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(The Raw Story)   "Four presidents in the last century have won 50 percent of the vote twice: Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Reagan, and Obama"   (rawstory.com) divider line 113
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2012-11-11 01:11:54 PM  
...ouch.
 
2012-11-11 02:19:09 PM  
So...socialism?
 
2012-11-11 02:36:34 PM  
I didnt realize the 1968 popular vote was so close.
 
2012-11-11 02:38:50 PM  
Bill Kristol saying sensible things...maybe it is the End Times.
 
2012-11-11 02:49:01 PM  
Oh, like any of them really became anything as presidents.
 
2012-11-11 03:27:07 PM  
So, conservatives then?
 
2012-11-11 03:28:24 PM  
Is this one of those gloating things that gets on the conservatives' nerves?
 
2012-11-11 03:28:43 PM  
So basically, Obama is liked by everyone except those who watch Fox News?
 
2012-11-11 03:28:47 PM  
This is bad news........for Taft.
 
2012-11-11 03:28:49 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: So, three conservatives and Reagan?


FTFM
 
2012-11-11 03:30:42 PM  
And that's almost half!
 
2012-11-11 03:31:40 PM  
So those guys didn't have mandates either, then.
 
2012-11-11 03:34:25 PM  
The Obama White House has announced that Butt Hurt will be fully covered under Obamacare.
 
2012-11-11 03:34:42 PM  
This is the second time in recent memory that Bill Kristol has advocated something counter-intuitive to the GOP's position, which is interesting because Bill Kristol is never right about anything.

Ever.

No, seriously. I have never seen a pundit, journalist, critic or political commentator that is more habitually wrong than him. Every prediction, every claim, every assertion he makes is always wrong.

I think he knows this now, so he's deliberately advocating the opposite of what he wants to happen in hopes of being wrong about it.
 
2012-11-11 03:35:15 PM  
That stinking commie Eisenhower and his damned Nazi-collectivist INTERSTATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM! DAMN HIM!
 
2012-11-11 03:36:42 PM  
They'll just keep doing what they've been doing. Republicans will win the house in 2014 because there isn't a figurehead on the ballot in the democrat party to bring people to the polls. The GOP might win the senate too because it's the same people up for election that won when Obama first won, again no figure head to draw people to the polls.

If the dems have any chance of winning a majority in the house, they must have control of the state legislatures when the 2020 census comes out AND liberals must control the supreme court before another epic fail like citizens united gets decided.
 
2012-11-11 03:39:33 PM  

Ishkur: This is the second time in recent memory that Bill Kristol has advocated something counter-intuitive to the GOP's position, which is interesting because Bill Kristol is never right about anything.

Ever.

No, seriously. I have never seen a pundit, journalist, critic or political commentator that is more habitually wrong than him. Every prediction, every claim, every assertion he makes is always wrong.

I think he knows this now, so he's deliberately advocating the opposite of what he wants to happen in hopes of being wrong about it.


But if he's doing it intentionally, maybe he'll end up being wrong about being wrong.
 
2012-11-11 03:40:15 PM  
Didn't FDR win 50% twice twice?
 
2012-11-11 03:40:28 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: they must have control of the state legislatures when the 2020 census comes


Just to add to this point, the Tea Party's sole purpose was to rally people to the polls in 2010 so that state legislatures could be controlled by republicans when the census came out thus ensuring easier control of the house for republicans.
 
2012-11-11 03:41:08 PM  
Not a particular surprise. Wilson, Nixon and Clinton all had a significant third party candidate splitting the vote in one or both of their races. W Bush in 2000 was a special case. The others were only elected once.
 
2012-11-11 03:42:15 PM  

Abner Doon: But if he's doing it intentionally, maybe he'll end up being wrong about being wrong.


I'm sure he's been wrong about that before.
 
2012-11-11 03:44:11 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Republicans will win the house in 2014 because there isn't a figurehead on the ballot in the democrat party to bring people to the polls. The GOP might win the senate too because it's the same people up for election that won when Obama first won, again no figure head to draw people to the polls.


Just so we're clear, even with the "clear figurehead" of Obama in the 2012 election the House is still solidly Republican. The Howard Dean-era "50-state strategy" has been abandoned for a "winnable congressional district" strategy and this is the result. Obama and the DNC essentially ceded the states he was unlikely to win, focusing instead on just the swing states. While this might have been good from the perspective of winning the presidency, we lost a lot of house races that could have potentially been tipped back to blue.
 
2012-11-11 03:46:13 PM  

quartercomma: Didn't FDR win 50% twice twice?


He likes twice.
 
2012-11-11 03:47:25 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Oh, like any of them really became anything as presidents.


www.wearysloth.com 

"I wouldn't worry, Chicago's not a big political strategy town."
 
2012-11-11 03:47:32 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Is this one of those gloating things that gets on the conservatives' nerves?


Well I certainly hope so.
 
2012-11-11 03:48:04 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Not a particular surprise. Wilson, Nixon and Clinton all had a significant third party candidate splitting the vote in one or both of their races. W Bush in 2000 was a special case. The others were only elected once.


Or, in Ford's case, never elected to the office at all.
 
2012-11-11 03:48:08 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: quartercomma: Didn't FDR win 50% twice twice?

He likes twice.


You said "twice" rape.
 
2012-11-11 03:48:10 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Not a particular surprise. Wilson, Nixon and Clinton all had a significant third party candidate splitting the vote in one or both of their races. W Bush in 2000 was a special case. The others were only elected once.


Kinda circular logic tho. There's *always* third party candidates. They only become "significant" when they get more votes. The variable of 3rd party choices is fairly constant, however, I'm pretty sure Obama would have broke 50% no matter who the third party choices were, and that's probably true for Reagan, FDR, and Eisenhower as well.
 
2012-11-11 03:48:57 PM  
...and Reagan is the only empty-suit moron in the whole bunch. But at least he proved why you should never vote for some Hollywood actor to fill the highest office in the land.
 
2012-11-11 03:50:47 PM  
Looks like Kristol needs to be added to The List, if he hasn't been already.
 
2012-11-11 03:50:58 PM  

thamike: The All-Powerful Atheismo: quartercomma: Didn't FDR win 50% twice twice?

He likes twice.

You said "twice" rape.


I doubleplusgood rape.
 
2012-11-11 03:51:33 PM  
Depending on which Roosevelt, Ike's probably my favorite on the list.
 
2012-11-11 03:52:26 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Not a particular surprise. Wilson, Nixon and Clinton all had a significant third party candidate splitting the vote in one or both of their races. W Bush in 2000 was a special case. The others were only elected once.


And do you think that it was completely random that those races had significant third party competition and the others didn't?
 
2012-11-11 03:54:26 PM  

Abner Doon: Ishkur: This is the second time in recent memory that Bill Kristol has advocated something counter-intuitive to the GOP's position, which is interesting because Bill Kristol is never right about anything.

Ever.

No, seriously. I have never seen a pundit, journalist, critic or political commentator that is more habitually wrong than him. Every prediction, every claim, every assertion he makes is always wrong.

I think he knows this now, so he's deliberately advocating the opposite of what he wants to happen in hopes of being wrong about it.

But if he's doing it intentionally, maybe he'll end up being wrong about being wrong.



He's going to Britta Britta-ing.
Way to pull an Abed.
 
2012-11-11 03:54:48 PM  

Smelly McUgly: ...and Reagan is the only empty-suit moron in the whole bunch. But at least he proved why you should never vote for some Hollywood actor to fill the highest office in the land.


I'd like to think 1984 was done more as an Orwell tribute than actual democracy.
 
2012-11-11 03:56:13 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: thamike: The All-Powerful Atheismo: quartercomma: Didn't FDR win 50% twice twice?

He likes twice.

You said "twice" rape.

I doubleplusgoodlegitimate rape.


FTFGOP
 
2012-11-11 03:57:04 PM  

Loaded Six String: Depending on which Roosevelt, Ike's probably my favorite on the list.


Franklin. Teddy was actually only elected president once (he took office when William McKinley was assassinated).
 
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2012-11-11 03:57:30 PM  

DamnYankees: I didnt realize the 1968 popular vote was so close.


liberals shot themselves in the foot with all the anti-war protesting at the DNC convention. image if nixon was never elected.....we wouldn't have had a carter.
 
2012-11-11 03:59:08 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Smelly McUgly: ...and Reagan is the only empty-suit moron in the whole bunch. But at least he proved why you should never vote for some Hollywood actor to fill the highest office in the land.

I'd like to think 1984 was done more as an Orwell tribute than actual democracy.


I was born in '82. Even as a young child, I could tell that the '80s were a screwed-up time to be alive, even if I didn't know that it was the unholy duo of Reagan and Thatcher that were determined to make everything terrible.
 
2012-11-11 03:59:21 PM  

Loaded Six String: Depending on which Roosevelt, Ike's probably my favorite on the list.


From the Headline: last century

Unless 2012 - 1904
 
2012-11-11 04:00:53 PM  

clkeagle: Loaded Six String: Depending on which Roosevelt, Ike's probably my favorite on the list.

From the Headline: last century

Unless 2012 - 1904

is less than a hundred, I think it's pretty clear which president.

/yes, I screwed up a post while trying to mock someone else. I produce my own shadenfreude.
 
2012-11-11 04:01:54 PM  

Ishkur: This is the second time in recent memory that Bill Kristol has advocated something counter-intuitive to the GOP's position, which is interesting because Bill Kristol is never right about anything.

Ever.

No, seriously. I have never seen a pundit, journalist, critic or political commentator that is more habitually wrong than him. Every prediction, every claim, every assertion he makes is always wrong.

I think he knows this now, so he's deliberately advocating the opposite of what he wants to happen in hopes of being wrong about it.


But he encouraged McCain to pick Palin as his running mate. So he's got that going for him.
 
2012-11-11 04:02:00 PM  

St_Francis_P: So...socialism?



if we could jes git rid of all dem soczialst, we'd have freedom!
 
2012-11-11 04:02:12 PM  

quartercomma: Didn't FDR win 50% twice twice?


No...four times, which doesn't count by GOP math.

Oh wait...that IS "twice twice".
 
2012-11-11 04:03:04 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: The Obama White House has announced that Butt Hurt will be fully covered under Obamacare.


Damn.
Colonoscopies are expensive and invasive procedures... not sure I like this
 
2012-11-11 04:03:34 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: But he's teh MOSTEST DIVISIVE PREZ EVAR!!1!

[little_girl_upskirt.gif]

NOBODY I KNOW VOTED FOR HIM!! FRAUD!!11!


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-11 04:04:20 PM  
You buried the lead Subby!

'You know what? It won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires.' It really won't, I don't think." - Bill Kristol

/mind blown
 
2012-11-11 04:05:28 PM  
I think that is obviously definitive proof of widespread, rampant voter fraud. We all know that no real American would have voted for that socialist sheriff who is near. 0bummer probably had closer to 10% in actual, legal votes. The rest was due to Acorn registering cartoon characters and dead people and then having them vote numerous times. The Soros-controlled liberal media will never report it though, they just call the election for the Kenyan usurper and expect us to believe it, and most of you sheeple just buy it. Not me! I know the truth! Save us, Fox News!!!!
 
2012-11-11 04:06:51 PM  

Ishkur: This is the second time in recent memory that Bill Kristol has advocated something counter-intuitive to the GOP's position, which is interesting because Bill Kristol is never right about anything.

Ever.

No, seriously. I have never seen a pundit, journalist, critic or political commentator that is more habitually wrong than him. Every prediction, every claim, every assertion he makes is always wrong.


Dick Morris? I think he does it on purpose, though.
 
2012-11-11 04:07:16 PM  

clkeagle: Loaded Six String: Depending on which Roosevelt, Ike's probably my favorite on the list.

From the Headline: last century

Unless 2012 - 1904


Teddy Roosevelt was only elected once as President. His first administration was McKinley's. In the 1912 election, he split the Republican vote with Taft, and Wilson was elected. So he wouldn't have qualified for this achievement anyway.
 
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