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2012-11-12 08:38:03 AM  
Ulgh, this would have to be from my state.

I forget just how hickish my fellow North Carolinians sound until I hear people from outside the Raleigh area.

This is a really long audio clip. I'm getting bored.

Alrighty, I'm bored. Closing link.
 
2012-11-12 08:56:12 AM  
Transcript? Clips? No? Pass.

If they can't be bothered, neither can I.
 
2012-11-12 09:01:09 AM  
.... Why would you post audio clip with no context whatsoever... wtf would I sit through this?
 
2012-11-12 09:07:25 AM  
404'd for me. Am not disappoint.
 
2012-11-12 09:15:09 AM  
The posts in this thread so far really make me want to listen to the clip.
 
2012-11-12 09:17:05 AM  
The clip is nearly 45 minutes long. WTF subby? Does subby really expect people to have 45 minutes to waste listening to an audio clip of some redneck acting like a moraan?
 
2012-11-12 09:17:14 AM  

THX 1138: The posts in this thread so far really make me want to listen to the clip.


I'm waiting for the Lifetime Movie version, myself.
 
2012-11-12 09:18:22 AM  

Cythraul: Ulgh, this would have to be from my state.

I forget just how hickish my fellow North Carolinians sound until I hear people from outside the Raleigh area.

This is a really long audio clip. I'm getting bored.

Alrighty, I'm bored. Closing link.


My ex is a fairly conservative person who just retired from the military, and she has decided to sell her dream house and get the fark out of the Sandhills area sepifically because of excessive derp.
 
2012-11-12 09:19:41 AM  

Masso: .... Why would you post audio clip with no context whatsoever... wtf would I sit through this?


I'm 3 minutes into it and I am bored as fark.
 
2012-11-12 09:20:18 AM  

mrshowrules: Masso: .... Why would you post audio clip with no context whatsoever... wtf would I sit through this?

I'm 3 minutes into it and I am bored as fark.


I managed about 8 minutes before giving up.
 
2012-11-12 09:21:49 AM  

mrshowrules: Masso: .... Why would you post audio clip with no context whatsoever... wtf would I sit through this?

I'm 3 minutes into it and I am bored as fark.


5 minutes now and I think I'm done with this bullshiat.
 
2012-11-12 09:23:26 AM  

mrshowrules: mrshowrules: Masso: .... Why would you post audio clip with no context whatsoever... wtf would I sit through this?

I'm 3 minutes into it and I am bored as fark.

5 minutes now and I think I'm done with this bullshiat.


Maybe we should start assigning blocks of this. Teamwork!

/can't listen, at work.
 
2012-11-12 09:27:28 AM  

ampoliros: Transcript? Clips? No? Pass.

If they can't be bothered, neither can I.


This. I'm starting to think whoever greenlit this is a stay at home mom and assumes the rest of us are as well.
 
2012-11-12 09:29:02 AM  
How hard is it to say "gay marriage is nonsense."?

Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?

Did the housing market and unemployment situations wrap themselves up while I was sleeping?

I know math is hard, and Economics scary, but please people, stop eating the red meat your parties are throwing out there to distract you from their lack of spine, cluelessness, or -in the case of the GOP- utterly bat shiat crazy insane policies that are completely inappropriate for the current situation.

Please, for the good of the nation.
 
2012-11-12 09:29:06 AM  

Gotfire: ampoliros: Transcript? Clips? No? Pass.

If they can't be bothered, neither can I.

This. I'm starting to think whoever greenlit this is a stay at home mom and assumes the rest of us are as well.


I'm really surprised this got greenlit. Makes me wonder..
 
2012-11-12 09:31:06 AM  

Hunter_Worthington: How hard is it to say "gay marriage is nonsense."?

Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?

Did the housing market and unemployment situations wrap themselves up while I was sleeping?

I know math is hard, and Economics scary, but please people, stop eating the red meat your parties are throwing out there to distract you from their lack of spine, cluelessness, or -in the case of the GOP- utterly bat shiat crazy insane policies that are completely inappropriate for the current situation.

Please, for the good of the nation.


I'm so glad I have you fark favorited as 'homophobe / bigot,' in a nice bright yellow. That way, I can just let other Farkers deal with you.
 
2012-11-12 09:32:49 AM  

Arkanaut: mrshowrules: mrshowrules: Masso: .... Why would you post audio clip with no context whatsoever... wtf would I sit through this?

I'm 3 minutes into it and I am bored as fark.

5 minutes now and I think I'm done with this bullshiat.

Maybe we should start assigning blocks of this. Teamwork!

/can't listen, at work.


Sort of a SETI@Home deal? Good luck finding intelligence.
 
2012-11-12 09:37:33 AM  

Hunter_Worthington: How hard is it to say "gay marriage is nonsense."?

Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?

Did the housing market and unemployment situations wrap themselves up while I was sleeping?

I know math is hard, and Economics scary, but please people, stop eating the red meat your parties are throwing out there to distract you from their lack of spine, cluelessness, or -in the case of the GOP- utterly bat shiat crazy insane policies that are completely inappropriate for the current situation.

Please, for the good of the nation.


Sounds like you are against same sex marriage but either to cowardly or stupid to explain why exactly.
 
2012-11-12 09:38:12 AM  

Hunter_Worthington: Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?


I'm not clear on what could possibly be more important than saving our cities from God's wrath via fire and brimstone. Coddling gayosexuals is a national security issue.
 
2012-11-12 09:39:43 AM  
I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?
 
2012-11-12 09:40:30 AM  
Stick with it, the good bit's near the end, but you really have to listen to the whole thing to appreciate the context.

/DNRTFA
 
2012-11-12 09:41:07 AM  
He'll get over it.
 
2012-11-12 09:44:26 AM  

Hunter_Worthington: How hard is it to say "gay marriage is nonsense."?

Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?

Did the housing market and unemployment situations wrap themselves up while I was sleeping?

I know math is hard, and Economics scary, but please people, stop eating the red meat your parties are throwing out there to distract you from their lack of spine, cluelessness, or -in the case of the GOP- utterly bat shiat crazy insane policies that are completely inappropriate for the current situation.

Please, for the good of the nation.


you're right, gay people should be allowed to marry if they choose and the conservative push to demonize them is nothing more than the shinny thing they use to distract their base from their absolute lack of solutions beyond more useless supply side BS.

right?
 
2012-11-12 09:44:50 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Hunter_Worthington: Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?

I'm not clear on what could possibly be more important than saving our cities from God's wrath via fire and brimstone. Coddling gayosexuals is a national security issue.


cdn.unicornbooty.com 

You're just not being imaginative enough in how to use the power of 'God's chosen.'
 
2012-11-12 09:45:21 AM  

Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?


Because they are destroying the sanctity of marriages like this:

media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-12 09:46:35 AM  

Cythraul: Hunter_Worthington: How hard is it to say "gay marriage is nonsense."?

Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?

Did the housing market and unemployment situations wrap themselves up while I was sleeping?

I know math is hard, and Economics scary, but please people, stop eating the red meat your parties are throwing out there to distract you from their lack of spine, cluelessness, or -in the case of the GOP- utterly bat shiat crazy insane policies that are completely inappropriate for the current situation.

Please, for the good of the nation.

I'm so glad I have you fark favorited as 'homophobe / bigot,' in a nice bright yellow. That way, I can just let other Farkers deal with you.


I use light red (for readibility), and have 'Gay-marriage denying self-important Douchebag'.

It's a bit verbose, but reasonably accurate.
 
2012-11-12 09:51:30 AM  

Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?


try to see it from their point of view....imagine you're not very bright, and you've spent your entire life around bigoted, fearful, hate filled morans telling you god hates fhags.

now you might think, 'well, I'd look at the situation logically and conclude that the people who told me all these hateful things are just idiots who have spent their lives in a bubble having no interaction with actual gay people. I'd probably conclude that their objections to gay marriage were based on hatred and ignorance'....but again, you have to dumb yourself down quite a bit...you might need to jump off your roof head first or take a couple chugs from the bottles under the sink.
 
2012-11-12 09:52:39 AM  
It starts getting good around 14 minutes, but you really need to bite the bullet and suffer through the beginning to get the context.
 
2012-11-12 09:52:55 AM  

Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?


I am already sold on the whole issure: i am all for gay marriage only if the right to discriminate of private institutions stays in place - the churches not forced to give babys for adoption / and not being forced to marry gay couples, etc, etc.

The state however should and must give them the same respect and rights a heterosexual couple has.
 
2012-11-12 09:55:02 AM  

CheapEngineer: Cythraul: Hunter_Worthington: How hard is it to say "gay marriage is nonsense."?

Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?

Did the housing market and unemployment situations wrap themselves up while I was sleeping?

I know math is hard, and Economics scary, but please people, stop eating the red meat your parties are throwing out there to distract you from their lack of spine, cluelessness, or -in the case of the GOP- utterly bat shiat crazy insane policies that are completely inappropriate for the current situation.

Please, for the good of the nation.

I'm so glad I have you fark favorited as 'homophobe / bigot,' in a nice bright yellow. That way, I can just let other Farkers deal with you.

I use light red (for readibility), and have 'Gay-marriage denying self-important Douchebag'.

It's a bit verbose, but reasonably accurate.


He/she/it is one of the few that has remained on my ignore list this long after election day.
 
2012-11-12 09:55:03 AM  

Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?


I have an American co-worker who is pretty (very) religious and strongly against gay marriage. According to her, there are religious reasons, including in the New Testament (IIRC, some of the Epistles of St. Paul), but her latest find is some book that argues against gay marriage for non-religious reasons. Those reasons include higher cancer rates among homosexuals, which put a burden on public healthcare (I pointed out that that was a bit disingenuous, since America doesn't really have a system of public healthcare like the UK or Japan), and "other economic reasons".
Of course, such economic arguments completely miss the fact that refusing to recognise gay marriage is not an issue of economics but one of equal rights for all.
 
2012-11-12 09:57:53 AM  

unexplained bacon: Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?

try to see it from their point of view....imagine you're not very bright, and you've spent your entire life around bigoted, fearful, hate filled morans telling you god hates fhags.

now you might think, 'well, I'd look at the situation logically and conclude that the people who told me all these hateful things are just idiots who have spent their lives in a bubble having no interaction with actual gay people. I'd probably conclude that their objections to gay marriage were based on hatred and ignorance'....but again, you have to dumb yourself down quite a bit...you might need to jump off your roof head first or take a couple chugs from the bottles under the sink.


Alright I'll do that, is there some way that we could meet up so you could watch this, or should i do some kind of webcast? Or perhaps you could kill me yourself since suicide is a sin which you are encouraging either way let me know. But that really doesn't answer much. What harm is it that there should be laws against allowing adults to enter into a contract with each other? No need to force churches to perform the ceremonies or anything like that. As far as their point of view if they do not like it or agree to it, they shouldn't do it themselves.
 
2012-11-12 09:59:38 AM  

poorcku: Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?

I am already sold on the whole issure: i am all for gay marriage only if the right to discriminate of private institutions stays in place - the churches not forced to give babys for adoption / and not being forced to marry gay couples, etc, etc.

The state however should and must give them the same respect and rights a heterosexual couple has.


I disagree. That's a life - and for an institution that claims to be "pro-" that, they should do anything they can to make sure kids have families. Hide behind bigotries all you want when it's your flock. Don't subject kids to another week, month, year in an orphanage (I know we don't have Oliver Twist-types anymore) just because Rob and Dave - who make more than Sally and Steve, and live in a better school district and are here this week as opposed to 9 weeks from now - sleep with each other above your protestations.

I hope someone starts filing ex partes on behalf of kids languishing because the church doesn't like the inexorable forces of social change.
 
2012-11-12 10:00:57 AM  

poorcku: Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?

I am already sold on the whole issure: i am all for gay marriage only if the right to discriminate of private institutions stays in place - the churches not forced to give babys for adoption / and not being forced to marry gay couples, etc, etc.

The state however should and must give them the same respect and rights a heterosexual couple has.


Exactly what I think, let the churches do their thing, and the government handle the legal side.
 
2012-11-12 10:01:23 AM  
You can often find comfort in the very book they use to justify their bigotry/hate/intolerance...

"But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves."

/Jude 1:10
//context?
///before you throw that in my face know that context is a two-way-street.
 
2012-11-12 10:04:26 AM  

Tymast: What harm is it that there should be laws against allowing adults to enter into a contract with each other? No need to force churches to perform the ceremonies or anything like that. As far as their point of view if they do not like it or agree to it, they shouldn't do it themselves.


well that was kinda my point, there really is no actual harm unless you buy into the idea that it angers GOD.
that's what if boils down to for the opponents.

I don't care for the idea of forcing churches to accept it either...that's not necessary.
 
2012-11-12 10:07:15 AM  

ShamWowofDamocles: You can often find comfort in the very book they use to justify their bigotry/hate/intolerance...

"But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves."

/Jude 1:10
//context?
///before you throw that in my face know that context is a two-way-street.


Sadly far too many use the Bible as a way to justify hate and anger they have towards others. One of the biggest reasons i lost my faith, being attacked because I don't take that approach.
 
2012-11-12 10:08:30 AM  

Dr Dreidel: I disagree. That's a life - and for an institution that claims to be "pro-" that, they should do anything they can to make sure kids have families. Hide behind bigotries all you want when it's your flock. Don't subject kids to another week, month, year in an orphanage (I know we don't have Oliver Twist-types anymore) just because Rob and Dave - who make more than Sally and Steve, and live in a better school district and are here this week as opposed to 9 weeks from now - sleep with each other above your protestations.

I hope someone starts filing ex partes on behalf of kids languishing because the church doesn't like the inexorable forces of social change.


I don't care what kind of personal vendetta you have with the church. The right to choose must remain untouchable. Even if your small little world cannot encompass other points of view. Those children were given up for adoption by their parents and entrusted to the church. If we are going to have a separation of church and state, we must do it right: It is not you child, it is not your call, it is not your church. Butt out.
 
2012-11-12 10:12:52 AM  

Tymast: poorcku: Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?

I am already sold on the whole issure: i am all for gay marriage only if the right to discriminate of private institutions stays in place - the churches not forced to give babys for adoption / and not being forced to marry gay couples, etc, etc.

The state however should and must give them the same respect and rights a heterosexual couple has.

Exactly what I think, let the churches do their thing, and the government handle the legal side.


I could see such an arrangement working. However, I don't think resistance to gay marriage is truly over allowing homosexuals into said 'religious' institution. It's about the rights that come along with that, and the bigotry that fuels the desire to prevent gays from having those same rights as straights. Religious arguments against it are just a convenient excuse.

If you were to completely remove the 'marriage' title from the list of rights granted by the state upon marriage and rename the institution to 'civil union,' thereby allowing churches to marry who they like and deny those they don't, you'd still have the same anti-gay bigots trying to prevent gays from being granted access to civil unions. For example, the current arguments being formed against gay marriage that are heading to the supreme court are supposedly secular ones.
 
2012-11-12 10:13:03 AM  

Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?


What you have to understand is that many of the people most opposed to gay marriage have NEVER actually met a gay person. Well, an out-of-the-closet gay. Or like Michele Bachmann, they have a gay relative, but they immediately severed all ties to them.

Then they're repeatedly told that gays are all baby-raping pedophiles, that they all want to corrupt their kids into the gay lifestyle. They think gays get off work, then immediately go to a bathhouse for an orgy everyday just like they themselves might go to the bar and have a beer on the way home. They drink in this bullshiat they hear from their preacher, from talk radio, and from FoxNews - and they never actually encounter evidence that it's just a pile of crap.

See also: Muslims who want to take over America, creeping sharia, moral abortions, voter ID, and most arguments involving hispanics or black people.
 
2012-11-12 10:14:19 AM  

mrshowrules: Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of? It isn't that i am unaware of "it's what the bible says" but there are plenty of things in the bible that openly ignored every day, pretty sure many of us are wearing blended materials right now and bacon is cheered on as if it is a national treasure. So what is the measurable harm done that requires such an outcry?

Because they are destroying the sanctity of marriages like this:

[media.tumblr.com image 425x293]


Oh for fark's sake.

How the hell did Marcus let her out of the house wearing that?!? it makes her tits look....it makes her look her age, how does that sound?
 
2012-11-12 10:15:45 AM  

poorcku: Dr Dreidel: I disagree. That's a life - and for an institution that claims to be "pro-" that, they should do anything they can to make sure kids have families. Hide behind bigotries all you want when it's your flock. Don't subject kids to another week, month, year in an orphanage (I know we don't have Oliver Twist-types anymore) just because Rob and Dave - who make more than Sally and Steve, and live in a better school district and are here this week as opposed to 9 weeks from now - sleep with each other above your protestations.

I hope someone starts filing ex partes on behalf of kids languishing because the church doesn't like the inexorable forces of social change.

I don't care what kind of personal vendetta you have with the church. The right to choose must remain untouchable. Even if your small little world cannot encompass other points of view. Those children were given up for adoption by their parents and entrusted to the church. If we are going to have a separation of church and state, we must do it right: It is not you child, it is not your call, it is not your church. Butt out.


It's not the church's child, either. The church didn't conceive it, they didn't bear it, and it's only because someone else decided they can't raise it that the church has the kid in the first place.

And how about the child's choice? The child - who has no religion, whatever you think of gayness or belief - deserves a chance at a stable life. When a couple comes along who wants to give it to them, why does the church's stance on gayness override what everyone else knows to be common sense (and scientific fact, to boot)? That child isn't the church's property. It is not a piece of churchmeat for them to project their own prejudices and biases on - that's for the next set of loving parents to do.

I have no vendetta against churches. Social justice and charity organizations are A-OK in my book, right up until the point where the dogma runs over their karma. To me, the child's chance at a stable life outweighs whatever petty moralistic bullshiat the church spews this week.

// I have a problem with dogmas, not religions
// religions have to live in the same world as the rest of us
// and FWIW, most of the religious people I know seem to do that just fine
 
2012-11-12 10:16:35 AM  

poorcku: . If we are going to have a separation of church and state, we must do it right:


no one has ever suggested forcing catholic/other churches to do what they wouldn't want to do - what has actually happened is that they've been told that getting continued funding is contingent on doing what they don't want.

i'm all for the separation of church and state, but don't pretend that the seperation exists where it doesn't - you don't get to take the states money, then pretend that separation appears the moment the check is cashed.
 
2012-11-12 10:18:43 AM  

Tymast: I still don't get what exactly is the problem with gay marriage, is there actual harm caused by it that I am ignorant of?


Legal recognition of same-sex unions causes no actual harm to society. Ironically, that lack of societal harm is the source of the harm that it does cause: the lack of resultant harm exposes those who have emphatically opposed legal recognition of such unions as liars. When same-sex unions were legalized in Canada, society failed to collapse, and thus those who predicted negative consequences lost credibility and political power. Similar results occurred in Massachusetts and will likely now be observed in Iowa, New Hampshire, Vermont and several other states.

Opposition to same-sex marriage is presented as an effort to protect families, but as same-sex marriage is enacted and families are not harmed by it, the reality that the opposition is actually an effort to cling to political power by preventing the exposure of dishonesty will become more and more evident. A similar phenomenon has already been observed with enactment of, and opposition to, shall-issue based concealed weapons permit systems.
 
2012-11-12 10:22:05 AM  

Dr Dreidel: I have no vendetta against churches. Social justice and charity organizations are A-OK in my book, right up until the point where the dogma runs over their karma.


I have no vendetta against churches. Social justice and charity organizations are A-OK in my book, right up until the point where THEIR AND NOT MY dogma runs over their karma.

/Fixed that for you, intolerant bigot.
// You don't want people to have a right to chose, whom to entrust their children, etc; you have a problem with people not doing the things you would like them to do. That is a big difference.
 
2012-11-12 10:24:18 AM  

Karac: What you have to understand is that many of the people most opposed to gay marriage have NEVER actually met a gay person. Well, an out-of-the-closet gay. Or like Michele Bachmann, they have a gay relative, but they immediately severed all ties to them.


At what time did Representative Bachmann file for divorce?
 
2012-11-12 10:27:00 AM  

heap: no one has ever suggested forcing catholic/other churches to do what they wouldn't want to do


Unfortunately, not so.
 
2012-11-12 10:27:55 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Hunter_Worthington: Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?

I'm not clear on what could possibly be more important than saving our cities from God's wrath via fire and brimstone. Coddling gayosexuals is a national security issue.


I suspect what you're not clear on could fill several books.

CheapEngineer: Cythraul: Hunter_Worthington: How hard is it to say "gay marriage is nonsense."?

Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?

Did the housing market and unemployment situations wrap themselves up while I was sleeping?

I know math is hard, and Economics scary, but please people, stop eating the red meat your parties are throwing out there to distract you from their lack of spine, cluelessness, or -in the case of the GOP- utterly bat shiat crazy insane policies that are completely inappropriate for the current situation.

Please, for the good of the nation.

I'm so glad I have you fark favorited as 'homophobe / bigot,' in a nice bright yellow. That way, I can just let other Farkers deal with you.

I use light red (for readibility), and have 'Gay-marriage denying self-important Douchebag'.

It's a bit verbose, but reasonably accurate.


Ah, but enough about yourself.

mcwehrle: CheapEngineer: Cythraul: Hunter_Worthington: How hard is it to say "gay marriage is nonsense."?

Now, I know there are plenty of people out there who don't understand this, look how many people read Thomas Friedman, but come on, don't we have actual issues to deal with in this country?

Did the housing market and unemployment situations wrap themselves up while I was sleeping?

I know math is hard, and Economics scary, but please people, stop eating the red meat your parties are throwing out there to distract you from their lack of spine, cluelessness, or -in the case of the GOP- utterly bat shiat crazy insane policies that are completely inappropriate for the current situation.

Please, for the good of the nation.

I'm so glad I have you fark favorited as 'homophobe / bigot,' in a nice bright yellow. That way, I can just let other Farkers deal with you.

I use light red (for readibility), and have 'Gay-marriage denying self-important Douchebag'.

It's a bit verbose, but reasonably accurate.

He/she/it is one of the few that has remained on my ignore list this long after election day.


I know you won't see this, but maybe some one will pass along the message: it may be comforting to associate yourself with like-minded individuals who tell you you're already right, and so you can take out all your frustrations and anxieties on some absent "other" to serve as an enemy for you tribe, but all you manage to do is make yourself look like a clown, or an ass, providing hours of amusement to everyone with enough brains to outwit a 5th grader.
 
2012-11-12 10:29:11 AM  

Dr Dreidel: And how about the child's choice? The child - who has no religion, whatever you think of gayness or belief - deserves a chance at a stable life.


The child has no choice nor should he, or else we would be having an army of children voting for President Ronald Mc Donald. Not a nice sight :)
 
2012-11-12 10:29:40 AM  

poorcku: Unfortunately, not so.


no, it's exactly as i described - the adoption 'agency' in question was taking state funding and operating on a state contract.

you don't get to take everybody's tax money (including those gay lilting dollars) and then be discriminatory with it. religion is not an exemption from this.
 
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