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(Townhall)   Now given the new recount, after they forgot to count certain early ballots, 141% voter turnout in Democrat areas, and other irregularities, Allen West might, might win   (townhall.com) divider line 30
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2012-11-11 03:24:50 PM
11 votes:
Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election: you've wrap yourselves up into a comfortable fantasy world instead of facing facts. I would've thought Tuesday's results would have broken you out of your bubble...but, a lot of you seem to want to double down on the derp.
2012-11-11 03:32:09 PM
4 votes:
That's convicted war criminal Allen West to you subby.
2012-11-11 05:38:02 PM
3 votes:
Repubs are just pissed that their voter fraud wasn't enough to overcome the electorate margin.
2012-11-11 06:20:59 PM
2 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: eraser8: Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election:

Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.
The reason why there are so many GOP governors, is that they got more votes.


The Democrats got 500,000 more votes in the House than Republicans, but gerrymandering allowed the Republicans to keep their lead.
2012-11-11 06:08:23 PM
2 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.


No.

The Democrats got more votes: Democratic House Candidates Received More Votes Than Republicans

The reason Republicans have maintained their majority can be summed up by one word: Gerrymandering.
2012-11-11 05:50:21 PM
2 votes:

mrlewish: Repubs are just pissed that their voter fraud wasn't enough to overcome the electorate margin.


That is so much what Karl Rove's denial sounded like. It wasas if he knew the fix was supposed to be in for Romney, and he's utterly confused by how it failed.
2012-11-11 05:45:50 PM
2 votes:

Fool_Marquis: I'm going to regret asking this:

Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

...

Anyone out there have a third explanation?


It's just math that Republicans do to make themselves feel better.
2012-11-11 05:41:06 PM
2 votes:

Fool_Marquis: Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?


No, because there weren't.
2012-11-11 05:01:01 PM
2 votes:
Hm. 182% turnout does sound a little hinky at first glance.

However.... "TURNOUT PERCENTAGES WILL SHOW OVER 100% DUE TO A TWO PAGE BALLOT. NOT ALL VOTERS VOTED THE SECOND CARD CONTAINING THE AMENDMENTS."
2012-11-11 03:28:39 PM
2 votes:
Don't listen to the posters above me, submitter. They are clearly part of the liberal conspiracy against Allen West. All of his supporters need to double and triple down on this as hard as they can so the rats won't steal another victory from a true patriot. You should be as loud about this as often as you can, and accept no other outcome aside from Allen West being elected.

Godspeed.
2012-11-11 02:16:38 PM
2 votes:
Subby should feel bad.

Not as bad as Townhall, but bad anyway.
2012-11-11 10:35:40 PM
1 votes:

Proteios1: Being a Wisconsinite I can tell you the reason for voter IDs is because there are 2 votes for every democrat. The reality, contrary to what stand up comics on the daily show dictate to loyal lemmings, is fraud is rampant and blue.


Well I'm from Wisonconsin, and I can tell you that voter fraud is extremely rare and not a real problem. What happens when two people from Wisconsin disagree? This one is tough given we both have extremely solid evidence, being from Wisconsin and all.
2012-11-11 08:20:10 PM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: eraser8: Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election:

Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.


That's false. Democratic congressional candidates got more votes. The GOP held the House pretty much solely because of the amount of gerrymandering they were able to get away with in 2010.

That said, Democrats managed to gain seats in both the House and the Senate, in addition to retaining the White House. So it would be absurd to suggest that House Republicans gave any kind of mandate. They still lost seats, in spite of the extreme gerrymanders.
2012-11-11 07:34:20 PM
1 votes:

eraser8: Damnit.

I mistakenly clicked "for" this link...despite the fact that I think smitty is a moronic dick-drip.


You're off my favorites list now. You can't take that back.

So... how much money do I have to give to Drew to get rid of TownHall links entirely? I mean, I know it's gotta be more than what they're paying him. Page clicks alone can't account for it. I hope.

/cue "trying to hide the truth", etc.
//I just really want some factual conservative links, please Or at least some with one foot in reality. I'd be okay with that.
2012-11-11 07:29:48 PM
1 votes:

abb3w: quatchi: The GOP's inability to be an inclusive political party that opens it's doors to non-whites

...you have seen a photo of Allen West before?


Yup and Condi Rice and Mia Love and Colin Powell and Dick Keyes and Herman Cain and Micheal Steele, etc, etc.

I've also seen the sea of old, white faces that filled the GOP's nomination convention and political rallies this year.

I've seen a far more representative sampling of America at the Dem ones.

I've also seen how the various demographics voted here in 2012 as well.

I can also see a church by daylight if that helps.

*blink* 

The writing on the wall. Can you see it?
2012-11-11 06:05:59 PM
1 votes:

Relatively Obscure: RyogaM: While Republicans hung onto control of the House of Representatives after Tuesday's election, Democratic candidates across the U.S. received more total votes than Republican candidates did.

While not all ballots have been counted, Democrats hold an edge over Republicans in overall votes. According to ThinkProgress, 53,952,240 votes were cast for Democratic candidates, while Republican candidates received 53,402,643. However, thanks in part to redistricting, Republicans will hold more than half the seats in the House while receiving less than half of overall votes.

Link

Old data?

That seems like a really, really dumb way to look at House elections, anyway.


It is. It is the counter to the equally stupid argument that because the Republicans continue to control the House, that the majority of Americans do not agree with Obama's policies and he does not have a mandate.
2012-11-11 05:54:44 PM
1 votes:
Jesus these people are pathetic. It's not even that close of a race. The current spread is .58% according to the Florida SOS. An auto recount isn't even triggered until .5%, and historically in order to actually flip a result you have to be well within .1%.

For example, the only two result flips in recounts in the 2000s have been the Franken Senatorial race in 2008 and the Gregoire Washington gubernatorial race in 2004. Franken went in down by .007%. Gregoire went in down by .01%

In other words, West lost. Deal with it.
2012-11-11 05:52:02 PM
1 votes:
If my guys were 100% wrong in their mathematical projections, I would be looking for better guys to do the math. I wouldn't be looking for guys intent on proving that the bad math was really good math.
2012-11-11 05:50:39 PM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.
The reason why there are so many GOP governors, is that they got more votes.


Well... I'm sure your mom thinks you're clever, anyway.
2012-11-11 05:49:56 PM
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: eraser8: Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election:

Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.
The reason why there are so many GOP governors, is that they got more votes.


Can you at least agree that "information" from Townhall should, at the very minimum, be exhaustively verified before accepting it? I mean, this bit of derp is horrifically stupid. I mean, you realize why people just simply dismiss Townhall out of hand, right?
2012-11-11 05:48:01 PM
1 votes:
It is STAGGERING, that such a simple, indisputable, factual explanation is entirely disregarded by some. And the doubling-down on it. I'm speechless.
2012-11-11 05:43:24 PM
1 votes:

Relatively Obscure: Fool_Marquis: Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

No, because there weren't.


I examined the report itself. The 140.92% total is of "cards cast", not of votes cast which, as is explained at the site, is a result of a two-page ballot.
2012-11-11 05:42:43 PM
1 votes:
Tea Party strategy firmed up months before the election.

Part of the strategy is to have talking points, radio and tv ads, letters to the editor all in the can well before the election.

The negative attack campaign style continues with no end in sight. Welcome to the Tea Party Post-Election Insurgency Binge.
2012-11-11 05:42:24 PM
1 votes:

Fool_Marquis: I'm going to regret asking this:

Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

Or do you doubt the veracity of this detail of the story? Townhall is probably about as reliable of a source as The Register, but it does list several verifiable facts and figures, such as the location (St. Lucie county), the registered voting population (175,554) and the number of ballots cast (247,713). This isn't hard, all we have to do to confirm or deny is contact the state's supervisor of election (Gertrude Walker), or her office. We can't do that monday because, well, federal holiday, but Tuesday we could make such contact...

I don't give a shiat about Al West or whoever is running in a given district. Not my state, so it has no effect on me. I'm much, much more worried about the state of our electoral system... either the ballot boxes were ludicrously stuffed, or else someone farked up the count and double-counted close to half the ballots.

If the latter, then yeah, they need to be fired (but probably won't be since... government job), if the former... how could we prevent such fraud from occurring again?

Anyone out there have a third explanation?


When Michelle Malkin is denying claims of left-wing voter fraud...you know TownHall's waaaaaay off the rails. Link
2012-11-11 05:41:03 PM
1 votes:
2012-11-11 05:40:12 PM
1 votes:

Fool_Marquis: I
Anyone out there have a third explanation?


Yes.
2012-11-11 05:27:19 PM
1 votes:
We get it. He's black...
2012-11-11 03:39:34 PM
1 votes:
Just how bad do you have to suck to lose an election as a Republican in Florida? His district is GOP +4. Every method possible was used to restrict voting of Democratic groups. And yet there was somehow a Democratic surge of control in this district only that allowed 140% of the electorate to turn out? It's like saying that Republicans took over a precinct in Massachusetts and stole an election.
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-11 02:44:49 PM
1 votes:
2012-11-11 02:09:15 PM
1 votes:
Um, no.
 
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