LordJiro: And when the ruling classes get too cocky, and let their distaste for the "poors" dictate their policy, it never ends well.
way south: LordJiro: And when the ruling classes get too cocky, and let their distaste for the "poors" dictate their policy, it never ends well.It does if you make sure to disarm the poors and then provide enough bread and circuses to keep them distracted.You could keep them under foot for centuries, even.
Feral_and_Preposterous: Funny, considering the poor employed people are the ones the rich mooch of. The rich and the unemployed poor all mooch off the working class. Fark the rich moochers with the poor moochers' dicks.
ronaprhys: Feral_and_Preposterous: Funny, considering the poor employed people are the ones the rich mooch of. The rich and the unemployed poor all mooch off the working class. Fark the rich moochers with the poor moochers' dicks.That'd be true if the rich didn't provide them with all of the tools, factories, and materials for them to use in their work. Then, they buy their goods.Yet the poor still complain until they get handouts. Maybe that's why the rich look down upon them.
ghare: You walk around saying to treat the poor as humans, and that they deserve to live with some dignity, you're gonna get your hippy ass nailed to a tree.
ghare: Yes, you're going to be rich one day, sweetie.
ph0rk: If only the rich could figure out a way to cut out those greedy moochers entirely.
Gentoolive: Don't use logic on fark, it will get you nowhere.
historynow11: I think Mel Brooks discussed this in the "documentary," History of the World Part I.
Amos Quito: historynow11: I think Mel Brooks discussed this in the "documentary," History of the World Part I."The peasants are revolting!"
Pribar: Too many are, I am sick of hearing what you "deserve', for the most part you get exactly what you deserve. At my last job we had a Guatemalan who started as a janitorial assistant, couldn't read write, or for that matter speak english, he busted ass during the day and took night classes and the next thing I knew he owned a janitorial services company that serviced 5 major buildings downtown, he was the one that finally got my ass moving on setting up my own business, I told him how I envied his success and he basically told me that if I wanted to work for myself then I needed to get off my lazy ass, stop making excuses and just do it, I did and now I can afford to close the shop for a week and go volunteer to help out with Sandy without worrying about cash.contrast that with a secretary we had, se was paid well, was very intelligent, but had no self control at all, she ran up so much debt grabbing junk she didn't really need that she ended up declaring bankruptcy twice in the 15 years we worked there. Once she came to me with a sob story about how her car had broken down and it was going to cost so much to fix that she couldn't afford groceries that week, I felt sorry for her and gave her 100 bucks and a ride home, on the way she asked to stop at the store, she came out with some cheap bread, lunch meat, milk and two cartons of cigarettes (for her and her husband, a four day supply she said) I wanted to strangle her, I smoke (pipe and cigars) but when I first opened my shop I went without until it became profitable (about 3 months) I could have probably afforded to buy some earlier, but until I was sure my savings would outlast the new shop cash outlay imbalance I held off so I knew I wouldn't need that money./ya I know csb, wehatever
ghare: they deserve to live with some dignity
badhatharry: The poor in Rome had it much worse than the poor in America.
AbsentFriends: And people have been envious of anyone who has more than them since, forever.
WhippingBoy: The problem I have is that I believe that in most cases (at least in so-called first world countries), your station in life is directly proportional to the choices you make of your own free will.Case in point: I get up at 5AM most mornings so I can put in a 12 hour work day (for my employer, as well as on side projects to augment my income). I have clearly established financial goals, and a reasonable financial plan. I spend modestly (although I do have a weakness for electronic gadgets), and strive to limit expenses whenever practical (for example, my wife and I share a single car). I make many short term sacrifices in order to realize long term gains.Contrast that to my brother in law: His attitude is that his work should "understand that he's going through some stuff", so it's unreasonable for them to expect that he show up on time (or, in some cases, at all); he's gone through 5 jobs in 4 years, and is currently unemployed. When he does have money, his philosophy is to spend it as fast as possible. He spends it on the following (in order of priority): cigarettes for him and his wife, pot for him and his wife, alcohol, food for his family, video games, rent, and if there's anything left over (usually not much), he might put some down on his outstanding bills.Although I try to not let it bother me, I do feel a mild sense of outrage whenever they describe us as "lucky".
ronaprhys: Feral_and_Preposterous: Funny, considering the poor employed people are the ones the rich mooch of. The rich and the unemployed poor all mooch off the working class. Fark the rich moochers with the poor moochers' dicks.That'd be true if the rich national, state and local government revenue and tax breaks plus foreign and regional outsourcing didn't provide them with all of the tools, factories, and materials for them to use in their work. Then, they buy their goods.Yet the poor still complain until they get handouts. Maybe that's why the rich look down upon them.
ThreeEdgedSword: I love it when rich people forget that they're not the one's actually working anymore and think that they're money magically appears in the bank account. I don't know how it happens, but, it seems like many rich folk think that the people that are actually collecting/making the money for them don't deserve to be paid. In their eyes, these employees are merely parasites on their bottom line that are preventing them from being even richer.Money has the ability to turn anyone into a sociopath.
GORDON: From now on I am voting for every liberal ballot initiative available to me. The sooner the country burns, the sooner we can start over with a sane government.
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