Callous: max_pooper: Lost Thought 00: No. Senators rarely get elected without prior political experience, and when they do they usually suck because they don't know how to work the system

You're right...

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Except you're not.

Except he is Derp.

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Maybe you could wait at least until she is sworn in before passing judgement on her effectiveness.

coeyagi:
Presidents with Harvard degrees

1. John Adams
2. John Quincy Adams
3. Rutherford B. Hayes
4. Theodore Roosevelt
5. Franklin D. Roosevelt
6. John F. Kennedy
7. George W. Bush
8. Barack Obama

Save for one item on that list, your argument is invalid retarded.

Why does everyone have to hate Hayes?

coeyagi: Aikidogamer: RexTalionis: Ashley Judd is a Phi Beta Kappa scholar (woot). She has a Masters in Public Administration from Harvard University. She's the global ambassador for the YouthAIDS NGO and is on the leadership board of the International Center for Research on Women.

So, she is a sorority girl, and that is supposed to make me want to vote for her?

/the Harvard thing isn't helping either. Seems like they make derpy politicians.

Presidents with Harvard degrees

1. John Adams
2. John Quincy Adams
3. Rutherford B. Hayes
4. Theodore Roosevelt
5. Franklin D. Roosevelt
6. John F. Kennedy
7. George W. Bush
8. Barack Obama

Save for one item on that list, your argument is invalid retarded.

John Adams was a little derpy his in day. He did sign into the law the Alien and Sedition Acts.

Rex Talionis:
Ashley Judd is a Phi Beta Kappa scholar (woot). She has a Masters in Public Administration from Harvard University. She's the global ambassador for the YouthAIDS NGO and is on the leadership board of the International Center for Research on Women.

She's also apparently pretty crazy and obnoxious to work with, not to mention a bit of a hypochondriac... give it a couple of weeks, the "I worked with Ashley Judd and she's nuts" stories are starting to come out pretty quick.

Callous: Except he is.

Wow, you must have just got back from the future. How could you know that she will suck? She has the potential to be in that office for a very long time. Kind of like another senator from that state.


From what I hear, even the turtle would be a step up from Scott Brown.

zobear: Aikidogamer: So, she is a sorority girl, and that is supposed to make me want to vote for her?

Nice work.

Thankyou.

RexTalionis: Lost Thought 00: No. Senators rarely get elected without prior political experience, and when they do they usually suck because they don't know how to work the system

Among other Senators without any real substantive prior political experience.

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Senator Al Franken - previously comedian and radio show host.

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Senator Bill Bradley - professional basketball player.

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Senator Ted Kennedy - his prior political experience consisted of working for his brother's presidential campaign.

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Senator Bill Frist - heart surgeon.

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Senator Orrin Hatch - lawyer.

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Senator Hillary Clinton - former First Lady and lawyer

Saying Kennedy and Clinton had no prior experience is about as disingenuous as you get. I'll grant you Hatch. Frist was terrible, don't know anything about Bradley, and the jury is still out on Franken

jimmyjackfunk: Hottest as in: "the one on fire"?

wouldn't vote for anyone who made the terrible choice to star in a movie about a roided up former rassler turned tooth fairy.

I'd imagine her artistic integrity suffocated under the heap of money she earned...

Lost Thought 00: Saying Kennedy and Clinton had no prior experience is about as disingenuous as you get. I'll grant you Hatch. Frist was terrible, don't know anything about Bradley, and the jury is still out on Franken

Considering the substance of this paragraph as well as the one on Humanitarian work on Judd's wiki, claiming she has no prior experience in politics is also disingenuous.

Scratch that.

It's a bold-faced lie.

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [i49.tinypic.com image 683x638]

And if she wins, you'll never see these again. (Click NSFW)

Those might get you elected on the West Coast but not in Kentucky. Won't hold up.

Sybarite: Wesley's girlfriend for senate!

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I submitted this with a Wil Wheaton headline 3 days ago. Whatever. :)

Lost Thought 00: No. Senators rarely get elected without prior political experience, and when they do they usually suck because they don't know how to work the system

you are absolutely 100% correct which is why the system is broke! Mitch absolutely knows how to work the system and to me that is what is sucky and not vice versa.

Unlike you, to me a senator who knows how to manipulate and 'work' the system is actually a negative not a positive.

Cythraul: Maybe I should have said, "And they're sure she's experienced enough and intelligent enough to do the farking job, how?"

There is no intelligence requirement. I thought that much was obvious.

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: And if she wins, you'll never see these again. (Click NSFW)

Which movie are those from?

And are they hers, or a double's?

RexTalionis: The Phi Beta Kappa Society, an academic honor society in the United States, has 280 chapters. It aims to promote and advocate excellence in the liberal arts and sciences, and induct the most outstanding students of arts and sciences at American colleges and universities.[1] Founded at The College of William and Mary on December 5, 1776, as the first collegiate Greek-letter fraternity, it is also the oldest honor society for the liberal arts and sciences and among the oldest undergraduate societies in the United States.[2] Phi Beta Kappa (ΦΒΚ) stands for Φιλοσοφία Βίου Κυβερνήτης or philosophia biou kybernētēs - "Love of learning is the guide of life".

All of which works against her if she runs as a Republican.

Y'know, I try to stay independent, vote for the person not the party, avoid sweeping generalizations... but the amount of kneejerk political derp ITT-- and the way it's been stuffed back in their faces like a basketball-- is just hilarious.

Do y'all seriously not see that you're what's wrong with the Republican Party today? Think before you speak! Real thinking, not O'Reilly parroting. Do even just a little research! Do you see how much egg is on your faces ITT simply because you couldn't Wikipedia the potential candidate? God forbid you get some independent facts before you jump in.

He doesn't, you know. Forbid it. God. Never mind, you're not listening anyway. Too busy formulating your response. Here, let ne help you: WHAAARRGARBLE.

SuperNinjaToad: Unlike you, to me a senator who knows how to manipulate and 'work' the system is actually a negative not a positive.

My Senator a positive, your Senator a negative.

ya know what, as a kentucky voter, I'd vote for her over obstruction turtle every day of the week and twice on sundays. would she be an effective politican for the people of kentucky (and NKY specifically, what I care about) maybe not, but would having turtle mcturtle out of office be better for the country? oh yes.

pciszek: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: And if she wins, you'll never see these again. (Click NSFW)

Which movie are those from?

And are they hers, or a double's?

A great view

coeyagi: Will anyone respect Ashley? Will she need to buy knee pads to get shiat done in the Senate?

Maybe if she asks kindly, Mitch will let her use his.

coeyagi: I mean, she won't be committing evil acts like McConnell, but will she be getting anything done?

0 > -1

At this point, having Mitch McConnell's seat vacant would be a blessing. If she could defeat him and then never show up, than would be fine.

coeyagi: I am kinda in the middle. Mitch knows the system which means he knows how to persuade people to do his bidding. i.e., commit evil acts upon the American people, like what he's done in blocking Obama the past 4 years. But he got his insidious plan sorta done. Will anyone respect Ashley? Will she need to buy knee pads to get shiat done in the Senate? I mean, she won't be committing evil acts like McConnell, but will she be getting anything done?

People are new to the Senate all the time. They learn how things are done from veteran members of their party and the other party. Then, as they get acclimated, they are given more responsibility within the house and the party itself. Novices rarely introduce much in the way of legislation, in the Senate that's not a big deal as they serve for six year terms. In the House, it's generally understood that rookie first term Congressmen are basically only there to be counted.

Not to mention that in addition to other Senators, she would have a full staff of people dedicated to assisting her, just like every other Senator, as well as the full weight of the larger party apparatus. Nobody shows up to the Hill without a clue as to their responsibilities and what is expected of them.

Bring me the Senator!

I've never liked Mitch, but to me, and anyone with a brain, his comments that he was only going to work towards preventing Obamafrom being reelected warrants a vote of no confidence. That's not you farking job, Mitch. Do your god damn job and quit acting like a little biatch. Oh wait, you can't. You've gotta go.

She's a nice gal. Long as she hasn't done any nudity in film...oh she has? Hmm, well as long as it was artistic...oh gratuitous sex too huh? Well is she planning on running in California or at least a liberal state? Kentucky? Um, yeah, don't see that working out. I don't think it would even be entertaining to watch.

SuperNinjaToad: Unlike you, to me a senator who knows how to manipulate and 'work' the system is actually a negative not a positive.

THIS.

Working the system means perpetuating the system.

Buggar: She's a nice gal. Long as she hasn't done any nudity in film...oh she has? Hmm, well as long as it was artistic...oh gratuitous sex too huh? Well is she planning on running in California or at least a liberal state? Kentucky? Um, yeah, don't see that working out. I don't think it would even be entertaining to watch.

Yeah, but she has a nice set of Judds.

She reminds me of Gretchen Moll.

Nightsweat: Buggar: She's a nice gal. Long as she hasn't done any nudity in film...oh she has? Hmm, well as long as it was artistic...oh gratuitous sex too huh? Well is she planning on running in California or at least a liberal state? Kentucky? Um, yeah, don't see that working out. I don't think it would even be entertaining to watch.

Yeah, but she has a nice set of Judds.

As well as other assets, wink wink.

max_pooper: Lost Thought 00: No. Senators rarely get elected without prior political experience, and when they do they usually suck because they don't know how to work the system

You're right...

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Except you're not.

Elected- not stealing votes. l

McConnell is already a RINO, so what difference could it make?

StoPPeRmobile: She reminds me of Gretchen Moll.

 

What are you talking about, their eyes are a completely different color.

McConnell is in no danger from Ashley Judd. He is in danger from a Tea Party opponent in the primary, though.

Who would go on to defeat Ashley Judd. Really, the dems tried this crap when they ran George Clooney's dad a few years ago in my district.

Morena is the Ashley Judd 2.0

/the reason I watch Homeland

Not_Todd: McConnell is in no danger from Ashley Judd. He is in danger from a Tea Party opponent in the primary, though.

Who would go on to defeat Ashley Judd. Really, the dems tried this crap when they ran George Clooney's dad a few years ago in my district.

Nick Clooney actually had the cleanest political ads I've seen in some time. One I remember was just him saying three things he believed Kentucky needed and that he wanted to work on. I thought it was classy. Tired of attack ads.

Buggar: StoPPeRmobile: She reminds me of Gretchen Moll.

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What are you talking about, their eyes are a completely different color.

They have eyes?

I voted for Nick Clooney :) and I've voted against McConnell every time, still have my "Ditch Mitch" yard sign. I'd vote for an actual turtle over him, couldn't be any worse.

Cythraul: beyondmycontrol: Cythraul: And she's qualified, how? I guess if Arnold and Ronald can do it, why not her?


Maybe I should have said, "And they're sure she's experienced enough and intelligent enough to do the farking job, how?"

RexTalionis: Ashley Judd is a Phi Beta Kappa scholar (woot). She has a Masters in Public Administration from Harvard University. She's the global ambassador for the YouthAIDS NGO and is on the leadership board of the International Center for Research on Women.


Maybe you missed that part. Since she's 40-something, that means she got her Masters from Harvard when a college degree still actually meant something and one from Harvard meant a great deal more than one from the University of Kentucky. If you doubt her intelligence as it pertains to her ability to do the job... 17 Presidents, 37 Supreme Court Justices, and 136 Nobel Laureates have been members of Phi Beta Kappa, so I'm reasonably sure the woman is qualified on the basis of intelligence.

In terms of experience, honestly, do we really want experienced politicians in the United States Senate any more? Experienced Senators and Congressmen on both sides have prevented budgets from being passed, obstructed legislation because their party didn't propose it, and so on. We've had experienced members of congress refuse to pass good legislation simply because they do not want the President or the other party to succeed. Maybe replacing those members with intelligent people who may be capable of displaying common sense if given the opportunity to do so isn't the worst possible thing Americans could do. Congress is a two year term, Senate a six year term - it's not like they can break the country's legislative process any more than it already is in that period of time.

Clooney certainly isn't the slimeball Al Franken is, but he's still way to the left of the people he wanted to represent. That's why he lost and that's why Judd would lose.

It'd be nice if somebody would do something about Mitch McConnell anytime.

I'm so sick of party politics allowing the voters of Ohio's 6th Congressional District to dictate our national legislative agenda, while Kentucky functionally gets the goddam veto on par with the President of the United States.

farking political parties. You don't own our government, you assholes!

smitty04: pciszek: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: And if she wins, you'll never see these again. (Click NSFW)

Which movie are those from?

And are they hers, or a double's?

A great view

I just voted. Twice. Tired now.