Wrencher: Why does anyone listen to Senator Palpatine's minions anymore?
mamoru: Wrencher: Why does anyone listen to Senator Palpatine's minions anymore?Because fear will keep the local systems in line! Fear and surprise. The two things that will keep the local systems in line are fear and surprise and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope are the three things that... Amongst the things that will keep the local systems in line are.../We apologize for the fault in the pop culture references. Those responsible have been sacked.
simplicimus: What part of the Vow of Chastity do you not understand?
simplicimus: Once more, Vow of Chastity means no sex, Vow of Celibacy means no marriage, For a cleric, violation of either should result in defrocking and excommunication. But apparently the Church doesn't play by their own rules.
namegoeshere: It's not just him being ancient, though. Look at his eyes. He has dead eyes. Soul-devouring dead thing eyes.
Saruman_W: Humanity's already on it's way down the shiathole so approval for crap like this doesn't surprise me anymore.
SilentStrider: SilentStrider: Do us a favor. Atp worrying about gay marriage and start focussing on the things Jesus actually gave a damn about. Like helping the poor and healing the sick.Atp? Really? I typed stop, and got atp?
Weaver95: simplicimus:I do. I no longer buy into the "Christian" crap, if Mormons are now Christians . I'm Catholic, not Christian, and my Church's hierarchy has abandoned its mission. "Free will" is a Catholic tenet, and if you get an abortion, use birth control or get gay married, that's between you and God. Christ never told us to outlaw sin, just told us to forgive the sinner.i'm starting to wonder if the pagans have it right - there's more than ONE god out there and they all might be equally valid. meh - like I said, so long as it stays non-violent it's all good.
The Southern Dandy: fluffy2097: simplicimus: Once more, Vow of Chastity means no sex, Vow of Celibacy means no marriage, For a cleric, violation of either should result in defrocking and excommunication. But apparently the Church doesn't play by their own rules.The rules say you can only have sex while married.Therefore raping children you are not married to is not sex.It's not hard logic to follow.It is "Illegitimate rape" so to speak?
hubiestubert: Perhaps the Vatican should worry about Rome, and not what folks who aren't Catholic are doing.That's the issue. Not Catholics. Buddhists. Pagans. Methodists. Lutherans. Unitarians--you know, some of the folks the Catholics ran a Crusade against before they rolled on Jerusalem. The Vatican should worry about what Catholics are doing, and deal with them, and maybe leave governing of a nation that ISN'T Catholic alone. Especially one that is based upon the separation of church and state...While they're at it, they might want to look a little harder at how their priests are acting within their own churches. Tend to your own knitting. When Bishops aren't moving priests around to keep sexual predators hidden, maybe then they can take a stab at telling folks what is moral or not...
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