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(New York Magazine)   Is three times a charm? Could the new face of the GOP be yet another George Bush?   (nymag.com) divider line 159
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2012-11-11 02:57:40 PM

Aarontology: sweet farking Jesus no.


I'm okay with this. He's well connected and he might not be an asshole. His grandfather was a reasonable if slightly ineffective president. His uncle was an unreasonable and viciously divisive president. This chap is from a different generation and might be okay. Worth watching, it seems.

If, of course he turns into a nutbag ... different thing entirely. Happy to wait and see.
 
2012-11-11 03:02:03 PM
NOPE.
 
2012-11-11 03:09:28 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Here's a list of Democratic governors. The ones I've seen mentioned as potential candidates are Cuomo, Hickenlooper, Patrick and Gregoire. Any others? Anyone from the Senate besides Warren?


I'd like to see Franken run, but I don't think that's a realistic possibility.
 
2012-11-11 03:10:06 PM
I'm so glad we fought that war of independence against Britain. It would be horrible if noble families with hereditary political titles took root in America...

eddiesocket: Jeb will run in 2016, as will Rubio. Christie said something nice about Obama, so he's finished. Prescott will run some time down the line. My concern for 2016 is that there are no obvious Dem frontrunners. Biden is too old and nutty, and I don't think Hillary wants to do it. That leaves who?


I'm not convinced Christie or Huntsman won't get the Democratic nomination in 2016, the way things are going on the other side. I also think Rubio will jump off the crazy train long before it crashes into the wall... he may be toeing the party line for now, but his own intelligence should prevail.

I also haven't ruled out a complete split in the GOP. Rubio should take over the sane element, while the Tea Party can center around Bachmann and Santorum.

Jeb should just quietly retire. The world needs to forget about his family for a generation if he wants his son to hold a national office someday.
 
2012-11-11 03:10:09 PM
Eh, maybe.

That is, if the Teabagger/GOP can get their collective head out of their asses and actually do something worthwhile.

And by worthwhile, I mean not only parroting what the Democrats are willing to do, but going past it and, more importantly, ACTING on it. Not just doing the usual 'gotta-be-to-the-right-of-the-Dems' tripe, but leaving that whole bullshiat mentality behind... completely outclassing the Left on immigration reform. Minorities have been on the Left side of the aisle due to the passive racist sentiment the GOP has ran on since the Civil Rights Act.

I do not see that kind of change happening. Until such time as the Democrats cede the centrist ground, the GOP is stuck in the far-right range of things.
 
2012-11-11 03:11:20 PM
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2012-11-11 03:11:50 PM

weltallica: [www.users.on.net image 208x260]

VOTE BUSH 2000.

George Bush is a true example of a COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE. He will bring honor and decency back to the White House.

We agree that $1.25/gallon is a ludicrously high amount. George Bush is a former Oil Man with many close ties to arab oil interests. He'll be able to talk with the middle east and truly be the Inside Man to ease the stress on struggling motorists.

America is in no way the world's police, and has no business going abroad sacrificing young american lives telling other countries how they should be doing things. George Bush will put America first, and focus on true Homeland Security by dedicating his administration to a mighty MISSILE SHIELD.

We cannot have the proof... a smoking gun... to come in the form of a mushroom cloud. By building a Missile Shield, American families will be prototected from any and all harm from rogue nations. George Bush will combat the true dangers of the 21st century, all the while helping families grow at home.

By encouraging deregulation in the private healthcare and banking industry, free market forces will ensure competition drives prices down, making private healthcare and the American dream of home ownership affordable to all. It is unamerican to inject the Government in other people's business, and it is a core Republican belief that Government should be so small as to be able to drown it in your bathtub. Privacy, above all, is the God-given right of Americans.

Vote Compassionate Conservatism.
Vote fiscal responsibility.
Vote small Government.
Vote GOP.

Vote Bush 2000


Yup. That's more or less what I remember. Except for the missile shield? Ach, so long ago. Maybe.
 
2012-11-11 03:14:19 PM

clkeagle: I also think Rubio will jump off the crazy train long before it crashes into the wall... he may be toeing the party line for now, but his own intelligence should prevail.


He's a far right anti-gay social conservative. He's not just riding the train, he's shoveling wood into the furnace.
 
2012-11-11 03:14:43 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: FirstNationalBastard: Why don't they find someone with a less toxic name, like Herbert Hoover or James Buchanan?

I'm thinking "Bourbon", "Hohenzollern", or "Hapsburg".


Maybe the Bourbons aren't all so bad. Juan Carlos saved democracy in Spain, more or less by staring down a fascist coup d'etat and daring them to kill their king.
 
2012-11-11 03:17:48 PM
Pee?
 
2012-11-11 03:19:31 PM
Man, the Republicans really, REALLY want their own Kennedy family, don't they? An old-money tree with a few embarrassing branches and enough name recognition to ensure instant success in an election.

I don't really want to see George III run for election, if only because you couldn't have a more cynical move in American politics if you designed one - hey, Obama did unexpectedly well among Hispanics, so let's have one of George H.W.'s "little brown ones" run with instant name recognition.

But the difference between George H.W. and George W. was night and day. I get the feeling that even as President, the elder was a little disappointed in the kid. The elder was a responsible, flexible, middle-road Republican who actually did fight in his generation's war and whose public experience included being the head of the CIA, the ambassador to China, and Vice President. He knew that he was contributing to history, not the other way around.

I'm still in a "I wouldn't vote Republican if you put a gun to my nuts" mode, though. Just pointing out that the father wasn't the son, and the uncle probably isn't the nephew.
 
2012-11-11 03:23:40 PM

eddiesocket: DamnYankees: Let's face it - this is happening. We're gonna be dealing with these jerkfaces for another few generations at least.

Yep. The only way for Republicans to win again is with a Latino. And most would have an extremely difficult time getting through a teabagger primary. But Bush has the big money connections to make it happen.


I don't think even George P. is capable of it. By the Jeb's time as governor the Florida racists were already directing a whole shiat ton of racism towards Columba because of Jeb's immigration stance, and if George P. takes any immigration stance that isn't "wall off Mexico", he's going to get the full brunt of the GOP anti-immigrant sentiment even with the last name "Bush".
 
2012-11-11 03:31:48 PM

born_yesterday: I sure hope he does. I don't like having to learn stuff about candidates, like their record or stance on issues. I'd rather just be able to vote for someone based on their name. Kinda like a royal monarchy, but better, because I voted for it.


I'm all for fairness and equality, but in reality, one of the functions of society is to stop shiat from happening repeatedly when it doesn't need to. It's not fair, and society is an utter dickhead, but there ain't gonna be no Bushes getting elected for at least a generation.

Is that wrong? Yup. But this guy presumably has an IQ higher than room temperature, so if he's stupid enough to run, yes, I will have no problem laughing my ass off when society works.
 
2012-11-11 03:32:04 PM
While a Sophomore at Rice University, he broke into his ex-girlfriend's house at 4 a.m., by breaking her bedroom window and crawling thru it into her bedroom. He was confronted by and argued with her father and then left the house. He returned a short while later driving his car, and proceeded to drive back and forth across their front lawn destroying wide swathes of lawn, and the sprinkler system. He escaped arrest and trial, because the girl and her father declined to prosecute.

Youthful indiscretion......nothing to see here folks. Just another hot-headed bully intimidating a woman who had the good sense to leave him.
 
2012-11-11 03:33:01 PM
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2012-11-11 03:34:04 PM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: FirstNationalBastard: Why don't they find someone with a less toxic name, like Herbert Hoover or James Buchanan?

I'm thinking "Bourbon", "Hohenzollern", or "Hapsburg".

Maybe the Bourbons aren't all so bad. Juan Carlos saved democracy in Spain, more or less by staring down a fascist coup d'etat and daring them to kill their king.


Oh, and who can forget that same Juan Carlos telling the Strutting Jackass of Caracas to STFU.
 
2012-11-11 03:35:15 PM
Well, you already know who is going to run against him.
/hollywood out of ideas

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2012-11-11 03:38:51 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: I'm positive they will try this.

"Oh, you liberals like Mexicans, we've got a Mexican, if you don't like him you're a racist."


To be fair, it DOES work on stupid people, and they make a sizable section of the electorate.

The question is, would pro-latino racists vote GOP at a rate greater than or equal to the number of anti-"messican" racists the GOP would lose from having a brown candidate.

I think the answer is "no", but I can't be certain.
 
2012-11-11 03:39:44 PM
Good luck with that.
 
2012-11-11 03:41:30 PM
In other news, Joe Biden has already said (though rather obliquely) that he's running in 2016. If he follows through... well. Remember the beating Paul Ryan took?
 
2012-11-11 03:42:41 PM
Isn't Franklin Pierce in the Bush bloodline too?
 
2012-11-11 03:46:09 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Here's a list of Democratic governors. The ones I've seen mentioned as potential candidates are Cuomo, Hickenlooper, Patrick and Gregoire. Any others? Anyone from the Senate besides Warren?


I've heard O'Malley's name come up a few times.
 
2012-11-11 03:47:38 PM

Cpl.D: In other news, Joe Biden has already said (though rather obliquely) that he's running in 2016. If he follows through... well. Remember the beating Paul Ryan took?


I would support him running with his son, just so their campaign would be JOE BIDEN/BO BIDEN and their slogan could be "BANANA FANA FO FIDEN."
 
2012-11-11 03:49:40 PM

cochlear: While a Sophomore at Rice University, he broke into his ex-girlfriend's house at 4 a.m., by breaking her bedroom window and crawling thru it into her bedroom. He was confronted by and argued with her father and then left the house. He returned a short while later driving his car, and proceeded to drive back and forth across their front lawn destroying wide swathes of lawn, and the sprinkler system. He escaped arrest and trial, because the girl and her father declined to prosecute.

Youthful indiscretion......nothing to see here folks. Just another hot-headed bully intimidating a woman who had the good sense to leave him.


Irony: This *was* a youthful indiscretion and be inclined to believe tales of redemption if he weren't the child of royalty and clearly only escaped conviction by virtue of that.
 
2012-11-11 04:11:15 PM
Why isn't Joe Lieberman on the list?
 
2012-11-11 04:13:46 PM
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2012-11-11 04:16:52 PM

mahuika: Cpl.D: In other news, Joe Biden has already said (though rather obliquely) that he's running in 2016. If he follows through... well. Remember the beating Paul Ryan took?

I would support him running with his son, just so their campaign would be JOE BIDEN/BO BIDEN and their slogan could be "BANANA FANA FO FIDEN."


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2012-11-11 04:19:44 PM
How is he about rape rape?
 
2012-11-11 04:41:47 PM
I think the GOP is going to go full derp in 2016. While not Angle, O'Donnell or Murdock, someone of their ilk.

I don't think they are capable of honest introspection and will blame the loss on Romney not being conservative enough.
 
2012-11-11 04:45:37 PM
FTA: "George P.'s future in Texas is unlimited," Republican Texas mega-donor James Huffines told Hagan. "He's the right age, he connects well with people, he has good political instincts, and he bucked the Establishment and got onboard with Ted Cruz."

Would you buy a President from a donor like Unpainted Huffines?
 
2012-11-11 05:05:10 PM

mscleo: I think the GOP is going to go full derp in 2016. While not Angle, O'Donnell or Murdock, someone of their ilk.

I don't think they are capable of honest introspection and will blame the loss on Romney not being conservative enough.


Wait - the 2012 cycle wasn't full derp? Ieshua H Kristos, how much more derp is there? Biz owners threatening mass layoffs if 'the wrong candidate wins'; churches politicking from the pulpit against the muslin trrist, definitions of rape that make it a gift from the almostmighty. WTF is left?
 
2012-11-11 05:12:35 PM

dionysusaur: mscleo: I think the GOP is going to go full derp in 2016. While not Angle, O'Donnell or Murdock, someone of their ilk.

I don't think they are capable of honest introspection and will blame the loss on Romney not being conservative enough.

Wait - the 2012 cycle wasn't full derp? Ieshua H Kristos, how much more derp is there? Biz owners threatening mass layoffs if 'the wrong candidate wins'; churches politicking from the pulpit against the muslin trrist, definitions of rape that make it a gift from the almostmighty. WTF is left?


Bless their hearts, I don't think they got the message yet.

While the primaries were full derp, they nominated the most reasonable of the bunch (other than Huntsman who gave up early).

And I'm reading all sorts of blame being laid at Romney's and Christie's feet. As well as crap about not being conservative enough.
 
2012-11-11 05:59:47 PM
You have to be fairly deluded to think that the Bush name has any remaining political capital.
 
2012-11-11 06:19:49 PM
Doesn't matter if he were the nicest and most honest guy on Earth, there's no way anyone named "George Bush" is going to be elected president for at least a century or two. It would be like voting for someone named "Richard Nixon." Or "Heinrich Himmler."
 
2012-11-11 06:20:12 PM

Nrokreffefp: You have to be fairly deluded to think that the Bush name has any remaining political capital.


I guess Jeb put his foot down and said no. That's why the increasingly-desperate Republicans are now farming the family's younger and stupider members to see which one wants to be mocked for four years.
 
2012-11-11 06:45:59 PM
I would take him over the other two blockheads we had last election.
 
2012-11-11 07:02:21 PM
I really would sooner vote for Richard Nixon than this dumbfark.
 
2012-11-11 07:04:57 PM

Flying Lasagna Monster: [www.nndb.com image 230x200] 

Isn't his sister a crack whore or something?


The new head of the DEA,
 
2012-11-11 07:14:45 PM

MFAWG: Bill Frist: MFAWG: Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.

Despite the GOP claim that hispanics are "traditional conservatives", they actually agree with the Democratic party more on most issues (social issues, role of government, etc.) not just immigration.

Not by the 30 pct margin that went to Obama this time. They tended to be evenly split until the 2006 midterms. Even in 2004 they voted for Bush at about the same margin the population as a whole did.


I am a white female married to a Hispanic man. I'm sure there are some Hispanic Republicans but I have never met one. Out of all the friends and family members that I know who are Hispanic not one votes Republican. I think you underestimate how liberal Hispanics are. They tend to care about the poor, the sick and the neglected of society far too much to vote Republican. Oh sure, I see the rare Republican on CNN or Fox but I think they truly are more rare than you think. Several Hispanics and Asians we know who are not citizens and cannot vote asked us who we voted for. When we said Obama they all showed not only approval but relief. I have a tenant from France, another from Africa and one from China. All said they would vote for Obama if they were citizens. That's just what I see from real life and those around me. The Republican party has alienated not only the majority of Americans but the majority of the world.
 
2012-11-11 07:15:14 PM

DamnYankees: Let's face it - this is happening. We're gonna be dealing with these jerkfaces for another few generations at least.


Let's hope some hot Bush daughter nudity is all the amount of "dealing" we're going to be doing.
 
2012-11-11 07:17:41 PM

kukukupo: I would take him over the other two blockheads we had last election.


Yeah, this country really needs an old-money trust fund kid with questionable ethics and a very shady personal history in the big chair.

Wait, didn't we just reject that very thing on Tuesday?
 
2012-11-11 07:18:39 PM

Gosling: Isn't Franklin Pierce in the Bush bloodline too?


The Bush clan ties back to a lot of powerful old families from New England whom most of the Presidents, with the exclusion of Lincoln and Kennedy and a few others, can also tie back to in one way or the other. Even Obummer (through his mom, obviously) can tie back to them.
 
2012-11-11 07:19:27 PM
His chances are very limited, because he won't be able to run without the public being reminded of what a clusterfark it was the last time someone named George Bush was in charge.

Hell, the GOP has been trying to pretend he didn't exist for more than 4 years now.
 
2012-11-11 07:41:42 PM
There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - [pauses] - shame on you. Fool me - [pauses] - You can't get fooled again.
 
2012-11-11 08:20:01 PM

Nrokreffefp: You have to be fairly deluded to think that the Bush name has any remaining political capital.


Lacking capital, I believe they'd be continuing to operate on political margin, as it were.
 
2012-11-11 08:32:58 PM

LordJiro: So they named their kid after a traitorous Nazi sympathizer? Seems like a good idea.


They've ducked that one for so long, I don't know how they've gotten away with it. Someone needs to bring that up. Old Man Prescott is so evil, he makes Joe Kennedy look like a freaking saint. Prescott Bush was one of the brain trust that tried to get FDR assassinated and replaced with a fascist leader because they liked Hitler's ideas so much and that is not a rumor or a conspiracy theory. It just got buried in the chaos of WWII.

I'd love to see that book hit the stands about the time George PRESCOTT Bush made his run at the White House.
 
2012-11-11 09:01:24 PM
Well he did just get elected to a 4th term.
 
2012-11-11 09:18:05 PM

Gyrfalcon: Prescott Bush was one of the brain trust that tried to get FDR assassinated and replaced with a fascist leader because they liked Hitler's ideas so much and that is not a rumor or a conspiracy theory.


It is, however, still only supported by hearsay testimony.
 
2012-11-11 09:26:44 PM

jso2897: We will always be afflicted by Bushes and Kennedys. And douchebags.
Lots and lots of douchebags.


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We had legacy families before in office we truly don't need anymore
 
2012-11-11 10:34:13 PM
No more bush!
 
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