it.
 
2012-11-12 12:18:08 PM

Shadowknight: The look on people's faces were more or less that of being slapped. So yeah, I imagine "violation" more or less fits.


These are the same sad sacks that rubberneck at car accidents "hoping" to see the pain and suffering.

That's why I have no mercy for them. Sell them tons of useless fake crap then throw nails into the road so they have to pay for a tow truck and/or over priced used tires.
 
2012-11-12 12:18:27 PM
Subby, how dare you refer to HypeStorm Sandy as mere Hurricane Sandy. You'll have mediacrats crying like little biaches now and the worked so hard!
 
2012-11-12 12:18:56 PM
unfortunately, it's not particularly novel that many people who were unaffected by a disaster are very callous and indifferent to those who were affected.

/ the only positive thing i see is that, at least this means the ill-will towards new orleans was done out of a general failure of humanity, not a particular hate of the city.
// wait, that's worse...
 
2012-11-12 12:20:11 PM
As someone from NJ affected by HS (don't live by the shore, but we had days of no power, trees blocking roads out blah blah blah), I think I would be pretty annoyed with jerkwads rolling by just snapping photos (didn't seem to have that ish, luckily). You took the time to come out here? How about pitching in a little and help us get that farking tree off Ethel's porch, because she's 85 and can barely get around her own house. Maybe bring some gatorades or sammiches? No?

Then GTFO of the farking way so we can do it ourselves.

/Jersey represent.
//Get off our lawns.
/// ;)
 
2012-11-12 12:20:37 PM

gilgigamesh: Cythraul: Start charging them $100.00 per disaster photo, and $50.00 per sight seeing tour and donate all the money to Sandy relief and reconstruction efforts.

Uh, capitalism doesn't work that way. Tour companies trundle those damn buses through the ninth ward, keep every cent, and there is not a damn thing the residents can do about it.

How are homeowners supposed to enforce a fee for someone driving by with a bus full of tourists snapping pictures of the wreckage that was their house?


The second amendment.
 
2012-11-12 12:20:56 PM
spread out some Halloween decorations, spray paint the tip of a kids gun, offer tourist a $10 photo -op (zombie land/World War Z) as the star on your front lawn, pay the bus driver to stop.
 
2012-11-12 12:23:20 PM

jaylectricity: TXEric: Diogenes: jaylectricity: "The gawking was amazing last week," said Joanne McClenin, whose home was filled with water five feet high on the night Sandy came ashore. "It was kind of offensive as a homeowner, because I felt violated."

Oh my god, put on your big girl panties and man the fark up.

I, on the other hand, would probably put on a little show for them.

I would as well.
If, by "a little show", you mean letting them have the experience of staring down the muzzle of an AR-15 as I clicked the bolt release shut...

Lookout, we got a badass up in here.


Please keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle until we come to a complete stop...
 
2012-11-12 12:23:56 PM

gilgigamesh: Cythraul: Start charging them $100.00 per disaster photo, and $50.00 per sight seeing tour and donate all the money to Sandy relief and reconstruction efforts.

Uh, capitalism doesn't work that way. Tour companies trundle those damn buses through the ninth ward, keep every cent, and there is not a damn thing the residents can do about it.

How are homeowners supposed to enforce a fee for someone driving by with a bus full of tourists snapping pictures of the wreckage that was their house?


Make all of the roads toll roads, and rebate the money to homeowners.
 
2012-11-12 12:24:07 PM
We had hundreds of them after the Waldo Canyon Fire came through my neighborhood this past June. They should have been shot along with the looters.
 
2012-11-12 12:24:12 PM
GIS "Sandy storm damage"

About 162,000,000 results (0.40 seconds)
 
2012-11-12 12:26:53 PM
New Yorkers are such pansies these days.
 
2012-11-12 12:27:30 PM
Hey NYC Farkers: do you have any idea to what extent the NYPL (library) has been affected? I'm waiting for something from them which should have been here by now. If they're having storm related problems, I don't want to pester by following up on it - I can wait until things are better. If they're functioning normally, though, and just dropping the ball, it's time for a sternly worded email.

Oh yeah, the billions of dollars in storm damage and displaced families take a back seat to my missing library materials...

Srsly though, I wish all affected a speedy recovery.
 
2012-11-12 12:28:10 PM

gilgigamesh: Not that I believe in Karma, but I wonder how many of these Long Islanders took part in one of the disaster junkets to New Orleans' Ninth Ward that are still to this day driving those folks nuts.



Yep, see them every week (I live right near a bridge to the lower ninth).  No friggin' idea what these people expect to see.  Anything totally destroyed is gone, and the rest is fairly re-built.  So basically its a normal old New Orleans neighborhood and a large field.  There's nothing to even gawk at.
 
Yeah, there's still some blight (abandoned houses).  But its no different than any city nowadays.  Maybe I'm missing something.
 
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