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(Examiner)   Texas wants to secede from the Union? Boring.... Fifteen states file petitions to secede? Now we're talking   (examiner.com) divider line 308
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2012-11-11 05:36:12 PM  
I love my state (Texas), and I think Houston is incredibly underrated. Massive amount of cultural diversity, learning, arts, good people, great food.

The direction my state has been going, I am not against moving. I have lived here my entire life, and consider myself Texan, through and through. That said, I think I need to be in a state that wants to go in a direction I believe in, where education is not politicized, where the working poor are not marginalized, where people care about the glory of their natural world, and want to preserve it.

I wish for better for my state. It causes me anguish.
 
2012-11-11 05:40:08 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-11-11 05:41:06 PM  
But remember, it's the liberals that are anti-American.
 
2012-11-11 05:41:22 PM  
What would you redneck peckerwoods have done in WII if you won the Civil War?
 
2012-11-11 05:42:40 PM  

deeyablo: I love my state (Texas), and I think Houston is incredibly underrated. Massive amount of cultural diversity, learning, arts, good people, great food.

The direction my state has been going, I am not against moving. I have lived here my entire life, and consider myself Texan, through and through. That said, I think I need to be in a state that wants to go in a direction I believe in, where education is not politicized, where the working poor are not marginalized, where people care about the glory of their natural world, and want to preserve it.

I wish for better for my state. It causes me anguish.


Houston is a great place to leave.

/went to college there, then went to Alaska to get as far away from there as I could.
 
2012-11-11 05:43:01 PM  
Can we also petition to kick some states out?
 
2012-11-11 05:45:11 PM  

SilentStrider: Arthur Jumbles: Some random idiot sends off a letter. Wake me up when it's the governor and senators making the request.

At this point, wouldn't surprise me if that was in the works.


It would surprise me if someone serious was doing it. But yeah, we have had "token" petitions and speeches from governors and senators, like Rick Perry.

Oh wait, he walked that back with, "I never said we should, just that we could in a conversation about Obama's America is evil soshulism." Because Rick Perry is a pussy as well as a jackass.
 
2012-11-11 05:46:03 PM  
i280.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-11 05:47:27 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: sithon: sedition ? treason ? should people be arrested now.

And all because the Black Guy won.


This. Sadly this.
 
2012-11-11 05:47:41 PM  
www.cdsporch.org
 
2012-11-11 05:49:54 PM  
These citizen generated petitions were filed just days after the 2012 Presidential election.

Has anyone else noticed that almost every single one of these "x state wants to succeed" is a couple random jackoffs that have no power or elected office in the state, usually on the political equivalent of an anonymized internet message board? aka trolls?

What is it with the big media conglomerates and feeding the trolls?

//The only time it was actual news was when Rick Perry settled it, and he backpedaled so hard that a video of the event fell through time and was used in Superman II.
 
2012-11-11 05:50:14 PM  
The Examiner could solve the huge trillion dollar deficit by just writing a check. And the potatoes coming out of its ass could end world hunger.

//fake "paper" that appears only around election cycles
 
2012-11-11 05:51:04 PM  
Republicans ran against a Kenyan, Muslim, Communist, Socialist, Radical Negroid.

And they lost.

i165.photobucket.com
 
2012-11-11 05:52:05 PM  
Louisians and Texas would be ok. A lot of the rest not so much. Oil and all of that. Oh and Duck calls.
 
2012-11-11 05:54:17 PM  
Texas by itself would be little bit less important than Canada. Those others especially landlocked ones would quickly be forgotten.
 
kab
2012-11-11 05:57:33 PM  
I love how Texas, who typically has it's hand out more than any other state for 'disasters', who goes to the fed just to make their state education budgets (while not asking their own population to cover the bill), still plays the secede card.

So yeah...
fireden.net
 
2012-11-11 05:58:44 PM  
What, no petition from Idaho? I would have thought that there'd be at least one wingnut who has internet access and realizes that they haven't already seceded.
 
2012-11-11 05:59:12 PM  

hubiestubert: Good luck with that.

Call me when this gets past the "Crank with a keyboard firing off letters" stage. You know, when legislators and Governors are making these sorts of calls. Folks certainly have the right to mutter and natter on, but if they're going to rely on militias to get 'er done, they might want to reconsider.

FTFA:

As of 12:46 am, Sunday, signatures obtained by Louisiana, 7,358; Texas, 3,771; Florida, 636; Georgia, 475; Alabama, 834; North Carolina, 792; Kentucky, 467; Mississippi, 475; Indiana, 449; North Dakota, 162; Montana, 440; Colorado, 324; Oregon, 328; New Jersey, 301 and New York, 169. Many more States are expected to follow.

Interesting to note that Arizona and Nevada aren't on that list. Then again, they sort of rely on Hoover Dam to make their communities actually viable...


Hey! THEY built that!
 
2012-11-11 06:01:34 PM  
I think another William Sherman style approach to the southern states would be beneficial for keeping the union intact.
 
2012-11-11 06:03:58 PM  
On my phone so I can't do it, but can someone do a petition to the WH to start a culture immersion program to send anti-government, secessionist folks to Somalia?
 
2012-11-11 06:07:17 PM  

Weaver95: I gotta be honest. some days I find it very difficult to tell the tea party from the UFO nutballs


It's simple - one group clings to their oddball obsessions and delusions and doesn't understand why the rest of society won't wake up, see the truth, and accept that they're right, and the other group believes in flying saucers.
 
2012-11-11 06:08:42 PM  
I'd like to point out that Obama got 46% of the popular vote from GA.
 
2012-11-11 06:10:18 PM  
I love the way the derp brigade in the comments section think the U.S. military is "their" army.
 
2012-11-11 06:12:46 PM  
Limbaugh was recently musing about a fabulous world in which America was physically split 50/50 between the major political parties.

The theory being the "moocher class" ensconced in the "blue" states would have no more struggling atlas' to leech off of - prompting imminent collapse.

Wouldn't the millions of elderly, white, Medicare and social security recipients that consistently vote republican be on the debit side of the ledger in red states in that case?
 
2012-11-11 06:15:08 PM  

OneBrightMonkey: Limbaugh was recently musing about a fabulous world in which America was physically split 50/50 between the major political parties.

The theory being the "moocher class" ensconced in the "blue" states would have no more struggling atlas' to leech off of - prompting imminent collapse.

Wouldn't the millions of elderly, white, Medicare and social security recipients that consistently vote republican be on the debit side of the ledger in red states in that case?


The red states would be apocalyptic wastelands of decrepit old people and redneck high school dropouts. But, really, it's Rush, what exactly do you expect?
 
2012-11-11 06:15:43 PM  

shastacola: I love the way the derp brigade in the comments section think the U.S. military is "their" army.


"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)


We wouldn't want our servicemen and servicewomen to break an oath before God, would we?
 
2012-11-11 06:17:41 PM  

globalwarmingpraiser: Louisians and Texas would be ok. A lot of the rest not so much. Oil and all of that. Oh and Duck calls.


Oil and the biggest industrial shipping ports on the Gulf and, really, the East Coast. Houston, especially, is kind of the LA of the East.

Of course, that's also why no one has ever seriously suggested seceding (note that these stories have to actually go looking for these nutters, not the other way around), a border with tarriffs up north and the lack of an FTA to the south (since that comes from the US) would hurt both the state and the US a lot more than it would help either. In the end, it's money that makes these kinds of decisions, and every single financial factor is firmly on the side of not being a retard. The US has made basically every single state of the union immensely richer than it would have been otherwise.

Yes, even the agricultural, shipping, and mining states. The high incomes that urban states hold up as evidence that their greater contribution to the group don't exist without the raw materials, shipping, and manufacturing coming through and from the rural states, and life in the rural states isn't very pleasant without the easy access to consumer goods from the urban areas. 's called hinterlands, biatches.
 
2012-11-11 06:19:29 PM  

BlippityBleep: oh gawd let oregon go. pleasepleasepleaseplease!


FREEMYPEOPLE! FREEMYPEOPLE!
 
2012-11-11 06:21:16 PM  
It's a little early for that.
 
2012-11-11 06:24:10 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Sock Ruh Tease: It isn't even about north and south. This is just urban vs. rural now. That's the reason states like Oregon, New Jersey and New York are in that list. Because stupid hicks in rural areas are similar on either side of the Mason-Dixon line.

I live in (semi) rural Oregon. I can vouch for this.

/ it gets even derpier in the southern part of the State, and in the east...


Cascadia will exclude those areas, and everyone will be happier for it.
 
2012-11-11 06:26:21 PM  

machodonkeywrestler: I'd like to point out that Obama got 46% of the popular vote from GA.


That's what sucks about the electoral college. Not every part of Georgia are shiat kicking hicks and Florida for example is like three different countries.
 
2012-11-11 06:27:51 PM  

SamFlagg: I'm going to have to point out that reporting on this level of derpitude in such a manner as to indicate that the "states" themselves are filing is proooooooobably contributing to the overall level of stupid in terms of understanding how government functions.


We are approaching a singularity of stupid.
 
2012-11-11 06:31:07 PM  
Secession has been tried.
Plus, we have a military that is freshly trained in COIN and hostile occupation from the last decade of festivities in the various sand boxes.

Bring it, derpers. We need the jobs.
 
2012-11-11 06:34:14 PM  

Mugato: machodonkeywrestler: I'd like to point out that Obama got 46% of the popular vote from GA.

That's what sucks about the electoral college. Not every part of Georgia are shiat kicking hicks and Florida for example is like three different countries.


States could easily pass laws that gave the Electoral votes by district, they just have no incentive to do so. Many states are not all or none for EV's
 
2012-11-11 06:36:34 PM  
Hows about self deportation?
 
2012-11-11 06:37:26 PM  
OneBrightMonkey 2012-11-11 06:12:46 PM

Limbaugh was recently musing about a fabulous world in which America was physically split 50/50 between the major political parties.

The theory being the "moocher class" ensconced in the "blue" states would have no more struggling atlas' to leech off of - prompting imminent collapse.

Wouldn't the millions of elderly, white, Medicare and social security recipients that consistently vote republican be on the debit side of the ledger in red states in that case?


YUP.

I keep dammit TELLING you guys, these 'Publicans WANT to quite literally cut off and kill large portions of their voter base.

Not metaphorically, either.
 
2012-11-11 06:39:13 PM  

Generation_D: And then my quality of life drops because I have to support rounding them up and shooting them like the swine they are. And that sucks, there's so much better uses for that money.


And yet, rounding them up and shooting them proactively makes THEM the victims.
 
2012-11-11 06:39:21 PM  

born_yesterday: js34603: Before the Well Byes and the air of superiority becomes too overwhelming in here, maybe take a look at the article and realize its random crackpots in these states trying to petition for this on the same Obama site that has featured other such winning petitions as releasing the truth about UFOs and the disclosure of the White House beer recipe.

In other words, crazies gonna crazy. Stop cheering for states to leave the country, it makes you look just as bad as them.

You know what nation was founded by "just a few crackpots", as you put it?

That's right. Australia.


After starting as a British prison It was actually formed by mass immigration just like the USA. Luckily for Australia relatively few of the immigrants were overly religious.
 
2012-11-11 06:39:29 PM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: Can't wait for my taxes to drop from the southern states no longer mooching off the other states!


CPennypacker: [www.strongtowns.org image 800x588]

DO IT WE COULD USE THE MONEY YOU farkING FREELOADERS


What they both (and that chart) said.
 
2012-11-11 06:39:47 PM  

Arthur Jumbles: Some random idiot sends off a letter. Wake me up when it's the governor and senators making the request.


This.

FTA: As of 12:46 am, Sunday, signatures obtained by Louisiana, 7,358; Texas, 3,771; Florida, 636; Georgia, 475; Alabama, 834; North Carolina, 792; Kentucky, 467; Mississippi, 475; Indiana, 449; North Dakota, 162; Montana, 440; Colorado, 324; Oregon, 328; New Jersey, 301 and New York, 169 (??).

Why is this even news?
 
2012-11-11 06:39:50 PM  

YouAreItNoTagBacks: No one's done this yet?

theelephantgun.files.wordpress.com

That should be the entire thread.
 
2012-11-11 06:42:53 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Because stupid hicks in rural areas are similar on either side of the Mason-Dixon line.


While there's some superficial similarities, the ones to the south of it thump their Bibles a LOT harder.

hubiestubert: Call me when this gets past the "Crank with a keyboard firing off letters" stage.


Specifically, re-greenlight when one of them passes the 25k signature threshold that gets official response.
 
2012-11-11 06:47:42 PM  
And if these states secede, all of the medicare and social security that some of their citizens collect will go away.

I don't think they've thought this plan all the way to.
 
2012-11-11 06:49:28 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: blastoh: OtherLittleGuy: Bad time, guys. All those troops from Iraq and Afghanistan are coming home. Even in 15 states, putting down a Second Rebellion should be no trouble.

Naaa, Just have Obama declare that since they are no longer willing to be part of the nation, we can no longer trust them enough to place military bases there.
So, for example, we are closing down Fort Bragg in Texas and moving it to some other more reasonable state. .

Bragg is in North Carolina, fwiw.


Bragg, Hood, whatever...
 
2012-11-11 06:50:03 PM  
Not that it's going to happen, but I wonder what would happen to those of us who were born in those states but no longer live in them.
 
2012-11-11 06:53:20 PM  

kab: I love how Texas, who typically has it's hand out more than any other state for 'disasters', who goes to the fed just to make their state education budgets (while not asking their own population to cover the bill), still plays the secede card.

So yeah...
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That assessment is about as accurate as Fox News' assessment of the Obama administration. No offense.

Texas had its hand out recently due to the wildfires, but that was once and not much more than any other state facing major disasters. I can't think of any other disasters we (yeah yeah, Texan here) have been begging aid for. The education business was 1 billion that congress was considering withholding despite "owing" it by their regular math.

The problems, of course, are that Texas' massive budget problems are the result of Rick Perry's Republican cronyism and theft, he slashed the fire budget right before the major wildfires, and DURING them as well, because he couldn't fiddle with the numbers and hide all his graft any further. The reason the fed was talking about holding back the money is because Perry already STOLE (oh excuse me, "re-appropriated") billions of dollars from the education budget for the same reason he slashed the fire budget.

Finally, Texas is, shockingly, a donor state (check red state socialism, it's on there) but the reasons are somewhat suspect. First, obviously, Texas has a lot of oil money, and a lot of "Elephant graveyards" where old Republicans go to die. Second, as a major gateway to Mexico Texas has a lot of through traffic that it makes money off of one way or another, in fact secessionists and others fantasize about taxing or cheating more money out of that traffic (see the boondoggle that was the TTC). Finally did I mention oil money? I didn't just mean local pumping, much of the oil Venezuela produces gets refined on Texas' section of the Gulf Coast, and it isn't just Venezuelan oil that shows up here.

The outcome of a Texas secession would be quite complicated, but smart money says it would be bad for everyone.

Certain OTHER states though...yeah.
 
2012-11-11 06:54:53 PM  
Pah. I've signed a bunch of similar petitions, even once contributed to a group who pledged to gather signuratures, and all of them are still part of the US.

The Great Wall of Texas project, a 50' by 50' wall to separate Texass from the rest of the US. it would have been awsome.
 
2012-11-11 06:55:59 PM  
citizen generated petitions
 
2012-11-11 06:56:25 PM  
So... people created nonbinding e-petitions that can be created by any idiot with internet access? Still boring.
 
2012-11-11 06:56:39 PM  

BSABSVR: The states aren't filing, dumbfark.


THAT.
 
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