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2012-11-11 09:37:59 AM
I liked quantum of solace.
 
2012-11-11 09:47:12 AM
Lincoln is Oscar-bait. I doesn't matter how well it does in the theaters right now.
 
2012-11-11 11:11:01 AM

Ok, a Skyfall thread. Good.

Is this a Skyfall thread? Can we talk about it?


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I liked it, but didn't love it. Maybe my expectations were too high. I didn't it had the thematic or emotional core which would have made it really great. It felt, to me, like a watered down version of The Dark Knight, honestly. It sort of had the same beats.

Opening action scene hinting at the bad guy
Bad guy interested in terroristic anarchy makes his entrance with a startling walk-in.
Bad guy is bat shiat crazy but easily the most compelling thing in the movie due to brilliant acting.
Bad guy gets captured intentionally just for the purpose of breaking out.
Hero loses all hope before getting it back.
Bad guy kills person extremely close to our hero.
The idea of order and loyalty versus chaos drives everything.
 
2012-11-11 11:24:10 AM
Skyfall was damn good.
 
2012-11-11 11:48:27 AM

SilentStrider: Skyfall was damn DAMN good.


FTFM
 
2012-11-11 12:07:29 PM

There was one thing that really pushed Skyfall over the edge for me.




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For the villain, it was personal. He was after revenge, not taking over the world or making a lot of money. I don't know if thats been done in a Bond film before, but if it has, its never been done so effectively.
 
2012-11-11 12:09:54 PM

SilentStrider: For the villain, it was personal. He was after revenge, not taking over the world or making a lot of money. I don't know if thats been done in a Bond film before, but if it has, its never been done so effectively.


While this is all true, lets be honest - 90% of the awesome was pure Bardem.
 
2012-11-11 12:14:23 PM

DamnYankees: SilentStrider: For the villain, it was personal. He was after revenge, not taking over the world or making a lot of money. I don't know if thats been done in a Bond film before, but if it has, its never been done so effectively.

While this is all true, lets be honest - 90% of the awesome was pure Bardem.


Silva/Bardem goes in my top 3 best Bond villains.
 
2012-11-11 12:36:36 PM

DamnYankees: SilentStrider: For the villain, it was personal. He was after revenge, not taking over the world or making a lot of money. I don't know if thats been done in a Bond film before, but if it has, its never been done so effectively.

While this is all true, lets be honest - 90% of the awesome was pure Bardem.


Well yeah. It was a great concept that would have been executed poorly. In this case it was executed brilliantly.
 
2012-11-11 12:37:12 PM
Would=could
 
2012-11-11 12:53:48 PM

SilentStrider: Skyfall was damn good.


Hear, hear. No surprise that it's killing the competition. "Casino Royale" finally has a worthy successor.
 
2012-11-11 12:57:24 PM
Saw it last night. God damn that was great. I need to see it a few more times to see if I like it more than Casino Royale.

I avoided all spoilers, so all I knew was that Bardem was in the movie. That was not how I expected him to play the part, but that was great. it's probably easy to ham it up when playing unstable, but his character just had... depth.
 
2012-11-11 01:02:24 PM

SilentStrider: There was one thing that really pushed Skyfall over the edge for me.

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For the villain, it was personal. He was after revenge, not taking over the world or making a lot of money. I don't know if thats been done in a Bond film before, but if it has, its never been done so effectively.


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I'd be pissed off too if my employer left me high and dry, then tortured for 6 months with half of my teeth melted off...
 
2012-11-11 01:06:43 PM

SilentStrider: There was one thing that really pushed Skyfall over the edge for me.

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For the villain, it was personal. He was after revenge, not taking over the world or making a lot of money. I don't know if thats been done in a Bond film before, but if it has, its never been done so effectively.


The revenge was usually from Bond's side - Diamonds Are Forever and License to Kill are two I can think of.

Hopefully this same cast will be appearing for the foreseeable future. They're all relatively young and played their parts perfectly. I have to look again, but what was the history of the new M? Was he an admiral? Also Judi Dench was excellent as M. When I first saw her on the screen (in an IMAX theater) I noticed how old she was getting and she played this part for almost 20 years.
 
2012-11-11 01:07:28 PM

DamnYankees: Ok, a Skyfall thread. Good.

Is this a Skyfall thread? Can we talk about it?


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I liked it, but didn't love it. Maybe my expectations were too high. I didn't it had the thematic or emotional core which would have made it really great. It felt, to me, like a watered down version of The Dark Knight, honestly. It sort of had the same beats.

Opening action scene hinting at the bad guy
Bad guy interested in terroristic anarchy makes his entrance with a startling walk-in.
Bad guy is bat shiat crazy but easily the most compelling thing in the movie due to brilliant acting.
Bad guy gets captured intentionally just for the purpose of breaking out.
Hero loses all hope before getting it back.
Bad guy kills person extremely close to our hero.
The idea of order and loyalty versus chaos drives everything.


Sounds like The Lion King.
 
2012-11-11 01:14:43 PM
liked it a lot. easily the best offering since Goldeneye
 
2012-11-11 01:18:07 PM
I loved the hell out of Skyfall. Easily enters my top 10 list - if not the top 5 list - of Bond films.

The real unsung heroes of the film are director of photography Roger Deakins (who was responsible for some amazing cinematography for the Coen Brothers, including True Grit, No Country for Old Men, and The Man Who Wasn't There) and editors Stuart and Kate Baird. Unlike Quantum of Solace, this film was actually watchable and visually appealing.

It's amazing how your film can look when you don't edit it on methamphetamine.
 
2012-11-11 01:25:18 PM

enry: I have to look again, but what was the history of the new M? Was he an admiral?


They did make some passing mention of his military service, yeah.


SilentStrider: For the villain, it was personal. He was after revenge, not taking over the world or making a lot of money. I don't know if thats been done in a Bond film before, but if it has, its never been done so effectively.


DamnYankees: While this is all true, lets be honest - 90% of the awesome was pure Bardem.


John Buck 41: Silva/Bardem goes in my top 3 best Bond villains.


Agreed. Bardem owned this thing through and through.

I'd hate to see him get typecast playing villains (especially if you've seen his other work in Before Night Falls, The Sea Inside, and Biutiful), but let's be honest: Bardem is damn good at playing the bad guy.


Orgasmatron138: I avoided all spoilers, so all I knew was that Bardem was in the movie. That was not how I expected him to play the part, but that was great. it's probably easy to ham it up when playing unstable, but his character just had... depth.


What really rocked was his introduction. That long, uninterrupted take of his entrance was great. The camera didn't cut away, it just kept focused on Bardem walking towards the camera, kind of like a force of nature getting ready to make its presence felt.


DamnYankees: version of The Dark Knight


I felt a lot of those similarities.

Where I really felt it was in the scene where M was reading the Tennyson poem as Bond and Silva were getting ready to converge on the hearing. The pacing and editing of that scene SCREAMED Nolan.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
 
2012-11-11 01:29:13 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: enry: I have to look again, but what was the history of the new M? Was he an admiral?

They did make some passing mention of his military service, yeah.


SilentStrider: For the villain, it was personal. He was after revenge, not taking over the world or making a lot of money. I don't know if thats been done in a Bond film before, but if it has, its never been done so effectively.

DamnYankees: While this is all true, lets be honest - 90% of the awesome was pure Bardem.

John Buck 41: Silva/Bardem goes in my top 3 best Bond villains.

Agreed. Bardem owned this thing through and through.

I'd hate to see him get typecast playing villains (especially if you've seen his other work in Before Night Falls, The Sea Inside, and Biutiful), but let's be honest: Bardem is damn good at playing the bad guy.


Orgasmatron138: I avoided all spoilers, so all I knew was that Bardem was in the movie. That was not how I expected him to play the part, but that was great. it's probably easy to ham it up when playing unstable, but his character just had... depth.

What really rocked was his introduction. That long, uninterrupted take of his entrance was great. The camera didn't cut away, it just kept focused on Bardem walking towards the camera, kind of like a force of nature getting ready to make its presence felt.


DamnYankees: version of The Dark Knight

I felt a lot of those similarities.

Where I really felt it was in the scene where M was reading the Tennyson poem as Bond and Silva were getting ready to converge on the hearing. The pacing and editing of that scene SCREAMED Nolan.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you.


This was one of the best visual action movies I've ever seen. The silhouetted fight scene after the assassination was just beautiful.
 
2012-11-11 01:33:57 PM
One of the best things about the film? NO SHAKYCAM NONSENSE.

Using a Shakycam does not automatically raise tension or heighten the action. It just makes the whole visual style irritating.

Thank merciful crepes that it did not look a thing like Quantum of Solace.


Orgasmatron138: This was one of the best visual action movies I've ever seen. The silhouetted fight scene after the assassination was just beautiful.


That was niftily different, aye. That whole Shanghai sequence was just pure eye candy, especially with the purple hues along the highways.
 
2012-11-11 01:40:53 PM

DamnYankees: Ok, a Skyfall thread. Good.

Is this a Skyfall thread? Can we talk about it?


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SPOILERS
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I liked it, but didn't love it. Maybe my expectations were too high. I didn't it had the thematic or emotional core which would have made it really great. It felt, to me, like a watered down version of The Dark Knight, honestly. It sort of had the same beats.

Opening action scene hinting at the bad guy
Huh? The bad guy wasn't in the opening action scene. M said to leave the guy, and to take the shot, which is different from trading the bad guy to the Chinese for some other agents.

Hero loses all hope before getting it back.
Bond never lost hope. After he was shot, he was just chilling in retirement until MI6 was blown up. After that, he was all business.
Bad guy kills person extremely close to our hero.
Nope. M was killed by someone who shot her during the gun battle at Skyfall. It wasn't clear who fired the shot. The woman who the bad guy shot was not exactly extremely close to Bond, he just slept with her once.
The idea of order and loyalty versus chaos drives everything.
Nope. the bad guy was into making money, not chaos. Chaos was a tactic.

 
2012-11-11 01:42:22 PM

DamnYankees: Ok, a Skyfall thread. Good.

Is this a Skyfall thread? Can we talk about it?


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SPOILERS
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I liked it, but didn't love it. Maybe my expectations were too high. I didn't it had the thematic or emotional core which would have made it really great. It felt, to me, like a watered down version of The Dark Knight, honestly. It sort of had the same beats.

Opening action scene hinting at the bad guy
Bad guy interested in terroristic anarchy makes his entrance with a startling walk-in.
Bad guy is bat shiat crazy but easily the most compelling thing in the movie due to brilliant acting.
Bad guy gets captured intentionally just for the purpose of breaking out.
Hero loses all hope before getting it back.
Bad guy kills person extremely close to our hero.
The idea of order and loyalty versus chaos drives everything.


ADDITIONAL SPOILER

The whole 2nd half of the movie is because new-Q sucks at IT
 
2012-11-11 01:47:09 PM
Placeholder Bond films are dildoes
 
2012-11-11 01:53:55 PM

Ika7734: ... Q sucks at IT


I saw the film with my infosec team. And we just wanted to reach into the screen and beat the new Q with a massive clue-stick.

/outside of that massive FAIL - I rather like the new Q
 
2012-11-11 01:54:04 PM
laughable plot and characters, but visually well done.

it's the new and improved James Bourne.

I had my doubts if the new Q was going to be smart, nerdy, and supposedly good with computers, but then I saw that he had glasses... so I knew that my doubts were in vain.

the opening title sequence was visually awesome, the song by Adele, no thanks, turn the volume down and just watch the visuals.

they handled M well, gave her a lot of well-deserved screen presence and insight into her character.

it was hard to take Bardem seriously when all I kept thinking of was Stuart Smalley.

it was as good of an action movie as Prometheus was a sci-fi movie.

once you allow for the complete inconsistencies and amateurish actions of the characters, you can just sit back and enjoy it and give your brain a rest.

/shiny things = box office $$$$
 
2012-11-11 01:57:15 PM

gingerjet: /outside of that massive FAIL - I rather like the new Q


It should be interesting to see if he'll get to play the part anywhere near as long as Q v.1.
 
2012-11-11 02:05:39 PM

calbert: laughable plot and characters, but visually well done.

it's the new and improved James Bourne.

I had my doubts if the new Q was going to be smart, nerdy, and supposedly good with computers, but then I saw that he had glasses... so I knew that my doubts were in vain.

the opening title sequence was visually awesome, the song by Adele, no thanks, turn the volume down and just watch the visuals.

they handled M well, gave her a lot of well-deserved screen presence and insight into her character.

it was hard to take Bardem seriously when all I kept thinking of was Stuart Smalley.

it was as good of an action movie as Prometheus was a sci-fi movie.

once you allow for the complete inconsistencies and amateurish actions of the characters, you can just sit back and enjoy it and give your brain a rest.

/shiny things = box office $$$$


6/10....you'll definitely get some bites.
 
2012-11-11 02:09:34 PM
I really enjoyed Skyfall. It was a very personal, intimate story, which ended up working very well within the Bond universe. I also have to say, while I thought I would dislike the more "realistic" approach they've taken with the Daniel Craig Bond films, I'm actually enjoying the more realistic stunts, fights, and gadgetry. Turns out that taking out the camp makes the Bond films quite a bit better.
 
2012-11-11 02:11:01 PM

Mangoose: I liked quantum of solace.

 
2012-11-11 02:13:01 PM

Teufelaffe: Turns out that taking out the camp makes the Bond films quite a bit better.


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You're saying that making Bond a clown *doesn't* make for a better experience?


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"SHOCKING. Positively shocking."
 
2012-11-11 02:16:41 PM

Teufelaffe: I really enjoyed Skyfall. It was a very personal, intimate story, which ended up working very well within the Bond universe. I also have to say, while I thought I would dislike the more "realistic" approach they've taken with the Daniel Craig Bond films, I'm actually enjoying the more realistic stunts, fights, and gadgetry. Turns out that taking out the camp makes the Bond films quite a bit better.


Although I did turn to my wife during the movie when Q tells Bond the gadgets aren't part of the program any more, and told her "but I liked the exploding pens!".

Btw, wouldn't Bond normally carry a knife with him everywhere he goes? You know, just in case he needs to kill someone and his PPK is out of ammo and there's no handy items around to use?
 
2012-11-11 02:18:07 PM

Bendal: Although I did turn to my wife during the movie when Q tells Bond the gadgets aren't part of the program any more, and told her "but I liked the exploding pens!".


That part with the exploding pen line got a big laugh from my theater... and a sold out crowd it was, too.
 
2012-11-11 02:23:34 PM

Mangoose: I liked quantum of solace.


Really? What aspects, in particular, endeared you to it?
 
2012-11-11 02:30:47 PM
Spoiler........................

Why did the movie turn into Home Alone at the end?

/I thought the climax was silly
//the denouement was good though, Ralph Fiennes will do well in his new role
 
2012-11-11 02:32:37 PM

Apos: Really? What aspects, in particular, endeared you to it?


I didn't like the film, but I'm willing to admit that there *are* parts of it that I dug.

-Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter and Giancarlo Giannini as Mathis
-the interrogation scene with Mr. White was good enough, particularly with the shocking moment of THAT reveal
-the opera scene was well executed and had its high points ("I guess Tosca isn't for EVERYONE..."
-Gemma Arterton made for a nifty Bond girl, even though Olga Kurylenko had all the charisma of a Nebraskan postcard
-I'm generous, so I'll give it the aerial battle scene
-however clumsily the motorcycle chase scene was edited, Bond flipping the guy's motorcycle was a solid move
-Mr. Greene's final fate was deliciously nasty for such a contemptible Bond villain


The film had a lot of flaws, but it still had its moments. The same could be said of the worst Bond films (see also: Die Another Day).
 
2012-11-11 02:32:55 PM
My only problem with the entire movie was that when mp shot bond she didn't just keep shooting and ensure the bad guy was dead. Wtf. Otherwise it was an awesome movie that I will watch a hundred or so times.

Also has anyone made a real list of all the references yet? I only got 9.
 
2012-11-11 02:36:26 PM
The new moneypenny is hot
 
2012-11-11 02:36:50 PM
I really don't understand the love for this movie, aside from Bardem.
 
2012-11-11 02:37:06 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Apos: Really? What aspects, in particular, endeared you to it?

I didn't like the film, but I'm willing to admit that there *are* parts of it that I dug.

-Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter and Giancarlo Giannini as Mathis
-the interrogation scene with Mr. White was good enough, particularly with the shocking moment of THAT reveal
-the opera scene was well executed and had its high points ("I guess Tosca isn't for EVERYONE..."
-Gemma Arterton made for a nifty Bond girl, even though Olga Kurylenko had all the charisma of a Nebraskan postcard
-I'm generous, so I'll give it the aerial battle scene
-however clumsily the motorcycle chase scene was edited, Bond flipping the guy's motorcycle was a solid move
-Mr. Greene's final fate was deliciously nasty for such a contemptible Bond villain


The film had a lot of flaws, but it still had its moments. The same could be said of the worst Bond films (see also: Die Another Day).


Fair enough.
 
2012-11-11 02:37:22 PM

colimar: The new moneypenny is hot


Noami Harries is indeed stunning.
 
2012-11-11 02:38:29 PM

thecpt: My only problem with the entire movie was that when mp shot bond she didn't just keep shooting and ensure the bad guy was dead. Wtf. Otherwise it was an awesome movie that I will watch a hundred or so times.


Fair enough.

My only real problem at the end is with the logistics of the water scene. I was thinking, "Wait... shouldn't he be really cold and/or undergoing hypothermia?" It's a Bond movie, so I'm willingly to cut it a lot of slack.


thecpt: Also has anyone made a real list of all the references yet? I only got 9.


I didn't make a list, but I caught more than a few references along the way. That was nifty for all the Bond aficionados.
 
2012-11-11 02:38:45 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Bendal: Although I did turn to my wife during the movie when Q tells Bond the gadgets aren't part of the program any more, and told her "but I liked the exploding pens!".

That part with the exploding pen line got a big laugh from my theater... and a sold out crowd it was, too.


Sold out crowd and only me and one other guy laughed. The rest of the crowd must of not been bond fans though because that guy and I were laughing at all the other "inside" jokes
 
2012-11-11 02:40:01 PM

DamnYankees: colimar: The new moneypenny is hot

Noami Harries is indeed stunning.


Maybe she is a reference to Jones from the XIII albums, anyway, loved it
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2012-11-11 02:40:24 PM

Apos: Fair enough.


Don't get me wrong, it's one of my least favorite Bond films, but even a lousy Bond film has its share of fun.


DamnYankees: colimar: The new moneypenny is hot

Noami Harries is indeed stunning.


I dug her in 28 Days Later, I dug her in the Pirates movies, and I dug her in Miami Vice (probably the only positive I have to say for that movie).

It was great to see her in Skyfall, and I hope she stays with the franchise for quite a while.
 
2012-11-11 02:42:45 PM
Also also, Albert Finney wins everything EVER.


thecpt: Sold out crowd and only me and one other guy laughed. The rest of the crowd must of not been bond fans though because that guy and I were laughing at all the other "inside" jokes


I dig, I follow.

The lifelong Bond fans practically cheered at the appearance of the Aston-Martin.
 
2012-11-11 02:44:18 PM
Did anyone else notice how many Archer similarities there were? Fight on a train, the dog on the desk, a black female agent etc? I felt like I was watching FX at one point.
 
2012-11-11 02:44:18 PM
No love for Berenice Marlohe yet? Let's fix that:

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cdn.mos.totalfilm.com
 
2012-11-11 02:45:06 PM

thecpt: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Bendal: Although I did turn to my wife during the movie when Q tells Bond the gadgets aren't part of the program any more, and told her "but I liked the exploding pens!".

That part with the exploding pen line got a big laugh from my theater... and a sold out crowd it was, too.

Sold out crowd and only me and one other guy laughed. The rest of the crowd must of not been bond fans though because that guy and I were laughing at all the other "inside" jokes


Not too much reaction from the crowd at the pen comment, but when Bond brought out the car everyone gave out an "ooooh" noise of appreciation. At that point I leaned over to my wife and mentioned the little passenger seat option this model had, and shortly after that in the movie they referred to it.

/thought that car was destroyed in Goldfinger, though
 
2012-11-11 02:49:08 PM

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Did anyone else notice how many Archer similarities there were? Fight on a train, the dog on the desk, a black female agent etc? I felt like I was watching FX at one point.


Shacking up with nameless women in a literal shack?

Heh, there were definitely some eerie Archer parallels here.


Apos: Berenice Marlohe


She practically lit up the Macau nightclub scene singlehandedly.


Bendal: Not too much reaction from the crowd at the pen comment, but when Bond brought out the car everyone gave out an "ooooh" noise of appreciation.


Precisely that!


Bendal: /thought that car was destroyed in Goldfinger, though


The repair bill's gotta be a BIATCH.
 
2012-11-11 02:50:25 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Apos: Fair enough.

Don't get me wrong, it's one of my least favorite Bond films, but even a lousy Bond film has its share of fun.


Agreed, although The Living Daylights and Never Say Never Again SEVERELY tested that belief for me.
 
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