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(Examiner)   Texas wants to secede from the Union? Boring.... Fifteen states file petitions to secede? Now we're talking   (examiner.com) divider line 155
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2012-11-11 01:03:10 PM
12 votes:
Some random idiot sends off a letter. Wake me up when it's the governor and senators making the request.
2012-11-11 02:28:13 PM
10 votes:
More like cranky hillbillies in 15 states want to waste the taxpayer's time & money because Rmoney's defeat gave them epic amounts of butthurt, and drama-queens gotta drama-queen.
2012-11-11 02:37:30 PM
8 votes:
I like that the petition specifically mentions "blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc."
The only two TX House Reps who voted 'NO' on the NDAA are Ruben Hinojoso and Michael Burgess. The TSA was created by Texan George W. Bush.
By the way, Ron Paul was a vocal opponent of the NDAA, but couldn't be bothered to come in to vote against it.
2012-11-11 05:28:01 PM
7 votes:
I know reposting things from personal blogs is pretty lame but whatever, it's on topic and I'm too lazy to reword the same point into a new post:

The biggest problem with a certain subset of the right-wing backlash to the re-election of President Obama is the utter contempt it shows for the rule of law, the very thing they claim is being destroyed in a country they clearly do not understand or truly appreciate.

The rule of law is, by and large, something that Americans have historically cared about a great deal. Sometimes, this was to the country's detriment, as I'll demonstrate in a minute. A big issue with the republic in the first place was the very real doubt that people would respect the authority of law, instead of the obligations of personal allegiance or the authority of military power. It was all fairly astonishing to the world, if not the country itself, that it actually worked, and Americans justly took pride in it.

Even when the course of the nation didn't agree with their principles.

That attitude led to, for example, the consensus in the early-mid 19th century that there was no legal method for depriving slave owners of their property in slaves without slave owners' and/or their state's consent. This belief was even held by radical abolitionists, save extremely rare exceptions like John Brown. It also led to the near-universal public outcry in the North as the Confederate States seceded, violating the principle that held the rule of law - and thus, the election of Abraham Lincoln - sacred. When the South violated that trust, it cracked open the door to Emancipation, and a vengeful North kicked it in without remorse. It was, at the time, as much about teaching the South a lesson in democracy as it was about human rights.

Now, in a far less divisive climate with much lower stakes - as bad as things can seem, millions of people are not born into a lifetime of brutal bondage in this country anymore, for one thing - some conservatives are reacting to the perfectly legal re-election of a sitting President whose views they do not share by claiming that the results are not legitimate, advocating secession and/or rebellion, making all sorts of threats about "going Galt," and screaming to anyone within earshot about how the "commie socialist fascist Muslim Kenyan abortionist dictator" isn't even in charge of a republic anymore because they didn't get their way.

These people have some concept of what the U.S. Constitution is that can best be described as, "whatever they imagine it is, as long as it agrees with my political proto-philosophy." The problem is what the Constitution is actually for: Establishing the functional rules and ultimate authority of the law.

It probably sounds quaint to argue that the United States is a country ruled by law, but it's something these people have either forgotten or never understood. This attitude is contemptuous of both the country they claim to love - but evidently never truly got to know - and the rest of the electorate that exercised their Constitutional privilege to vote their conscience.

In short, petulant whining followed by extra-legal threats in the wake of an election is not patriotic, and historically speaking is about the most un-American thing you can do.
2012-11-11 01:06:17 PM
6 votes:

sithon: sedition ? treason ? should people be arrested now.


And all because the Black Guy won.
2012-11-11 04:51:59 PM
5 votes:
I love the idiot(s) in the comments who said the Civil War wasn't about slavery.

If there is a bigger myth hoisted upon the American people about its own history, I can't think of one.

That Lost Cause movement that started before the Confederate guns even went silent sure was effective, it made it so that centuries later, nobody even bothers to read contemporary things like newspaper articles, political statements, Confederate constitutions, or even secession documents.

(Yes "state's rights." The state's right was slavery.)
2012-11-11 04:37:31 PM
5 votes:

js34603: Before the Well Byes and the air of superiority becomes too overwhelming in here, maybe take a look at the article and realize its random crackpots in these states trying to petition for this on the same Obama site that has featured other such winning petitions as releasing the truth about UFOs and the disclosure of the White House beer recipe.

In other words, crazies gonna crazy. Stop cheering for states to leave the country, it makes you look just as bad as them.


Laughing at idiots that cry about secession cause Obama won is not remotely the same as crying about secession because Obama won.

I swear, this week has produced the most idiotic "bot sides are bad" comments in the history of ever.
2012-11-11 04:33:54 PM
5 votes:
FTA: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York

So, those five states went to Obama, one of them by 26.8 points. Also, subby, the top comment from the article about sums it up: The headline should read, "An Insignificant Number of Fringe Retards in 15 States File Meaningless Petitions". That would be accurate.....

Also, KY and CO? What the fark are you retards thinking (I know it's not the whole state, just a bunch of idiots)? You're landlocked, and completely surrounded by a country you are talking about leaving, or even fighting a war against. You do realize that the rest of the country could just boycott all trade with you, not allow anyone else to use our roads or airspace to trade with you, not allow you to use our roads or airspace, patrol the shiat out of your border and not recognize you as a legitimate country (meaning your citizens could never leave the state), and basically lock you into a state of isolation.... right? You do get that?
2012-11-11 04:26:21 PM
5 votes:
No one's done this yet?

theelephantgun.files.wordpress.com

DNRTFA
2012-11-11 04:07:01 PM
5 votes:
I think what this says is those of us who have been waiting for a calm, rational, centrist/right Republican party to come back and join the table have been sorely mistaken. The Tea Party / Racist / Separatist Right is here to stay, and they won't quit til they get their way, which is their own country run by American Taliban.

And I'd be fine with giving it to them, but the problem is then they would declare war on us probably the next minute.

And then my quality of life drops because I have to support rounding them up and shooting them like the swine they are. And that sucks, there's so much better uses for that money.
2012-11-11 02:04:45 PM
5 votes:

PreMortem: So its up to the Executive branch to grant secession now?
News to me.


Yeah. The most the President can do is recommend the necessary constitutional Amendment to congress... but, that recommendation is indeed within his power.

If they agree to a short period (say, 12 years) for people who do/don't want to leave the US to sort themselves out across the new borders, to assume a per-capita share of the US national debt (in exchange for a per-capita share of the Social Security Trust), leaving the Mississippi river open to trade, I think the departure of the South could be peacefully negotiated.

Taking em back? More expensive. 
2012-11-11 01:03:27 PM
5 votes:
Any old asshole can file a petition.

www.joeydevilla.com
2012-11-11 04:58:25 PM
4 votes:
Weaver95 2012-11-11 04:37:17 PM

I can't speak for anyone else here but...I gotta be honest. some days I find it very difficult to tell the tea party from the UFO nutballs and 'sovereign state' wackos.

Weav, there's no difference.

The teabaggers have finally left the building of Perfectly Legitimate Complaint and screwed their wits into the same psychological power socket the UFO nuts did years ago. Different obsession-targets, that's all.

They want to separate themselves from the thundering herd of Wonderbread out there BECAUSE SPECIAL, and by gosh if they didn't pick an especially petulant and annoying way to attention-whore.

That's my half-ass conclusion and I guess I'll stick to it until I get better info.
2012-11-11 04:43:32 PM
4 votes:

eddiesocket: randomjsa: Generation_D: I think what this says is those of us who have been waiting for a calm, rational, centrist/right Republican party to come back and join the table have been sorely mistake

They'll come back when the moderate Democrats do.

There are only moderate Democrats these days.


That's not true. There are moderate Democrats, centrist Democrats, conservative Democrats and Democrats That Are Actually Republicans. They have a big tent!
2012-11-11 04:36:00 PM
4 votes:

randomjsa: Generation_D: I think what this says is those of us who have been waiting for a calm, rational, centrist/right Republican party to come back and join the table have been sorely mistake

They'll come back when the moderate Democrats do.


when the GOP kicked out all their moderates, where do you think a lot of them ended up? sure, some went to the libertarians...but even more went Democrat.
2012-11-11 04:32:05 PM
4 votes:
Somehow a petition to secede on the White House website doesn't seem official but signing one does get your Name on a Government Computer file.
2012-11-11 04:23:16 PM
4 votes:
Can't wait for my taxes to drop from the southern states no longer mooching off the other states!
2012-11-11 04:03:13 PM
4 votes:
For a such a bunch of hard-nosed unyielding SOBs, these right-wingers are surprisingly whiny.
2012-11-11 03:36:50 PM
4 votes:
idiots.
2012-11-11 03:26:18 PM
4 votes:
I like how they're using a website created by the Obama Administration to show how they want to leave it.
2012-11-11 02:33:55 PM
4 votes:
The states aren't filing, dumbfark.
2012-11-11 05:09:28 PM
3 votes:
www.strongtowns.org

DO IT WE COULD USE THE MONEY YOU farkING FREELOADERS
2012-11-11 05:03:02 PM
3 votes:
Those petitions are a great place to look for the names of Traitors.
2012-11-11 04:45:39 PM
3 votes:

Curse of the Goth Kids: What kind of pansy asks to leave? Hoist your flag and be off with you if you've got the balls for it, otherwise shut your pie hole.


I might add: the founders of this country did not send King George a Request For Independence. On the other hand, neither were they blubbering, self-entitled hoveround diabetics.
2012-11-11 04:42:11 PM
3 votes:

randomjsa: Generation_D: I think what this says is those of us who have been waiting for a calm, rational, centrist/right Republican party to come back and join the table have been sorely mistake

They'll come back when the moderate Democrats do.


There are only moderate Democrats these days.
2012-11-11 04:33:54 PM
3 votes:

randomjsa: Generation_D: I think what this says is those of us who have been waiting for a calm, rational, centrist/right Republican party to come back and join the table have been sorely mistake

They'll come back when the moderate Democrats do.


So you're saying that you believe the Democrats should shift to the left?
2012-11-11 04:32:36 PM
3 votes:
Good luck with that.

Call me when this gets past the "Crank with a keyboard firing off letters" stage. You know, when legislators and Governors are making these sorts of calls. Folks certainly have the right to mutter and natter on, but if they're going to rely on militias to get 'er done, they might want to reconsider.

FTFA:

As of 12:46 am, Sunday, signatures obtained by Louisiana, 7,358; Texas, 3,771; Florida, 636; Georgia, 475; Alabama, 834; North Carolina, 792; Kentucky, 467; Mississippi, 475; Indiana, 449; North Dakota, 162; Montana, 440; Colorado, 324; Oregon, 328; New Jersey, 301 and New York, 169. Many more States are expected to follow.

Interesting to note that Arizona and Nevada aren't on that list. Then again, they sort of rely on Hoover Dam to make their communities actually viable...
2012-11-11 04:31:32 PM
3 votes:
It isn't even about north and south. This is just urban vs. rural now. That's the reason states like Oregon, New Jersey and New York are in that list. Because stupid hicks in rural areas are similar on either side of the Mason-Dixon line.
2012-11-11 04:29:58 PM
3 votes:
Hey morans,

"Love it or leave it" refers to you, personally, not the actual land of the United States. If you don't want to be a part of this country, you're free to go to any country that will take you, but the landmass that is your state stays.
2012-11-11 04:28:50 PM
3 votes:
Fine. Just pay your part of the debt first.
2012-11-11 02:32:07 PM
3 votes:
Poor things. So brainwashed. Bless their hearts.
2012-11-11 01:03:36 PM
3 votes:
sedition ? treason ? should people be arrested now.
2012-11-12 02:09:18 AM
2 votes:
More secession talk after 150 years. And for basically the same reasons, too.
2012-11-12 12:40:37 AM
2 votes:

js34603: Stop cheering for states to leave the country, it makes you look just as bad as them.


The "movement" in this story is just a few disgruntled crazies angry that a America, to quote a GOP bumper sticker, Re-Nigged in 2012. But what if this were a serious, credible movement to secede? I wouldn't cheer for states to leave the country, but if the citizens of said state(s) decide they no longer want to be part of the UNITED States of America, that's their choice and I'm not going to waste my time begging them to stay. Our nation would be better off with fewer states who want to move forward and improve our lives rather than focusing on getting the black guy out of the White House. That's not to say we'll always agree - we won't. But disagreeing with someone who has America's best interest at heart is light years away from disagreeing with today's GOP that simply wants to stick it to Obama and the Libs.

So to recap: cheering? No. But if you want to leave, the door is right there. And if that makes me look "just as bad" in your eyes, I can live with that very easily.
2012-11-11 11:17:15 PM
2 votes:
How could secession work for these states financially? Some of them, for example Mississippi, take in almost 2 dollars for every dollar in Federal taxes. Some, like Texas, are about even. So, would a state like Texas institute an income tax equal to the old Federal tax to replace that money? Or would they just cut all social programs and defense spending to zero for some real savings? Even if they are hoping that all those "freeloaders" on welfare or unemployment leave, that is only 11% of the total federal budget, there isn't that much savings there. Maybe they could force other "undesirables" such as those retired on social security or those needing medical care to leave or die as well, and have some savings that way, but how much could it be? They would have to ditch or kill half of their population, all retired people and have no defense budget or medical care to reduce the tax to zero. They would be faced with raising state taxes to replace at least a bare minimum of the old Federal services. Not to mention that they are going to have one severe brain drain or professionals that don't want to live in a third world country any more.
2012-11-11 07:56:28 PM
2 votes:

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: vpb: OtherLittleGuy: Bad time, guys. All those troops from Iraq and Afghanistan are coming home. Even in 15 states, putting down a Second Rebellion should be no trouble.

I think they believe that 99% of the military is good'ol boys who would be on their side.

A) Cite your figure, please.
B) They'd all choose to betray their loyalty to 'Murika?


Be an interesting concept. I'm sure there'd be a few dorks and F.E.A.R. wannabes who would mutiny and side with their states, and a larger number who wouldn't want to fire on US citizens who would opt out as conscientious objectors. The career soldiers probably not so much.

However, anyone wanting to force the issue should recall what happened in Los Angeles during the riots, when the Marines were deployed to keep order. They kept order, all right; and when some fool decided the Marines would never fire on US citizens and decided to crash a roadblock, they shot him dead.
2012-11-11 07:48:57 PM
2 votes:
FartBong0 should just have DEVGRU drop in and arrest and detain a handful of folks advocating secession. Then just let them go after video of them pissing themselves and crying like little girls appears on the evening news. Hold a press conf with pics of crying, wet crotched secession advocates over his shoulder and apologize, saying that he thought it as a actual threat to the union, but it turned out that they were just talking out of their asses.
2012-11-11 06:39:21 PM
2 votes:

born_yesterday: js34603: Before the Well Byes and the air of superiority becomes too overwhelming in here, maybe take a look at the article and realize its random crackpots in these states trying to petition for this on the same Obama site that has featured other such winning petitions as releasing the truth about UFOs and the disclosure of the White House beer recipe.

In other words, crazies gonna crazy. Stop cheering for states to leave the country, it makes you look just as bad as them.

You know what nation was founded by "just a few crackpots", as you put it?

That's right. Australia.


After starting as a British prison It was actually formed by mass immigration just like the USA. Luckily for Australia relatively few of the immigrants were overly religious.
2012-11-11 06:37:26 PM
2 votes:
OneBrightMonkey 2012-11-11 06:12:46 PM

Limbaugh was recently musing about a fabulous world in which America was physically split 50/50 between the major political parties.

The theory being the "moocher class" ensconced in the "blue" states would have no more struggling atlas' to leech off of - prompting imminent collapse.

Wouldn't the millions of elderly, white, Medicare and social security recipients that consistently vote republican be on the debit side of the ledger in red states in that case?


YUP.

I keep dammit TELLING you guys, these 'Publicans WANT to quite literally cut off and kill large portions of their voter base.

Not metaphorically, either.
2012-11-11 06:15:43 PM
2 votes:

shastacola: I love the way the derp brigade in the comments section think the U.S. military is "their" army.


"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)


We wouldn't want our servicemen and servicewomen to break an oath before God, would we?
2012-11-11 06:15:08 PM
2 votes:

OneBrightMonkey: Limbaugh was recently musing about a fabulous world in which America was physically split 50/50 between the major political parties.

The theory being the "moocher class" ensconced in the "blue" states would have no more struggling atlas' to leech off of - prompting imminent collapse.

Wouldn't the millions of elderly, white, Medicare and social security recipients that consistently vote republican be on the debit side of the ledger in red states in that case?


The red states would be apocalyptic wastelands of decrepit old people and redneck high school dropouts. But, really, it's Rush, what exactly do you expect?
2012-11-11 05:47:27 PM
2 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: sithon: sedition ? treason ? should people be arrested now.

And all because the Black Guy won.


This. Sadly this.
2012-11-11 05:46:03 PM
2 votes:
i280.photobucket.com
2012-11-11 05:36:12 PM
2 votes:
I love my state (Texas), and I think Houston is incredibly underrated. Massive amount of cultural diversity, learning, arts, good people, great food.

The direction my state has been going, I am not against moving. I have lived here my entire life, and consider myself Texan, through and through. That said, I think I need to be in a state that wants to go in a direction I believe in, where education is not politicized, where the working poor are not marginalized, where people care about the glory of their natural world, and want to preserve it.

I wish for better for my state. It causes me anguish.
2012-11-11 05:16:54 PM
2 votes:
lh6.googleusercontent.com
2012-11-11 05:14:05 PM
2 votes:

skipjack: hubiestubert:

You mean the folks who quoted said article? Or did you have a point in there somewhere that just missed actually being put in the form of full sentence that actually made sense?

I made the point I intended to.


That you lacked anything constructive to contribute? You do a marvelous job of that already. Keep it up. You are a master of irrelevancy...
2012-11-11 05:11:37 PM
2 votes:

randomjsa: They'll come back when the moderate Democrats do.


Good point. The Democrats have occupied the right wing part position and Republicans aren't going to become more liberal so they were forced into the fascist sphere.
I too wish the Democrats would move to the left randomsja, thank you for your intelligent observation.
2012-11-11 05:04:19 PM
2 votes:
someone should make a petition to ask the white house to remove the secession petitions.

2.bp.blogspot.com
2012-11-11 04:51:10 PM
2 votes:

bulldg4life: Every last person connected to that is a goddamn idiot that should be punched in the face for being a pissy whiny baby for losing an election to the black liberal


pauloflaherty.com
2012-11-11 04:48:43 PM
2 votes:

Curse of the Goth Kids: Curse of the Goth Kids: What kind of pansy asks to leave? Hoist your flag and be off with you if you've got the balls for it, otherwise shut your pie hole.

I might add: the founders of this country did not send King George a Request For Independence. On the other hand, neither were they blubbering, self-entitled hoveround diabetics.


You have to wonder how these new nation states will handle their own medical care. And banking. And bringing in food, with their new currency. Revenue generation should be interesting, because I guess they won't have any taxes in their new Promised Land...
2012-11-11 04:42:52 PM
2 votes:

bulldg4life: js34603: Before the Well Byes and the air of superiority becomes too overwhelming in here, maybe take a look at the article and realize its random crackpots in these states trying to petition for this on the same Obama site that has featured other such winning petitions as releasing the truth about UFOs and the disclosure of the White House beer recipe.

In other words, crazies gonna crazy. Stop cheering for states to leave the country, it makes you look just as bad as them.

Laughing at idiots that cry about secession cause Obama won is not remotely the same as crying about secession because Obama won.

I swear, this week has produced the most idiotic "bot sides are bad" comments in the history of ever.


Yeah cheering for states to leave the country? That's not both sides are bad, that's both sides are stupid. If you think your state should leave the union, you're an idiot. If you actually think it would be a good thing for states to leave the union, you're an idiot, too.
2012-11-11 04:40:36 PM
2 votes:
www.globalnerdy.com 

I hope they keep it up, though. I want the right to keep working themselves into a froth and go even further into Wackyland.
2012-11-11 04:38:26 PM
2 votes:
Oh on, an online petition. I hope that they don't create a FB group also.
2012-11-11 04:37:17 PM
2 votes:

js34603: Before the Well Byes and the air of superiority becomes too overwhelming in here, maybe take a look at the article and realize its random crackpots in these states trying to petition for this on the same Obama site that has featured other such winning petitions as releasing the truth about UFOs and the disclosure of the White House beer recipe.

In other words, crazies gonna crazy. Stop cheering for states to leave the country, it makes you look just as bad as them.


I can't speak for anyone else here but...I gotta be honest. some days I find it very difficult to tell the tea party from the UFO nutballs and 'sovereign state' wackos.
2012-11-11 04:35:23 PM
2 votes:
Every last person connected to that is a goddamn idiot that should be punched in the face for being a pissy whiny baby for losing an election to the black liberal.

What a bunch of dumbass chucklef*cks.
2012-11-11 04:33:23 PM
2 votes:
I'm going to have to point out that reporting on this level of derpitude in such a manner as to indicate that the "states" themselves are filing is proooooooobably contributing to the overall level of stupid in terms of understanding how government functions.
2012-11-11 04:30:52 PM
2 votes:

The All-Powerful Atheismo: YouAreItNoTagBacks: No one's done this yet?

[theelephantgun.files.wordpress.com image 299x156]

DNRTFA

It includes Oregon a few freaking dumbasses from Oregon who managed to find the White House petition website. While my fellow Californians might cut my dick off for this... I LOVE Oregon.

Not Oregon drivers though. You farking suck.


FTFY

Caught the Cal game yesterday...brutal.
2012-11-11 04:30:10 PM
2 votes:
i20.photobucket.com

It's treason, then...
2012-11-11 04:25:24 PM
2 votes:

Arthur Jumbles: Some random idiot sends off a letter. Wake me up when it's the governor and senators making the request.


And since when do these random idiots amount to The State wanting to secede?
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-11-11 03:02:22 PM
2 votes:

OtherLittleGuy: Bad time, guys. All those troops from Iraq and Afghanistan are coming home. Even in 15 states, putting down a Second Rebellion should be no trouble.


I think they believe that 99% of the military is good'ol boys who would be on their side.
2012-11-11 02:50:14 PM
2 votes:
Bad time, guys. All those troops from Iraq and Afghanistan are coming home. Even in 15 states, putting down a Second Rebellion should be no trouble.
2012-11-11 01:30:22 PM
2 votes:
So its up to the Executive branch to grant secession now?

News to me.
2012-11-12 08:12:21 AM
1 votes:
CPennypacker:

www.strongtowns.org


DO IT WE COULD USE THE MONEY YOU farkING FREELOADERS


i73.photobucket.com
2012-11-12 08:08:03 AM
1 votes:
Oh how cute. The states that receive THE MOST in handouts from the federal government think they can do better on their own.

/Morans
//Go for it, I dare ya.
2012-11-12 01:30:07 AM
1 votes:

NFA: nonsense


I love how you read a story about people in fifteen states filing nonsense petitions to secede because Barack Obama won the election and think "wow, Democrats sure are whiny"
2012-11-12 01:26:08 AM
1 votes:

Mugato: machodonkeywrestler: I'd like to point out that Obama got 46% of the popular vote from GA.

That's what sucks about the electoral college. Not every part of Georgia are shiat kicking hicks and Florida for example is like three different countries.


I have the misfortune of living in a place sometimes referred to as "Bonus Georgia". Jacksonville, Florida. Where no matter how dumb someone is on the internet, they're still smarter than the drivers around me.
2012-11-12 01:17:54 AM
1 votes:
Will they begin by canceling the Pledge of Allegence?
. . ... , I N D I V I S I B L E, with Liberty and Justice for all (1).

(1) all does not include gays, atheists, arabs, muslums, and worst of all, liberals.
2012-11-12 01:09:39 AM
1 votes:
The secession of the first dozen would not only increase the economic well being of the US, but would increase the average IQ by 20 points at least, which would require those test to be recalibrated. That would be a good thing. Getting 200 signatures on a petition in New York would be possible regardless of the question, so their count has no meaning.

The main problem with all those states seceding is that it would create a whole bunch of third world countries who would probably even be greater leaches on the US then they are now.
2012-11-12 12:25:10 AM
1 votes:

mediablitz: Lenny_da_Hog: acanuck: wow - all 328 Republicans in Oregon signed the petition.

The butt...it hurts

Outside of Portland or college towns = Idaho, West. I live in the red part of Oregon, and I'm less than an hour out of PDX.

There are plenty of dirt-farmin' rednecks in these here parts, right down to confederate flags and wife-beaters.

Just go a little south of Eugene. Redneck meth-head heaven...


You people aren't kidding. I live in PDX and I talk with seemingly absolutely reasonable people, and for some reason I start talking politics with them, and I immediately think, "Whut, where did that come from?"

I had one woman I know compare Obama to Hitler because she considers them both charismatic.
2012-11-12 12:19:04 AM
1 votes:

Lenny_da_Hog: acanuck: wow - all 328 Republicans in Oregon signed the petition.

The butt...it hurts

Outside of Portland or college towns = Idaho, West. I live in the red part of Oregon, and I'm less than an hour out of PDX.

There are plenty of dirt-farmin' rednecks in these here parts, right down to confederate flags and wife-beaters.


Just go a little south of Eugene. Redneck meth-head heaven...
2012-11-12 12:14:06 AM
1 votes:

acanuck: wow - all 328 Republicans in Oregon signed the petition.

The butt...it hurts


Outside of Portland or college towns = Idaho, West. I live in the red part of Oregon, and I'm less than an hour out of PDX.

There are plenty of dirt-farmin' rednecks in these here parts, right down to confederate flags and wife-beaters.
2012-11-11 11:59:22 PM
1 votes:

propasaurus: acanuck: wow - all 328 Republicans in Oregon signed the petition.

The butt...it hurts

Now we know how Gary is passing the time.


You're assuming he's still alive and not dead of some self-inflicted gunshot wound in the bottom of his silo.

I heard some cartridge casings hitting the floor.
2012-11-11 11:32:53 PM
1 votes:

deeyablo: I love my state (Texas), and I think Houston is incredibly underrated. Massive amount of cultural diversity, learning, arts, good people, great food.

The direction my state has been going, I am not against moving. I have lived here my entire life, and consider myself Texan, through and through. That said, I think I need to be in a state that wants to go in a direction I believe in, where education is not politicized, where the working poor are not marginalized, where people care about the glory of their natural world, and want to preserve it.

I wish for better for my state. It causes me anguish.


I love Texas too. The derp is heavy, wade through it. Our US of A needs our brass balls. Stay the course.
2012-11-11 11:26:29 PM
1 votes:
And.... Now Facebook is flooded with "15 STATES WANT TO SECEDE!!!" idiocy.

This is why we can't have nice things.
2012-11-11 11:06:34 PM
1 votes:
Not to point out anything rational, but every national company would leave these states. Wal-Mart would leave - let Texas negotiate its own trade agreements with China. Dell would leave - US companies would not retain a foreign-owned service company. NASA would leave. Oil from Texas-based companies would be heavily tarriffed on import into the United States - let's tax them 50%! Why not?

These morons had a chance to change the course of history - it's called 'voting'. I wonder how many people signing these petitions didn't actually vote.
2012-11-11 10:32:40 PM
1 votes:
Every time I hear these whiny dumbfarks scream succession, I keep on hoping the President would let them all migrate to one state, get everyone who doesn't want to secede out of said, state, then lock off its borders and declare it a separate country.

They'd never stop screaming for help once the US government stopped giving them money to live long enough to write up their own constitution and set up their own government.
2012-11-11 10:14:35 PM
1 votes:
And they say Dems were butthurt in 2000. It's nearly been a week and GOPers are still pissing themselves.
2012-11-11 09:09:31 PM
1 votes:

DemonEater: HST's Dead Carcass: Once they all leave, they'll have to pick a new name, Th USA is taken.

That part's EASY.

The Confederate States of America. You know they'll do it.


The sad thing? They have sort of forgotten why we went from the Articles of Confederation to our republic. This sad lot is angry still because we didn't let them try and fail to make a go of it. Then again with Mexico and Britain slavering for expansion of their own territories, they might be more like the Canuckistanis by now...
2012-11-11 08:52:14 PM
1 votes:

HST's Dead Carcass: Once they all leave, they'll have to pick a new name, Th USA is taken.


That part's EASY.

The Confederate States of America. You know they'll do it.
2012-11-11 08:48:36 PM
1 votes:

HST's Dead Carcass: It should also be noted: Everyone signing this is committing treason against The United States Of America. Enjoy your prison time, secessionists.


What if you don't live in Louisiana, Mississippi, Arizona, or Texas but just want the moronic bigots gone? Is "for the lulz" a valid defense?
2012-11-11 08:39:46 PM
1 votes:
Ok, fine, pay back the Federal Government ALL the money your state owes up to this point. THEN, you'll need to get the agreement of ALL residents. Right now, there are high schools in New York city with more students than this stupid petition has signatures. Once they all leave, they'll have to pick a new name, Th USA is taken.

It should also be noted: Everyone signing this is committing treason against The United States Of America. Enjoy your prison time, secessionists.
2012-11-11 08:36:46 PM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon:

However, anyone wanting to force the issue should recall what happened in Los Angeles during the riots, when the Marines were deployed to keep order. They kept order, all right; and when some fool decided the Marines would never fire on US citizens and decided to crash a roadblock, they shot him dead.


National Guardsman, actually.
2012-11-11 08:19:24 PM
1 votes:

kg2095: After starting as a British prison It was actually formed by mass immigration just like the USA. Luckily for Australia relatively few of the immigrants were overly religious.


What does it say that, when faced with the choice of immigrating to a country filled with religious nuts or a prison colony, so many felt that the prison was a wiser choice?
2012-11-11 08:08:54 PM
1 votes:
Not everyone voting for secession is racist. I signed the petition to get rid of Mississippi and Florida. I think it's a sign of patriotism.
2012-11-11 08:07:52 PM
1 votes:

bootman: FartBong0 should just have DEVGRU drop in and arrest and detain a handful of folks advocating secession. Then just let them go after video of them pissing themselves and crying like little girls appears on the evening news. Hold a press conf with pics of crying, wet crotched secession advocates over his shoulder and apologize, saying that he thought it as a actual threat to the union, but it turned out that they were just talking out of their asses.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
2012-11-11 08:02:16 PM
1 votes:
"Liberal Schadenfreude is Out of Control: Why gloating after the election is nastier than ever"

THIS is why!
2012-11-11 07:51:50 PM
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: These citizen generated petitions were filed just days after the 2012 Presidential election.

Has anyone else noticed that almost every single one of these "x state wants to succeed" is a couple random jackoffs that have no power or elected office in the state, usually on the political equivalent of an anonymized internet message board? aka trolls?

What is it with the big media conglomerates and feeding the trolls?

//The only time it was actual news was when Rick Perry settled it, and he backpedaled so hard that a video of the event fell through time and was used in Superman II.


What "big media conglomerate"? The Examiner isn't even a real newspaper, it's a website with articles written by largely unpaid and untrained contributors who do their own editing.
This particular story and headline was written by a psychologist from Texas. I bet she's also a signatory to the petition.
2012-11-11 07:18:07 PM
1 votes:

LincolnLogolas: I was watching this unfold on WND. Apparently, the crazies actually believe this will actually accomplish something more than providing some comedy.

"Oh oh, let's sign this non-binding e-petition so that we can support a cause without actually doing or risking anything!"

Well, I was watching until they banninated me from posting. Too lazy to create another account to continue bugging them.


What's this WND site all about?

* logs onto site*

......oh_lawd.jpg....
2012-11-11 07:15:31 PM
1 votes:
Good luck with that. The financial powerhouses are all blue states. You'd have massive joblessness immediately, and without a federal safety net you'd have starvation and eventually riots.
2012-11-11 07:06:07 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: They'll come back when the moderate Democrats do.


why would they be stimulated to come back by the right wing democratic party moving towards the center?
2012-11-11 06:56:55 PM
1 votes:
FWIW...........

Not that any of these wing-nut glue sniffers every bothered to check, but secession is a lot more complicated than putting up a few EZ-Pass booths at the state line. This particular article was probably written in response to the Bush election fiasco, but just switch the colors and the state names. The rest is academic.

Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede?
With Permission, Perhaps; Unilaterally, No
(findlaw.com)
By Michael C. Dorf
FindLaw
November 24, 2004
2012-11-11 06:53:20 PM
1 votes:

kab: I love how Texas, who typically has it's hand out more than any other state for 'disasters', who goes to the fed just to make their state education budgets (while not asking their own population to cover the bill), still plays the secede card.

So yeah...
[fireden.net image 348x355]


That assessment is about as accurate as Fox News' assessment of the Obama administration. No offense.

Texas had its hand out recently due to the wildfires, but that was once and not much more than any other state facing major disasters. I can't think of any other disasters we (yeah yeah, Texan here) have been begging aid for. The education business was 1 billion that congress was considering withholding despite "owing" it by their regular math.

The problems, of course, are that Texas' massive budget problems are the result of Rick Perry's Republican cronyism and theft, he slashed the fire budget right before the major wildfires, and DURING them as well, because he couldn't fiddle with the numbers and hide all his graft any further. The reason the fed was talking about holding back the money is because Perry already STOLE (oh excuse me, "re-appropriated") billions of dollars from the education budget for the same reason he slashed the fire budget.

Finally, Texas is, shockingly, a donor state (check red state socialism, it's on there) but the reasons are somewhat suspect. First, obviously, Texas has a lot of oil money, and a lot of "Elephant graveyards" where old Republicans go to die. Second, as a major gateway to Mexico Texas has a lot of through traffic that it makes money off of one way or another, in fact secessionists and others fantasize about taxing or cheating more money out of that traffic (see the boondoggle that was the TTC). Finally did I mention oil money? I didn't just mean local pumping, much of the oil Venezuela produces gets refined on Texas' section of the Gulf Coast, and it isn't just Venezuelan oil that shows up here.

The outcome of a Texas secession would be quite complicated, but smart money says it would be bad for everyone.

Certain OTHER states though...yeah.
2012-11-11 06:47:42 PM
1 votes:
And if these states secede, all of the medicare and social security that some of their citizens collect will go away.

I don't think they've thought this plan all the way to.
2012-11-11 06:42:53 PM
1 votes:

Sock Ruh Tease: Because stupid hicks in rural areas are similar on either side of the Mason-Dixon line.


While there's some superficial similarities, the ones to the south of it thump their Bibles a LOT harder.

hubiestubert: Call me when this gets past the "Crank with a keyboard firing off letters" stage.


Specifically, re-greenlight when one of them passes the 25k signature threshold that gets official response.
2012-11-11 06:39:50 PM
1 votes:

YouAreItNoTagBacks: No one's done this yet?

theelephantgun.files.wordpress.com

That should be the entire thread.
2012-11-11 06:36:34 PM
1 votes:
Hows about self deportation?
2012-11-11 06:31:07 PM
1 votes:
Secession has been tried.
Plus, we have a military that is freshly trained in COIN and hostile occupation from the last decade of festivities in the various sand boxes.

Bring it, derpers. We need the jobs.
2012-11-11 06:27:51 PM
1 votes:

SamFlagg: I'm going to have to point out that reporting on this level of derpitude in such a manner as to indicate that the "states" themselves are filing is proooooooobably contributing to the overall level of stupid in terms of understanding how government functions.


We are approaching a singularity of stupid.
2012-11-11 06:26:21 PM
1 votes:

machodonkeywrestler: I'd like to point out that Obama got 46% of the popular vote from GA.


That's what sucks about the electoral college. Not every part of Georgia are shiat kicking hicks and Florida for example is like three different countries.
2012-11-11 06:24:10 PM
1 votes:

Forbidden Doughnut: Sock Ruh Tease: It isn't even about north and south. This is just urban vs. rural now. That's the reason states like Oregon, New Jersey and New York are in that list. Because stupid hicks in rural areas are similar on either side of the Mason-Dixon line.

I live in (semi) rural Oregon. I can vouch for this.

/ it gets even derpier in the southern part of the State, and in the east...


Cascadia will exclude those areas, and everyone will be happier for it.
2012-11-11 06:17:41 PM
1 votes:

globalwarmingpraiser: Louisians and Texas would be ok. A lot of the rest not so much. Oil and all of that. Oh and Duck calls.


Oil and the biggest industrial shipping ports on the Gulf and, really, the East Coast. Houston, especially, is kind of the LA of the East.

Of course, that's also why no one has ever seriously suggested seceding (note that these stories have to actually go looking for these nutters, not the other way around), a border with tarriffs up north and the lack of an FTA to the south (since that comes from the US) would hurt both the state and the US a lot more than it would help either. In the end, it's money that makes these kinds of decisions, and every single financial factor is firmly on the side of not being a retard. The US has made basically every single state of the union immensely richer than it would have been otherwise.

Yes, even the agricultural, shipping, and mining states. The high incomes that urban states hold up as evidence that their greater contribution to the group don't exist without the raw materials, shipping, and manufacturing coming through and from the rural states, and life in the rural states isn't very pleasant without the easy access to consumer goods from the urban areas. 's called hinterlands, biatches.
2012-11-11 06:03:58 PM
1 votes:
On my phone so I can't do it, but can someone do a petition to the WH to start a culture immersion program to send anti-government, secessionist folks to Somalia?
2012-11-11 05:45:11 PM
1 votes:

SilentStrider: Arthur Jumbles: Some random idiot sends off a letter. Wake me up when it's the governor and senators making the request.

At this point, wouldn't surprise me if that was in the works.


It would surprise me if someone serious was doing it. But yeah, we have had "token" petitions and speeches from governors and senators, like Rick Perry.

Oh wait, he walked that back with, "I never said we should, just that we could in a conversation about Obama's America is evil soshulism." Because Rick Perry is a pussy as well as a jackass.
2012-11-11 05:42:40 PM
1 votes:

deeyablo: I love my state (Texas), and I think Houston is incredibly underrated. Massive amount of cultural diversity, learning, arts, good people, great food.

The direction my state has been going, I am not against moving. I have lived here my entire life, and consider myself Texan, through and through. That said, I think I need to be in a state that wants to go in a direction I believe in, where education is not politicized, where the working poor are not marginalized, where people care about the glory of their natural world, and want to preserve it.

I wish for better for my state. It causes me anguish.


Houston is a great place to leave.

/went to college there, then went to Alaska to get as far away from there as I could.
2012-11-11 05:41:22 PM
1 votes:
What would you redneck peckerwoods have done in WII if you won the Civil War?
2012-11-11 05:34:19 PM
1 votes:
Can we get some money together and send each person who signed that petition an I-AM-A-BIG-OL'-CRYBABY tee shirt? I hate to imagine how these folks would have behaved if the Gore v. Bush situation had occurred this time with Romney as Gore and Obama as Bush.
2012-11-11 05:27:57 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com
2012-11-11 05:25:20 PM
1 votes:
All cited patriotism and a deeply felt love of country as key reasons to secede.
2012-11-11 05:24:48 PM
1 votes:
No...please, god...not PETITIONS!

Link.

Such great Americans...once an election doesn't go their way, they want to piss on the graves of all the TRUE patriots who died so they could be whiny biatches and just leave the United States.

The 101st Keyboarders have a new unit - the Benedict Arnold Brigade.
2012-11-11 05:24:35 PM
1 votes:

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Did this happen in 2004? I heard that Dems reacted the same.


Yep, sure an' they did. I mean, they must have, right? BOF SIEDS SAEM?
2012-11-11 05:23:53 PM
1 votes:

Foxxinnia: CPennypacker: [www.strongtowns.org image 800x588]

DO IT WE COULD USE THE MONEY YOU farkING FREELOADERS

Is that picture ever going to get updated? It's been eight years and shiatheads still point to it. I doubt an updated version would be significantly different anyway.


31, 34, 41, 49 are blue now so its even better
2012-11-11 05:23:23 PM
1 votes:
Link

Feeling a little snarky today.
2012-11-11 05:20:44 PM
1 votes:
Nothing to see here. Just self-registration for the Derp List of Butthurt Republicans.

They'll volunteer their names for something like this, which singles them out as revolutionary radicals, but they don't want to register their guns. Do they realize that a government that's going around rounding up guns (which is an insane belief to begin with) won't NEED a gun registration list?

"Oh, this guy is an anti-government blogger who signed a petition to secede and has made numerous posts about shooting guns on message boards, but his name isn't on the gun registration list. He's clean. Next house...."

Derrrrrrrrp.
2012-11-11 05:19:40 PM
1 votes:

tdpatriots12: I love the idiot(s) in the comments who said the Civil War wasn't about slavery.

If there is a bigger myth hoisted upon the American people about its own history, I can't think of one.

That Lost Cause movement that started before the Confederate guns even went silent sure was effective, it made it so that centuries later, nobody even bothers to read contemporary things like newspaper articles, political statements, Confederate constitutions, or even secession documents.

(Yes "state's rights." The state's right was slavery.)


I've heard many Southerners claim it was a war over states rights, and envy over their wealth.
Not kidding.
2012-11-11 05:19:10 PM
1 votes:
Get your asses to Somalia.
2012-11-11 05:14:11 PM
1 votes:
...it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living...

gorzek.com
2012-11-11 05:12:29 PM
1 votes:
Nothing to see here but private citizen temper tantrums. It's gonna be a long walk down from the top of bullshiat mountain.
2012-11-11 05:12:10 PM
1 votes:
So, what happens when these kooks get enough signatures to put it to a vote?

A call for counties to secede from their states that defeated the measure? A call for towns to leave their counties? For houses to form their own sovereign nations?

www.unrealcotton.com
2012-11-11 05:12:02 PM
1 votes:
Centuries from now, whatever people are using for an encylopedia will record all of this as the most retarded circumstances under which any nation in the history of the world ever fell into civil war.
2012-11-11 05:12:02 PM
1 votes:
They could buy me and those who don't want out of the USA out of our property.

I'd happily give a few of these assholes some lead poisoning.

/ITG
2012-11-11 05:06:55 PM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: As of 12:46 am, Sunday, signatures obtained by Louisiana, 7,358; Texas, 3,771; Florida, 636; Georgia, 475; Alabama, 834; North Carolina, 792; Kentucky, 467; Mississippi, 475; Indiana, 449; North Dakota, 162; Montana, 440; Colorado, 324; Oregon, 328; New Jersey, 301 and New York, 169. Many more States are expected to follow.


Meanwhile, the Save City of Heroes petition is currently at over 21,000 signatures. I'm still amused.
2012-11-11 05:06:03 PM
1 votes:

Wyalt Derp: js34603: Before the Well Byes and the air of superiority becomes too overwhelming in here, maybe take a look at the article and realize its random crackpots in these states trying to petition for this on the same Obama site that has featured other such winning petitions as releasing the truth about UFOs and the disclosure of the White House beer recipe.

Wasn't that last one successful?


Uhhh yeah.
I got a keg of it on tap in my basement....

The site is good for raising awareness, nothing more. Its not going to change anyones idea, but can give public pressure to something that the government thought no-one cared about.
2012-11-11 05:03:52 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-11-11 05:01:38 PM
1 votes:
Or, ya know, BECUZZ JEZUSS or sumpin.

/hiccup
2012-11-11 05:01:31 PM
1 votes:
So, i don't recall the 475 Georgians who've signed that petition ever checking with the other 9,814,735 of us as to our opinion on the issue...

(The one good thing about the insane population growth and urban sprawl in Atlanta over the 32 years I've lived here is that it's starting to edge up the voting numbers into the blue enough to balance the crazy, crazy red in the rest of the state...2016 swing state, maybe? or if not, then 2020?)
2012-11-11 05:01:25 PM
1 votes:
"I'm a real American! We should secede! Imagine how awesome it would be! We would have more room for activities!"
"The electoral system that got my favored candidate in office the last time is now a complete failure!"

I imagine that these are typical thoughts for these secessionist loons, or perhaps the most advance thinking for which they are capable, but their failure to see the illogical conclusion is disturbing. I'm wondering if we have made it too easy for idiots to elevate their message beyond simply griping to a neighbor, or if it's a failure of our current educational system to instill an understanding of the federal government's role.
2012-11-11 05:01:25 PM
1 votes:

js34603: Before the Well Byes and the air of superiority becomes too overwhelming in here, maybe take a look at the article and realize its random crackpots in these states trying to petition for this on the same Obama site that has featured other such winning petitions as releasing the truth about UFOs and the disclosure of the White House beer recipe.


Wasn't that last one successful?
2012-11-11 05:01:09 PM
1 votes:

js34603: bulldg4life: js34603: Before the Well Byes and the air of superiority becomes too overwhelming in here, maybe take a look at the article and realize its random crackpots in these states trying to petition for this on the same Obama site that has featured other such winning petitions as releasing the truth about UFOs and the disclosure of the White House beer recipe.

In other words, crazies gonna crazy. Stop cheering for states to leave the country, it makes you look just as bad as them.

Laughing at idiots that cry about secession cause Obama won is not remotely the same as crying about secession because Obama won.

I swear, this week has produced the most idiotic "bot sides are bad" comments in the history of ever.

Yeah cheering for states to leave the country? That's not both sides are bad, that's both sides are stupid. If you think your state should leave the union, you're an idiot. If you actually think it would be a good thing for states to leave the union, you're an idiot, too.


Laughing at idiots =/= cheering states to leave the country.

Reading is hard :(
2012-11-11 05:00:14 PM
1 votes:

quickdraw: Poor things. So brainwashedless. Bless their hearts.


Bless their hearts.
2012-11-11 04:56:12 PM
1 votes:
A basic understanding of United States civics and government does not seem to be in the wheelhouse of these "patriots".

It is kind of like all of the "patriots" claiming voting fraud issues while refusing to blame their secretaries of state who would be the ones responsible for any issues related to voting in their states.
2012-11-11 04:53:04 PM
1 votes:
And while I figure that some folks imagine their new nations will inherit military bases, I don't think that the US is going to give up Fort Hood. Or even Fort Bliss. They might give Polk to Louisiana just to be rid of it...
2012-11-11 04:49:47 PM
1 votes:
It's not secession when a few hundred racist yokel shiatbags pass a petition around the klan meeting.
2012-11-11 04:49:19 PM
1 votes:
"New York, 169."

There's more people than that living in a single apartment house in NYC.
2012-11-11 04:48:22 PM
1 votes:
Louisiana has the most collected signatures at 7,538.

That's 0.16% of the population of Louisiana.

And they need 25,000 for the Obama administration to consider the request?

That's 0.55% of the population of Louisiana.

If half of one percent of the population wants to secede, it seems to me the more conservative thing for them to do would be to just leave the country.
2012-11-11 04:45:53 PM
1 votes:
I turned off NoScript temporarily to read the comments out of a perverse curiosity.

I'm sad now. That there's some nuclear grade weaponized Derp.
2012-11-11 04:43:45 PM
1 votes:
What happens when every state has a petition? Do people think every state can function as it's own country? Do they think that Obama would be automatically impeached? The derp is just too much.
2012-11-11 04:42:03 PM
1 votes:

blastoh: OtherLittleGuy: Bad time, guys. All those troops from Iraq and Afghanistan are coming home. Even in 15 states, putting down a Second Rebellion should be no trouble.

Naaa, Just have Obama declare that since they are no longer willing to be part of the nation, we can no longer trust them enough to place military bases there.
So, for example, we are closing down Fort Bragg in Texas and moving it to some other more reasonable state. .


Bragg is in North Carolina, fwiw.
2012-11-11 04:41:59 PM
1 votes:
If they want to leave, let them leave if they can figure out a practical non-violent way to do it. No more talk of treason, sedition, or other such crap (sedition should never be a crime). The will of the people should be followed and lets figure out how to do it constitutionally afterwards. This applies equally to Scotland, Catalonia, and, conversely, the Falklands.

Now, the more interesting question is, how can we guarantee in practice the rights of people in these seceding states that want to stay in the Union? We don't want another epic Greece-Turkey, East Prussia/Bohemia-Germany, India-Pakistan migration that results in millions of deaths.
2012-11-11 04:41:43 PM
1 votes:
So, I guess New York and New Jersey can clean up that hurricane damage all on their own then? Same for Louisiana. Florida and Georgia got that too, I'm sure. They'll just take insurance against potential hazard, and the sweet market will beg them to make contracts, because they'll be so viable as nation states...
2012-11-11 04:41:16 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: Smackledorfer: OPEN YOUR EYES to Agenda 21.

Ahhh, yes, Agenda 21. I forget, is that the Gay Agenda or the Atheist Agenda?


It's the Gay Atheist Socialist Nazi Muslim Agenda.
2012-11-11 04:39:06 PM
1 votes:
FTFA- Texas was the next State to follow by a Micah H. from Arlington, Texas.
Looks like Skinnyhead's movin on up in the world!
2012-11-11 04:39:00 PM
1 votes:

js34603: Before the Well Byes and the air of superiority becomes too overwhelming in here, maybe take a look at the article and realize its random crackpots in these states trying to petition for this on the same Obama site that has featured other such winning petitions as releasing the truth about UFOs and the disclosure of the White House beer recipe.

In other words, crazies gonna crazy. Stop cheering for states to leave the country, it makes you look just as bad as them.


You know what nation was founded by "just a few crackpots", as you put it?

That's right. Australia.
2012-11-11 04:38:03 PM
1 votes:
Morons. So much for "democracy" in their eyes.
2012-11-11 04:37:29 PM
1 votes:

Russ1642: Arthur Jumbles: Some random idiot sends off a letter. Wake me up when it's the governor and senators making the request.

And since when do these random idiots amount to The State wanting to secede?


Since the Examiner (home of unskewed pollster Dean Chambers) degrees it so. They're equivalent to WND and Freeperville in the derp department. Point and laugh and then move on.
2012-11-11 04:37:28 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: Generation_D: I think what this says is those of us who have been waiting for a calm, rational, centrist/right Republican party to come back and join the table have been sorely mistake

They'll come back when the moderate Democrats do.


Not that I accept your premise, but you're saying that the extreme, reality-denying GOPers are caused by a rightward-moving left?
2012-11-11 04:36:21 PM
1 votes:

OtherLittleGuy: Bad time, guys. All those troops from Iraq and Afghanistan are coming home. Even in 15 states, putting down a Second Rebellion should be no trouble.


Naaa, Just have Obama declare that since they are no longer willing to be part of the nation, we can no longer trust them enough to place military bases there.
So, for example, we are closing down Fort Bragg in Texas and moving it to some other more reasonable state. .
2012-11-11 04:35:01 PM
1 votes:

Sock Ruh Tease: It isn't even about north and south. This is just urban vs. rural now. That's the reason states like Oregon, New Jersey and New York are in that list. Because stupid hicks in rural areas are similar on either side of the Mason-Dixon line.


I live in (semi) rural Oregon. I can vouch for this.

/ it gets even derpier in the southern part of the State, and in the east...
2012-11-11 04:31:18 PM
1 votes:
DOOOOOOOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTT, SUCKAS!

/Double-dog dare ya.
2012-11-11 04:29:23 PM
1 votes:

YouAreItNoTagBacks: No one's done this yet?

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It includes Oregon. While my fellow Californians might cut my dick off for this... I LOVE Oregon.

Not Oregon drivers though. You farking suck.
2012-11-11 04:25:17 PM
1 votes:
I can think of a handful of states I'd happily sign petitions to be rid of.
2012-11-11 04:24:18 PM
1 votes:
Morons.
2012-11-11 02:34:09 PM
1 votes:
Get on with it!
2012-11-11 01:13:19 PM
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Well, so much for working together for a better country. As usual, the GOP slags are doing the dirty work for their puppet masters. 

Same as it ever was.....(youtube)
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2012-11-11 01:12:47 PM
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2012-11-11 12:58:37 PM
1 votes:
Still boring
 
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