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(Some Ranting Guy)   To improve ratings, primetime ESPN SportsCenter to include more debates, fewer game highlights and analysis. "Viewers look at jerks ranting. They snooze through NHL lockout discussions"   (sportsrantz.com) divider line 41
    More: Obvious, SportsCenter, ESPN, NHL lockout, NHL, Doug Gottlieb, Stuart Scott, Skip Bayless, evaluation  
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2012-11-11 08:51:30 PM  
I would have gone in a different direction. One that involved more sports highlights.
 
2012-11-11 08:55:08 PM  
Well, it's true. Thanks, stupid people and for sites like Deadspin which hang on every word ESPN says, and then create an internet "controversy" that only increases their ratings.
 
2012-11-11 09:05:20 PM  
I didn't think they could find a way to show even less NHL highlights. If ESPN loses the MLB contract, are they going to just flat out ignore it as well?
 
2012-11-11 09:08:23 PM  
As much as people can hate on ESPN (and they have done things to deserve it) as long as they don't touch my First Take I'm happy.
 
2012-11-11 09:11:21 PM  
So more Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless for everyone, is what you're saying? The Mayans might have been on to something.
 
2012-11-11 09:12:49 PM  
What a freakin mess
 
2012-11-11 09:16:46 PM  

W.C.fields forever: What a freakin mess


Whoopsie daisy..wrong thread..

//still works tho.
 
2012-11-11 09:18:11 PM  

LegacyDL: As much as people can hate on ESPN (and they have done things to deserve it) as long as they don't touch my First Take I'm happy.


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2012-11-11 09:30:14 PM  
I really can't say enough how much I hate First Take.

There aren't enough words. But mainly I can PROVE to you it sucks with two special instances that both happened this year:

1) Skip Bayless is getting completely owned by Mangini. The topic was the Dallas Cowboys and Romo. Mangini makes a perfectly explained point -- how does Bayless retort? "At least I didn't get fired twice as a coach."

2) Skip Bayless getting his ass handed to him by Marc Cuban, point-by-point explaining how Bayless doesn't know wtf he's talking about.

Both instances can be seen on youtube.

Those two instances plus Stephen A. Smith yelling all the damn time are why I no longer watch First Take and all the other versions of it.
 
2012-11-11 09:32:24 PM  
Here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv2jqFd2-qI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0owraF0xys

And ask CNN how their "let's debate this...oh we'll have to leave it right there" format is working for them now?

After a while the plebs catch on and ratings go down.
 
2012-11-11 09:33:38 PM  
Funny, I don't watch First take exactly for that reason.

To call ESPN a news organization is like calling the Onion a peer reviewed journal.

Sadly they have a virtual monopoly on the sports market, so this is probably where we are heading.
 
2012-11-11 09:41:57 PM  

redmond24: Here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv2jqFd2-qI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0owraF0xys

And ask CNN how their "let's debate this...oh we'll have to leave it right there" format is working for them now?

After a while the plebs catch on and ratings go down.


The way I look at it, when I need rational sports talk I go listen to sports radio where I know that most of what is spoken isn't completely off fringe. First Take is like watching Man vs Food, the premise is horrible yet somehow throughout the train wreck you find yourself fascinated by the spectacle of it all. The way Smith dickrides Kobe/LeBron, the way Bayless like you said can be clueless (especially when it pisses off Stephen A) is all entertaining.

As long as people treat it as spectacle instead of actual sports coverage everybody is happy.
 
2012-11-11 09:46:29 PM  
That's the exact reason I don't watch ESPN (unless they are broadcasting a game) because it's just a bunch of people talking about sports. Stupidest job on the planet - Sports Analyst.
 
2012-11-11 09:51:55 PM  

LegacyDL: redmond24: Here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv2jqFd2-qI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0owraF0xys

And ask CNN how their "let's debate this...oh we'll have to leave it right there" format is working for them now?

After a while the plebs catch on and ratings go down.

The way I look at it, when I need rational sports talk I go listen to sports radio where I know that most of what is spoken isn't completely off fringe. First Take is like watching Man vs Food, the premise is horrible yet somehow throughout the train wreck you find yourself fascinated by the spectacle of it all. The way Smith dickrides Kobe/LeBron, the way Bayless like you said can be clueless (especially when it pisses off Stephen A) is all entertaining.

As long as people treat it as spectacle instead of actual sports coverage everybody is happy.


This article is about how ESPN1 (SportsCenter) is now going to mimic the First Take model. So now your mindless entertainment is spreading to the actual sports coverage. THAT'S the problem with it.

And everybody isn't happy. As the article notes, Actual sports journalists on ESPN1 may be getting fired so Stephen A Smith and SkipBayless and their ilk will get more air time on ESPN1.

Its the same shyt that has happened with regular journalism. It becomes infotainment, emphasis on 'tainment. It dumbs our society down.

Idiocracy gets truer and truer every day.

You know who broke the Jerry Sandusky child rape scandal and Penn State's coverup? Not any of the supposed big journalism rags or tv stations, it was a little school paper in Pennsylvania. Who broke the John Edwards affair/scandal/FEC story? National Inquirer. It was somewhere next to a big foot expose.

Our society relies heavily on the 4th estate but the press is getting dumb as shiat.
 
2012-11-11 10:23:38 PM  
I thought they already did - isn't it called Sports Shouting?
 
2012-11-11 10:37:36 PM  
While I dislike it, I'm guessing that it gets better ratings than highlights. I haven't watched SportsCenter regularly since 2006. I want to watch baseball highlights? I can watch them on MLB.com, and it's a better recap than what ESPN gives me. And if I want ESPN's version, I can go to their site too. I can get better MLB, NFL, NBA and NHL (when they actually played hockey once in a while) highlights on the leagues' respective websites. I use ESPN.com for college football and basketball highlights and is my first stop for sports news. I enjoy things like power rankings and some of their discussions. Grantland has great in depth articles, but if I want highlights, I go straight to the source.
I used to love PTI I admit
 
2012-11-11 10:53:11 PM  
People need to switch to NBCSports. Once ESPN realizes they have to actually compete, they'll start showing Jersey Shore reruns.
 
2012-11-11 11:12:41 PM  

The Downfall: I can watch them on MLB.com, and it's a better recap than what ESPN gives me.


Do you not see how this is part of the problem? The reason ESPN sucks is BECAUSE THEY DON'T SHOW HIGHLIGHTS LIKE THEY USED TO. Granted, they wouldn't cover games for 5 minutes back in the 90s, but at least they covered them for a minute or two during light sports seasons. You didn't get 15 minutes of coverage of the SEC game of the week, then 15 seconds of coverage for half of the rest of the top 25.
 
2012-11-11 11:14:39 PM  
Oh, and ESPN reminds me of political pundits... they let polls and "scientific studies" (that should not be put in the same breath as the word "science") control what they do, and then let blind arrogance tell them that what they do is THE BEST option.

Maybe ESPN should just hire Nate Silver to fix their programming and punditry.
 
2012-11-11 11:52:35 PM  
My cable went out a couple months ago, and i haven't been in a hurry to fix it. So I never watch ESPN, and my life is better for it.

/only half kidding. They suck.
 
2012-11-12 12:08:46 AM  
SportsCenter has been crap for at least 8-10 years with all their sponsored "features". I stick to Highlight Express, which is, ironically, what SportsCenter used to be.

/shame America doesn't have Gillette World Sports Special
//ESPN ignores sports for which it doesn't have a broadcast contract
 
2012-11-12 12:17:30 AM  

Trocadero: I didn't think they could find a way to show even less NHL highlights.


Don't know why you are biatching. They showed every game played tonight.
 
2012-11-12 12:35:53 AM  
The moran who thought that "Embrace Debate" is a good idea at ESPN should have his head examined. It's a farking waste of time, space AND air. PTI is fine because they're actually entertaining at the same time. All the other shows are flaming piles of shiat, especially the daily morning train wreck First Take (and the faster Skip "I want to make gay love to Tebow" Bayless and Stephen Asshole Smith are resigned to living a cardboard box in Brooklyn, the better).

Now to spread it to the flagship show? All I can say is PLEASE NBC, start kicking ESPN's ass soon.

/can't believe I'm backing a Comcast owned network
//But I'd rather have my teeth pulled than hear another Tebow debate
 
2012-11-12 01:15:45 AM  
Could someone please start a viable alternative to ESPN soon?

Oh, and one for MTV too while you're at it.

Thanks.
 
2012-11-12 01:31:04 AM  

theurge14: Oh, and one for MTV too while you're at it.


Youtube and Pandora.
 
2012-11-12 01:34:49 AM  

Opiate of the Lasses: SportsCenter has been crap for at least 8-10 years with all their sponsored "features". I stick to Highlight Express, which is, ironically, what SportsCenter used to be.

/shame America doesn't have Gillette World Sports Special
//ESPN ignores sports for which it doesn't have a broadcast contract


Yeah I used to have it on every morning, hell I would be late to work some mornings because I wanted to see another highlight. Now I never watch at all unless a game is on.

I do agree they ignore sports they no longer broadcast, I'm kind of pissed I can't watch rugby or Australian rules football anymore. But they keep pushing soccer on us, they should ease the market into foreign sports and give us rugby Dammit!
 
2012-11-12 03:45:31 AM  

theurge14: Could someone please start a viable alternative to ESPN soon?

Oh, and one for MTV too while you're at it.

Thanks.


Fox is about to launch a national sports cable channel. NBC already has one it just started. Expect both of the latter to start chasing after the major league sports as well as more college sports, golf and racing. Choice is on the way.
 
2012-11-12 05:18:54 AM  
Remember when there was just one ESPN channel?

Only took about one hour per day to be up to date on all sports.

That worked so well they fixed it several times.
 
2012-11-12 06:02:09 AM  
You guys remember when MTV did the same thing? If I recall, the first stage of the conversion of MTH-"music" to MTV-"shiat that it is right now" was the introduction of reality TV on a small scale (MTV-Real World vs ESPN-Training Days (upcoming) and several "follow this high school team through its season with lots of drama" type shows), fan involvement (MTV-TRL, ESPN-Sportsnation) and social awareness (MTV-can't remember particulars, but there were lots of dumb PSA-like shows, and ESPN-360 and outside the lines). When they start showing fan shows, the conversion to a "lifestyle" channel will be complete.

On the bright side, we should be getting Claire Danes on ESPN really soon.
 
2012-11-12 08:06:54 AM  

iron_city_ap: People need to switch to NBCSports. Once ESPN realizes they have to actually compete, they'll start showing Jersey Shore reruns.


So much this. NBC Sports has interesting things like college hockey and Canadian football.

Granted, if they get good ratings, they'd be able to compete for "bigger" sports and stop showing cool things like college hockey and Canadian football...
 
2012-11-12 09:08:10 AM  

LegacyDL: First Take is like watching Man vs Food, the premise is horrible yet somehow throughout the train wreck you find yourself fascinated by the spectacle of it all.


Um, the premise behind Man vs Food is great. Food challenges are awesome.
 
2012-11-12 09:17:20 AM  

IAmRight: LegacyDL: First Take is like watching Man vs Food, the premise is horrible yet somehow throughout the train wreck you find yourself fascinated by the spectacle of it all.

Um, the premise behind Man vs Food is great. Food challenges are awesome.


That guy is either bulimic, or spends all of his off-camera time on a treadmill. Not saying he looks like he's in great shape, but he looks better than he deserves to.
 
2012-11-12 09:27:07 AM  

TheJoe03: theurge14: Oh, and one for MTV too while you're at it.

Youtube and Pandora.


Clicking on stuff I already listen to isn't how new music is discovered. There's nothing on Youtube that's like MTV's Buzzworthy videos used to be. Unless 8 solid weeks of Gangnam Style is it.
 
2012-11-12 09:29:07 AM  

born_yesterday: That guy is either bulimic, or spends all of his off-camera time on a treadmill. Not saying he looks like he's in great shape, but he looks better than he deserves to.


I dunno, he looked to have visibly gained 50 or so pounds after a few seasons. (I haven't watched in a while, admittedly)

/gotta have rotating hosts or something - not really possible to have it as a long-term show (in that regard, I suppose it's a bad idea)
 
2012-11-12 10:17:06 AM  
ESPN turned into the TMZ of Sports. I cant stand watching a second of any of their talking heads.
 
2012-11-12 10:56:58 AM  
Sounds like MTV. Viewers liked videos, but had slowly stopped watching them, so they went for a different audience (teen girls) and reversed their rating decline, even if the "music" part of their name got less and less appropriate. History Channel, AMC - you survive by chasing the eyeballs... no matter how strange or stupid those might be.
 
2012-11-12 04:05:38 PM  
I miss when Sportscenter showed sports.
 
2012-11-12 04:20:45 PM  
Sports highlights cost money to license. ESPN doesn't like to spend money. Thus the reason why there are fewer and fewer sport highlights on ESPN.
 
2012-11-12 04:49:50 PM  

theurge14: There's nothing on Youtube that's like MTV's Buzzworthy videos used to be. Unless 8 solid weeks of Gangnam Style is it.


That's why the second thing I listed was Pandora. If you can't find new music through that then you are hopeless. They might not be videos but once you find enough new music through Pandora you can look up the videos on youtube if you want, I prefer this system better. Internet killed the video star.
 
2012-11-12 07:16:32 PM  

born_yesterday: IAmRight: LegacyDL: First Take is like watching Man vs Food, the premise is horrible yet somehow throughout the train wreck you find yourself fascinated by the spectacle of it all.

Um, the premise behind Man vs Food is great. Food challenges are awesome.

That guy is either bulimic, or spends all of his off-camera time on a treadmill. Not saying he looks like he's in great shape, but he looks better than he deserves to.


He said he doesn't eat much during non-filming days, and I imagine after completing one of the challenges he doesn't have to eat for another 2-3 days.
 
2012-11-13 06:12:46 PM  
If this crappy new ESPN approach gets good enough ratings though I assume NBCSports and whatever Fox is doing will just try and copy it.

That'll mean THREE Sports channels showing idiotic jock-sniffers yelling at each other all day... great
 
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