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2012-11-11 06:08:10 PM
You're a Commie and you kiss your Mother with that mouth. (anticipated reaction)

Spot on Subby, when will our "leaders" get a clue?
 
2012-11-11 06:22:35 PM

Equilibrist: You're a Commie and you kiss your Mother with that mouth. (anticipated reaction)

Spot on Subby, when will our "leaders" get a clue?


When it benefits them to have one.
 
2012-11-11 06:38:12 PM
oneutah.org
 
2012-11-11 06:43:35 PM
Algore.

Q.E.D.
 
2012-11-11 06:50:09 PM
I can't believe all those Republicans could be so wrong.
 
2012-11-11 07:01:06 PM
Huh. I wonder what might have started a couple million years ago that could maybe be ending?
 
2012-11-11 07:06:04 PM

RobertBruce: Huh. I wonder what might have started a couple million years ago that could maybe be ending?


Civilization?
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-11-11 07:11:55 PM
Yeah, what a douche. He raised millions for charity. BUT OH NO, HE CHEATED IN A BIKE RACE.
 
2012-11-11 07:19:49 PM
They can prove it, CBS has a fax that supports it.
 
2012-11-11 07:21:36 PM

MBK: Yeah, what a douche. He raised millions for charity. BUT OH NO, HE CHEATED IN A BIKE RACE.


And I'm not even sure he did. It's entirely possible, but it's also possible that they couldn't find any evidence for him, so they threatened his teammates until they threw him under the bus. I'm not a Lance Armstrong fan, and I may be wrong, but it seems like this is just an excuse to fark him over now that they don't need him anymore.
 
2012-11-11 07:22:11 PM

MBK: Yeah, what a douche. He raised millions for charity. BUT OH NO, HE CHEATED IN A BIKE RACE.


I think we're both in the wrong thread...oops.
 
2012-11-11 07:29:43 PM
The question is, can we really believe the evidence given to us by those so-called "professionals" who study this stuff all their lives? I mean, they certainly seem convinced Lance is guilty.
 
2012-11-11 07:34:33 PM
The entire theory that yellow jerseys lead to climate change is complete hogwash.
 
2012-11-11 07:40:40 PM

Confabulat: The question is, can we really believe the evidence given to us by those so-called "professionals" who study this stuff all their lives? I mean, they certainly seem convinced Lance is guilty.


The only people saying Lance doped are "scientists" paid by the tobacco companies wanting to legalize their crap and sell it to minors as a health food.
 
2012-11-11 07:48:45 PM
Geek Tab.

"Finally".

[clicks].

WHAT THE F--K WHY IS THIS NOT ABOUT HOVERCARS?

/I really thought it was gonna be about hovercars
//I don't know why, I just did, dammit
 
2012-11-11 08:16:08 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Geek Tab.

"Finally".

[clicks].

WHAT THE F--K WHY IS THIS NOT ABOUT HOVERCARS?

/I really thought it was gonna be about hovercars
//I don't know why, I just did, dammit


But I don't like eels.

/even if they win the Tour de France
 
2012-11-11 08:23:20 PM
Bianca Boskers? More like Bianca Boink-her, amirite?
 
2012-11-11 08:23:25 PM
Is Lance a pirate? Yes, no? Either way the answer does affect global climate change.
 
2012-11-11 08:25:11 PM
img254.imageshack.us
/what the environment might look like
 
2012-11-11 08:32:24 PM
Hey, The Pope, is God Real?
 
2012-11-11 08:38:48 PM
Pic of this thread:

lh5.ggpht.com
 
2012-11-11 08:40:23 PM
So if human action is actually affecting climate change to the degree that these professionals want us to believe then why do these Professionals disagree?
Maybe becouse they study the cause and don't jump to conclusions.
 
2012-11-11 08:40:27 PM
Does Lootie know how famous he is? He could probably make enough money to buy his own beer the proper way if he capitalized on said fame.
 
2012-11-11 08:43:26 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Geek Tab.

"Finally".

[clicks].

WHAT THE F--K WHY IS THIS NOT ABOUT HOVERCARS?

/I really thought it was gonna be about hovercars
//I don't know why, I just did, dammit


I figured "Finally" might refer to the fact that the entire cast of Firefly is back together on TV tonight.
 
2012-11-11 08:45:15 PM
You've got the scientists going "Burning fossil fuels heats the atmosphere. Record temperatures. Extreme weather!"

No.
 
2012-11-11 08:49:16 PM

WRXminion: So if human action is actually affecting climate change to the degree that these professionals want us to believe then why do these Professionals disagree?
Maybe becouse they study the cause and don't jump to conclusions.


Perhaps you should read your link before derping.
 
2012-11-11 08:51:58 PM

NeoCortex42: I figured "Finally" might refer to the fact that the entire cast of Firefly is back together on TV tonight.


So the Science Channel is accomplishing more than CBS's investigative reporters.
 
2012-11-11 08:53:34 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Geek Tab.

"Finally".

[clicks].

WHAT THE F--K WHY IS THIS NOT ABOUT HOVERCARS?

/I really thought it was gonna be about hovercars
//I don't know why, I just did, dammit


You weren't the only one. Wanna grab a drink somewhere?
 
2012-11-11 08:57:15 PM
I still think our best use of money is for finding ways to deal with the changing climate instead of just energy efficiency. Even if we reduce our energy use by 50% the earths population is on it's way to 11 billion, developing countries like Brazil, India, and China have millions of people coming out of poverty using more energy, and at some point the people in Africa are going to make some progress and start actually using energy and having a middle class instead of slaughtering each other. So global energy usage is not going down without a ton of cutbacks that we have seen the population isn't willing to make. People adopt energy efficiency when they have incentives, usually cost savings, not when it is an inconvenience. Sure we can cut some energy usage, especially with things like building insulation and fuel mileage, but it won't be enough to stop growth in global energy usage. Get used to it people, the earth will be a warmer place for the next century.
 
2012-11-11 08:58:21 PM

WRXminion: So if human action is actually affecting climate change to the degree that these professionals want us to believe then why do these Professionals disagree?
Maybe becouse they study the cause and don't jump to conclusions.



From the graph in the linked article (note, anthropogenic means "caused by humans", just in case you missed that):

Global volcanic emissions (highest preferred estimate) 0.26
Anthropogenic CO2 in 2010 (projected) 35.0
Light-duty vehicles (cars/trucks) 3.0
Approximately 24 1000-megawatt coal-fired power stations * 0.22
Argentina 0.20
Pakistan 0.18
Saudi Arabia 0.44
 
2012-11-11 09:00:31 PM
There is nothing scientific about "truth." "Truth" is inherently the result of propaganda. That said, when scientific evidence indicates we are causing a step change to our life support system, possibly destabilizing it, action needs to be taken. The stakes are too high to rely upon the decision making capabilities of mental children who still believe in truths like Santa Claus.
 
2012-11-11 09:00:35 PM

vossiewulf: Pic of this thread:

[lh5.ggpht.com image 500x371]


Actually it seems to be going far better than usual so far.
 
2012-11-11 09:01:14 PM

RedPhoenix122: RobertBruce: Huh. I wonder what might have started a couple million years ago that could maybe be ending?

Civilization?


nah nah. civiliation has only been around a few thousand years.
 
2012-11-11 09:06:42 PM
FTA: "All of those bottles from around the world get shipped to labs which analyze the gases inside."

Wonder what the carbon footprint of that is...

/bahaha
 
2012-11-11 09:07:02 PM
The rate of increase of CO2 then was on average .02 parts per million per year. And now it's 2 PPM a year. So what we're now having is a 100 times as fast as what was happening during these natural cycles.

Oh what a BS argument. So typical of the alarmist agenda. They are comparing a long term average derived from one measurement to a short term average of single measurements. They haven't been told about statistical methods?
 
2012-11-11 09:07:19 PM
Ha, I just watched that on DVR. I'm glad this stuff's being talked about again. I guess they've clammed up in the last year because election season.
 
2012-11-11 09:09:52 PM

WRXminion: So if human action is actually affecting climate change to the degree that these professionals want us to believe then why do these Professionals disagree?


Your link disagrees with what you are implying.

Somewhere I read that the recent Iceland volcano eruption that shut down air-traffic actually decreased the CO2 in the air. The carbon added by the volcano was less than the carbon the downed planes would have added.
 
2012-11-11 09:12:14 PM
Why the fark is that on seven goddamn pages?
 
2012-11-11 09:12:26 PM

WRXminion: So if human action is actually affecting climate change to the degree that these professionals want us to believe then why do these Professionals disagree?
Maybe becouse they study the cause and don't jump to conclusions.


From your link:

Volcanic versus anthropogenic CO2 emissions

Do the Earth's volcanoes emit more CO2 than human activities? Research findings indicate that the answer to this frequently asked question is a clear and unequivocal, "No." Human activities, responsible for a projected 35 billion metric tons (gigatons) of CO2 emissions in 2010 (Friedlingstein et al., 2010), release an amount of CO2 that dwarfs the annual CO2 emissions of all the world's degassing subaerial and submarine volcanoes (Gerlach, 2011).
 
2012-11-11 09:12:56 PM
The science is not controversial. The politics of reacting (or not) to the science is controversial.

The solution is to silence the scientific community by any means necessary.
 
2012-11-11 09:16:23 PM

WRXminion: So if human action is actually affecting climate change to the degree that these professionals want us to believe then why do these Professionals disagree?
Maybe becouse they study the cause and don't jump to conclusions.


Since volcanoes are pouring one source of heat into the atmosphere and that is known to cause climate change, that pretty much proves that pouring other sources of heat into the atmosphere does not cause climate change. I mean obviously, if someone punched me in the head and it hurt, that means that punching me in the balls doesn't hurt at all. Obviously. There really can be only one cause, after all, right?

(Seriously, that's how what you just said sound to the rest of us. Think about it.)
 
2012-11-11 09:18:23 PM

FloydA: WRXminion: So if human action is actually affecting climate change to the degree that these professionals want us to believe then why do these Professionals disagree?
Maybe becouse they study the cause and don't jump to conclusions.

Since volcanoes are pouring one source of heat into the atmosphere and that is known to cause climate change, that pretty much proves that pouring other sources of heat into the atmosphere does not cause climate change. I mean obviously, if someone punched me in the head and it hurt, that means that punching me in the balls doesn't hurt at all. Obviously. There really can be only one cause, after all, right?

(Seriously, that's how what you just said sound to the rest of us. Think about it.)


Thank you for that.
 
2012-11-11 09:37:44 PM

FloydA: (Seriously, that's how what you just said sound to the rest of us. Think about it.)


You're pissing up a tree here. The people at this point who still don't get it are unequivocally stupid and ill-informed, and will fight to the bitter end to remain that way. When the bitter end arrives, they will revise history, claim it was the democraps who were the real ones not acting on climate change, and then pick a new subject to be stupid, ill-informed, and loud about. So the cycle of progress goes.
 
2012-11-11 09:39:07 PM
i1115.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-11 09:40:40 PM

MBK: Yeah, what a douche. He raised millions for charity. BUT OH NO, HE CHEATED IN A BIKE RACE.


I just thought of Al Gore on one of those tiny little trikes basically throwing little kids into the ground in order to win in a charity bike race.
 
2012-11-11 10:41:07 PM

Ambivalence: RedPhoenix122: RobertBruce: Huh. I wonder what might have started a couple million years ago that could maybe be ending?

Civilization?

nah nah. civiliation has only been around a few thousand years.


Oh well, I can still hope it ends.
 
2012-11-11 10:44:40 PM

RedPhoenix122: RobertBruce: Huh. I wonder what might have started a couple million years ago that could maybe be ending?

Civilization?


Hey, man, I can blame lots of people for this problem, but I think Sid Meier is innocent.
 
2012-11-11 11:11:54 PM
The rate of increase of CO2 then was on average .02 parts per million per year. And now it's 2 PPM a year. So what we're now having is a 100 times as fast as what was happening during these natural cycles.

Oh what a BS argument. So typical of the alarmist agenda. They are comparing a long term average derived from one measurement to a short term average of single measurements. They haven't been told about statistical methods?


The article I read said nothing about the averaging methods, so I don't know where you are getting this. In general a scientist will not compare two averages unless they are taken in the same manner or otherwise statistically proven to be comparable (ie 95% confidence levels).
 
2012-11-11 11:20:39 PM
I LOL'ed
 
2012-11-11 11:29:39 PM
IPCC is an inherently biased source, it's right in the name. Dont get me wrong, climate change is happening, but humans barely have anything to do with it. Our arrogance makes us think it is. CO2 isnt the bogeyman we make it out to be, or Mars (which has far more atmospheric CO2 by weight and volume) should be roasting. The "hockey stick" that CO2 creates doesnt turn up, it flattens out. People want to scare you, but the end of the world is a long, long way out.
 
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