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2012-11-11 06:56:16 PM
Not sure why that makes him a douche. I'd say it's a fitting fark you to the ICU.
 
2012-11-11 06:59:00 PM

RoyBatty: Not sure why that makes him a douche. I'd say it's a fitting fark you to the ICU.


Yeah, that kind of statement takes a lot of ball.
 
2012-11-11 07:02:03 PM
Go nut
 
2012-11-11 07:43:31 PM
I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.
 
2012-11-11 07:50:05 PM

RoyBatty: Not sure why that makes him a douche. I'd say it's a fitting fark you to the ICU.


I'd like it if he'd at least acknowledge he cheated. Sure, he can use the argument that everyone else was, too (everyone else was), but his insistence that he hasn't done anything wrong is a little off-putting.
 
2012-11-11 07:59:39 PM
MEH!
 
2012-11-11 08:06:14 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.


Yah but that's not HUMAN potential, that's drug potential. I think people want athletes that strain the boundaries of human potential, not find shortcuts to beat athletes that are naturally better.
 
2012-11-11 08:11:45 PM
www.mostlyuseless.info
 
2012-11-11 08:15:14 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.


i.imgur.com

Link
 
2012-11-11 08:19:34 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.


Pretty much this - everyone uses drugs - 100% of farkers use dopamine when they rub one out in their basement sex dungeons. How is this any different?
 
2012-11-11 08:37:21 PM
I just don't care.
 
2012-11-11 09:11:16 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.


Can't set a bad example for the hero-worshipping children, that's all.
 
2012-11-11 09:28:28 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.


Hear, hear.
 
2012-11-11 09:43:41 PM
Atleast he's found a way to still have a ball with all of this.
 
2012-11-11 10:07:48 PM
I can't believe the derpy Yahoo commenters saying it was 'hearsay' evidence. I thought most people figured that one out already.
 
2012-11-11 10:17:31 PM

BarkingUnicorn: ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.

Can't set a bad example for the hero-worshipping children, that's all.


Not just that, but think of the mindset that in order to well in any sport you need to partake in these drugs, hell let's take it a step further and say that great athletes must be born through specific genetic sequencing giving them the most desirable attributes to do well in a particular sport.

Personally I think sports need to take a step back from just caring about winning/winners. Does that mean we should give trophies to teams that come in dead last? No, but I think there should be a greater emphasis on sportsmanship and simply partaking in the sport the way it was meant to be played/done.
 
2012-11-11 10:18:24 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.


Someone beat me to the All Drug Olympics sketch. But how about this; what if you'd like to compete at a top level, but do not want to use dangerous drugs? It seems that at least some top American cyclists dropped out of the sport when confronted with the choice of doping to be competitive, or giving up on professional cycling.
 
2012-11-11 10:25:43 PM

Ambivalence: ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.

Yah but that's not HUMAN potential, that's drug potential. I think people want athletes that strain the boundaries of human potential, not find shortcuts to beat athletes that are naturally better.


Bullshiat. People wanna see amazing things. Remember McGwire and Sosa?
 
2012-11-11 10:25:56 PM
As stated in the comments:

Lanced doped and won.

Everyone else doped and lost.

Thus then, shouldn't Lance still be the winner?


No matter what, Lance's image still raised MILLIONS of dollars for cancer research. What has Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, etc. done in that regard?
 
2012-11-11 10:27:31 PM
He admits to lying... around the house.
 
2012-11-11 10:31:55 PM

MattyFridays: As stated in the comments:

Lanced doped and won.

Everyone else doped and lost.

Thus then, shouldn't Lance still be the winner?


No matter what, Lance's image still raised MILLIONS of dollars for cancer research. What has Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, etc. done in that regard?


But not everyone doped though, while a wide amount of racers did, there are still some clean ones. People complain and go "well, sure, the 15th rider was clean but he was all the way in 15th". You eliminate the systematic doping system from the Lance group and all the other cheaters and maybe the guys down in 15-30 who were clean end up winning now that they aren't at a disadvantage.
 
2012-11-11 10:36:03 PM

MattyFridays: As stated in the comments:

Lanced doped and won.

Everyone else doped and lost.

Thus then, shouldn't Lance still be the winner?


No matter what, Lance's image still raised MILLIONS of dollars for cancer research. What has Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, etc. done in that regard?


Cancer AWARENESS. Livestrong doesn't give money for research.
 
2012-11-11 10:39:14 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.


So you think that, in order to accomplish anything, you should have to risk your life? And if you don't, you don't deserve to be among the very best in your sport? Just have to accept that the life-riskers are going to win, and encourage millions of kids to be life-riskers just like the winners.
 
2012-11-11 10:43:38 PM
South Park did it!
 
2012-11-11 10:52:35 PM
The vast majority of pro athletes are all juicing.

But the Lance defenders saying he is innocent are ridiculously stupid.
 
2012-11-11 10:57:52 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.


That might be interesting. Most of the big names in cycling are already doping. Just admit it, make the courses tough as hell, and see what happens. I say let em' race up Pike's Peak.
 
2012-11-11 11:04:02 PM

LegacyDL: Personally I think sports need to take a step back from just caring about winning/winners. Does that mean we should give trophies to teams that come in dead last? No, but I think there should be a greater emphasis on sportsmanship and simply partaking in the sport the way it was meant to be played/done.


No more "championships". We need "good job, good effort" flags for those who do their best.
Who's with us on this?
 
2012-11-11 11:34:25 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-11 11:51:10 PM

iron_city_ap: ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.

That might be interesting. Most of the big names in cycling are already doping. Just admit it, make the courses tough as hell, and see what happens. I say let em' race up Pike's Peak.


Pike's Peak is a short fun climb for a decent cyclist, nevermind a competitive one. Have them do it 5 times in a single day and that might be something.
 
2012-11-11 11:51:40 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.


The human condition is precisely what makes sports interesting. (It's also the same reason that many people don't find basketball interesting, because it's very difficult for many people to relate or connect with a 6'9 black kid from the ghetto. I'd wager that most people who enjoy basketball enjoy it precisely because it's the closest thing sports has to a video game.) The only natural step on the road past "let them take whatever they want" is "let them use any mechanical or electronic augmentation they want", we just don't have the technology to do it yet. Once you allow technology to place everyone on an equal (or near-equal) playing field, the narrative of sports dies. I know that's a pretty steep look into the future, but if technology has that kind of impact on sports, it probably won't be the only thing that technology does to marginalize "individual exceptionalism".
 
2012-11-12 12:01:14 AM
Just shows, once again, Lance Armstrong is a humble man.
 
2012-11-12 12:13:00 AM

TheManofPA: MattyFridays: As stated in the comments:

Lanced doped and won.

Everyone else doped and lost.

Thus then, shouldn't Lance still be the winner?


No matter what, Lance's image still raised MILLIONS of dollars for cancer research. What has Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, etc. done in that regard?

But not everyone doped though, while a wide amount of racers did, there are still some clean ones. People complain and go "well, sure, the 15th rider was clean but he was all the way in 15th". You eliminate the systematic doping system from the Lance group and all the other cheaters and maybe the guys down in 15-30 who were clean end up winning now that they aren't at a disadvantage.


I'd be willing to bet that if the entire peloton was clean Lance still would have won
 
2012-11-12 12:13:01 AM

expobill: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x312]


Now now Expobill, Big Mig never tested postive.

Oh, wait.

No, nevermind, carry on.
 
2012-11-12 12:14:52 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers: I still don't understand the anti-doping sentiment that most of the sports world has. I think they should be able to use any drug at their disposal to push the limits of human strength and endurance. And if their kidneys, liver, heart, or other organs shut down as a result, then that's the price they pay for fame and fortune.


What I don't understand is the amount of shait that cycling gets about doping when it is cleaner than baseball or football.
 
2012-11-12 12:14:53 AM
I just want meticulous records kept so that we can all benefit from the scientific research these brave people do when experimenting on themselves.
Eventually we'll know the benefits and risks of various things that may be useful to the general public.
I'm pretty sure I need performance enhancement more than Lance does but I want decades of experimentation on (willing of course) human guinea pigs to help keep me strong enough to take care of myself when age would otherwise make me feeble.
They don't need to be elite athletes either, in fact it would be less useful if they all were. Let people from all walks of life risk their health for my eventual benefit juicing up to do things like play shuffle board better.
Freedom biatches! and if you can't take the risk stay out of the race.

//only mostly kidding
 
2012-11-12 12:20:41 AM
As I look at that photo, and it may be my very cheap computer monitor, it appears the couch Lance has is brown. It could potentially be black, but it's turning up as dark brown on my screen.

Just interesting because every stoner I've ever met has a dark brown couch. It's a sort of share-housing right of passage in Australia. It's thoroughly discussed in the finest book (in fact probably only book) written on the topic of Australian share-housing, John Birmingham's 'He Died With A Felaffel In His Hand'. An hilarious read well worth locating on Amazon. It's worth purchasing for the anecdote about the dude who woke up one day with an unnerving suspicion he'd taken a piss in the shared fridge the previous night alone. There was also a movie but it was shiat like most Australian movies.

Anyway, just saying. Lance might not have tested positive for drugs, but it appears he's tested postive for a brown couch.
 
2012-11-12 12:47:42 AM
What a jerk.

I'd like to slather Lance Armstrong in popcorn oil and slam his tight butt frogger style...
 
2012-11-12 12:54:30 AM

Aussie_As: As I look at that photo, and it may be my very cheap computer monitor, it appears the couch Lance has is brown. It could potentially be black, but it's turning up as dark brown on my screen.

Just interesting because every stoner I've ever met has a dark brown couch. It's a sort of share-housing right of passage in Australia. It's thoroughly discussed in the finest book (in fact probably only book) written on the topic of Australian share-housing, John Birmingham's 'He Died With A Felaffel In His Hand'. An hilarious read well worth locating on Amazon. It's worth purchasing for the anecdote about the dude who woke up one day with an unnerving suspicion he'd taken a piss in the shared fridge the previous night alone. There was also a movie but it was shiat like most Australian movies.

Anyway, just saying. Lance might not have tested positive for drugs, but it appears he's tested postive for a brown couch.


Really, twelve years on Fark and this is my favorite post ever.
 
2012-11-12 01:29:02 AM

mc_madness: What a jerk.

I'd like to slather Lance Armstrong in popcorn oil and slam his tight butt frogger style...


Interesting.
 
2012-11-12 01:30:34 AM

Aussie_As: expobill: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x312]

Now now Expobill, Big Mig never tested postive.

Oh, wait.

No, nevermind, carry on.


i own a banesto and blog movistar cycling info.
 
2012-11-12 01:33:20 AM
I can see the submitter is still a little jealous that Lance beat him in that one bike race they competed in.
 
2012-11-12 01:33:55 AM

Pray 4 Mojo: mc_madness: What a jerk.

I'd like to slather Lance Armstrong in popcorn oil and slam his tight butt frogger style...

Interesting.


go on...
 
2012-11-12 01:53:34 AM

relaxitsjustme: What I don't understand is the amount of shait that cycling gets about doping when it is cleaner than baseball or football.




Sorry to break it to you, but it's not.
 
2012-11-12 02:08:30 AM

CodeMonkey4Life: I just want meticulous records kept so that we can all benefit from the scientific research these brave people do when experimenting on themselves.
Eventually we'll know the benefits and risks of various things that may be useful to the general public.
I'm pretty sure I need performance enhancement more than Lance does but I want decades of experimentation on (willing of course) human guinea pigs to help keep me strong enough to take care of myself when age would otherwise make me feeble.
They don't need to be elite athletes either, in fact it would be less useful if they all were. Let people from all walks of life risk their health for my eventual benefit juicing up to do things like play shuffle board better.
Freedom biatches! and if you can't take the risk stay out of the race.

//only mostly kidding


There was a pro cyclist Joe Papp who had a website selling Chinese EPO and shait to athletes. What the FBI discovered after monitoring it for a while is that while there was some doping going on at the pro level there's a lot more going on at the amateur level. Apparently there's a lot of fatty masters who just can't gracefully deal with the fact that a 25 yo can out ride a 40 yo in their club's annual century or whatever the hell ride they are doing. Basically doping for bragging rights.

I do agree that when a person hits...pick a number...70 years old...why not let them take HGH or 'roids or EPO if it makes them more ability to take care of themselves for a longer period of time. I don't think shriveling up the testes is going to be a big concern for a 70 yo who is struggling to take the top off the mayonnaise jar or make it up a flight of stairs.
 
2012-11-12 02:08:37 AM
RevMercutio
...People wanna see amazing things. Remember McGwire and Sosa?

In general, we didn't know they were doping. Had we known, we would only care because they were out to steal the Maris record by cheating. The home run records, Maris and Aaron, used to mean something. Today they mean nothing. Armstrong is just another little shiatbag who took a thing with cultural value and destroyed it.

If you want all-drug athletics, come up with some new sports. Don't trash the ones that can be measured in centuries.
 
2012-11-12 02:46:32 AM

rocky_howard: relaxitsjustme: What I don't understand is the amount of shait that cycling gets about doping when it is cleaner than baseball or football.

Sorry to break it to you, but it's not.


Yes, yes it is. I've been around Fark long enough to know better than throw out statements I can't back up so here goes.

Slate article stating that cyclists failed 1.19% of their drug tests. Unfortunately the PDF link to the report is dead because is was interesting reading.

That same year, 2010, 10 percent of baseball players tested positive and about the same percentage of NFL players admit to using steroids

MLB and NFL are pussies when it comes to testing and punishment. Cyclists with a dirty A and B sample are banned for 2 years. Drop the 50 games for MLB or 4 games for NFL, let USADA run the testing program and kick somebody who's dirty out for 2 years before you start spouting off about how dirty cyclists are.
 
2012-11-12 03:10:09 AM

relaxitsjustme: rocky_howard: relaxitsjustme: What I don't understand is the amount of shait that cycling gets about doping when it is cleaner than baseball or football.

Sorry to break it to you, but it's not.

Yes, yes it is. I've been around Fark long enough to know better than throw out statements I can't back up so here goes.

Slate article stating that cyclists failed 1.19% of their drug tests. Unfortunately the PDF link to the report is dead because is was interesting reading.

That same year, 2010, 10 percent of baseball players tested positive and about the same percentage of NFL players admit to using steroids

MLB and NFL are pussies when it comes to testing and punishment. Cyclists with a dirty A and B sample are banned for 2 years. Drop the 50 games for MLB or 4 games for NFL, let USADA run the testing program and kick somebody who's dirty out for 2 years before you start spouting off about how dirty cyclists are.


I'm an unfit fat bastard these days, but back in my 20's cycling was my activity of choice. Road cycling up the biggest hills I could find. I did it on my own, not competitively, but damn it was a great way to keep fit and spend an afternoon. I was a keen supporter of Armstrong, and supported him against the allegations until well into this year when it became clear that the evidence was just too overwhelming. I'm sad that this happened.

But your post makes some glaring errors. You can't compare "tested positive" with "admitted using". It's apples and oranges, as the revelations from the former US Postal guys this year showed. The evidence that a very significant portion of the peleton on the big tours (and presumably other UCI events too) were doping is just too strong. Well over the 10% in baseball you quote.

Cycling will come back. I believe that the last few years have been much better than the years 1993-2008. I believe that the British guys this year and my countryman Evans last year were clean TDF winners. I also believe that US cycling can stand tall on the strength of Greg Lemond even if the exploits of many US cyclists (and Australian, Spanish and French cyclists too) in recent years were not so cool.

And what you can't take away from Armstrong is what he's given the world in encouraging healthy lifestyles and supporting cancer patients. He's made a real difference to literally millions.

But my point is we can't be in denial about what's gone wrong in a sport we love. Great sports demand great culture, and cycling lost this for a lot of years. We must be mad about it. And we must not tolerate a repeat. Only then can we feel superior to the other sports who continue to be in denial.
 
2012-11-12 03:27:12 AM

expobill: Aussie_As: expobill: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x312]

Now now Expobill, Big Mig never tested postive.

Oh, wait.

No, nevermind, carry on.

i own a banesto and blog movistar cycling info.


Oh, I thought you were making a very different point! I think that's Poe's Law in action. Sorry mate.
 
2012-11-12 03:31:31 AM
Tiger Woods hasn't been the same since he went off the juice either.
 
2012-11-12 04:43:57 AM
This is why "stripping" wins and "vacating" championships is ridiculous. Everyone knows who won those games.

Its what keeps John Calipari employed.
 
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