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2012-11-12 10:21:18 AM  

Thunderpipes: Does America's future look bright to you? We will be 20-22 trillion in debt by the end of Obama's 2nd term. Growth at best will be maybe 2%. Taxing the evil rich will not put even a dent in the deficit, and all projections on that do not factor in the negative aspects of taxing people, many who run businesses.


Show your math, unless you're like the average Right Winger and this is your Kryptonite. I know, I know, facts and logic don't belong in 'The Truth', but here in the real world, we like to use them to make informed decisions, you know, kind of like Nate Silver did to prognosticate the election results.
 
2012-11-12 10:21:37 AM  

Tigger: It exists because the founding fathers were terrified of mob rule having just witnessed France burn itself to the ground. It was a deliberate attempt to put a buffer between the people and the executive.


Wasn't that also the reason for not having direct election of Senators, which we have since changed?
 
2012-11-12 10:22:39 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: If it weren't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.


Now I know how aneurisms happen.
 
2012-11-12 10:23:44 AM  

Tigger: The electoral college doesn't exist to protect smaller states rights.

It exists because the founding fathers were terrified of mob rule having just witnessed France burn itself to the ground. It was a deliberate attempt to put a buffer between the people and the executive.


The Constitution was written in 1787. The French revolution did not start until 1789.
 
2012-11-12 10:24:04 AM  

Tigger: The electoral college doesn't exist to protect smaller states rights.

It exists because the founding fathers were terrified of mob rule having just witnessed France burn itself to the ground. It was a deliberate attempt to put a buffer between the people and the executive.


To that same point, the only right to vote for federal office specifically called out in the constitution was for the house of representatives. Both the Senate and the Presidency were to be decided by the educated elite in each state. This would force the simpletons and the mob to focus upon local issues rather than getting distracted with nation-wide issues of which they had little understanding but could easily fall sway to charlatans and feckless propagandists, such as issues of war and peace.

How far we've fallen.
 
2012-11-12 10:25:44 AM  

MrVeach: How is it a democracy if half the people want someone else as president? Maybe they should split the term percentagewise based on votes. Obama first 25 months, Romney last 23? Stagger it?


Okay there are two issues with this idea. First, it's stupid. Second, majority rules. Your guy lost by a wide margin, get over it!
 
2012-11-12 10:25:58 AM  

born_yesterday: Because reform of the health insurance industry is the worst thing this country has ever faced, apparently.

Especially when that reform is largely the Republican plan proposed as an alternative to HilaryCare.



Ever stop to think that the Republicans know that their plan sucked, and was never really a serious offer? It was just a pile of bullshiat intended to make Hillary look bad.
 
2012-11-12 10:28:49 AM  

Thunderpipes: ...Minorities really do breed much faster. So do poor people. They all vote for whomever gives them the most free stuff...


Oh, but Republicans aren't racists, and the Democrats are the real racists for saying so. Right.

No doubt, it's an isolated incident.
 
2012-11-12 10:30:20 AM  
Well, only 270 more electoral votes would have given ME the presidency, and I didn't even run. Also, 270 is less than 330,000.
 
2012-11-12 10:32:02 AM  
Minorities really do breed much faster. So do poor people. They all vote for whomever gives them the most free stuff...

i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-12 10:33:03 AM  

Skw33tis: Thunderpipes: ...Minorities really do breed much faster. So do poor people. They all vote for whomever gives them the most free stuff...

Oh, but Republicans aren't racists, and the Democrats are the real racists for saying so. Right.

No doubt, it's an isolated incident.


What do facts have to do with racism? You are aware of the facts about demographics, right? Democrats, but even more now that Obama is the Messiah, get the overwhelming majority of minority votes. This is a fact. They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.
 
2012-11-12 10:37:03 AM  

Thunderpipes: They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.


what if they promise free abortions? did I just blow your mind?
 
2012-11-12 10:38:34 AM  

This text is now purple: Moosecakes: So hey, terrible idea! National Popular Vote is the only reasonable way to go.

And via some imaginary mechanism, you'll convince the 31 states whose votes you need to disenfranchise themselves.




You don't need to convince all, or even most of the states. You just need to get 270+ EV worth of states to agree to cast their EVs to the winner of the national popular vote. That's what the NPVIC is designed on.

132 EVs have signed up for it already,
 
2012-11-12 10:39:08 AM  

Shaggy_C: Holocaust Agnostic: Small states are already overrepresented in the House and wildly overrepresented in the Senate. They have a voice in government. The EC needs to go.

And then, rather than campaigning in 13 states, presidential candidates will only campaign in the NYC, Chicago, Houston, Philly, and LA metro areas.


How many people actually saw Obama, Biden, Romney or Ryan in the flesh this election cycle? The ten most populus US cities add up to around 25 million people - or around 20% of the total votes cast for president last week. Sure, they'll spend a lot more time physically in NYC and LA, but they'll still buy airtime in Alaska. Foxnews will still broadcast into rural areas, the internet won't by some miracle retract to appearing only in urban centers. And as I said before, tv spots in are significantly cheaper in Toledo than they are in Chicago, so small cities won't suddenly get a blessed lack of advertising.

These guys ain't one-at-a-timing - and they haven't since Marconi invented the radio or JFK made Nixon look like a zombie in their debate. They're MASS communicating.
 
2012-11-12 10:39:12 AM  

Heraclitus: You know, you plan and you hope and you dream, and every once in a while the planets line up just right...


Just not Kolob.
 
2012-11-12 10:43:22 AM  
Yeah and if a frog had winds, he wouldn't bump his ass a jumpin'.

Romney lost because he allowed the RNC to dictate his campaign strategy and cuddled up to the Tea Party. When he did that, he lost moderates to Obama.
 
2012-11-12 10:43:43 AM  

Thunderpipes: Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.


What free stuff has been promised. You keep posting generic statements. Post some verifiable facts.

I want to know exactly what taxpayer-funded things have been promised to minorities by democrats.
 
2012-11-12 10:43:57 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Tigger: The electoral college doesn't exist to protect smaller states rights.

It exists because the founding fathers were terrified of mob rule having just witnessed France burn itself to the ground. It was a deliberate attempt to put a buffer between the people and the executive.

The Constitution was written in 1787. The French revolution did not start until 1789.


www.strangecosmos.com
 
2012-11-12 10:44:28 AM  

Headso: Thunderpipes: They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.

what if they promise free abortions? did I just blow your mind?


Well, considering that they ran on that, well, ya.

I just wish liberals would actually care and think about solutions, instead of how to use tax dollars to stay in power. The deficit crisis is bad, and getting much worse each day, and none of you care. Are any of you parents? Don't you care that in 10-20 years we will be in deep, deep trouble with no way out?
 
2012-11-12 10:44:28 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Tigger: The electoral college doesn't exist to protect smaller states rights.

It exists because the founding fathers were terrified of mob rule having just witnessed France burn itself to the ground. It was a deliberate attempt to put a buffer between the people and the executive.

The Constitution was written in 1787. The French revolution did not start until 1789.


Fair - what I should have said was

Hamilton in Federalist Papers - "Mob rule will get us all killed - these people are farking idiots and shouldn't vote"
Cut to six months later - "look at France - mob rule"

I think there's a bit about it in Tocqueville as well - essentially linking the rising uppitiness of poor people across the west.
 
2012-11-12 10:44:59 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: goes back to my belief that the only way to get through the butthurt is through ridicule, because these people are being ridiculous and 'facts and logic' are quite literally considered 'tools of the liberals' and shouldn't be trusted.


Yeah, I came to that point over the summer. There is no reasoning with persons who won't listen. Instead, you can either avoid the argument altogether or just plow them into the ground with ridicule. Otherwise, reasoned debate (facts) have little to effect on their opinion and/or mindset and is simply a waste of time.

I never believed in this whole "life in the bubble" thing with conservatives until I started engaging them in debate. Then I quickly learned it was pointless to have any middle ground with them. Best just to cut the wound open and grind salt into it until they writhe in pain. Afterwards when walking away, add "I told you so" for good measure.

By now, I have seen enough conservatives eyes gloss over when presented with reason to know they will probably never change. Better to spend time dealing with people who have already have a bit of compassion for others than attempt to change a conservative butt-mind. They are a group that is beyond hope at this point and I wish they would do as so many have threatened - move to another country (but we know most countries would not have them). They are the biggest obstacle to this country moving forward in the 21st century.
 
2012-11-12 10:45:25 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Thunderpipes: Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.

What free stuff has been promised. You keep posting generic statements. Post some verifiable facts.

I want to know exactly what taxpayer-funded things have been promised to minorities by democrats.


I was promised a free Thunderpipes cockpunching machine. It just punches thunderpipes. In the cock. For free.
 
2012-11-12 10:45:35 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: Obama won with Electoral and Popular votes. Deal with it.


Done in five.
 
2012-11-12 10:45:43 AM  

brobdiggy: Not protesting Obama or anything, but the Electoral College "winner take all" system is absolutely stupid.

Every election we hear the "your vote counts" garbage. That's not true. The message should be "your vote counts if you live in Ohio or Florida".

I understand why we don't do national popular voting (recount nightmares... yikes)... but voting should be done electorally be DISTRICT instead of at the STATE level.
In other words, All states should do what Nebraska and Maine do..
It makes the most sense, and it doesn't leave voters feeling disenfranchised like the current system does.

However, it would never pass, because liberals in blue states and conservatives in red states wouldn't allow it.


Do you really believe that state governments should be allowed to Gerrymander the results they desire?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-11-12 10:46:28 AM  

This text is now purple: ramblinwreck: Le Grand Inquisitor: Free Radical: If Obama wouldn't have won by a landslide it wouldn't have been a mandate.

That election was not a mandate...popular vote was close and the the house stayed GOP. If you expect political capital and change, you are sorely mistaken

House Dems received significantly more votes than GOP Reps. That identifies a significant problem with how the districts are drawn.

All it really indicates is that democratic districts are urban and republican districts are rural. It's much harder to organize rural districts, due to the lower population density.


i dunno, there's multiple districts in Texas that seem to be 80% "rural", and 20% "urban" by design, if you know what I mean. In fact, IIRC one area of Texas happens to nicely portion off one uppity "urban" area into several pieces, for some strange reason. I wonder why...
 
2012-11-12 10:46:49 AM  

Karac: Shaggy_C: Holocaust Agnostic: Small states are already overrepresented in the House and wildly overrepresented in the Senate. They have a voice in government. The EC needs to go.

And then, rather than campaigning in 13 states, presidential candidates will only campaign in the NYC, Chicago, Houston, Philly, and LA metro areas.

How many people actually saw Obama, Biden, Romney or Ryan in the flesh this election cycle? The ten most populus US cities add up to around 25 million people - or around 20% of the total votes cast for president last week. Sure, they'll spend a lot more time physically in NYC and LA, but they'll still buy airtime in Alaska. Foxnews will still broadcast into rural areas, the internet won't by some miracle retract to appearing only in urban centers. And as I said before, tv spots in are significantly cheaper in Toledo than they are in Chicago, so small cities won't suddenly get a blessed lack of advertising.

These guys ain't one-at-a-timing - and they haven't since Marconi Tesla invented the radio or JFK made Nixon look like a zombie in their debate. They're MASS communicating.


ftfy
 
2012-11-12 10:47:18 AM  

Thunderpipes: Headso: Thunderpipes: They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.

what if they promise free abortions? did I just blow your mind?

Well, considering that they ran on that, well, ya.

I just wish liberals would actually care and think about solutions, instead of how to use tax dollars to stay in power. The deficit crisis is bad, and getting much worse each day, and none of you care. Are any of you parents? Don't you care that in 10-20 years we will be in deep, deep trouble with no way out?


How much do you think we need to cut taxes on the job creators to fully solve our debt problem? 20%? 50%?
 
2012-11-12 10:47:50 AM  

Dimensio:

No, "liberals" did not hide conservative ballots. They submitted extra liberal ballots, as is evident by one Florida county reporting 140.92% turnout.


And of course, you have no link to support your derp.
It's no wonder I have you favorited as "TinfoilhatTard".
 
2012-11-12 10:48:47 AM  
i1125.photobucket.com

/Dry your vaginas and get on with life.
//Seriously.
 
2012-11-12 10:48:54 AM  
((47% people mooching x 3/5th a person voting x 12 million jobs Romney would create - 6016 years the Earth has been around) / 10 (number of Huntsman and Romney children)) - (Atari 7800) = 330,000

Math, using bullshiat, false or sad facts. Plus Atari (well, minus Atari really).
 
2012-11-12 10:52:25 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Thunderpipes: Headso: Thunderpipes: They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.

what if they promise free abortions? did I just blow your mind?

Well, considering that they ran on that, well, ya.

I just wish liberals would actually care and think about solutions, instead of how to use tax dollars to stay in power. The deficit crisis is bad, and getting much worse each day, and none of you care. Are any of you parents? Don't you care that in 10-20 years we will be in deep, deep trouble with no way out?

How much do you think we need to cut taxes on the job creators to fully solve our debt problem? 20%? 50%?


A slight tax cut would be nice. But that alone would not do it. We need massive cuts in domestic spending, military and social. We need to reform the big entitlements. We need to make being poor hard, and put unemployment back to what it should be, emergency fund to get back to work.

Democrats want to do one thing and one thing only, tax the rich. Best estimate on that are a drop in the bucket and don't take into effect growth slowdown because of pressure on business owners. Love Obamacare or not, that is another giant lump of costs thrown onto employers. I mean, really, what is Obama's plan? Instead of 1 trillion dollar deficits, we tax the rich and have 900 billion dollar deficits. I am not a math buy, but adding 900 billion a year to debt is bad, yes? Everything you guys believe in is simply to win elections and gain in numbers for your party. Not a single thing is for the good of the country, not one. Even the auto bailout was nothing but a huge taxpayer campaign fund.

You won an election by convincing half the people that being successful is bad and we need to punish that. How far we have sunk as a people...
 
2012-11-12 10:53:16 AM  
What I don't understand, is how Breitbart managed to stay so f*cking fat despite being a coke-addled retard.
 
2012-11-12 10:53:25 AM  
When the number of people taking from the government exceed the number of people adding revenue to the government, pop some popcorn and sit back and watch because this is going to be some fun s***t.
 
2012-11-12 10:54:31 AM  
And if about 1000-2000 more people in one state had voted a different Al Gore would have won.

And if about 80,000 people in one state had voted different John Kerry would have won.
 
2012-11-12 10:54:34 AM  

Thunderpipes: Philip Francis Queeg: Thunderpipes: Headso: Thunderpipes: They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.

what if they promise free abortions? did I just blow your mind?

Well, considering that they ran on that, well, ya.

I just wish liberals would actually care and think about solutions, instead of how to use tax dollars to stay in power. The deficit crisis is bad, and getting much worse each day, and none of you care. Are any of you parents? Don't you care that in 10-20 years we will be in deep, deep trouble with no way out?

How much do you think we need to cut taxes on the job creators to fully solve our debt problem? 20%? 50%?

A slight tax cut would be nice. But that alone would not do it. We need massive cuts in domestic spending, military and social. We need to reform the big entitlements. We need to make being poor hard, and put unemployment back to what it should be, emergency fund to get back to work.

Democrats want to do one thing and one thing only, tax the rich. Best estimate on that are a drop in the bucket and don't take into effect growth slowdown because of pressure on business owners. Love Obamacare or not, that is another giant lump of costs thrown onto employers. I mean, really, what is Obama's plan? Instead of 1 trillion dollar deficits, we tax the rich and have 900 billion dollar deficits. I am not a math buy, but adding 900 billion a year to debt is bad, yes? Everything you guys believe in is simply to win elections and gain in numbers for your party. Not a single thing is for the good of the country, not one. Even the auto bailout was nothing but a huge taxpayer campaign fund.

You won an election by convincing half the people that being successful is bad and we need to punish that. How far we have sunk as a people...


I'd call you an armchair economist, but I think what you're sitting on is closer to a toilet.

Toilet economist!
 
2012-11-12 10:54:37 AM  

Thunderpipes: Philip Francis Queeg: Thunderpipes: Headso: Thunderpipes: They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.

what if they promise free abortions? did I just blow your mind?

Well, considering that they ran on that, well, ya.

I just wish liberals would actually care and think about solutions, instead of how to use tax dollars to stay in power. The deficit crisis is bad, and getting much worse each day, and none of you care. Are any of you parents? Don't you care that in 10-20 years we will be in deep, deep trouble with no way out?

How much do you think we need to cut taxes on the job creators to fully solve our debt problem? 20%? 50%?

A slight tax cut would be nice. But that alone would not do it. We need massive cuts in domestic spending, military and social. We need to reform the big entitlements. We need to make being poor hard, and put unemployment back to what it should be, emergency fund to get back to work.

Democrats want to do one thing and one thing only, tax the rich. Best estimate on that are a drop in the bucket and don't take into effect growth slowdown because of pressure on business owners. Love Obamacare or not, that is another giant lump of costs thrown onto employers. I mean, really, what is Obama's plan? Instead of 1 trillion dollar deficits, we tax the rich and have 900 billion dollar deficits. I am not a math buy, but adding 900 billion a year to debt is bad, yes? Everything you guys believe in is simply to win elections and gain in numbers for your party. Not a single thing is for the good of the country, not one. Even the auto bailout was nothing but a huge taxpayer campaign fund.

You won an election by convincing half the people that being successful is bad and we need to punish that. How far we have sunk as a people...


Are you that old guy from Hungary or Albania or whatever who put that commercial about socialism on TV to convince mongoloids to vote GOP? You know, the one that confused socialism with Communism?
 
2012-11-12 10:55:42 AM  
So, I dare one person here to tell me how Obama will fix things. Use numbers and such. I dare you.

Oh, you cannot, because we are screwed. You are happy your guy won, want to attack people with jobs, and who cares....
 
2012-11-12 10:57:12 AM  

Thunderpipes: So, I dare one person here to tell me how Obama will fix things. Use numbers and such. I dare you.

Oh, you cannot, because we are screwed. You are happy your guy won, want to attack people with jobs, and who cares....


We fix it with stimulus/domestic spending
 
2012-11-12 10:57:15 AM  

Thunderpipes: Philip Francis Queeg: Thunderpipes: Headso: Thunderpipes: They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.

what if they promise free abortions? did I just blow your mind?

Well, considering that they ran on that, well, ya.

I just wish liberals would actually care and think about solutions, instead of how to use tax dollars to stay in power. The deficit crisis is bad, and getting much worse each day, and none of you care. Are any of you parents? Don't you care that in 10-20 years we will be in deep, deep trouble with no way out?

How much do you think we need to cut taxes on the job creators to fully solve our debt problem? 20%? 50%?

A slight tax cut would be nice. But that alone would not do it. We need massive cuts in domestic spending, military and social. We need to reform the big entitlements. We need to make being poor hard, and put unemployment back to what it should be, emergency fund to get back to work.

Democrats want to do one thing and one thing only, tax the rich. Best estimate on that are a drop in the bucket and don't take into effect growth slowdown because of pressure on business owners. Love Obamacare or not, that is another giant lump of costs thrown onto employers. I mean, really, what is Obama's plan? Instead of 1 trillion dollar deficits, we tax the rich and have 900 billion dollar deficits. I am not a math buy, but adding 900 billion a year to debt is bad, yes? Everything you guys believe in is simply to win elections and gain in numbers for your party. Not a single thing is for the good of the country, not one. Even the auto bailout was nothing but a huge taxpayer campaign fund.

You won an election by convincing half the people that being successful is bad and we need to punish that. How far we have sunk as a people...


I'm glad you're deep inside your echo chamber, but come on out so you can get some fresh air.

Unfortunately, you are misguided about many, many things about Democrats. Apparently you think we only want to tax the rich. Well, last week, all we wanted to do was make every woman have an abortion. The week before that the only thing we wanted to do was replace all of Gideon's Bible's with Achmed's Koran's.

You really need to keep up with the times.

But, in truth, I already know your tactic: Always keep moving. Address a point by shifting it sideways to a tangential part of the argument, and continually move the yardstick. By doing this you can successfully claim "The Dems can't answer my hard questions" when in truth we put them to rest and ask you to show where your faulty logic is coming from, at which point you jump to another subject.

You will never be satisfied with the answers provided, even when you are proven wrong in all ways. Go ahead and start filling up your ignore list before we start a verbal rape gang on you.
 
2012-11-12 10:58:01 AM  

Thunderpipes: Philip Francis Queeg: Thunderpipes: Headso: Thunderpipes: They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.

what if they promise free abortions? did I just blow your mind?

Well, considering that they ran on that, well, ya.

I just wish liberals would actually care and think about solutions, instead of how to use tax dollars to stay in power. The deficit crisis is bad, and getting much worse each day, and none of you care. Are any of you parents? Don't you care that in 10-20 years we will be in deep, deep trouble with no way out?

How much do you think we need to cut taxes on the job creators to fully solve our debt problem? 20%? 50%?

A slight tax cut would be nice. But that alone would not do it. We need massive cuts in domestic spending, military and social. We need to reform the big entitlements. We need to make being poor hard, and put unemployment back to what it should be, emergency fund to get back to work.

Democrats want to do one thing and one thing only, tax the rich. Best estimate on that are a drop in the bucket and don't take into effect growth slowdown because of pressure on business owners. Love Obamacare or not, that is another giant lump of costs thrown onto employers. I mean, really, what is Obama's plan? Instead of 1 trillion dollar deficits, we tax the rich and have 900 billion dollar deficits. I am not a math buy, but adding 900 billion a year to debt is bad, yes? Everything you guys believe in is simply to win elections and gain in numbers for your party. Not a single thing is for the good of the country, not one. Even the auto bailout was nothing but a huge taxpayer campaign fund.

You won an election by convincing half the people that being successful is bad and we need to punish that. How far we have sunk as a people...


Yes, because the country went under when Clinton raised the top tax rate to 39.2 percent. Of course, in your narrow vision, you can't see that the Democrats have only made that one part of the plan, but because that's a non-starter for Republicans, you won't even pay attention to cuts that the Democrats propose. Not to mention that Republicans are proposing massive military spending increases, far dwarfing the token cuts that you've proposed (NPR, PP, teleprompter) and you attacked Obama for "cutting Medicare". So no, Republicans have no f*cking plan to attack the deficits other than the usual "TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY AND PIXIE DUST"
 
2012-11-12 10:58:29 AM  

Thunderpipes: Philip Francis Queeg: Thunderpipes: Headso: Thunderpipes: They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.

what if they promise free abortions? did I just blow your mind?

Well, considering that they ran on that, well, ya.

I just wish liberals would actually care and think about solutions, instead of how to use tax dollars to stay in power. The deficit crisis is bad, and getting much worse each day, and none of you care. Are any of you parents? Don't you care that in 10-20 years we will be in deep, deep trouble with no way out?

How much do you think we need to cut taxes on the job creators to fully solve our debt problem? 20%? 50%?

A slight tax cut would be nice. But that alone would not do it. We need massive cuts in domestic spending, military and social. We need to reform the big entitlements. We need to make being poor hard, and put unemployment back to what it should be, emergency fund to get back to work.

Democrats want to do one thing and one thing only, tax the rich. Best estimate on that are a drop in the bucket and don't take into effect growth slowdown because of pressure on business owners. Love Obamacare or not, that is another giant lump of costs thrown onto employers. I mean, really, what is Obama's plan? Instead of 1 trillion dollar deficits, we tax the rich and have 900 billion dollar deficits. I am not a math buy, but adding 900 billion a year to debt is bad, yes? Everything you guys believe in is simply to win elections and gain in numbers for your party. Not a single thing is for the good of the country, not one. Even the auto bailout was nothing but a huge taxpayer campaign fund.

You won an election by convincing half the people that being successful is bad and we need to punish that. How far we have sunk as a people...


Yeah being poor is really fabulous these days. It's too bad that the poor aren't punished enough with illnesses and malnutrition. We will only prosper as a nation when childhood malnutrition is as common as it was 100 years ago. I weep bitterly for the unprecedented suffering that the wealthy in this country endure.
 
2012-11-12 10:59:58 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

Obama won but if he didn't Romney would have won (Thanks Breitfart)
 
2012-11-12 11:01:40 AM  

Thunderpipes: Skw33tis: Thunderpipes: ...Minorities really do breed much faster. So do poor people. They all vote for whomever gives them the most free stuff...

Oh, but Republicans aren't racists, and the Democrats are the real racists for saying so. Right.

No doubt, it's an isolated incident.

What do facts have to do with racism? You are aware of the facts about demographics, right? Democrats, but even more now that Obama is the Messiah, get the overwhelming majority of minority votes. This is a fact. They breed faster, also a fact. Democrats can remain in power, and even gain in power simply by promising free stuff.


I missed all those promises of free stuff.
 
2012-11-12 11:01:47 AM  

Thunderpipes: Dems just have the advantage. Mexicans, blacks are all in their corner no matter what and they breed like crazy. That alone gives them elections. Then you have moron young people, who cannot get a job out of college but still scream for Obama's nut droppings.

Just going to get way worse before, if ever, it gets better. Math is simple, and we cannot afford this route as a country. Eventually, you run out of successful people to tax because their won't be enough, and the screaming hordes of young unemployed Democrats will never see reality because they are idiots.


The shortest route to having too few successful people to tax is by continuing to think trickle down economics works. When no one but the uber rich has any money, there is no one left to tax.
 
2012-11-12 11:02:09 AM  
assets.amuniversal.com
 
2012-11-12 11:03:01 AM  
GOP = Handle it!!

SFW

Link
 
2012-11-12 11:07:25 AM  

Thunderpipes: So, I dare one person here to tell me how Obama will fix things. Use numbers and such. I dare you.

Oh, you cannot, because we are screwed. You are happy your guy won, want to attack people with jobs, and who cares....


There was that deficit reduction plan early last year in which Boehner said he got 90% of what he wanted that included very modest revenue increases and LOTs of spending cuts. It is what is known as a compromise. The tea party economic terrorists in the House poo-poo'd it. The GOP is holding the economy of this country hostage and it is disgusting to see and instead of recognizing that the Dems gave the GOP 90% of what they wanted you cry like a little biatch about 'punishing' the wealthy which is nothing more than paying the same rates they paid in the 90s. Acknowledge the deal that was on the table where the Dems gave a lot and the GOP gave nothing. THAT is why things are so dire today, because of the GOP. Look in the farking mirror and open your goddamned eyes!
 
2012-11-12 11:12:50 AM  

Thunderpipes: We need to reform the big entitlements.


If you take the same amount of taxes for SS, Medicare, etc, but slash the benefits, isn't that "raising taxes" under the new conservative definition? Why do you want to raise taxes?
 
2012-11-12 11:16:37 AM  

Thunderpipes: So, I dare one person here to tell me how Obama will fix things. Use numbers and such. I dare you.

Oh, you cannot, because we are screwed. You are happy your guy won, want to attack people with jobs, and who cares....


I'll leave it to someone else to post the dozen or so charts of unemployment steadily dropping for 3 years straight, manufacturing growing, the DOW climbing, and all those other pretty economic indicators that show us improving steadily.

We drove into a ditch, it's not like hitting a speed bump, it takes time and effort to climb out.
 
2012-11-12 11:17:04 AM  
Rather funny the Republicans are whining about the Electoral College being unfair, since it was a key plank in their platform this year:

From the 2012 Republican Platform (Link)
"The Continuing Importance of Protecting the Electoral College (Top)

We oppose the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact or any other scheme to abolish or distort the procedures of the Electoral College. We recognize that an unconstitutional effort to impose "national popular vote" would be a mortal threat to our federal system and a guarantee of corruption as every ballot box in every state would become a chance to steal the presidency."

In other words, they thought they would get an EC win, and just in case Obama won the popular vote they were wanting to set up their opposition to changing to a popular vote system.

They'll turn their backs on their own party platform in a moment if they think it'll increase their odds of being elected, they don't care about platform or positions or principles, only power for powers sake.
 
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