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(Kansas City)   Tea Party economics in the state of Kansas have resulted in massive deficits, draining of the rainy day fund, and set up massive cuts to education and social services. The Tea Party solution: tax cuts   (kansascity.com) divider line 257
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2012-11-11 10:04:12 AM

wingnut396: I'm surprised I could think of many ways to solve the Kansas budget crisis....


I nearly bought the Poe (thx for the 'learnun VCRs') because selling CAPEX to offset OPEX is exactly the financial reasoning expected of Teabags. They're campaigning on a Year Zero platform.
 
2012-11-11 10:05:57 AM

wingnut396: They left off one thing that Kansas can still do to close the budget gap. Sell off State owned assets. There is quite a bit they can do:

1. Sell the prisons to for profit companies. The inmates can pay for the operation of the prison by working at whatever jobs their corporate owners can make money with them doing. This strikes me as a way to also solve the migrant labor problem as low risk prisoners can be used to pick crops at harvest. I would imagine that arrests for short time offenses would go up right before harvest time.

2. Sell the roads and bridges, tolls everywhere. You can drive like 90MPH in Texas now on that freedom loving toll road.

3. Sell the State offices and buildings. Right now there are too many State employees as it is. There is no need to all that office space. Sell it off, especially after you fire most of the State workers, and lease back smaller offices from the corporations that now own the property.

4. Sell of the State parks and recreation areas to private recreation and resort companies. People that can't afford to pay an entrance fee to a nice lake or park should be working more anyway.

5. Sell off the schools, use whatever Federal dollars come in for education to pay for a voucher. The free market and churches will provide stuff like classroom VCRs for learnin' your young ones.


I'm surprised I could think of many ways to solve the Kansas budget crisis and this article only thinks that a useless rainy day fund is the only way they are going to do it.


The speed limit on the Kansas Turnpike is 75. Even private roads can't go up to 90.
 
2012-11-11 10:09:36 AM

sdd2000: They can also cut back on fire services and police and go the Colorado Springs route.


FTA: " In order to keep these bandits off the streets and out of people's homes, the National Guard has been brought in to police the wreckage."

They aren't out en masse protesting this flagrant socialist entitlement?
 
2012-11-11 10:10:57 AM
Now that NC has veto proof majorities of Republicans in both houses, and a Republican Governor as well, I expect that same kind of nonsense coming out of our legislature starting next year. McCrory is talking about how the government is "broken" and he's bringing a businessman's viewpoint to the state, but so far he's not provided any particulars on what he will do.

Nothing on that list from Kansas though would surprise me if they came up with it. Our Republicans aren't any smarter than theirs, unfortunately.
 
2012-11-11 10:11:07 AM

Serious Black:

The speed limit on the Kansas Turnpike is 75. Even private roads can't go up to 90.


See, that is another thing the private companies can buy from the State. The right to ignore laws that others have to follow. Think of how awesome that would be for closing the State budget gap.
 
2012-11-11 10:12:00 AM
wasn't there some talk about cutting state taxes on all incomes above $200,000 to zero? or did i dream it? in any case - i can't tell anymore between satire and reality. the right wing is just that farking crazy.
 
2012-11-11 10:12:55 AM

sdd2000:
Link

This is the new faith based budgeting system. (We have faith that them damn socalizt will bail us out)


See, you get it wrong. Its not that the policy makers have faith that the free marker will provide. Its faith that they will be able to blame any negative impacts on the liebruls and it will work.
 
2012-11-11 10:18:21 AM

Sgt Otter: spelletrader: The cuts in education ensure that the people remain uneducated enough to vote for the teabagging idiots.

Looks like Kansas is the next Mississippi.

I used to be stationed at Fort Riley, Kansas with the 1st Infantry Division. The shiathole town next door would have dried up and died without the money coming in from the base, but every local had a chip on their shoulder about how they all pulled themselves up without any government help.


First - Happy Veteran's Day, thank you for your service.

I was at McConnell twice TDY and once to stay at the BEQ while passing through on a cross country road trip. Not nearly as much time as being stationed there, yet I saw this same attitude - even by some of the contractors whose entire livelihood came from Uncle Sam's tit.
 
2012-11-11 10:20:25 AM

Noam Chimpsky: jso2897: Noam Chimpsky: The fallacy is the assertion by the commie editorialist that the state of Kansas has a responsibility to pay for all these commie dreams of his. Kansas needs to purge it's remaining liberals and it will be a utopia.

Yeah. That's probably not how this is going to shake out.

You want Kansans to be taxed to finance the parasitic existence of those who can't or won't finance their own existence. Cutting taxes effectively chokes off and purges these parasites and improves the quality of the state. Obama gets revenge against conservatives at the federal level and conservatives need to get revenge against the parasite left where they can, and that is at the state level in these liberal states.


You're no Pocket Ninja, but keep trying.
 
2012-11-11 10:22:14 AM

Bendal: Now that NC has veto proof majorities of Republicans in both houses, and a Republican Governor as well, I expect that same kind of nonsense coming out of our legislature starting next year. McCrory is talking about how the government is "broken" and he's bringing a businessman's viewpoint to the state, but so far he's not provided any particulars on what he will do.

Nothing on that list from Kansas though would surprise me if they came up with it. Our Republicans aren't any smarter than theirs, unfortunately.


1) Abortion Restrictions 2) Abortion Restrictions 3) Cut taxes on wealthy 4) Abortion Restrictions 5) Raise fees 6) Abortion Restrictions Cut services in poor neighborhoods 7) Abortion Restrictions
 
2012-11-11 10:23:56 AM

Bendal: McCrory is talking about how the government is "broken" and he's bringing a businessman's viewpoint to the state


MO dodged that bullet this election.

Luckily he was very incompetent in running a campaign as well as the fact that the incumbent is well like here due to his moderate views.

What I would like to know is when in the history of politics has business success = success in politics? The only businessman I can think of is Berlesconi, and we all know what kind of job he did with Italy.
 
2012-11-11 10:24:59 AM
Red state Kansas receives $1.12 cents in Federal spending for every dollar it pays in Federal taxes. New Jersey, a solid blue state, comes in dead last, receiving only 61 cents in Federal spending for every dollar paid in.

GIVE ME BACK MY FARKING MONEY, YOU RED STATE WELFARE WHORES!
 
2012-11-11 10:27:18 AM
Hey, I live in Kansas and it's not that bad! Next year is going to be the best 1913 we ever had.
 
2012-11-11 10:36:08 AM

swahnhennessy: Serious Black: Move to Lawrence. We're trying to fight against the state becoming Brownbackistan.

Not doing so hot of a job at it. Couldn't even keep the 3rd District Democrat.


Since all of Lawrence is in the 2nd now, with Emporia and Coffeyville (and over half of Lawrence has been for a decade), it would be pretty amazing if it could keep the 3rd Democratic.
 
2012-11-11 10:36:26 AM

cirby: It's funny - there's an article whining about the "budget shortfall." There's a bunch of you Farkers whining about those awful Tea Party people who messed with the inviolable Kansas tax scheme.

Oddly, there's not much mention of the $13.4 billion dollar budget. Which could be cut by a mere five percent to save that $707 million. It's a shame the Kansas state budget is so well-designed that they can't manage to cut five percent off of it within a year or so.

Oh, wait...


What a farking moron might look like. Seriously, idiots like this are why Kansas is in the mess it's in to begin with.

You get the government you deserve. Reap it.
 
2012-11-11 10:37:56 AM

wildcatben: I don't even want to talk about this...

We have to suffer through major embarrassments like our Board of Education and Brownback...
I have to sit helplessly as the Koch bros. primary the hell out of any moderate republican candidate...
Then watch them roll to victory based on the (R) next to their name...

My beloved state is becoming the Tea Party dream - a place where a lack of basic services, government-licensed privatization of public property and regressive social polices make for a "job creator" paradise of low taxes and regulations...

You know what's funny - conservatives like to blame liberalism (or more generally a secular society) for a decline in "traditional values" but their policies hurt small cities and towns (bastions of more conservative ideas) by cutting public education and blocking access to quality healthcare.

The result is a under-educated, under-employable population that will, in my opinion, be much more likely to experience high-divorce rates, teen pregnancy and drug use. 

/I know, I talked about it anyway...


What is like to ask these guys is this: what does a conservative utopia *look* like? Draw me a picture.

It has to be a concrete thing. It can't be an abstract ideal. What does Main Street look like? Then I would start to ask "How did that road get built?" And want another concrete answer.
 
2012-11-11 10:39:34 AM

theteacher: wildcatben: I don't even want to talk about this...

We have to suffer through major embarrassments like our Board of Education and Brownback...
I have to sit helplessly as the Koch bros. primary the hell out of any moderate republican candidate...
Then watch them roll to victory based on the (R) next to their name...

My beloved state is becoming the Tea Party dream - a place where a lack of basic services, government-licensed privatization of public property and regressive social polices make for a "job creator" paradise of low taxes and regulations...

You know what's funny - conservatives like to blame liberalism (or more generally a secular society) for a decline in "traditional values" but their policies hurt small cities and towns (bastions of more conservative ideas) by cutting public education and blocking access to quality healthcare.

The result is a under-educated, under-employable population that will, in my opinion, be much more likely to experience high-divorce rates, teen pregnancy and drug use. 

/I know, I talked about it anyway...

What is like to ask these guys is this: what does a conservative utopia *look* like? Draw me a picture.

It has to be a concrete thing. It can't be an abstract ideal. What does Main Street look like? Then I would start to ask "How did that road get built?" And want another concrete answer.


==================

You want concrete? His skull is made out of it.
 
2012-11-11 10:39:35 AM

cirby: It's funny - there's an article whining about the "budget shortfall." There's a bunch of you Farkers whining about those awful Tea Party people who messed with the inviolable Kansas tax scheme.

Oddly, there's not much mention of the $13.4 billion dollar budget. Which could be cut by a mere five percent to save that $707 million. It's a shame the Kansas state budget is so well-designed that they can't manage to cut five percent off of it within a year or so.

Oh, wait...


Yes, cutting taxes when you're in the red makes perfect sense.

If you flunked Math in grade school.
 
2012-11-11 10:41:22 AM

Mrtraveler01: If you flunked Math in grade school.


Winner winner chicken dinner!
 
2012-11-11 10:44:40 AM

Lawnchair: swahnhennessy: Serious Black: Move to Lawrence. We're trying to fight against the state becoming Brownbackistan.

Not doing so hot of a job at it. Couldn't even keep the 3rd District Democrat.

Since all of Lawrence is in the 2nd now, with Emporia and Coffeyville (and over half of Lawrence has been for a decade), it would be pretty amazing if it could keep the 3rd Democratic.


We were almost split into the 1st, the 2nd, and the 3rd in redistricting. Luckily, the legislature couldn't figure out a plan that would pass both houses and get the governor's signature, so the court stepped in and did a pretty good job of maintaining communities of interest.
 
2012-11-11 10:45:35 AM

wildcatben: I don't even want to talk about this...

We have to suffer through major embarrassments like our Board of Education and Brownback...
I have to sit helplessly as the Koch bros. primary the hell out of any moderate republican candidate...
Then watch them roll to victory based on the (R) next to their name...

My beloved state is becoming the Tea Party dream - a place where a lack of basic services, government-licensed privatization of public property and regressive social polices make for a "job creator" paradise of low taxes and regulations...

You know what's funny - conservatives like to blame liberalism (or more generally a secular society) for a decline in "traditional values" but their policies hurt small cities and towns (bastions of more conservative ideas) by cutting public education and blocking access to quality healthcare.

The result is a under-educated, under-employable population that will, in my opinion, be much more likely to experience high-divorce rates, teen pregnancy and drug use. 

/I know, I talked about it anyway...


And they can blame this decay squarely on those evil liberal values corrupting their paradise, which in reality is a neo-slave state. Sounds like the Koch brothers get exactly what they want here.
 
2012-11-11 10:47:35 AM

cabbyman: LarryDan43: wildcatben: I don't even want to talk about this...

We have to suffer through major embarrassments like our Board of Education and Brownback...
I have to sit helplessly as the Koch bros. primary the hell out of any moderate republican candidate...
Then watch them roll to victory based on the (R) next to their name...

My beloved state is becoming the Tea Party dream - a place where a lack of basic services, government-licensed privatization of public property and regressive social polices make for a "job creator" paradise of low taxes and regulations...

You know what's funny - conservatives like to blame liberalism (or more generally a secular society) for a decline in "traditional values" but their policies hurt small cities and towns (bastions of more conservative ideas) by cutting public education and blocking access to quality healthcare.

The result is a under-educated, under-employable population that will, in my opinion, be much more likely to experience high-divorce rates, teen pregnancy and drug use. 

/I know, I talked about it anyway...

Scott Walker is proudly following the Kansas model for Wisconsin.

Yeah Wisconsin would be so much better with Doyle's left over billion dollar holes! Because that way we would have freedom!


How is WI doing anyways?

Is it still in the toilet when it comes to job creation?
 
2012-11-11 10:48:35 AM
Monkeyhouse Zendo:
Oh they'll find someplace to cut that $707M. They'll find it in places like medicaid, education, child protective services, welfare, and university funding.

Oddly enough, it's always the Democrats who start screaming about cutting those things, instead of cutting, oh, "arts programs" (which somehow always seem to give money to fifth-rate failed artists who are friends with one or another local politician, to teach poor kids how to do really bad art) or "beautification projects" (which, by random chance, always seem to happen right in front of the homes of local or state politicians, and are awarded to relatives of same).

That happened in my own home town this year. Budget cuts? The Democrat politicians started right in with "we have to cut POLICE AND FIRE budgets," when most folks were saying "why not cut the $200 million plus you want to spend on the performing arts center that nobody really asked for?"

That said, you can cut huge amounts of waste out of pretty much any local or state budget without touching the meat of the things you list - yes, even Medicare and Medicaid. There is, basically, no real fraud investigation going on in Medicare - criminals have to pretty much jump up and down holding a sign that says "CROOK" just to get someone's attention.
 
2012-11-11 10:49:21 AM

Mrtraveler01: cirby: It's funny - there's an article whining about the "budget shortfall." There's a bunch of you Farkers whining about those awful Tea Party people who messed with the inviolable Kansas tax scheme.

Oddly, there's not much mention of the $13.4 billion dollar budget. Which could be cut by a mere five percent to save that $707 million. It's a shame the Kansas state budget is so well-designed that they can't manage to cut five percent off of it within a year or so.

Oh, wait...

Yes, cutting taxes when you're in the red makes perfect sense.

If you flunked Math in grade school.


Not cutting expenses when you're in the red makes perfect sense.

If you flunked math in grade school.
 
2012-11-11 10:50:13 AM

cirby: Oddly enough, it's always the Democrats who start screaming about cutting those things, instead of cutting, oh, "arts programs" (which somehow always seem to give money to fifth-rate failed artists who are friends with one or another local politician, to teach poor kids how to do really bad art) or "beautification projects" (which, by random chance, always seem to happen right in front of the homes of local or state politicians, and are awarded to relatives of same).


It's not our fault you live in a shiatty state with no controls on how public funds are spent to keep the most egregious examples of public graft to a minimum.
 
2012-11-11 10:50:41 AM

theteacher: wildcatben: I don't even want to talk about this...

We have to suffer through major embarrassments like our Board of Education and Brownback...
I have to sit helplessly as the Koch bros. primary the hell out of any moderate republican candidate...
Then watch them roll to victory based on the (R) next to their name...

My beloved state is becoming the Tea Party dream - a place where a lack of basic services, government-licensed privatization of public property and regressive social polices make for a "job creator" paradise of low taxes and regulations...

You know what's funny - conservatives like to blame liberalism (or more generally a secular society) for a decline in "traditional values" but their policies hurt small cities and towns (bastions of more conservative ideas) by cutting public education and blocking access to quality healthcare.

The result is a under-educated, under-employable population that will, in my opinion, be much more likely to experience high-divorce rates, teen pregnancy and drug use. 

/I know, I talked about it anyway...

What is like to ask these guys is this: what does a conservative utopia *look* like? Draw me a picture.

It has to be a concrete thing. It can't be an abstract ideal. What does Main Street look like? Then I would start to ask "How did that road get built?" And want another concrete answer.


The wealthy can drive on the paved roads because they earned the right to, it can be maintained by a small fee. IF you cannot pay that, it is your own fault for not loving Jesus enough that he'll bless you with money.
 
2012-11-11 10:51:23 AM

Noam Chimpsky: Mrtraveler01: cirby: It's funny - there's an article whining about the "budget shortfall." There's a bunch of you Farkers whining about those awful Tea Party people who messed with the inviolable Kansas tax scheme.

Oddly, there's not much mention of the $13.4 billion dollar budget. Which could be cut by a mere five percent to save that $707 million. It's a shame the Kansas state budget is so well-designed that they can't manage to cut five percent off of it within a year or so.

Oh, wait...

Yes, cutting taxes when you're in the red makes perfect sense.

If you flunked Math in grade school.

Not cutting expenses when you're in the red makes perfect sense.

If you flunked math in grade school.


I didn't say that they shouldn't cut expenses. It's just that when you're in the red, the last thing you want to do is cut your revenues.

But of course I shouldn't be surprised that folks like you can't do basic math.
 
kth
2012-11-11 10:51:52 AM

Notabunny: born_yesterday: In any case, let these people vote themselves into farking oblivion; ignorant, shiat-eating morans.

Hoarseman: I'm not saying your scenario is impossible, but it will require more maturity than the average voter has shown thus far.

Unfortunately, there's a reason the book is entitled What's The Matter With Kansas


It's been a while since I've read it, but does that book end with the result that eventually we swing too far to the right and the moderates vote dem? See, Sebilius, and the state board of education the election after the evolution debacle. And Phill (two L) Kline going too far and Morrison being elected. I am naively hopeful that soon they'll go too far and the wealthy Johnson county moderates and the east side of Wichita will say enough and align with the democrats.

jayhawk88: I work for one of the universities here in-state. It's going to be hilarious to hear my co-workers biatch about Obama when they start announcing the massive funding cuts. And believe me, they absolutely will.


Be nice when they do; my dad means well.

/assuming you work at the big one there.
//how someone who has a pHd in mathematics can buy trickle down is beyond me.
///and don't get me started on his admiration for Palin
 
2012-11-11 10:53:35 AM

theorellior: cirby: Oddly enough, it's always the Democrats who start screaming about cutting those things, instead of cutting, oh, "arts programs" (which somehow always seem to give money to fifth-rate failed artists who are friends with one or another local politician, to teach poor kids how to do really bad art) or "beautification projects" (which, by random chance, always seem to happen right in front of the homes of local or state politicians, and are awarded to relatives of same).

It's not our fault you live in a shiatty state with no controls on how public funds are spent to keep the most egregious examples of public graft to a minimum.


I just saw that he lives in Orlando.

The governor of that state was accused (and maybe indicted) of Medicare fraud.

Enough said.
 
2012-11-11 10:54:14 AM

Mrtraveler01: cirby: It's funny - there's an article whining about the "budget shortfall." There's a bunch of you Farkers whining about those awful Tea Party people who messed with the inviolable Kansas tax scheme.

Oddly, there's not much mention of the $13.4 billion dollar budget. Which could be cut by a mere five percent to save that $707 million. It's a shame the Kansas state budget is so well-designed that they can't manage to cut five percent off of it within a year or so.

Oh, wait...

Yes, cutting taxes when you're in the red makes perfect sense.

If you flunked Math in grade school.


He got an A+ in Conservative Math, but inexplicably his GPA went down. You can't explain that!
 
2012-11-11 10:55:08 AM

Mrtraveler01: How is WI doing anyways?

Is it still in the toilet when it comes to job creation?


Pretty terrible, and set to get worse now that the GOP took back the state senate in the election. The recalls bought us a summer of much-needed peace, neutering the GOP's plan to extend an extraordinary session and continue their rampage, but Walker will be back looking for blood now. We can fully expect to drop back to 49th-50th place in job creation under their guidance.

/thankfully I'm getting out
//WI can burn for all I care, at this point
 
2012-11-11 10:56:09 AM

nekom: vpb: You mean cutting your income doesn't help you pay bills? Sounds like socialisms!

Well, to be fair there is a case to be made for a counter-intuitive "lowering taxes increases revenue" argument. At least, to some degree. After all, with a 100% or 0% tax rate, your revenues would be quite low. I would think that finding that "sweet spot" for the highest revenue ought to be the goal, though finding that is probably near impossible.


Sounds like the Tea Party needs to play some Sim City and get back to us.
 
2012-11-11 10:57:03 AM

Mrtraveler01: Noam Chimpsky: Mrtraveler01: cirby: It's funny - there's an article whining about the "budget shortfall." There's a bunch of you Farkers whining about those awful Tea Party people who messed with the inviolable Kansas tax scheme.

Oddly, there's not much mention of the $13.4 billion dollar budget. Which could be cut by a mere five percent to save that $707 million. It's a shame the Kansas state budget is so well-designed that they can't manage to cut five percent off of it within a year or so.

Oh, wait...

Yes, cutting taxes when you're in the red makes perfect sense.

If you flunked Math in grade school.

Not cutting expenses when you're in the red makes perfect sense.

If you flunked math in grade school.

I didn't say that they shouldn't cut expenses. It's just that when you're in the red, the last thing you want to do is cut your revenues.

But of course I shouldn't be surprised that folks like you can't do basic math.


I know that when I'm having trouble paying all my bills, the first thing I do is quit my job or, at the very least, offer to take fewer hours or a lesser hourly wage.
 
2012-11-11 10:58:19 AM
Use the Romney plan. Let them go bankrupt then sell off the remaining assets to overseas investors. Problem solved.
 
kth
2012-11-11 10:58:28 AM
kth: east side of Wichita other than the Koch compound will say enough and align with the democrats. 

FTFM
 
2012-11-11 11:00:17 AM
These retards live in a different world.
 
2012-11-11 11:03:03 AM

Zapruder: Sounds like the Tea Party needs to play some Sim City and get back to us.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-11-11 11:03:15 AM

nekom: vpb: You mean cutting your income doesn't help you pay bills? Sounds like socialisms!

Well, to be fair there is a case to be made for a counter-intuitive "lowering taxes increases revenue" argument. At least, to some degree. After all, with a 100% or 0% tax rate, your revenues would be quite low. I would think that finding that "sweet spot" for the highest revenue ought to be the goal, though finding that is probably near impossible.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-11-11 11:04:50 AM

Noam Chimpsky: jso2897: Noam Chimpsky: The fallacy is the assertion by the commie editorialist that the state of Kansas has a responsibility to pay for all these commie dreams of his. Kansas needs to purge it's remaining liberals and it will be a utopia.

Yeah. That's probably not how this is going to shake out.

You want Kansans to be taxed to finance the parasitic existence of those who can't or won't finance their own existence. Cutting taxes effectively chokes off and purges these parasites and improves the quality of the state. Obama gets revenge against conservatives at the federal level and conservatives need to get revenge against the parasite left where they can, and that is at the state level in these liberal states.


A simple "I was wrong about everything and the american public left my failed ideology behind this election, I am sorry" is all you really needed to say.
 
2012-11-11 11:06:26 AM

Noam Chimpsky: You want Kansans to be taxed to finance the parasitic existence of those who can't or won't finance their own existence. Cutting taxes effectively chokes off and purges these parasites and improves the quality of the state. Obama gets revenge against conservatives at the federal level and conservatives need to get revenge against the parasite left where they can, and that is at the state level in these liberal states.


This reminds me too much of Hotel Rwanda.
 
2012-11-11 11:07:28 AM
Mrtraveler01:
Yes, cutting taxes when you're in the red makes perfect sense.

It does when you're trying to get people to start doing business in your state, and you cut the budget accordingly. As I noted above, they only need a five percent cut in spending to balance the budget. If you're too dumb to find five percent of a state budget to cut, you need to stay out of politics entirely.

Note, for a counterexample, California. They're in a deep fiscal (read: spending) hole, they just voted (again) to raise the hell out of taxes, and a lot of businesses just decided to either bail out of California entirely or cut back on any expansion plans.

theorellior:
It's not our fault you live in a shiatty state with no controls on how public funds are spent to keep the most egregious examples of public graft to a minimum.

You live in MASSACHUSETTS. Are you insane? They had a "rainy day fund" they were supposed to pay $100 million into this year - but instead took out $400 million, and still fell way short of balancing the budget - which increased by 3% this year.
 
2012-11-11 11:07:59 AM

kth: Be nice when they do; my dad means well.

/assuming you work at the big one there.
//how someone who has a pHd in mathematics can buy trickle down is beyond me.
///and don't get me started on his admiration for Palin


Oh no it's worse than that, I'm in Wichita not Lawrence. Sarah Palin shows up at a Dillon's here in Andover on a Tuesday morning and 5,000 people are camping out overnight for it
 
2012-11-11 11:08:26 AM

kth: //how someone who has a pHd in mathematics can buy trickle down is beyond me.
///and don't get me started on his admiration for Palin


Nearly two decades in advanced tech forums heavily frequented by well educated and accomplished contributors taught me authority and credentials usually trump reasoning in the short run, and if reasoning wins in the long run it was their idea all along. Education doesn't change human nature and a lifetime in rigid academia appears to reinforce certain negative aspects.
 
2012-11-11 11:10:59 AM

cirby: It does when you're trying to get people to start doing business in your state, and you cut the budget accordingly. As I noted above, they only need a five percent cut in spending to balance the budget. If you're too dumb to find five percent of a state budget to cut, you need to stay out of politics entirely.


It might bring more business to the state, but it won't be enough to make up for the shortfall as a result of the tax cut.

At best, you'll end up where you started and at worst, you'll be deeper in the red and have to cut spending even more than you probably needed to (which is the real intent of conservatives)/

People throw around tax cuts like it's a panacea to everything.

I've got to say this once and for all Tax cuts WILL NOT GET YOU OUT OF A DEFICIT!!!
 
2012-11-11 11:12:40 AM

cirby: You live in MASSACHUSETTS. Are you insane? They had a "rainy day fund" they were supposed to pay $100 million into this year - but instead took out $400 million, and still fell way short of balancing the budget - which increased by 3% this year.


There are many problems with Massachusetts, but public art funds misallocation isn't one of them. Please try to stay on topic. Besides, the reason the budget here is farked is directly related to the policies of Governor Romney, who "lowered" taxes while kicking the budgeting can down the road to a time when he wouldn't be in office. This is the exact reason why I take anything right-wing supply-side dumbfarks say about government financing with a good-size boulder of salt.
 
2012-11-11 11:14:40 AM

Barbaro's Broken Ankle: Everybody laughs at Kansas, but be aware that Brownback is just building up his conservative credentials in preparation for a run at President in 2016.


Heh...did he see how Rick Perry crashed and burned because of HIS policies?
 
2012-11-11 11:14:48 AM
The laffer curve is a stupid meaningless concept that should never be used in any real world situation. There's just too many other factors you need to take into account.
 
2012-11-11 11:15:03 AM

DarwiOdrade: He got an A+ in Conservative Math, but inexplicably his GPA went down. You can't explain that!


His grades were redistributed to prop up the failing Bureaucracy students.
 
2012-11-11 11:15:13 AM

Mrtraveler01: Noam Chimpsky: You want Kansans to be taxed to finance the parasitic existence of those who can't or won't finance their own existence. Cutting taxes effectively chokes off and purges these parasites and improves the quality of the state. Obama gets revenge against conservatives at the federal level and conservatives need to get revenge against the parasite left where they can, and that is at the state level in these liberal states.

This reminds me too much of Hotel Rwanda.


Yep.
In Rwanda, the Tutsis were stereotyped as inherent liars, thieves, and killers. Kangura also depicted the Tutsis as biologically distinct from the Hutus and as being consumed by malice and wickedness. Radio Télévision Libra Mille-Collines (RTLMC), the local media outlet, joined in the propaganda effort, accusing the Tutsis of being plotters and parasites, and using the Tutsis'
 
2012-11-11 11:15:38 AM

cirby: Monkeyhouse Zendo:
Oh they'll find someplace to cut that $707M. They'll find it in places like medicaid, education, child protective services, welfare, and university funding.

Oddly enough, it's always the Democrats who start screaming about cutting those things, instead of cutting, oh, "arts programs" (which somehow always seem to give money to fifth-rate failed artists who are friends with one or another local politician, to teach poor kids how to do really bad art) or "beautification projects" (which, by random chance, always seem to happen right in front of the homes of local or state politicians, and are awarded to relatives of same).

That happened in my own home town this year. Budget cuts? The Democrat politicians started right in with "we have to cut POLICE AND FIRE budgets," when most folks were saying "why not cut the $200 million plus you want to spend on the performing arts center that nobody really asked for?"

That said, you can cut huge amounts of waste out of pretty much any local or state budget without touching the meat of the things you list - yes, even Medicare and Medicaid. There is, basically, no real fraud investigation going on in Medicare - criminals have to pretty much jump up and down holding a sign that says "CROOK" just to get someone's attention.


Were you raped by a fact and now just can't stand to be around them any more?
 
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