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(New York Magazine)   Is three times a charm? Could the new face of the GOP be yet another George Bush?   (nymag.com) divider line 159
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2012-11-11 01:36:00 PM

RoxtarRyan: MFAWG: George W Bush did very well among Hispanics in 2000, and only slightly less well in 2004.

Only because of his love of tacos. That game plan didn't work so well for the mayor of East Haven, CT.


Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.
 
2012-11-11 01:40:41 PM
One day, probably in our lifetime, both candidates at the top of the ticket will be Latinos. I only hope Pat Buchanan is still around to see it.
 
2012-11-11 01:41:30 PM
Hell YES! Do it, Republicans! Don't listen to these namby pamby liberal naysayers... you have 3/4 track record of winning presidencies with guys name George Bush... if this was baseball, that'd be an incredible average. Roll with it... don't elect a weaker more "moderate" candidate to placate the liberals... vote from your gut.
 
2012-11-11 01:43:27 PM
They really never learn their farking lesson, do they?
 
2012-11-11 01:45:14 PM

MFAWG: Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.


Despite the GOP claim that hispanics are "traditional conservatives", they actually agree with the Democratic party more on most issues (social issues, role of government, etc.) not just immigration.
 
2012-11-11 01:48:17 PM
Depends. Is he a raging, backward ass, regressive shiathead Luke the current republican party? If so, then fark off.
 
2012-11-11 01:48:23 PM
W's nephew, to be known henceforth as "P."
 
2012-11-11 01:48:42 PM
How will they get past the "He who shalt not be named part" they've been adhering to over the past 4 years. Will they just use generic republican campaign literature and posters?

And wasn't it Jeb's (the smart one) turn?
 
2012-11-11 01:48:54 PM
Gosh, let's see. The previous two Bush presidents left office with the US economy in shambles. A third one would just put the last nail in the coffin. Hasn't the Bush family done enough to destroy the US? Haven't their supporters done enough to destroy the US as well?
 
2012-11-11 01:50:27 PM
Because 2001-2008 was so awesome. Why, we'll have "That 00's Show" and everyone will will be so nostalgic about those wonderful years.
 
2012-11-11 01:50:44 PM
I personally promise the GOP front runner in 2016 will make Bush and Romney look like reasonable canidates.
 
2012-11-11 01:51:03 PM
I figured George Bush was so bad that no one from his family would ever run for President ever again.

Hell, Bush was so bad, the GOP not only didn't invite him to their convention, but NO ONE from his Administration was there. And he was barely mentioned by the Romney campaign, as if there was a black hole of eight years that the Republicans conveniently forgot and all Romney could admit was "whatever happened back then, it wasn't me."

George Bush was so bad, he made it difficult not just for the GOP to run for President, but for white men to run for President. And with the sad state the party is in right now, its conceivable that the Republicans might not win a Presidential election for the next generation.... to the extent that the Republicans might have to dissolve as an entity altogether.

That is the legacy of George Bush.... who sold the country down the river for some favors and kickbacks, and has nothing to show for it.
 
2012-11-11 01:51:49 PM
Anything to keep the girls a-waxin', I favor.

(no more 'bush', y'know?)
 
2012-11-11 01:52:51 PM
So, Romney ran on "I'm not Bush" and McCain ran on "I'm not Bush". Maybe this one will be a winner because he can't say that. Well, I guess he could in Spanish and most of the teabag brigade wouldn't know what the fark he was saying anyway.
 
2012-11-11 01:53:00 PM

MFAWG: RoxtarRyan: MFAWG: George W Bush did very well among Hispanics in 2000, and only slightly less well in 2004.

Only because of his love of tacos. That game plan didn't work so well for the mayor of East Haven, CT.

Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.


Depends.... who declares their love of Tex-Mex and salsa?
 
2012-11-11 01:55:00 PM
So they named their kid after a traitorous Nazi sympathizer? Seems like a good idea.
 
2012-11-11 01:58:55 PM
Only 5 days since the election before we get our first "Who's going to take the GOP Nom in 2016?" story? Gotta be some kind of record!

Awww who am I kidding, they were publishing those stories as soon as Romney conceded Ohio.
 
2012-11-11 01:59:25 PM

Kumana Wanalaia: DO IT


Absolutely! He may have the potential some day to be the best president to hold office, who knows? But running in 2016 would make it glaringly obvious outside the bubble he was chosen for his bloodlines and appearance. GPB is a real estate investor with no public office experience to date. Demonstrating an expectation of what his role would be in office and - as did selecting a soccer mom from Alaska - a cynicism in the Right's core that elevates marketing over qualifications.
 
2012-11-11 02:00:40 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: W's nephew, to be known henceforth as "P."


Hell no. If he runs, I hereby decree we call him Prescott.
 
2012-11-11 02:01:50 PM

Bill Frist: MFAWG: Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.

Despite the GOP claim that hispanics are "traditional conservatives", they actually agree with the Democratic party more on most issues (social issues, role of government, etc.) not just immigration.


Not by the 30 pct margin that went to Obama this time. They tended to be evenly split until the 2006 midterms. Even in 2004 they voted for Bush at about the same margin the population as a whole did.
 
2012-11-11 02:01:55 PM

hammettman: Will they just use generic republican campaign literature and posters?


Didn't seem to work this year.
 
2012-11-11 02:02:32 PM

If George P. Bush disagrees with the GOP line on immigration, he won't be nominated. If he doesn't, he'll lose the Hispanic vote. If he flip-flops after his nomination, well...

www.busywomensfitness.com 
 
2012-11-11 02:02:46 PM
Do it. You stupid, stupid motherf*ckers.

Just f*cking do it.

But only if you promise to DIAF after the entire Bush dynasty is scorched beyond all recognition.



/you stupid, stupid motherf*ckers
 
2012-11-11 02:03:42 PM

MFAWG: RoxtarRyan: MFAWG: George W Bush did very well among Hispanics in 2000, and only slightly less well in 2004.

Only because of his love of tacos. That game plan didn't work so well for the mayor of East Haven, CT.

Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.


I choose to assume this, and you can't stop me.

/Not planning on running for office or managing a campaign.
/The GOP and its followers could successfully court the Hispanic vote, just like they could pool their money and buy enough rockets to found a new conservative paradise on the right half of the moon. I'd say the odds of either of these things happening is roughly equal.
 
2012-11-11 02:05:02 PM

Bill Frist: MFAWG: Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.

Despite the GOP claim that hispanics are "traditional conservatives", they actually agree with the Democratic party more on most issues (social issues, role of government, etc.) not just immigration.


This. The Republicans don't seem introspective enough to realize they lost the Latino vote because their policies are hostile to Latinos. Their thinking is more like, "Hey, we nominated a white man and won the white male vote, if we nominate a Latino we're sure to win the Hispanic vote."
 
2012-11-11 02:05:13 PM

neenerist: Kumana Wanalaia: DO IT

Absolutely! He may have the potential some day to be the best president to hold office, who knows? But running in 2016 would make it glaringly obvious outside the bubble he was chosen for his bloodlines and appearance. GPB is a real estate investor with no public office experience to date. Demonstrating an expectation of what his role would be in office and - as did selecting a soccer mom from Alaska - a cynicism in the Right's core that elevates marketing over qualifications.


Jeb will run in 2016, as will Rubio. Christie said something nice about Obama, so he's finished. Prescott will run some time down the line. My concern for 2016 is that there are no obvious Dem frontrunners. Biden is too old and nutty, and I don't think Hillary wants to do it. That leaves who?
 
2012-11-11 02:06:44 PM

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You know those jokes like "Astrophysicists do it in black holes"? I heard a good one the other day that your picture reminded me of.

Rednecks do it, then rise again.
 
2012-11-11 02:07:23 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Bill Frist: MFAWG: Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.

Despite the GOP claim that hispanics are "traditional conservatives", they actually agree with the Democratic party more on most issues (social issues, role of government, etc.) not just immigration.

This. The Republicans don't seem introspective enough to realize they lost the Latino vote because their policies are hostile to Latinos. Their thinking is more like, "Hey, we nominated a white man and won the white male vote, if we nominate a Latino we're sure to win the Hispanic vote."


Yes. But it would be foolish to assume that they are 70 pct block vote that can be counted on automatically.
 
2012-11-11 02:09:38 PM

MFAWG: Bill Frist: MFAWG: Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.

Despite the GOP claim that hispanics are "traditional conservatives", they actually agree with the Democratic party more on most issues (social issues, role of government, etc.) not just immigration.

Not by the 30 pct margin that went to Obama this time. They tended to be evenly split until the 2006 midterms. Even in 2004 they voted for Bush at about the same margin the population as a whole did.


I agree that the GOP can get some of them back, but keep in mind that the younger generations of hispanics (just like younger generations of every race) are leaning more and more liberal, especially on social issues.

But the GOP is deluding themselves if they think merely playing catch-up on immigration will make hispanics as a whole flock to them. The hispanic vote agrees with the Ds more than the Rs on most issues.
 
2012-11-11 02:12:21 PM
I'm not against some bush automatically, but this one has P in it.
 
2012-11-11 02:14:07 PM
I wholeheartedly support this. I believe the GOP should fall in behind this fine young man and his proud, patriotic family.

Sincerely,

A Democrat
 
2012-11-11 02:14:29 PM

eddiesocket: My concern for 2016 is that there are no obvious Dem frontrunners. Biden is too old and nutty, and I don't think Hillary wants to do it. That leaves who?


I think it is really hard to predict that far into the future. I mean, would anyone have predicted Obama in 2004? (What's his equivalent, Castro?).

I bet if you go back and look at predictions four years in advance they mostly turn out wrong, especially for the Democratic side (the GOP has had more of a tradition of line of succession). That said, in 4 years who knows... Castro? O'Malley? Clinton? Warren? Patrick? Warner?

The only prediction I'd make is there will be at least one woman on the ticket.
 
2012-11-11 02:22:12 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Why don't they find someone with a less toxic name, like Herbert Hoover or James Buchanan Caligula or Genghis Khan?


More like it.
 
2012-11-11 02:22:41 PM
"Well, we ran a Hispanic but the Dems ran one too and we lost. Then we tried a woman but the Dems ran a Hispanic woman and we lost. Then we tried a gay Hispanic woman but they ran a gay, black albino woman wih a disability and we lost. Now we're running a gay, black, Hispanic transsexual,disabled woman with a lisp. Who are trhe Democrats running?"

"Some white guy."
 
2012-11-11 02:23:06 PM

Bill Frist: The only prediction I'd make is there will be at least one woman on the ticket.


I have a suspicious feeling that, due to the success of Obama, the next several campaigns are going to have "novelty" candidates all vying for those sweet, fresh, burgeoning new/ethnic/youth votes.... like Palin, but qualified. So we're going to see the first woman, gay, jew, latino, chinese, native indian, east indian and pothead President within the next 50 years. And maybe if there's time, the first openly atheist President.

Basically, every demographic minority will get a crack at the big prize so everyone can feel special and validated. Or something like that.
 
2012-11-11 02:23:08 PM
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Right wing douche bags; Please make up your minds. Either NO BUSH has ever been conservative and they all suck or they're the greatest people ever. Make up your damn minds.
 
2012-11-11 02:23:11 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Why don't they find someone with a less toxic name, like Herbert Hoover or James Buchanan?


Maybe if he changes his name to Jorge Arbusto.
 
2012-11-11 02:25:41 PM

Ishkur: Bill Frist: The only prediction I'd make is there will be at least one woman on the ticket.

I have a suspicious feeling that, due to the success of Obama, the next several campaigns are going to have "novelty" candidates all vying for those sweet, fresh, burgeoning new/ethnic/youth votes.... like Palin, but qualified. So we're going to see the first woman, gay, jew, latino, chinese, native indian, east indian and pothead President within the next 50 years. And maybe if there's time, the first openly atheist President.

Basically, every demographic minority will get a crack at the big prize so everyone can feel special and validated. Or something like that.


This isn't as new as you are pretending. Parties have often looked to run candidates or VPs that are supposed to seal up some region or growing voter bloc.

Although I'm not sure I can take someone seriously who thinks running a woman (50% of the country) counts as a "novelty"
 
2012-11-11 02:28:55 PM
www.users.on.net

VOTE BUSH 2000.

George Bush is a true example of a COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE. He will bring honor and decency back to the White House.

We agree that $1.25/gallon is a ludicrously high amount. George Bush is a former Oil Man with many close ties to arab oil interests. He'll be able to talk with the middle east and truly be the Inside Man to ease the stress on struggling motorists.

America is in no way the world's police, and has no business going abroad sacrificing young american lives telling other countries how they should be doing things. George Bush will put America first, and focus on true Homeland Security by dedicating his administration to a mighty MISSILE SHIELD.

We cannot have the proof... a smoking gun... to come in the form of a mushroom cloud. By building a Missile Shield, American families will be prototected from any and all harm from rogue nations. George Bush will combat the true dangers of the 21st century, all the while helping families grow at home.

By encouraging deregulation in the private healthcare and banking industry, free market forces will ensure competition drives prices down, making private healthcare and the American dream of home ownership affordable to all. It is unamerican to inject the Government in other people's business, and it is a core Republican belief that Government should be so small as to be able to drown it in your bathtub. Privacy, above all, is the God-given right of Americans.

Vote Compassionate Conservatism.
Vote fiscal responsibility.
Vote small Government.
Vote GOP.

Vote Bush 2000
 
2012-11-11 02:30:00 PM
"Already, George P. Bush's prospects look bright. He's the co-founder of Hispanic Republicans of Texas and, as Joe Hagan learned while reporting on Jeb Bush for New York Magazine's Election Issue, also deputy finance chair of the state's GOP machine and an early backer of Texas Senator Elect Ted Cruz."


Now there's a deep résumé for you.


eddiesocket: Christie said something nice about Obama, so he's finished.



Not necessarily forever -- it all depends on the timing of the coming Silly Party implosion. Along with Huntsman, he could wind up being one of the few 'sane ones' to rise above the wreckage when that day comes. Working with Obama wasn't just the right thing to do, it could prove to be a very wise strategic move. Time will tell.
 
2012-11-11 02:32:05 PM
THIS is why we can't have nice things. A recognizable name and a Hispanic wife do not make a person presidential material. This is cynicism at it's worst.
 
2012-11-11 02:32:28 PM

eddiesocket: That leaves who?


They better start sorting it out now. Under Bubba I couldn't stomach Hillary but no one can realistically argue she hasn't paid the dues. Her qualification make GPB a school boy in comparison. Too bad she dispelled any notion of running.
 
2012-11-11 02:35:26 PM

MFAWG: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Bill Frist: MFAWG: Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.

Despite the GOP claim that hispanics are "traditional conservatives", they actually agree with the Democratic party more on most issues (social issues, role of government, etc.) not just immigration.

This. The Republicans don't seem introspective enough to realize they lost the Latino vote because their policies are hostile to Latinos. Their thinking is more like, "Hey, we nominated a white man and won the white male vote, if we nominate a Latino we're sure to win the Hispanic vote."

Yes. But it would be foolish to assume that they are 70 pct block vote that can be counted on automatically.


In the last four national elections, Latinos have voted over 60% Democratic. With no indication that Republicans are going to moderate their positions on immigration and civil rights, I don't see them regaining the Latino vote any time soon.
 
2012-11-11 02:38:57 PM
Wouldn't it be great if Hillary stomped a mud-hole in his ass? OMG the lulz and butthurt would be epic!
 
2012-11-11 02:41:11 PM
Remember, Republicans hate big government but they love the idea of a family dynasty.
 
2012-11-11 02:44:19 PM
They just concocted the perfect Right-Wing nut, haven't they?

/We must blend the traits of the Bush Family
//The Palins
///And a 2% of each Tea Party member
 
2012-11-11 02:48:48 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: MFAWG: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Bill Frist: MFAWG: Actually, no. In 2000 immigration was not a front burner issue yet. Don't assume the hispanic vote is now going Democratic for a generation.

Despite the GOP claim that hispanics are "traditional conservatives", they actually agree with the Democratic party more on most issues (social issues, role of government, etc.) not just immigration.

This. The Republicans don't seem introspective enough to realize they lost the Latino vote because their policies are hostile to Latinos. Their thinking is more like, "Hey, we nominated a white man and won the white male vote, if we nominate a Latino we're sure to win the Hispanic vote."

Yes. But it would be foolish to assume that they are 70 pct block vote that can be counted on automatically.

In the last four national elections, Latinos have voted over 60% Democratic. With no indication that Republicans are going to moderate their positions on immigration and civil rights, I don't see them regaining the Latino vote any time soon.


45 pct voted for Bush in 2004. It flipped the election. The GOP doesn't need the whole Hispanic vote, it just needs enough Hispanic votes.
 
2012-11-11 02:48:48 PM

Bill Frist: eddiesocket: My concern for 2016 is that there are no obvious Dem frontrunners. Biden is too old and nutty, and I don't think Hillary wants to do it. That leaves who?

I think it is really hard to predict that far into the future. I mean, would anyone have predicted Obama in 2004? (What's his equivalent, Castro?).

I bet if you go back and look at predictions four years in advance they mostly turn out wrong, especially for the Democratic side (the GOP has had more of a tradition of line of succession). That said, in 4 years who knows... Castro? O'Malley? Clinton? Warren? Patrick? Warner?

The only prediction I'd make is there will be at least one woman on the ticket.


Here's a list of Democratic governors. The ones I've seen mentioned as potential candidates are Cuomo, Hickenlooper, Patrick and Gregoire. Any others? Anyone from the Senate besides Warren?

Jerry Brown (California)
Andrew Cuomo (New York)
Bev Perdue (North Carolina)
Brian Schweitzer (Montana)
Christine Gregoire (Washington)
Dan Malloy (Connecticut)
Earl Ray Tomblin (West Virginia)
John Lynch (New Hampshire)
Pat Quinn (Illinois)
John Hickenlooper (Colorado)
Jack Markell (Delaware)
Jay Nixon (Missouri)
John Kitzhaber (Oregon)
Mark Dayton (Minnesota)
Martin O'Malley (Maryland)
Mike Beebe (Arkansas)
Neil Abercrombie (Hawaii)
Deval Patrick (Massachusetts)
Peter Shumlin (Vermont)
Steve Beshear (Kentucky)
 
2012-11-11 02:52:34 PM
www.nndb.com 

Isn't his sister a crack whore or something?
 
2012-11-11 02:53:49 PM

skygod: Wouldn't it be great if Hillary stomped a mud-hole in his ass? OMG the lulz and butthurt would be epic!


Whoever won a P. Bush vs H. Clinton election one thing would be for sure, every one of us would be the losers.

/Credulity and idiocy faces off against unchecked ambition and sociopathic cynicism
 
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