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2012-11-11 04:12:03 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-11 07:14:09 PM  
A Detroit suburb that was forced to lay off half its police department has seen a spike in violent crime,

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-11-11 07:49:47 PM  
What is the demographic like in Inkster. Is it a traditionally high crime area?
 
2012-11-11 07:50:01 PM  
I wonder how many of the perpetrators were ex-police who have turned to a life of crime to make up for the lost income?
 
2012-11-11 07:50:45 PM  
depends on the type of murders. if they are domestic or crimes of passion types, I would be surprised because don't prevent those.

If they were the result of increased criminal activity, embiggenment, because they know there are fewer cops, then no, I wouldn't be surprised.
 
2012-11-11 07:51:02 PM  
the police force was cut in half

They cut their only good cop in half? Damn corrupt bastards will do anything for a bribe.
 
2012-11-11 07:51:28 PM  
Obvious tag is ducking and praying....
 
2012-11-11 07:52:02 PM  
Half of the police force isn't there anymore and crime is not only still there but up...that can mean only one thing: It wasn't the policemen. Maybe they should now let half of the firemen go and see if that helps.
 
2012-11-11 07:52:11 PM  
While the murder rate has gone up, the number of resisting arrest deaths has gone down.
 
2012-11-11 07:52:45 PM  
the free market will smooth everything out.
 
2012-11-11 07:53:07 PM  
Am I in before Robocop refs?
 
2012-11-11 07:55:21 PM  
Obviously the solution is to issue every man, woman, and child their own personal police officer. That will surely eliminate all crime.
 
2012-11-11 07:55:22 PM  
It's all part of God's plan.
 
2012-11-11 07:55:32 PM  
No.

Inkster is not a town. It is a website where people sell you "reconditioned" printer cartridges, guaranteed only to leak a little bit.

/less than 1 clog per hour, that's the Inkster pledge!
 
2012-11-11 07:55:40 PM  
Why do we even need police? Let the people regulate themselves.
 
2012-11-11 07:56:38 PM  
Careful guys, SJ is just slathering at the bit for an opportunity to call us all bigots.
 
2012-11-11 07:56:39 PM  
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Oldiron_79: Am I in before Robocop refs?


shiat.
 
2012-11-11 07:56:48 PM  
Lay the rest of them off, let nature take its course
 
2012-11-11 07:57:35 PM  
Wife and I go shopping in Detroit sometimes, although we stick to the white bread areas.

For the first while though on those freeways going through the inner city you just feel your heart sink for everyone living there.

Took a wrong turn off a freeway once and ended up in some neighborhood with burned out buildings. So strange the night and day-ness. One area is all money and shopping. Two neighborhoods over it looks like a literal war zone.
 
2012-11-11 07:58:34 PM  
www.memphisflyer.com
 
2012-11-11 07:58:44 PM  
The Detroit equivalent of this moment from MST3K: This Island Earth:


"Did you notice a peculiar indentation in their foreheads?"

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
 
2012-11-11 08:02:46 PM  
I don't dare raise my hand, subby. I'm carrying Skittles.
 
2012-11-11 08:02:57 PM  

fusillade762: Careful guys, SJ is just slathering at the bit for an opportunity to call us all bigots.


Why would that be necessary? I'm sure everyone involved in this unfortunate burned out hellscape is white.
 
2012-11-11 08:03:06 PM  

shanrick: the free market will smooth everything out.


wiki.base22.com
 
2012-11-11 08:03:37 PM  
But I thought cops just shot innocent people and confiscated weed, maaaan. At least that's what I read on Fark.
 
2012-11-11 08:09:17 PM  
Well, no shiat Sherlock.

Cops really do serve a purpose, you know. I know that's tantamount to heresy around here, but they do in fact prevent crime, take perpetrators off the streets, and arrest criminals before they commit other, more heinous crimes. Remove half the cops, and the ones who are left have twice as much to do and are about 1/3 as effective.

It's just too bad that "I told you so" has to come at the expense of all the people victimized by the crooks that the cops weren't there to arrest.
 
2012-11-11 08:13:03 PM  

sure haven't: Wife and I go shopping in Detroit sometimes, although we stick to the white bread areas.

For the first while though on those freeways going through the inner city you just feel your heart sink for everyone living there.

Took a wrong turn off a freeway once and ended up in some neighborhood with burned out buildings. So strange the night and day-ness. One area is all money and shopping. Two neighborhoods over it looks like a literal war zone.


Seriously. Got lost once - closed on ramp - and ended up in an area where we should not have been. Cop pulled up along side us at a light and told us to drive to the interstate and not stop again for lights or stop signs or anything else. That scared me more than the neighborhood.
 
2012-11-11 08:13:19 PM  
Inkster is home to the biggest lesbian club I know of in Michigan.

The club also has a good drag show. The hostess sang Patsy Cline's crazy in a hospital gown and spit up on the audience as part of the act.

/Good times
 
2012-11-11 08:13:42 PM  
This is just how the blacks celebrate "4 more years" of THEIR guy in office.

Seriously though -- Detroit is a shiat hole, and a textbook example of what happens when you let crazy black people take over.

You can try to ignore the race issue all you like - but it's there. For all the "brotherly love" they like to preach, they sure don't practice it.

Just nuke from orbit and be done with it.
 
2012-11-11 08:13:47 PM  
Lay off the politicians.
 
2012-11-11 08:14:25 PM  
Most of those are probably dirtbag on dirtbag murders. Don't get too upset.
 
2012-11-11 08:15:58 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Well, no shiat Sherlock.

Cops really do serve a purpose, you know. I know that's tantamount to heresy around here, but they do in fact prevent crime, take perpetrators off the streets, and arrest criminals before they commit other, more heinous crimes. Remove half the cops, and the ones who are left have twice as much to do and are about 1/3 as effective.

It's just too bad that "I told you so" has to come at the expense of all the people victimized by the crooks that the cops weren't there to arrest.


Yes, people on Fark are constantly calling for the dismantling of the police industry.
 
2012-11-11 08:18:00 PM  
I suppose if they get two more, it would be a 40% increase which is indeed a spike, but going from 10 to 12 isn't exactly the crimewave they imply
 
2012-11-11 08:24:02 PM  
Cut moar taxes!
 
2012-11-11 08:24:53 PM  

SoundOfOneHandWanking: I suppose if they get two more, it would be a 40% increase which is indeed a spike, but going from 10 to 12 isn't exactly the crimewave they imply


FTA:Since July, when the police force was cut in half, there have been 10 murders in Inkster, a Detroit suburb with a population of about 25,000. There have been 12 murders so far this year.


So, if this is accurate, there were 2 murders from January through the layoffs in July. There have 10 since the layoffs in July. That is, indeed, quite a spike.

And 12 murders in a year (so far) for a town of 25,000 is pretty bad no matter how you look at it.
 
2012-11-11 08:28:54 PM  

Oldiron_79: Am I in before Robocop refs?


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-11 08:29:08 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-11 08:29:17 PM  
Given that Detroit elects criminals to public office what do you expect?

8-time felon from Detroit wins state House seat in Michigan
 
2012-11-11 08:31:58 PM  

hasty ambush: Given that Detroit elects criminals to public office what do you expect?

8-time felon from Detroit wins state House seat in Michigan


In fairness...

8-time felon or Republican? It's pretty much a Hobson's choice.
 
2012-11-11 08:35:38 PM  

wxboy: hasty ambush: Given that Detroit elects criminals to public office what do you expect?

8-time felon from Detroit wins state House seat in Michigan

In fairness...

8-time felon Democrat or Republican? It's pretty much a Hobson's choice.


FTFY
 
2012-11-11 08:35:43 PM  

ChubbyTiger: Seriously. Got lost once - closed on ramp - and ended up in an area where we should not have been. Cop pulled up along side us at a light and told us to drive to the interstate and not stop again for lights or stop signs or anything else. That scared me more than the neighborhood


Holy sh*t. I've heard of the no stop light rule.
Yeah that would frighten me a great deal.

A buddy and me went to a red wings game. After it we kinda got lost looking for the car. I was starting to be concerned cause the streets were emptying out. Kept thinking hmm we're about to be lost downtown Detroit at night. This will be interesting. And by interesting I mean terrifying.
 
2012-11-11 08:41:35 PM  
They should have cut the fire department instead-- not much left to burn anyway...

You've got to remember that the people there have selected and re-elected their liberal paradise for the past 40 years. Let them live with their consequences.
 
2012-11-11 08:41:43 PM  
Self-correcting problem is self-correcting.

/Carry on
 
2012-11-11 08:42:46 PM  

crab66: Why do we even need police? Let the people regulate themselves.


to protect and serve. to protect the rich & powerful, to serve warrants
 
2012-11-11 08:45:29 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-11 08:45:56 PM  

crab66: Why do we even need police? Let the people regulate themselves.


3.bp.blogspot.com


/Detroit's cup runneth over
 
2012-11-11 08:48:46 PM  

accelerus: This is just how the blacks celebrate "4 more years" of THEIR guy in office.

Seriously though -- Detroit is a shiat hole, and a textbook example of what happens when you let crazy black people take over.

You can try to ignore the race issue all you like - but it's there. For all the "brotherly love" they like to preach, they sure don't practice it.

Just nuke from orbit and be done with it.


i16.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-11 08:59:27 PM  

Pope George Ringo: [i.imgur.com image 448x391]


I don't get it. Exactly what message are you trying to convey?
 
2012-11-11 09:01:44 PM  
Inkster is a poopstain.
 
2012-11-11 09:01:52 PM  
I want you to hear me tonight, I am not saying that President Obama is the Antichrist, I am not saying that at all. One reason I know he's not the Antichrist is the Antichrist is going to have much higher poll numbers when he comes. President Obama is not the Antichrist. But what I am saying is this: the course he is choosing to lead our nation is paving the way for the future reign of the Antichrist. it is time for Christians to stand up and to push back against this evil that is overtaking our nation" and to do so via "the ballot box."
 
2012-11-11 09:04:52 PM  

Ban the Tiger Punch: Cut moar taxes!


Detroit is in the unenviable position of not having enough citizens left to tax to support their services. It's going to be interesting to see it play out - what happens when there isn't a base left to tax?

Democrats and Republicans should both pay attention. Republicans can watch and see what happens when there aren't any more government services. Democrats can watch and see what happens when the mythical money Unicorn falls over and dies.
 
2012-11-11 09:09:34 PM  

phrawgh: I want you to hear me tonight, I am not saying that President Obama is the Antichrist, I am not saying that at all. One reason I know he's not the Antichrist is the Antichrist is going to have much higher poll numbers when he comes. President Obama is not the Antichrist. But what I am saying is this: the course he is choosing to lead our nation is paving the way for the future reign of the Antichrist. it is time for Christians to stand up and to push back against this evil that is overtaking our nation" and to do so via "the ballot box."


Obama is the Pre-Anti-Christ.
 
2012-11-11 09:10:09 PM  
So your saying the sky is blue and water is wet? Well ain't that somethin....

At what point to people just abandon everything and leave?
 
2012-11-11 09:10:34 PM  

Lsherm: Ban the Tiger Punch: Cut moar taxes!

Detroit is in the unenviable position of not having enough citizens left to tax to support their services. It's going to be interesting to see it play out - what happens when there isn't a base left to tax?

Democrats and Republicans should both pay attention. Republicans can watch and see what happens when there aren't any more government services. Democrats can watch and see what happens when the mythical money Unicorn falls over and dies.


And the rest of the country can laugh at that state up north failing.

again.
 
2012-11-11 09:13:49 PM  

wxboy: hasty ambush: Given that Detroit elects criminals to public office what do you expect?

8-time felon from Detroit wins state House seat in Michigan

In fairness...

8-time felon or Republican? It's pretty much a Hobson's choice.


Silly Farker, Republicans don't challenge those seats.
 
2012-11-11 09:17:21 PM  

Ban the Tiger Punch: Cut moar taxes!


Know how I know that you don't have any clue about the discussion we're actually having?
 
2012-11-11 09:17:31 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Well, no shiat Sherlock.

Cops really do serve a purpose, you know. I know that's tantamount to heresy around here, but they do in fact prevent crime, take perpetrators off the streets, and arrest criminals before they commit other, more heinous crimes. Remove half the cops, and the ones who are left have twice as much to do and are about 1/3 as effective.

It's just too bad that "I told you so" has to come at the expense of all the people victimized by the crooks that the cops weren't there to arrest.


BURN THE WITCH !!!!!!

On a serious note; I agree; you cut the law enforcement by half; you will probably have an increase in crime.
 
2012-11-11 09:20:46 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Pope George Ringo: [i.imgur.com image 448x391]

I don't get it. Exactly what message are you trying to convey?


I'd like to confirm that she isn't a drag queen before I start finish fapping.
 
2012-11-11 09:21:00 PM  
Well, color me shocked
 
2012-11-11 09:22:41 PM  
sounds like they need to pass a law requiring everyone to own and carry a handgun.
 
2012-11-11 09:23:05 PM  

iheartscotch: Gyrfalcon: Well, no shiat Sherlock.

Cops really do serve a purpose, you know. I know that's tantamount to heresy around here, but they do in fact prevent crime, take perpetrators off the streets, and arrest criminals before they commit other, more heinous crimes. Remove half the cops, and the ones who are left have twice as much to do and are about 1/3 as effective.

It's just too bad that "I told you so" has to come at the expense of all the people victimized by the crooks that the cops weren't there to arrest.

BURN THE WITCH !!!!!!

On a serious note; I agree; you cut the law enforcement by half; you will probably have an increase in crime.


If I really cared, we could actually look to see if this is outside of a standard deviation or not.

but I don't.
 
2012-11-11 09:25:45 PM  
I thought convicted felons couldn't even vote!

WTF... When this guy pulls some shiat, we can all drink a tall frosty glass of 'I told you so'.
 
2012-11-11 09:26:02 PM  

Erom: What is the demographic like in Inkster. Is it a traditionally high crime area?


http://media.mlive.com/news/detroit_impact/photo/detroit-race-ethnic it yjpg-22460d870367ecf8.jpg (image is too big)

Blue = black people/ghetto/you WILL get shot.
Red = white people/serious money/you're mostly fine
Yellow = mexicans/poor people/I'm don't know whether you'll get shot or not. (The ones I've worked with were just poor, but were hardworking and didn't commit any crime that I knew of beyond attempted child labor abuses (coworker kept trying to get us to hire his 15 year old son, which was a no-no for that job))

Inkster is the lower left corner of the blue.
 
2012-11-11 09:27:40 PM  
To those of you who are wondering what kind of city Inkster is, let me tell you: I'm from Inkster, and I'm white. When I tell most people in the Metro Detroit area that I'm from Inkster, I usually get a surprised/confused look.

When I was in my senior year of high school, I was applying for scholarships for college. There was one that was open to all graduating seniors who lived in the city. When I went to the interview, the lady opened the door, took a look at me and said "What are you doing here?" The "honkey" wasn't said, but was understood.
 
2012-11-11 09:30:58 PM  
Glock:

When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away... Or in this case, just got their pink slips...
 
2012-11-11 09:36:58 PM  

Arcturus72: Glock:

When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away... Or in this case, just got their pink slips...


The Gospel according to John Moses Browning.
 
2012-11-11 09:39:45 PM  
Everyone surprised by this raise your hands....

"Don't Honey, it's a trick question."
cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2012-11-11 09:40:39 PM  

phrawgh: I want you to hear me tonight, I am not saying that President Obama is the Antichrist, I am not saying that at all. One reason I know he's not the Antichrist is the Antichrist is going to have much higher poll numbers when he comes. President Obama is not the Antichrist. But what I am saying is this: the course he is choosing to lead our nation is paving the way for the future reign of the Antichrist. it is time for Christians to stand up and to push back against this evil that is overtaking our nation" and to do so via "the ballot box."


Romans 13: 1-7
Read that to learn why God supports Obama.

/Oh, and the 'much higher poll numbers' line was hilarious, so thanks for that. 
//FSM FTW
 
2012-11-11 09:45:22 PM  
I have read, though I do not remember when or where, that Inkster was developed as a place for the "coloreds" back in the day. The poverty was there from the beginning and third world style human suffering occurred in the Great Depression. You could look it up, because I have a Bears game to watch.
 
2012-11-11 09:47:00 PM  

wantingout: sounds like they need to pass a law requiring everyone to own and carry a handgun.


if my city cut the police force in half tonight, tomorrow morning I'd be at a gun store the moment the clerk put the Open sign up.
 
2012-11-11 09:48:34 PM  
gone from 10 murders to 12? Surprised that some farkster think this is alarming? no, sadly, fark is filled with idiots.
 
2012-11-11 09:50:35 PM  

sparty: They should have cut the fire department instead-- not much left to burn anyway...

You've got to remember that the people there have selected and re-elected their liberal paradise for the past 40 years. Let them live with their consequences.


Do you seriously think there are any liberal governments in the USA? The closest you have is center right.

What is particularly disingenuous about your post is that the current condition of Detroit has more to do with the short term profit motive of inept corporations and the bullheaded inanity of big labor unions than it does with local government policy.

Here are some photos from real liberal societies. Compare and contrast to Detroit:

Norway
media.treehugger.com
www.konstruktionspraxis.vogel.de
oslo-norway.ca
farm8.staticflickr.com

Australia
resources1.news.com.au
cache.virtualtourist.com
www.informationcentres.com.au
 
2012-11-11 09:51:51 PM  

LDM90: But I thought cops just shot innocent people and confiscated weed, maaaan. At least that's what I read on Fark.


I had to go (well, I didn't HAVE to, buy my cousin hired me to) to Detoilet to bring back a fugitive from justice (my cousin is a Bail Bond company's enforcement agent).
To be honest with you it didn't tug at my heartstrings at all, just made me wish for a .50 and a Mean Green to do flyovers till I couldn't hang out on a chicken strap any longer.
And then napalm.
 
2012-11-11 09:52:54 PM  

kg2095: sparty: They should have cut the fire department instead-- not much left to burn anyway...

You've got to remember that the people there have selected and re-elected their liberal paradise for the past 40 years. Let them live with their consequences.

Do you seriously think there are any liberal governments in the USA? The closest you have is center right.

What is particularly disingenuous about your post is that the current condition of Detroit has more to do with the short term profit motive of inept corporations and the bullheaded inanity of big labor unions than it does with local government policy.

Here are some photos from real liberal societies. Compare and contrast to Detroit:

Norway
[media.treehugger.com image 468x358]
[www.konstruktionspraxis.vogel.de image 300x212]
[oslo-norway.ca image 450x332]
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 850x566]

Australia
[resources1.news.com.au image 650x366]
[cache.virtualtourist.com image 468x285]
[www.informationcentres.com.au image 850x566]


Norway and Australia? Yeah - they've got populations of roughly 345 people each.
 
2012-11-11 10:00:42 PM  
When you give full control to the Democrat party, Detroit happens.
 
2012-11-11 10:01:30 PM  

Lsherm: Ban the Tiger Punch: Cut moar taxes!

Detroit is in the unenviable position of not having enough citizens left to tax to support their services. It's going to be interesting to see it play out - what happens when there isn't a base left to tax?

Democrats and Republicans should both pay attention. Republicans can watch and see what happens when there aren't any more government services. Democrats can watch and see what happens when the mythical money Unicorn falls over and dies.



Dear Lord, a level-headed person on Fark.

Burn him!!!
 
2012-11-11 10:03:30 PM  

LDM90: phrawgh: I want you to hear me tonight, I am not saying that President Obama is the Antichrist, I am not saying that at all. One reason I know he's not the Antichrist is the Antichrist is going to have much higher poll numbers when he comes. President Obama is not the Antichrist. But what I am saying is this: the course he is choosing to lead our nation is paving the way for the future reign of the Antichrist. it is time for Christians to stand up and to push back against this evil that is overtaking our nation" and to do so via "the ballot box."

Obama is the Pre-Anti-Christ.


PAC 2.0! Now with more Mandate!
 
2012-11-11 10:07:14 PM  

Pope George Ringo: [i.imgur.com image 448x391]


that's one sexy aunt jemima
 
2012-11-11 10:12:42 PM  

kg2095: sparty: They should have cut the fire department instead-- not much left to burn anyway...

You've got to remember that the people there have selected and re-elected their liberal paradise for the past 40 years. Let them live with their consequences.

Do you seriously think there are any liberal governments in the USA? The closest you have is center right.

What is particularly disingenuous about your post is that the current condition of Detroit has more to do with the short term profit motive of inept corporations and the bullheaded inanity of big labor unions than it does with local government policy.

Here are some photos from real liberal societies. Compare and contrast to Detroit:

Norway
/i>

And it took exactly how long for Nazi Germany to invade and occupy Norway again?

I tell you what... we can kill off 95% of our military budget, give it all to the projects you so desperately want -- when the likes of Norway can ensure the rest of the world that it will take full and total responsibility for keeping the seas free - and hold of any despotic regimes from messing with the 'free world' ... mmmmk?

 
2012-11-11 10:13:20 PM  
I'm from "northern Michigan" and the wife and I went to the DET Friday or a function at the motorcity casino. I am a proud michigander and have lived here my whole life, and have traveled all over the state, country and world. When I drive into Detroit I get nervous as hell and just want out. From the buildings to the people It REALLY does look like a post apocalyptic nightmare.
 
2012-11-11 10:16:09 PM  
 
2012-11-11 10:26:42 PM  

LDM90: phrawgh: I want you to hear me tonight, I am not saying that President Obama is the Antichrist, I am not saying that at all. One reason I know he's not the Antichrist is the Antichrist is going to have much higher poll numbers when he comes. President Obama is not the Antichrist. But what I am saying is this: the course he is choosing to lead our nation is paving the way for the future reign of the Antichrist. it is time for Christians to stand up and to push back against this evil that is overtaking our nation" and to do so via "the ballot box."

Obama is the Pre-Anti-Christ.


The Pantie-christ?
 
2012-11-11 10:36:40 PM  
It's an 'experiment' dummies.

This will be an excuse to add more police in your town.

For your protection.
 
2012-11-11 10:36:47 PM  

Thai_Mai_Xhu:
To be honest with you it didn't tug at my heartstrings at all, just made me wish for a .50 and a Mean Green to do flyovers till I couldn't hang out on a chicken strap any longer.


How could you shoot innocent women and children like that?
 
2012-11-11 10:39:27 PM  
There were still unmurdered people left in Detroit?
 
2012-11-11 10:40:22 PM  

for good or for awesome: How could you shoot innocent women and children like that?


You just don't lead them as much.
 
2012-11-11 10:53:52 PM  

Nemo's Brother: When you give full control to the Democrat party, Detroit happens.


Either that or Sweden, apparently.
 
2012-11-11 10:59:30 PM  
What happened to the honor system?
 
2012-11-11 11:00:36 PM  

AcademGreen: Inkster is home to the biggest lesbian club I know of in Michigan.

The club also has a good drag show. The hostess sang Patsy Cline's crazy in a hospital gown and spit up on the audience as part of the act.

/Good times


If you ever go into the "Painted Duck" by accident I'll let ya in on a little secret....no girls work there, oakie dokie?
 
2012-11-11 11:07:06 PM  

meyerkev: Erom: What is the demographic like in Inkster. Is it a traditionally high crime area?

http://media.mlive.com/news/detroit_impact/photo/detroit-race-ethnic it yjpg-22460d870367ecf8.jpg (image is too big)

Blue = black people/ghetto/you WILL get shot.
Red = white people/serious money/you're mostly fine
Yellow = mexicans/poor people/I'm don't know whether you'll get shot or not. (The ones I've worked with were just poor, but were hardworking and didn't commit any crime that I knew of beyond attempted child labor abuses (coworker kept trying to get us to hire his 15 year old son, which was a no-no for that job))

Inkster is the lower left corner of the blue.


interesting map...although I'm interested to know about red (white) enclave enclose by all blue (black)
 
2012-11-11 11:12:44 PM  

for good or for awesome: Gyrfalcon: Well, no shiat Sherlock.

Cops really do serve a purpose, you know. I know that's tantamount to heresy around here, but they do in fact prevent crime, take perpetrators off the streets, and arrest criminals before they commit other, more heinous crimes. Remove half the cops, and the ones who are left have twice as much to do and are about 1/3 as effective.

It's just too bad that "I told you so" has to come at the expense of all the people victimized by the crooks that the cops weren't there to arrest.

Yes, people on Fark are constantly calling for the dismantling of the police industry.


TKX for the rescue, I was afraid Sgt Friday was gonna jump outta my computer and give me the "Where Your tax money goes" speech.
.(That poor woman should have complained).
 
2012-11-11 11:19:01 PM  
Inkster?

Is this one of these towns that sold their name to a website? Shouldn't it be called inkster.com? (No, wait. That belongs to the Inkster family.)

And why is anybody surprised that the murder rate is high in a town named after a tattoo parlour?
 
2012-11-11 11:19:37 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: meyerkev: Erom: What is the demographic like in Inkster. Is it a traditionally high crime area?

http://media.mlive.com/news/detroit_impact/photo/detroit-race-ethnic it yjpg-22460d870367ecf8.jpg (image is too big)

Blue = black people/ghetto/you WILL get shot.
Red = white people/serious money/you're mostly fine
Yellow = mexicans/poor people/I'm don't know whether you'll get shot or not. (The ones I've worked with were just poor, but were hardworking and didn't commit any crime that I knew of beyond attempted child labor abuses (coworker kept trying to get us to hire his 15 year old son, which was a no-no for that job))

Inkster is the lower left corner of the blue.

interesting map...although I'm interested to know about red (white) enclave enclose by all blue (black)


Wayne State University and the surrounding area.
 
2012-11-11 11:36:37 PM  

LDM90: phrawgh: I want you to hear me tonight, I am not saying that President Obama is the Antichrist, I am not saying that at all. One reason I know he's not the Antichrist is the Antichrist is going to have much higher poll numbers when he comes. President Obama is not the Antichrist. But what I am saying is this: the course he is choosing to lead our nation is paving the way for the future reign of the Antichrist. it is time for Christians to stand up and to push back against this evil that is overtaking our nation" and to do so via "the ballot box."

Obama is the Pre-Anti-Christ.


Or the Panty-Christ. One of the two.
 
2012-11-11 11:38:04 PM  

Vance Uppercut: gone from 10 murders to 12? Surprised that some farkster think this is alarming? no, sadly, fark is filled with idiots.


You ... might want to go back to the article and look at the timeframe involved.
 
2012-11-11 11:48:14 PM  

Erom: What is the demographic like in Inkster. Is it a traditionally high crime area?


I'm guessing it is now. I think this is more of a chicken and an egg thing. They likely had to lay off their police force as all of the gainfully employed citizens fled and their tax base disappeared. At the same time the crime went up. So probably not less cops = more murders, but rather both are a reflection of the demographics and economic health of the city.
 
2012-11-11 11:48:32 PM  

shanrick: the free market will smooth everything out.


Link

Just google "detroit private police"
 
2012-11-11 11:49:23 PM  

Maybe you should drive: SoundOfOneHandWanking: I suppose if they get two more, it would be a 40% increase which is indeed a spike, but going from 10 to 12 isn't exactly the crimewave they imply

FTA:Since July, when the police force was cut in half, there have been 10 murders in Inkster, a Detroit suburb with a population of about 25,000. There have been 12 murders so far this year.


So, if this is accurate, there were 2 murders from January through the layoffs in July. There have 10 since the layoffs in July. That is, indeed, quite a spike.

And 12 murders in a year (so far) for a town of 25,000 is pretty bad no matter how you look at it.


Damn near as bad as Chicago. But the writer needs to be more accurate and specific. The term MURDER has implications that go beyond someone getting killed. It implies the targeted killing of a specific individual for some "reason" however bogus. Self defense may wind up with someone dead but that is not a murder. And mutual combat between two thugs over turf that leaves one of them dead may be homicide but doesn't rate being called murder either. "MURDER" without a qualifier is assumed to mean Murder in the first degree.
 
2012-11-12 12:01:59 AM  
Doesn't seem like that big (6/5) of a difference to be meaningful, necessarily.

//bite me
//fusillade762
 
2012-11-12 12:03:15 AM  
Love big government? Like high taxes? Like union control of all industry? It's better in Detroit!
 
2012-11-12 12:10:34 AM  

meanmutton: SuperNinjaToad: meyerkev: Erom: What is the demographic like in Inkster. Is it a traditionally high crime area?

http://media.mlive.com/news/detroit_impact/photo/detroit-race-ethnic it yjpg-22460d870367ecf8.jpg (image is too big)

Blue = black people/ghetto/you WILL get shot.
Red = white people/serious money/you're mostly fine
Yellow = mexicans/poor people/I'm don't know whether you'll get shot or not. (The ones I've worked with were just poor, but were hardworking and didn't commit any crime that I knew of beyond attempted child labor abuses (coworker kept trying to get us to hire his 15 year old son, which was a no-no for that job))

Inkster is the lower left corner of the blue.

interesting map...although I'm interested to know about red (white) enclave enclose by all blue (black)

Wayne State University and the surrounding area.


Also Hamtramck. Pollacks.
 
2012-11-12 12:13:11 AM  
jigger: Love big government? Like high taxes? Like union control of all industry? It's better in Detroit!

I was born and raised in Detroit and lived there most of my life (don't anymore for obvious reasons). Sir, with all due respect, you have no idea what you're talking about. Nevertheless we can agree that it's a crying shame. It cannot be saved anymore. It's frikkin' sad.
 
2012-11-12 12:16:29 AM  

kg2095: sparty: They should have cut the fire department instead-- not much left to burn anyway...

You've got to remember that the people there have selected and re-elected their liberal paradise for the past 40 years. Let them live with their consequences.

Do you seriously think there are any liberal governments in the USA? The closest you have is center right.

What is particularly disingenuous about your post is that the current condition of Detroit has more to do with the short term profit motive of inept corporations and the bullheaded inanity of big labor unions than it does with local government policy.

Here are some photos from real liberal societies. Compare and contrast to Detroit:

Norway
[media.treehugger.com image 468x358]
[www.konstruktionspraxis.vogel.de image 300x212]
[oslo-norway.ca image 450x332]
[farm8.staticflickr.com image 850x566]

Australia
[resources1.news.com.au image 650x366]
[cache.virtualtourist.com image 468x285]
[www.informationcentres.com.au image 850x566]


1st of all, you're wrong.
2ndly, pictures of clean streets are proof of nothing.
3rdly, the countries of note are 94.4% white and 92% white, respectively. Detroit is 81.5% black... So which is it you are implying: libs stake no responsibility for Detroit after having owned city hall since 1962 or that Norway and Australia have less crime because you found pictures of clean streets inevitably kept up by their white citizens.... Or are you saying that these countries are safer overall b/c these countries are more white? Seriously. What's your point? And why are you comparing entire countries to a shiat hole city like Detroit? Why not point to Greece or Russia? Those countries also have white people the last time I checked. What's your game here buster? Speak! Ruff! Ruff! Hehehehehehehehehehh
 
2012-11-12 12:26:39 AM  

Vance Uppercut: gone from 10 murders to 12? Surprised that some farkster think this is alarming? no, sadly, fark is filled with idiots.


Lol... yep, starting with you, sparky.

(hint: you may want to recheck your math, sweet cheeks)

You at attempting simple math (and/or reading comprehension) =

farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-11-12 01:02:39 AM  

ex-nuke: Damn near as bad as Chicago. But the writer needs to be more accurate and specific. The term MURDER has implications that go beyond someone getting killed


Actually, it's far worse than the rate in Chicago. And as much as I usually criticize journalists for being lazy in their research, they really don't have many options here. Murder rates, especially those given in real time (like the murder rate in x city this year) generally refer to the killings of human beings by other human beings. Some of those will later be reduced to lesser charges such as manslaughter while others might be thrown out entirely (justifiable homicide, for example). But they still give a good idea as to the rate at which some human beings are killing other human beings. Those numbers still offer a decent idea of the violence in a particular city. After all if city A has one homicide per 10,000 residents this year, while city B has 1 homicide per 100,000 residents this year, I know I don't need much explanation of those numbers to understand which city is more violent.
 
2012-11-12 01:11:48 AM  

Vance Uppercut: gone from 10 murders to 12? Surprised that some farkster think this is alarming? no, sadly, fark is filled with idiots.


I admit that the article is written like a logic question in the GRE, but you don't seem to understand the facts. According to the information in the article, there were two murders from January 1, 2012 until an unknown date in July when cops were laid off (the exact date might be in there. I don't know). There have been 10 murders since that day in July until now, November 11, 2012.

This is a substantial spike. There is no way around that. Let's please remember that this is the framework for the discussion.

And please don't accuse a website of being filled with idiots when you are the one who can't understand a pretty simple fact.
 
2012-11-12 01:17:13 AM  
Det overall rate / Chi overall rate = 2.5
However there are neighborhoods in Chi that have a worse murder rate than Det overall.

//Low numbers
//are difficult to generalize from
 
2012-11-12 01:21:42 AM  
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-12 01:34:17 AM  
Careful guys, SJ is just slathering at the bit for an opportunity to call us all bigots.

My kid spent the weekend in Detroit, loved it, is thinking of moving there. Likes the post-apocalyptic angle--ahh yout.

fusillade762

Sensitive, aren't we?

This isn't my predisposition, since half of the people who post in these things are proud bigots.

// you are, however, probably, a carton-sipping harelip, I can just tell
 
2012-11-12 01:49:02 AM  
"Police are asking anyone with information on the latest homicide to call CrimeStoppers at 1-800-SPEAKUP (1-800-773-2587)."
Please leave a message and we'll get back to you. Someday.

/*I * am the real Inskter
 
2012-11-12 01:51:02 AM  
Robert Inkster, a Scotsman born March 27, 1828, in Lerwick, Shetland,[4] operated a steam sawmill on present-day Inkster Road near Michigan Avenue in the early 1860s.

-via Wiki
 
2012-11-12 02:27:20 AM  
Also Camden is about to hit their all time record in just November, this is after they drastically cut back on their pd.
 
2012-11-12 03:50:43 AM  

for good or for awesome: Thai_Mai_Xhu:
To be honest with you it didn't tug at my heartstrings at all, just made me wish for a .50 and a Mean Green to do flyovers till I couldn't hang out on a chicken strap any longer.

How could you shoot innocent women and children like that?


You got to lead them a bit
 
2012-11-12 05:12:24 AM  

Maybe you should drive: Vance Uppercut: gone from 10 murders to 12? Surprised that some farkster think this is alarming? no, sadly, fark is filled with idiots.

I admit that the article is written like a logic question in the GRE, but you don't seem to understand the facts. According to the information in the article, there were two murders from January 1, 2012 until an unknown date in July when cops were laid off (the exact date might be in there. I don't know). There have been 10 murders since that day in July until now, November 11, 2012.

This is a substantial spike. There is no way around that. Let's please remember that this is the framework for the discussion.

And please don't accuse a website of being filled with idiots when you are the one who can't understand a pretty simple fact.


My point stands, 10 extra murders is not a spike, it is a marginally bigger number. This summer, murder rates spiked all over the world. In Chicago, they have a couple hundred extra murders. Is that being pinned on Detroit police too? Windsor is geographically closer to Detroit, murder free for 2 years running. You could actually shoot a person in Windsor from Detroit. Windsor actually touches Detroit, Inkster doesn't.

The simple fact is that as soon as Detroit is mentioned here, a bunch of people are going to spin the conversation in a way that doesn't make sense.
 
2012-11-12 05:14:58 AM  
I am unimpressed. What's the excuse for 2000 when Inkster had 12 murders, 13 in 2005, and 11 in 2010? The police force was presumably at full strength during those years. Overall, the crime index has been steadily rising there so it is small miracle that only 12 people have been killed there this year. Based on all the comments from the resident crime experts shouldn't the murder rate be doubled since they lost half their force?

Unless you literally have a cop on every street corner the notion that police prevent violent crimes is fallacy.
 
2012-11-12 06:17:00 AM  
Wow....Things have really changed since the election....

Look at you all talking like you believe a story from Fox News....

;)
 
2012-11-12 06:58:45 AM  
I wish Inkster were a simple problem like "Too many unions" or "Too many Democrats" or "Too many Republicans" or "Too many dark people" or "Not enough cops" or "Taxes too high" or "Taxes too low" or "Too many greedy corporations." Inkster is a complex problem that does not lend itself to the simplistic thinking often found in internet comments sections.
 
2012-11-12 07:31:36 AM  
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-11-12 08:58:52 AM  
The state-sponsored gang retreats and the number of reported murders goes up? Shocking!

(It's not like the state-sponsored gang ever properly reported the people they were murdering)
 
2012-11-12 09:26:09 AM  

accelerus: a textbook example of what happens when you let crazy black people take over.


Or let Southern states pilfer auto plants?
 
2012-11-12 09:36:47 AM  

ex-nuke: Maybe you should drive: SoundOfOneHandWanking: I suppose if they get two more, it would be a 40% increase which is indeed a spike, but going from 10 to 12 isn't exactly the crimewave they imply

FTA:Since July, when the police force was cut in half, there have been 10 murders in Inkster, a Detroit suburb with a population of about 25,000. There have been 12 murders so far this year.


So, if this is accurate, there were 2 murders from January through the layoffs in July. There have 10 since the layoffs in July. That is, indeed, quite a spike.

And 12 murders in a year (so far) for a town of 25,000 is pretty bad no matter how you look at it.

Damn near as bad as Chicago. But the writer needs to be more accurate and specific. The term MURDER has implications that go beyond someone getting killed. It implies the targeted killing of a specific individual for some "reason" however bogus. Self defense may wind up with someone dead but that is not a murder. And mutual combat between two thugs over turf that leaves one of them dead may be homicide but doesn't rate being called murder either. "MURDER" without a qualifier is assumed to mean Murder in the first degree.


That's asking a lot from a press corps that refers to PD 9mm weapons as "service revolvers."
 
2012-11-12 11:50:49 AM  

AaronSynn: Look at you all talking like you believe a story from Fox News....


Murders? What murders? Nothing to see here. Move along...

/and we are not at war with Eurasia
 
2012-11-12 12:09:01 PM  
since this is reported on fox news, it means that the murder rate has in fact gone down.
this is good news.
 
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