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(Townhall)   Now given the new recount, after they forgot to count certain early ballots, 141% voter turnout in Democrat areas, and other irregularities, Allen West might, might win   (townhall.com) divider line 126
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2012-11-11 02:09:15 PM
Um, no.
 
2012-11-11 02:16:38 PM
Subby should feel bad.

Not as bad as Townhall, but bad anyway.
 
2012-11-11 02:34:30 PM
Uh huh.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-11 02:44:49 PM
 
2012-11-11 02:47:28 PM
Keep telling yourself that. These folks have never steered you wrong before!
 
2012-11-11 03:24:50 PM
Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election: you've wrap yourselves up into a comfortable fantasy world instead of facing facts. I would've thought Tuesday's results would have broken you out of your bubble...but, a lot of you seem to want to double down on the derp.
 
2012-11-11 03:28:39 PM
Don't listen to the posters above me, submitter. They are clearly part of the liberal conspiracy against Allen West. All of his supporters need to double and triple down on this as hard as they can so the rats won't steal another victory from a true patriot. You should be as loud about this as often as you can, and accept no other outcome aside from Allen West being elected.

Godspeed.
 
2012-11-11 03:32:09 PM
That's convicted war criminal Allen West to you subby.
 
2012-11-11 03:34:18 PM
glwt
 
2012-11-11 03:39:34 PM
Just how bad do you have to suck to lose an election as a Republican in Florida? His district is GOP +4. Every method possible was used to restrict voting of Democratic groups. And yet there was somehow a Democratic surge of control in this district only that allowed 140% of the electorate to turn out? It's like saying that Republicans took over a precinct in Massachusetts and stole an election.
 
2012-11-11 03:39:54 PM
i love it when conservatives intentionally misuse the noun democrat as an adjective. it's so... derpy. and it makes my schadenfreude in their total and abject failure that much more sweet.
 
2012-11-11 03:49:05 PM
The comments are priceless:

GOT AIDS YET, COMMIE?

The Conservative mindset, everyone.
 
2012-11-11 04:25:02 PM
Yeah, Townhall also thought Romney would win.
I'd LOVE to take the time and congratulate all the losers in the Townhall.com threads who said things like:

Georock Wrote: Nov 06, 2012 7:28 AM
Dear LORD,

Please bar satan from our voting places and allow free people to decide our fate. Forgive us LORD for our transgressions (abortion and gay marriage) and allow your people to stand up against tyranny and unrighteous behavior. Allow your people the opportunity for a new beginning by voting your morals, ethics, and values.

We have had enough of bad government. Give Romney the winds to fill his sails to victory for the good of the country.

In Jesus' name..Amen


OR

Harold15 Wrote: Nov 06, 2012 6:00 AM
He (probably through his surrogates) will scream racism and claim that he lost because he's black. I'll also bet he sues to have the election overturned and he being declared the winner, citing that you can not deny a man a job based on race. The left doesn't lose gracefully.


OR

Cal29 Wrote: Nov 05, 2012 9:18 PM
Romney will win handily with 300 .

Lib-trolls, (like the one just below this post) you are soon out of a job.

Booooooooooo. Hooooooooooo.
 
2012-11-11 04:58:11 PM
Now that there is a recount being conducted, West has the option to contest the election if fraud or misconduct may have changed the result, whether or not the recount changes the outcome of the election.

www.infobarrel.com

That poor, poor chicken.

RIP.

/Hot.
 
2012-11-11 05:01:01 PM
Hm. 182% turnout does sound a little hinky at first glance.

However.... "TURNOUT PERCENTAGES WILL SHOW OVER 100% DUE TO A TWO PAGE BALLOT. NOT ALL VOTERS VOTED THE SECOND CARD CONTAINING THE AMENDMENTS."
 
2012-11-11 05:08:20 PM

quatchi: Now that there is a recount being conducted, West has the option to contest the election if fraud or misconduct may have changed the result, whether or not the recount changes the outcome of the election.

[www.infobarrel.com image 400x300]

That poor, poor chicken.

RIP.

/Hot.


It's a crime:

www.bitlogic.com
 
2012-11-11 05:23:10 PM
 
2012-11-11 05:25:30 PM
Because Town Hall was on target with all their reporting prior to the election.
 
2012-11-11 05:26:16 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: For you, subby and Clownhall.


Given TownHall's recent success with numbers and elections, I'm gonna go ahead and say this article bodes very well for Murphy.
 
2012-11-11 05:27:19 PM
We get it. He's black...
 
2012-11-11 05:28:02 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Because Town Hall was on target with all their reporting prior to the election.


YouAreItNoTagBacks: A Dark Evil Omen: For you, subby and Clownhall.

Given TownHall's recent success with numbers and elections, I'm gonna go ahead and say this article bodes very well for Murphy.


Well-played Rufus.
 
2012-11-11 05:35:07 PM
Unlikely tag suppressed at the polls?
 
2012-11-11 05:36:00 PM

abb3w: Hm. 182% turnout does sound a little hinky at first glance.

However.... "TURNOUT PERCENTAGES WILL SHOW OVER 100% DUE TO A TWO PAGE BALLOT. NOT ALL VOTERS VOTED THE SECOND CARD CONTAINING THE AMENDMENTS."


Conservative blogs are also reporting a 108% turnout in Wood County in Ohio. I suspect the claim to be similarly reliable when compared with actual reality.
 
2012-11-11 05:36:32 PM
I hope this childish whining and constant talk of election fraud lasts for at least six months. It brings me such joy. I'm like a kid in candy store reading TownHall and FreeRepublic
 
2012-11-11 05:38:02 PM
Repubs are just pissed that their voter fraud wasn't enough to overcome the electorate margin.
 
2012-11-11 05:38:33 PM
I'm going to regret asking this:

Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

Or do you doubt the veracity of this detail of the story? Townhall is probably about as reliable of a source as The Register, but it does list several verifiable facts and figures, such as the location (St. Lucie county), the registered voting population (175,554) and the number of ballots cast (247,713). This isn't hard, all we have to do to confirm or deny is contact the state's supervisor of election (Gertrude Walker), or her office. We can't do that monday because, well, federal holiday, but Tuesday we could make such contact...

I don't give a shiat about Al West or whoever is running in a given district. Not my state, so it has no effect on me. I'm much, much more worried about the state of our electoral system... either the ballot boxes were ludicrously stuffed, or else someone farked up the count and double-counted close to half the ballots.

If the latter, then yeah, they need to be fired (but probably won't be since... government job), if the former... how could we prevent such fraud from occurring again?

Anyone out there have a third explanation?
 
2012-11-11 05:38:51 PM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: That's convicted war criminal Allen West to you subby.


subby thinks war is like 24, so that's not going to resonate with him.
 
2012-11-11 05:40:12 PM

Fool_Marquis: I
Anyone out there have a third explanation?


Yes.
 
2012-11-11 05:40:15 PM

vartian: The comments are priceless:

GOT AIDS YET, COMMIE?

The Conservative mindset, everyone.


I liked this one...

Sara181 wrote: The disgraced former Lt. Colonel Allen West will be joining Herman Cain on radio. They will be known as Cain and Unable.
 
2012-11-11 05:40:19 PM
Any time I read Town Hall I feel like I'm wearing an old timey diving suit and narrating like I'm Jacques Coustea. "I have just entered the Derpesphere..."
 
2012-11-11 05:41:03 PM
 
2012-11-11 05:41:06 PM

Fool_Marquis: Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?


No, because there weren't.
 
2012-11-11 05:42:24 PM

Fool_Marquis: I'm going to regret asking this:

Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

Or do you doubt the veracity of this detail of the story? Townhall is probably about as reliable of a source as The Register, but it does list several verifiable facts and figures, such as the location (St. Lucie county), the registered voting population (175,554) and the number of ballots cast (247,713). This isn't hard, all we have to do to confirm or deny is contact the state's supervisor of election (Gertrude Walker), or her office. We can't do that monday because, well, federal holiday, but Tuesday we could make such contact...

I don't give a shiat about Al West or whoever is running in a given district. Not my state, so it has no effect on me. I'm much, much more worried about the state of our electoral system... either the ballot boxes were ludicrously stuffed, or else someone farked up the count and double-counted close to half the ballots.

If the latter, then yeah, they need to be fired (but probably won't be since... government job), if the former... how could we prevent such fraud from occurring again?

Anyone out there have a third explanation?


When Michelle Malkin is denying claims of left-wing voter fraud...you know TownHall's waaaaaay off the rails. Link
 
2012-11-11 05:42:24 PM

Notabunny: vartian: The comments are priceless:

GOT AIDS YET, COMMIE?

The Conservative mindset, everyone.

I liked this one...

Sara181 wrote: The disgraced former Lt. Colonel Allen West will be joining Herman Cain on radio. They will be known as Cain and Unable.


What is her Fark handle so I can get her upgraded to TF?
 
2012-11-11 05:42:43 PM
Tea Party strategy firmed up months before the election.

Part of the strategy is to have talking points, radio and tv ads, letters to the editor all in the can well before the election.

The negative attack campaign style continues with no end in sight. Welcome to the Tea Party Post-Election Insurgency Binge.
 
2012-11-11 05:43:08 PM
img3.owned.com
 
2012-11-11 05:43:24 PM

Relatively Obscure: Fool_Marquis: Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

No, because there weren't.


I examined the report itself. The 140.92% total is of "cards cast", not of votes cast which, as is explained at the site, is a result of a two-page ballot.
 
2012-11-11 05:43:27 PM

Fool_Marquis: Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?


There weren't, so no.
 
2012-11-11 05:44:34 PM

Dimensio: Relatively Obscure: Fool_Marquis: Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

No, because there weren't.

I examined the report itself. The 140.92% total is of "cards cast", not of votes cast which, as is explained at the site, is a result of a two-page ballot.


In fact, if you go down further in the report, it actually lists 'registered voters' and 'votes counted' and it's all perfectly normal.
 
2012-11-11 05:44:49 PM
i221.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-11 05:45:31 PM

Fool_Marquis: Townhall is probably about as reliable of a source as The Register


A more reliable source of information than Townhall would result if you started reading my morning turds like tea leaves.

Until it shows up from a source that doesn't spend the majority of its time lying, I don't give a flying fark. All the Conservative Little sites like Townhall can go fark themselves because if a site like Townhall told me the sky was still blue today, I'd go outside and check just to be sure. 

Funny how when a website spends all its time lying people stop worrying about anything it says after awhile, huh?
 
2012-11-11 05:45:50 PM

Fool_Marquis: I'm going to regret asking this:

Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

...

Anyone out there have a third explanation?


It's just math that Republicans do to make themselves feel better.
 
2012-11-11 05:46:14 PM

eraser8: Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election:


Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.
The reason why there are so many GOP governors, is that they got more votes.
 
2012-11-11 05:46:29 PM

Fool_Marquis: Townhall is probably about as reliable of a source as The Register,


Blasphemy! El Reg is way more reliable than Townhall.
 
2012-11-11 05:46:44 PM

Erix: Fool_Marquis: I'm going to regret asking this:

Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

...

Anyone out there have a third explanation?

It's just math that Republicans do to make themselves feel better.


I would sponsor you were you not already a TotalFarker.
 
2012-11-11 05:48:01 PM
It is STAGGERING, that such a simple, indisputable, factual explanation is entirely disregarded by some. And the doubling-down on it. I'm speechless.
 
2012-11-11 05:48:03 PM

Fool_Marquis: I'm going to regret asking this:

Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

Or do you doubt the veracity of this detail of the story? Townhall is probably about as reliable of a source as The Register, but it does list several verifiable facts and figures, such as the location (St. Lucie county), the registered voting population (175,554) and the number of ballots cast (247,713). This isn't hard, all we have to do to confirm or deny is contact the state's supervisor of election (Gertrude Walker), or her office. We can't do that monday because, well, federal holiday, but Tuesday we could make such contact...

I don't give a shiat about Al West or whoever is running in a given district. Not my state, so it has no effect on me. I'm much, much more worried about the state of our electoral system... either the ballot boxes were ludicrously stuffed, or else someone farked up the count and double-counted close to half the ballots.

If the latter, then yeah, they need to be fired (but probably won't be since... government job), if the former... how could we prevent such fraud from occurring again?

Anyone out there have a third explanation?


In St Lucie is it not Votes Cast vs Voters it is Cards Cast. In that district the Ballot measures were on a second card. If everyone had voted for everything they could it would have been 200% in this particular election.

As previously stated http://www.slcelections.com/ has a note about this and the language on the reports confirms this

If you look at the votes vs registered/eligible for each section (Presidential/Senate etc) they are always under.
 
2012-11-11 05:49:03 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: eraser8: Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election:

Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.
The reason why there are so many GOP governors, is that they got more votes.


Had a good cry the last four-five days?
 
2012-11-11 05:49:56 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: eraser8: Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election:

Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.
The reason why there are so many GOP governors, is that they got more votes.


Can you at least agree that "information" from Townhall should, at the very minimum, be exhaustively verified before accepting it? I mean, this bit of derp is horrifically stupid. I mean, you realize why people just simply dismiss Townhall out of hand, right?
 
2012-11-11 05:50:21 PM

mrlewish: Repubs are just pissed that their voter fraud wasn't enough to overcome the electorate margin.


That is so much what Karl Rove's denial sounded like. It wasas if he knew the fix was supposed to be in for Romney, and he's utterly confused by how it failed.
 
2012-11-11 05:50:39 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.
The reason why there are so many GOP governors, is that they got more votes.


Well... I'm sure your mom thinks you're clever, anyway.
 
2012-11-11 05:51:21 PM

theknuckler_33: Can you at least agree that "information" from Townhall should, at the very minimum, be exhaustively verified before accepting it? I mean, this bit of derp is horrifically stupid. I mean, you realize why people just simply dismiss Townhall out of hand, right?


Because they're LIBERALS that's why.
 
2012-11-11 05:51:23 PM

vpb: Nope


lol
 
2012-11-11 05:52:02 PM
If my guys were 100% wrong in their mathematical projections, I would be looking for better guys to do the math. I wouldn't be looking for guys intent on proving that the bad math was really good math.
 
2012-11-11 05:52:05 PM
While Republicans hung onto control of the House of Representatives after Tuesday's election, Democratic candidates across the U.S. received more total votes than Republican candidates did.

While not all ballots have been counted, Democrats hold an edge over Republicans in overall votes. According to ThinkProgress, 53,952,240 votes were cast for Democratic candidates, while Republican candidates received 53,402,643. However, thanks in part to redistricting, Republicans will hold more than half the seats in the House while receiving less than half of overall votes.


Link

Old data?
 
2012-11-11 05:52:27 PM
I am really starting to hope that he's going to call for a second amendment solution once he realizes that he won't win. Either that or he's going to barricade himself in his Washington office until the SWAT team is sent in to extract him and his citizen volunteers that are protecting him. Mr West, please turn the derp up past 11 and show the American public who the Tea party really is.
 
2012-11-11 05:53:41 PM

RyogaM: While Republicans hung onto control of the House of Representatives after Tuesday's election, Democratic candidates across the U.S. received more total votes than Republican candidates did.

While not all ballots have been counted, Democrats hold an edge over Republicans in overall votes. According to ThinkProgress, 53,952,240 votes were cast for Democratic candidates, while Republican candidates received 53,402,643. However, thanks in part to redistricting, Republicans will hold more than half the seats in the House while receiving less than half of overall votes.

Link

Old data?


That seems like a really, really dumb way to look at House elections, anyway.
 
2012-11-11 05:54:03 PM
Farkers just need to keep the derp links so that they can be recycled for the next Faux News controversy.
 
2012-11-11 05:54:11 PM

Satanic_Hamster: theknuckler_33: Can you at least agree that "information" from Townhall should, at the very minimum, be exhaustively verified before accepting it? I mean, this bit of derp is horrifically stupid. I mean, you realize why people just simply dismiss Townhall out of hand, right?

Because they're LIBERALS that's why.


So, intelligent. Of course.
 
2012-11-11 05:54:32 PM

red230: I am really starting to hope that he's going to call for a second amendment solution once he realizes that he won't win. Either that or he's going to barricade himself in his Washington office until the SWAT team is sent in to extract him and his citizen volunteers that are protecting him. Mr West, please turn the derp up past 11 and show the American public who the Tea party really is.


If you're really starting to hope that, you're really kind of weird.
 
2012-11-11 05:54:44 PM
Jesus these people are pathetic. It's not even that close of a race. The current spread is .58% according to the Florida SOS. An auto recount isn't even triggered until .5%, and historically in order to actually flip a result you have to be well within .1%.

For example, the only two result flips in recounts in the 2000s have been the Franken Senatorial race in 2008 and the Gregoire Washington gubernatorial race in 2004. Franken went in down by .007%. Gregoire went in down by .01%

In other words, West lost. Deal with it.
 
2012-11-11 05:57:32 PM

Dimensio: I would sponsor you were you not already a TotalFarker.


Hah thanks, and here I was just blindsided with a Total Farking last week... productivity is shot for the next three.
 
2012-11-11 05:59:45 PM
Allen West could very well win...
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the contest of who I'd most like to kiss my ass.
 
2012-11-11 05:59:51 PM
That looks legit
 
2012-11-11 06:05:59 PM

Relatively Obscure: RyogaM: While Republicans hung onto control of the House of Representatives after Tuesday's election, Democratic candidates across the U.S. received more total votes than Republican candidates did.

While not all ballots have been counted, Democrats hold an edge over Republicans in overall votes. According to ThinkProgress, 53,952,240 votes were cast for Democratic candidates, while Republican candidates received 53,402,643. However, thanks in part to redistricting, Republicans will hold more than half the seats in the House while receiving less than half of overall votes.

Link

Old data?

That seems like a really, really dumb way to look at House elections, anyway.


It is. It is the counter to the equally stupid argument that because the Republicans continue to control the House, that the majority of Americans do not agree with Obama's policies and he does not have a mandate.
 
2012-11-11 06:08:23 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.


No.

The Democrats got more votes: Democratic House Candidates Received More Votes Than Republicans

The reason Republicans have maintained their majority can be summed up by one word: Gerrymandering.
 
2012-11-11 06:09:34 PM
Here's another American Tay Party Idol refusing math results. Is Rep. West offering to pay for more recounts, considering he did run for less government spending.
 
2012-11-11 06:10:02 PM
LOL:

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National Barack Channel

Communist News Network

MSLSD


Look it up.

Must Carry, they must be defunded, the Communists in Congress made it a Law that if you have a tv package, then the Communist Channels will be funded, in part, from your monthly payments."
 
2012-11-11 06:11:01 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: DubyaHater:

freep-impact.blogspot.com

enjoy


I like this one:

recounts and an investigation shoudl have been done in FL,WI,OH,VA,NM,PA because there is no way these results add up and no matter how many times the trolls or cowards on here try and tell us that we have to move on or try to justify this fraud tne it does nto mean we still cannot pressure the GOP and talk radio and true the vote and FOX

big-kahuna-ventures.com
 
2012-11-11 06:16:08 PM
According to Unskewed Polls, Subby is right.
 
2012-11-11 06:18:50 PM
Damnit.

I mistakenly clicked "for" this link...despite the fact that I think smitty is a moronic dick-drip.
 
2012-11-11 06:19:24 PM

blackminded: Kumana Wanalaia: DubyaHater:

freep-impact.blogspot.com

enjoy

I like this one:

recounts and an investigation shoudl have been done in FL,WI,OH,VA,NM,PA because there is no way these results add up and no matter how many times the trolls or cowards on here try and tell us that we have to move on or try to justify this fraud tne it does nto mean we still cannot pressure the GOP and talk radio and true the vote and FOX

[big-kahuna-ventures.com image 147x104]


Excuse me, but I need to borrow that for another thread.
 
2012-11-11 06:20:59 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: eraser8: Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election:

Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.
The reason why there are so many GOP governors, is that they got more votes.


The Democrats got 500,000 more votes in the House than Republicans, but gerrymandering allowed the Republicans to keep their lead.
 
2012-11-11 06:22:08 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: eraser8: Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election:

Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.
The reason why there are so many GOP governors, is that they got more votes.


The reason why everyone laughs at you is that...wait, never mind. There's not really any disagreement here.
 
2012-11-11 06:23:11 PM

vartian: Don't listen to the posters above me, submitter. They are clearly part of the liberal conspiracy against Allen West. All of his supporters need to double and triple down on this as hard as they can so the rats won't steal another victory from a true patriot. You should be as loud about this as often as you can, and accept no other outcome aside from Allen West being elected.

Godspeed.


+fav. I award you one internet.
 
2012-11-11 06:25:19 PM

blackminded: Kumana Wanalaia: DubyaHater:

freep-impact.blogspot.com

enjoy

I like this one:

recounts and an investigation shoudl have been done in FL,WI,OH,VA,NM,PA because there is no way these results add up and no matter how many times the trolls or cowards on here try and tell us that we have to move on or try to justify this fraud tne it does nto mean we still cannot pressure the GOP and talk radio and true the vote and FOX

[big-kahuna-ventures.com image 147x104]


They speak of going Galt like they're getting a new haircut.
 
2012-11-11 06:28:47 PM
http://freep-impact.blogspot.com/

"And now we are going to be taxed to death. And since our girls are all 0bama fans, they are going to be written out of my half of the trust,,,,no one who supports this kind of nation will get anything of mine..not even the lint in my dryer."
 
2012-11-11 06:30:58 PM

missiv: http://freep-impact.blogspot.com/

"And now we are going to be taxed to death. And since our girls are all 0bama fans, they are going to be written out of my half of the trust,,,,no one who supports this kind of nation will get anything of mine..not even the lint in my dryer."


That's a dude who went through a bitter divorce right there.
 
2012-11-11 06:33:20 PM

vpb: Nope


According to what's being said in that article, West has enough reason to take it to court. They didn't do a full recount. Only the ballots that West's people weren't even concerned with and they STILL gained votes? Yeah, there's no such thing as voter fraud. Nothing to see here. Move along.
 
2012-11-11 06:35:02 PM
God I hope some teabaggers get violent, just so that mainstream America sees how truly stupid and farked up these people are.
 
2012-11-11 06:36:26 PM

Lionel Mandrake: The reason why everyone laughs at you is that...wait, never mind. There's not really any disagreement here.


Well, he is correct about there being more (R) governors than (D)s (29 to 20). That must mean... help me out, what does that mean?
 
2012-11-11 06:36:44 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: That's a dude who went through a bitter divorce right there.


That's probably a deadbeat dad with no money to speak of, is it what it is.
 
2012-11-11 06:38:03 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: DubyaHater:

freep-impact.blogspot.com

enjoy


I really liked...

Americans fail to understand, when their own government aids and abets endless wave of foreigners from socialist countries, Muslims, millions of illegals, dividing the once united, it's going to change their history, their elections, everything.

This is not complex.


The GOP's inability to be an inclusive political party that opens it's doors to non-whites, non-Christians and non straight folks that we see reflected in this freeper's xenophobic screed is just further proof that the GOP's current identity politics tactics are dooming them to become an increasingly irrelevant force politically with regional but no viable national aspirations.

It aint rocket surgery.
 
2012-11-11 06:43:12 PM
I hope there's a recount and West wins. His paranoid Poe's Law-esque accusations were comedy gold. The fact he was a member of House only made them funnier.

However, if I was a conservative (which I am not), I'd be hoping this guy would just concede so he could fade into obscurity as soon as possible.
 
2012-11-11 06:47:27 PM

vartian: Don't listen to the posters above me, submitter. They are clearly part of the liberal conspiracy against Allen West. All of his supporters need to double and triple down on this as hard as they can so the rats won't steal another victory from a true patriot. You should be as loud about this as often as you can, and accept no other outcome aside from Allen West being elected.

Godspeed.


Didn't you get the memo, maggots has replaced rats as the derogatory term for liberals in derpbonics.
 
2012-11-11 06:49:08 PM

quatchi: The GOP's inability to be an inclusive political party that opens it's doors to non-whites


...you have seen a photo of Allen West before?
 
2012-11-11 06:52:41 PM

NDP2: I hope there's a recount and West wins. His paranoid Poe's Law-esque accusations were comedy gold. The fact he was a member of House only made them funnier.

However, if I was a conservative (which I am not), I'd be hoping this guy would just concede so he could fade into obscurity as soon as possible.


He's not going anywhere. He'll be a Fox News consultant, spouting nonsense and claiming voter fraud for years to come. He'll probably even start wearing one of Palin's giant wigs.
 
2012-11-11 06:54:47 PM
Ha.
Haha.
Hahaha.

No.
 
2012-11-11 06:55:33 PM

Brubold: vpb: Nope

According to what's being said in that article,.


Let me stop you right there...
 
2012-11-11 06:59:43 PM

abb3w: quatchi: The GOP's inability to be an inclusive political party that opens it's doors to non-whites

...you have seen a photo of Allen West before?


There's always been that exception for entertainers. Sammy Davis, Ella Fitzgerald, Bill Robinson...
 
2012-11-11 07:06:32 PM

Brubold: According to what's being said in that article, West has enough reason to take it to court. They didn't do a full recount.


Because it's still outside the range that triggers one.

A partial recount of early ballots from St. Lucie County further narrowed Democrat Patrick Murphy's thin margin of victory over Republican U.S. Rep. Allen West, prompting the West campaign to call for a recount of all the early-vote ballots.

Murphy's total dropped by 667 votes and West lost 132 votes in the recount of 16,275 ballots from the last three days of early voting in St. Lucie County. West's net gain of 535 votes still leaves him about 0.58 percent behind Murphy in congressional District 18, which also includes Martin County and part of Palm Beach County.

A margin of 0.5 percent or closer is needed to trigger a recount under state law.


Link

This is why I don't take Clownhall seriously. 

Allen West is just a butthurt sore loser and one I'm happy to say good riddance to in the halls of Congress.
 
2012-11-11 07:07:28 PM

Erix: Dimensio: I would sponsor you were you not already a TotalFarker.

Hah thanks, and here I was just blindsided with a Total Farking last week... productivity is shot for the next three.


I was sponsored a few days ago. I still do not understand why, though I am grateful.
 
2012-11-11 07:10:41 PM

blackminded: Kumana Wanalaia: DubyaHater:

freep-impact.blogspot.com

enjoy

I like this one:

recounts and an investigation shoudl have been done in FL,WI,OH,VA,NM,PA because there is no way these results add up and no matter how many times the trolls or cowards on here try and tell us that we have to move on or try to justify this fraud tne it does nto mean we still cannot pressure the GOP and talk radio and true the vote and FOX


His argument that "the results" do not "add up" is accurate. Unskewed polls, anecdotal stories and gut feelings consistently forecast a victory for Governor Romney. How, then, may his loss be explained?
 
2012-11-11 07:20:51 PM

Dimensio: Conservative blogs are also reporting a 108% turnout in Wood County in Ohio. I suspect the claim to be similarly reliable when compared with actual reality.


I heard this earlier today. I think they are just repeating the echo chamber. Going to the county's board of elections site proves this to be false.

/Whoot! My home county is in the news!
//Rossford, Ohio
///Bowling Green Sucks
 
2012-11-11 07:29:48 PM

abb3w: quatchi: The GOP's inability to be an inclusive political party that opens it's doors to non-whites

...you have seen a photo of Allen West before?


Yup and Condi Rice and Mia Love and Colin Powell and Dick Keyes and Herman Cain and Micheal Steele, etc, etc.

I've also seen the sea of old, white faces that filled the GOP's nomination convention and political rallies this year.

I've seen a far more representative sampling of America at the Dem ones.

I've also seen how the various demographics voted here in 2012 as well.

I can also see a church by daylight if that helps.

*blink* 

The writing on the wall. Can you see it?
 
2012-11-11 07:34:20 PM

eraser8: Damnit.

I mistakenly clicked "for" this link...despite the fact that I think smitty is a moronic dick-drip.


You're off my favorites list now. You can't take that back.

So... how much money do I have to give to Drew to get rid of TownHall links entirely? I mean, I know it's gotta be more than what they're paying him. Page clicks alone can't account for it. I hope.

/cue "trying to hide the truth", etc.
//I just really want some factual conservative links, please Or at least some with one foot in reality. I'd be okay with that.
 
2012-11-11 07:35:37 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: missiv: http://freep-impact.blogspot.com/

"And now we are going to be taxed to death. And since our girls are all 0bama fans, they are going to be written out of my half of the trust,,,,no one who supports this kind of nation will get anything of mine..not even the lint in my dryer."

That's a dude who went through a bitter divorce right there.


We don't necessarily marry a political party, or reality.
 
2012-11-11 07:38:45 PM

Fool_Marquis: I'm going to regret asking this:

Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

Or do you doubt the veracity of this detail of the story? Townhall is probably about as reliable of a source as The Register, but it does list several verifiable facts and figures, such as the location (St. Lucie county), the registered voting population (175,554) and the number of ballots cast (247,713). This isn't hard, all we have to do to confirm or deny is contact the state's supervisor of election (Gertrude Walker), or her office. We can't do that monday because, well, federal holiday, but Tuesday we could make such contact...

I don't give a shiat about Al West or whoever is running in a given district. Not my state, so it has no effect on me. I'm much, much more worried about the state of our electoral system... either the ballot boxes were ludicrously stuffed, or else someone farked up the count and double-counted close to half the ballots.

If the latter, then yeah, they need to be fired (but probably won't be since... government job), if the former... how could we prevent such fraud from occurring again?

Anyone out there have a third explanation?


Sure. Although it wouldn't address large numbers necessarily.

Anyone who moved before the election, who legally registered prior to the election but not in time to be counted on the official registration tally, who legally registered in one precinct but legally voted in another (which is possible, but a pain in the ass), any of these would throw off the counts, such that it might appear that more people voted than were registered. It's entirely possible to register and vote the same day, because this is America and anyone legally eligible can vote; it's not like there's some kind of waiting period. If you turn 18 the day of the election, you don't have to wait another year to vote, but you might not appear on the registration count.

Now that said, it's not going to answer your question completely about how there could be 147% returns in a given area; however, it DOES point to tiny breaks in our voting system that haven't been addressed and probably should be.
 
2012-11-11 07:49:31 PM

Relatively Obscure: RyogaM: While Republicans hung onto control of the House of Representatives after Tuesday's election, Democratic candidates across the U.S. received more total votes than Republican candidates did.

While not all ballots have been counted, Democrats hold an edge over Republicans in overall votes. According to ThinkProgress, 53,952,240 votes were cast for Democratic candidates, while Republican candidates received 53,402,643. However, thanks in part to redistricting, Republicans will hold more than half the seats in the House while receiving less than half of overall votes.

Link

Old data?

That seems like a really, really dumb way to look at House elections, anyway.


Why? The whole point of the house is to REPRESENT, and while you have ~51% voting democrat you have (whatever number) less than 50% democratic representatives. Farked-up proportions means you aren't being "representative" anymore. It's the SENATE that is supposed to be like that.

I mean, I get that there's more to those numbers and that some drift and some inevitable gerrymandering even if you aren't trying to do it, but it seems like such a large disparity is a good illustration of how bad gerrymandering is right now.
 
2012-11-11 07:50:00 PM

Gyrfalcon: Now that said, it's not going to answer your question completely about how there could be 147% returns in a given area; however, it DOES point to tiny breaks in our voting system that haven't been addressed and probably should be.


The answer is upthread.
 
2012-11-11 08:11:20 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: God I hope some teabaggers get violent, just so that mainstream America sees how truly stupid and farked up these people are.


You mean the lone wolves that the media refuse to lump together as a bigger narrative because the tea party/conservatives dont want to come off as ignorant and racist? Yeah seems like it'll work.
 
2012-11-11 08:14:40 PM
ClownHall Link.

img341.imageshack.us

NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
 
2012-11-11 08:14:46 PM
Keep fighting it Allen. Soak as much money as you can from your Teatard backers.
If all else fails just make your House office into a bunker and DARE those commie rats to force you out.

You can do it.
 
2012-11-11 08:15:30 PM

Gyrfalcon: Fool_Marquis: I'm going to regret asking this:

Is anyone here: anyone at all, the least bit concerned that there were more total votes than the total number of registered voters?

Or do you doubt the veracity of this detail of the story? Townhall is probably about as reliable of a source as The Register, but it does list several verifiable facts and figures, such as the location (St. Lucie county), the registered voting population (175,554) and the number of ballots cast (247,713). This isn't hard, all we have to do to confirm or deny is contact the state's supervisor of election (Gertrude Walker), or her office. We can't do that monday because, well, federal holiday, but Tuesday we could make such contact...

I don't give a shiat about Al West or whoever is running in a given district. Not my state, so it has no effect on me. I'm much, much more worried about the state of our electoral system... either the ballot boxes were ludicrously stuffed, or else someone farked up the count and double-counted close to half the ballots.

If the latter, then yeah, they need to be fired (but probably won't be since... government job), if the former... how could we prevent such fraud from occurring again?

Anyone out there have a third explanation?

Sure. Although it wouldn't address large numbers necessarily.

Anyone who moved before the election, who legally registered prior to the election but not in time to be counted on the official registration tally, who legally registered in one precinct but legally voted in another (which is possible, but a pain in the ass), any of these would throw off the counts, such that it might appear that more people voted than were registered. It's entirely possible to register and vote the same day, because this is America and anyone legally eligible can vote; it's not like there's some kind of waiting period. If you turn 18 the day of the election, you don't have to wait another year to vote, but you might not appear on the registration c ...


The explanation that the 140.92% value is the number of "ballot cards" cast compared to the total number of registered voters, and that a registered voter who submitted both pages of the two-page ballot would have cast two "cards", is not only simpler, but it is explicitly presented by the St. Lucie County elections website.
 
2012-11-11 08:20:10 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: eraser8: Memo to Republicans and Fark Independents™:

Nonsense like smitty's headline is precisely the kind of thing that caused your side to lose the election:

Memo to Eraser8.
No, the reason the Romney lost the election was that 0bama got more votes (yeah, yeah, electoral college).
The reason why Pelosi failed in getting back the House is that the GOP got more votes.


That's false. Democratic congressional candidates got more votes. The GOP held the House pretty much solely because of the amount of gerrymandering they were able to get away with in 2010.

That said, Democrats managed to gain seats in both the House and the Senate, in addition to retaining the White House. So it would be absurd to suggest that House Republicans gave any kind of mandate. They still lost seats, in spite of the extreme gerrymanders.
 
2012-11-11 08:24:26 PM

swahnhennessy: Vegan Meat Popsicle: That's a dude who went through a bitter divorce right there.

That's probably a deadbeat dad with no money to speak of, is it what it is.


"My half of the trust" was a dead giveaway.
 
2012-11-11 08:32:28 PM

mrlewish: Repubs are just pissed that their voter fraud wasn't enough to overcome the electorate margin.


Well, since most teabagger websites look like they were made in 1997, it might have been a little overly optimistic to think they'd have properly calibrated the software to rig the voting machines.
 
2012-11-11 08:40:53 PM
Who cares? Go ahead and do a sanctioned recount so we can show you tards that yes, in fact you've lost...
 
2012-11-11 09:06:58 PM

Satanic_Hamster: [img3.owned.com image 500x687]


I don't know why that's here but lulz
 
2012-11-11 09:39:31 PM
As I said elsewhere, my facebook friend who's screaming the loudest about voter fraud is the one who got busted for voter fraud himself in 2000. If it didn't feel far too much like spiking the football, I'd say something to him about how yeah, he should know about voter fraud.
 
2012-11-11 09:58:49 PM
Being a Wisconsinite I can tell you the reason for voter IDs is because there are 2 votes for every democrat. The reality, contrary to what stand up comics on the daily show dictate to loyal lemmings, is fraud is rampant and blue.
 
2012-11-11 10:03:44 PM

Proteios1: Being a Wisconsinite I can tell you the reason for voter IDs is because there are 2 votes for every democrat. The reality, contrary to what stand up comics on the daily show dictate to loyal lemmings, is fraud is rampant and blue.


Well, you're from Wisconsin, so I'm convinced.
 
2012-11-11 10:35:40 PM

Proteios1: Being a Wisconsinite I can tell you the reason for voter IDs is because there are 2 votes for every democrat. The reality, contrary to what stand up comics on the daily show dictate to loyal lemmings, is fraud is rampant and blue.


Well I'm from Wisonconsin, and I can tell you that voter fraud is extremely rare and not a real problem. What happens when two people from Wisconsin disagree? This one is tough given we both have extremely solid evidence, being from Wisconsin and all.
 
2012-11-11 10:36:13 PM

Proteios1: Being a Wisconsinite I can tell you the reason for voter IDs is because there are 2 votes for every democrat. The reality, contrary to what stand up comics on the daily show dictate to loyal lemmings, is fraud is rampant and blue.


. o O (Hrm. Seems like a troll post... but has a sense of earnestness. I... I think he's serious! )
 
2012-11-11 10:49:24 PM

WinoRhino: Proteios1: Being a Wisconsinite I can tell you the reason for voter IDs is because there are 2 votes for every democrat. The reality, contrary to what stand up comics on the daily show dictate to loyal lemmings, is fraud is rampant and blue.

. o O (Hrm. Seems like a troll post... but has a sense of earnestness. I... I think he's serious! )


He may be from the alternate reality Wisconsin. The one where Scott Walker has created jobs instead of losing them and the Packers won the Superbowl last year. Things are different there.
 
2012-11-11 11:09:35 PM

Proteios1: Being a Wisconsinite I can tell you the reason for voter IDs is because there are 2 votes for every democrat. The reality, contrary to what stand up comics on the daily show dictate to loyal lemmings, is fraud is rampant and blue.


Not sure if trolling.... or if had break from reality......
 
2012-11-11 11:25:27 PM

abb3w: Hm. 182% turnout does sound a little hinky at first glance.

However.... "TURNOUT PERCENTAGES WILL SHOW OVER 100% DUE TO A TWO PAGE BALLOT. NOT ALL VOTERS VOTED THE SECOND CARD CONTAINING THE AMENDMENTS."


Can't trust her. Color and all.
 
2012-11-12 12:11:01 AM

Proteios1: Being a Wisconsinite I can tell you the reason for voter IDs is because there are 2 votes for every democrat. The reality, contrary to what stand up comics on the daily show dictate to loyal lemmings, is fraud is rampant and blue.


You have accidentally neglected to reference actual statistical data that supports your assertion. I am certain, however, that you will remedy this error in a subsequent posting.
 
2012-11-12 12:20:06 AM

Dimensio: Proteios1: Being a Wisconsinite I can tell you the reason for voter IDs is because there are 2 votes for every democrat. The reality, contrary to what stand up comics on the daily show dictate to loyal lemmings, is fraud is rampant and blue.

You have accidentally neglected to reference actual statistical data that supports your assertion. I am certain, however, that you will remedy this error in a subsequent posting.


Dude. He's from Wisconsin. I think that means he knows what he's talking about.

Wisconsin.
 
2012-11-12 12:38:47 AM

Dimensio: blackminded: Kumana Wanalaia: DubyaHater:

freep-impact.blogspot.com

enjoy

I like this one:

recounts and an investigation shoudl have been done in FL,WI,OH,VA,NM,PA because there is no way these results add up and no matter how many times the trolls or cowards on here try and tell us that we have to move on or try to justify this fraud tne it does nto mean we still cannot pressure the GOP and talk radio and true the vote and FOX

His argument that "the results" do not "add up" is accurate. Unskewed polls, anecdotal stories and gut feelings consistently forecast a victory for Governor Romney. How, then, may his loss be explained?


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-11-12 01:19:51 AM
I weep for the soul who any man who actually wants that disgraced war criminal in congress.
 
2012-11-12 05:30:45 AM

WinoRhino: Proteios1: Being a Wisconsinite I can tell you the reason for voter IDs is because there are 2 votes for every democrat. The reality, contrary to what stand up comics on the daily show dictate to loyal lemmings, is fraud is rampant and blue.

. o O (Hrm. Seems like a troll post... but has a sense of earnestness. I... I think he's serious! )


And from Wisconsin.
 
2012-11-12 07:58:57 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: missiv: http://freep-impact.blogspot.com/

"And now we are going to be taxed to death. And since our girls are all 0bama fans, they are going to be written out of my half of the trust,,,,no one who supports this kind of nation will get anything of mine..not even the lint in my dryer."

That's a dude who went through a bitter divorce right there.


So bad he is forced to hoard dryer lint.
 
2012-11-12 08:05:16 AM
I have a feeling that we are going to be hearing about this 141% thing for a long time. It has already entered The Narrative, truth be damned.
 
2012-11-12 08:30:36 AM

Jackson Herring: I have a feeling that we are going to be hearing about this 141% thing for a long time. It has already entered The Narrative, truth be damned.


Apparently intentionally lying to yourself is a hard habit to break. Maybe they should try the patch.

www.freakingnews.com
 
2012-11-12 11:07:57 PM

quatchi: The writing on the wall. Can you see it?


Oh, sure. I just thought it was an interesting phrasing, considering the thread.
 
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