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2012-11-10 09:45:15 PM
The Supreme Court blew a big hole in Obamacare. :( OTOH, I kind of doubt the administration would have withheld all Medicaid funds from recalcitrant States even if that provision hadn't been killed.

It's inconceivable that a State wouldn't spend a buck to get ten bucks worth of health care for its poorest citizens. Much of that money would be spent in the State, generating tax revenue and jobs. Yet here we are.
 
2012-11-10 10:22:22 PM

BarkingUnicorn: The Supreme Court blew a big hole in Obamacare. :( OTOH, I kind of doubt the administration would have withheld all Medicaid funds from recalcitrant States even if that provision hadn't been killed.

It's inconceivable that a State wouldn't spend a buck to get ten bucks worth of health care for its poorest citizens. Much of that money would be spent in the State, generating tax revenue and jobs. Yet here we are.


It could produce 100:1 returns, generate 10 jobs for every dollar they spend, and increase the average lifespan by 5 years. The perception is, you're giving money to black people. It's a little harder to get them to come out and say it in exactly those words - with some notable exceptions (I'd love to have been a fly on the wall at Rick Perry's N*ggerhead Ranch), you're not going to get past the assumption that the Emancipation Proclamation was a "taking" of private property for which the aggrieved class has never been justly compensated, and which is compounded by every anti-poverty program, which exists solely to keep the 53% from each living their personal version of Gone With the Wind, instead of making weekly payments on an SUV with 120k miles on it.
 
2012-11-10 10:32:29 PM

BarkingUnicorn: The Supreme Court blew a big hole in Obamacare. :( OTOH, I kind of doubt the administration would have withheld all Medicaid funds from recalcitrant States even if that provision hadn't been killed.

It's inconceivable that a State wouldn't spend a buck to get ten bucks worth of health care for its poorest citizens. Much of that money would be spent in the State, generating tax revenue and jobs. Yet here we are.


You and your silly logic.
 
2012-11-10 11:10:01 PM
Louisianian here, though I live in the only blue parish:

I'm actually offended that Jindal has put his 2016 conservative cred upon the backs of the working poor in my state. He claims we cannot afford it, yet I can point to any number of pet projects that are nowhere near as vital as protecting our citizens from disease and death, not to mention the ROI that has already been mentioned in this thread.

This should be a moral issue, and not something to be toyed with for political gain.

Bobby PIYUSH Jindal (see what I did there?) is a callous monster. The man would sooner let more Louisianians fall ill or die than to relinquish but one bit of his image. Hell, Romney instituted an early version of Obamacare and he still got 50% of the popular vote. All Jindal would do is accept the generous federal offer like nearly every other sane governor in the country. It's not like he's the architect of the whole scheme.

I love New Orleans, but I'm really tired of Southern politics. You assholes are beyond the pale. How dare you abandon the people of your state just to make a ideological splash. When you die, I'll be there to piss on your grave.
 
2012-11-10 11:29:24 PM
These people are heartless. There is no other explanation.
 
2012-11-10 11:31:35 PM
So GOP stands for "Get Out, Poors!"?

Seriously, disenfranchising the nation's poorest citizens while servicing the agenda of the 1% is the only thing the GOP stand for any more.

Screw you, Southern Death Cult.
 
2012-11-10 11:49:12 PM
Yay! This is what happens when the controversy cycle becomes more important to our politicians than the well-being of its sovereign citizens. The best solution is to remind them who's in charge...
 
2012-11-10 11:50:57 PM
What brain trust came up with that...
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2012-11-11 12:00:35 AM

Nofun: the well-being of its sovereign citizens.


Republicans don't give a flying fark about anyone who isn't a 1%er.
 
2012-11-11 12:10:27 AM

dickfreckle: I'm actually offended that Jindal has put his 2016 conservative cred upon the backs of the working poor in my state.


Since when has conservative cred ever meant anything else? What passes for 'tough truths' and credibility in the conservative world is having the courage to tell rich white people that poor minorities will need to suffer more.
 
2012-11-11 12:41:53 AM
I tried, guys. But Alabama's derp was just too powerful; my vote was a drip of fresh water in a sea of piss. Maybe this means all the really fat ones will start dropping, reducing our poverty rate, obesity rate, and (most likely) people-who-can't-read rate!


/HELP US
 
2012-11-11 12:49:38 AM

DamnYankees: dickfreckle: I'm actually offended that Jindal has put his 2016 conservative cred upon the backs of the working poor in my state.

Since when has conservative cred ever meant anything else? What passes for 'tough truths' and credibility in the conservative world is having the courage to tell rich white people that poor minorities will need to suffer more.


Except it's not just minorities. LA is full of poor white folks, most of them voting for Romney. If they actually understood what Jindal is denying them, there would be riots. But hey, Hannity is about to come on, so...

These needless deaths or agonizing illnesses are on you, Jindal. All to make a point. Good job, goatfister.
 
2012-11-11 01:14:11 AM

dickfreckle: DamnYankees: dickfreckle: I'm actually offended that Jindal has put his 2016 conservative cred upon the backs of the working poor in my state.

Since when has conservative cred ever meant anything else? What passes for 'tough truths' and credibility in the conservative world is having the courage to tell rich white people that poor minorities will need to suffer more.

Except it's not just minorities. LA is full of poor white folks, most of them voting for Romney. If they actually understood what Jindal is denying them, there would be riots. But hey, Hannity is about to come on, so...

These needless deaths or agonizing illnesses are on you, Jindal. All to make a point. Good job, goatfister.



Bobby Jindal really is a terrible, terrible human being. Which is probably why he's on the Republican shortlists for 2016.

And yea, this is just insane and the only reason they can get away with it is because it hurts people who are mostly pretty powerless.
 
2012-11-11 01:18:54 AM
If you're poor and you live in the South, there's a good chance health care reform won't reach you. Intransigent Republican governors from Florida to Texas remain steadfastly resistant to President Barack Obama's plan to expand Medicaid to their neediest constituents.

Because if there's one thing a GOD fearing Christian Republican knows, its that Jesus hated the sick and poor. crush them motherf*ckers underfoot, right guys? its' what your god wanted! NO MORE SOCIALISMS! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
 
2012-11-11 01:47:18 AM
You write about how for 300 years Yankeedom and the Deep South have essentially been the two super powers battling for control over the federal government and the nation's soul. How different was the Deep South to begin with?

No two regional cultures are more different. There are probably no two countries in Europe as different in terms of fundamental goals and values. The Deep South was founded a few generations after Yankeedom around Charleston and the lowlands of South Carolina by English slave lords from the island of Barbados. It was actually referred to as "Carolina in the West Indies," as if it was a Caribbean slave island that just happened to be on the mainland. It was a slave state backed by a racial caste system. The system was extremely authoritarian and marked by staggering differences in wealth and privilege and rights. Its founders considered the slave state to be virtuous; they abhorred democracy and saw themselves as aristocrats and society as being created to serve their interests. They thought that regular people's participation in politics should be limited or nonexistent.


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2012-11-11 01:51:56 AM
If you are poor and not insured, you are not worth their time.

Fark the Republicans!
 
2012-11-11 02:10:00 AM
Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.
 
2012-11-11 02:11:45 AM

RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.


I guess that explains the GOP fixation on death panels then.
 
2012-11-11 02:11:58 AM

RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.


Time to cull the herd huh?
 
2012-11-11 02:17:26 AM

RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.


the "Don't get sick! If you do, die quickly!" theory of healthcare.

I really try hard not to consider conservatives unamerican assholes.. but farking hell they make it hard.
 
2012-11-11 02:32:23 AM

Nadie_AZ: You write about how for 300 years Yankeedom and the Deep South have essentially been the two super powers battling for control over the federal government and the nation's soul. How different was the Deep South to begin with?

No two regional cultures are more different. There are probably no two countries in Europe as different in terms of fundamental goals and values. The Deep South was founded a few generations after Yankeedom around Charleston and the lowlands of South Carolina by English slave lords from the island of Barbados. It was actually referred to as "Carolina in the West Indies," as if it was a Caribbean slave island that just happened to be on the mainland. It was a slave state backed by a racial caste system. The system was extremely authoritarian and marked by staggering differences in wealth and privilege and rights. Its founders considered the slave state to be virtuous; they abhorred democracy and saw themselves as aristocrats and society as being created to serve their interests. They thought that regular people's participation in politics should be limited or nonexistent.

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Hmm, that's quite interesting. I think I need to read that book. I will say that as someone with Pennsylvania Dutch roots who grew up in a multicultural South Florida, I can definitely say that I've faced more than a little culture shock dealing with people from certain parts of the US. Dealing with the Deep South feels to me like being in a different country.
 
2012-11-11 02:40:43 AM

RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.


We're among the richest nation in the world. Perhaps we should reallocate the reasources.

Cause the farkers who got it now aren't using to benifit the species.
 
2012-11-11 03:04:11 AM

Weaver95: If you're poor and you live in the South, there's a good chance health care reform won't reach you. Intransigent Republican governors from Florida to Texas remain steadfastly resistant to President Barack Obama's plan to expand Medicaid to their neediest constituents.

Because if there's one thing a GOD fearing Christian Republican knows, its that Jesus hated the sick and poor. crush them motherf*ckers underfoot, right guys? its' what your god wanted! NO MORE SOCIALISMS! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!


The American conservative Christian has become much like the church hierarchy that Jesus was railing against in the first place: Big on ceremony and exclusionary bullshiat, not big enough on actually following the Word.
 
2012-11-11 03:06:24 AM
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2012-11-11 03:06:41 AM
Southern Republican governors decide that hating Obama is more important than keeping the poor from dying in the streets

FTFY, subby
 
2012-11-11 03:13:11 AM
Cool cool.

You guys can deny poor people health care.

I'm quite sure most of them will cheer you on. In fact, I bet they will be dying to vote for you.

*nyucknyucknyuck*

/these guys need to change their mascot to the Dodo bird
 
2012-11-11 03:14:06 AM
The Republican Party today has a pretty major problem. Their economic platform is designed around the idea that government can never do anything right. But people can objectively see that's not true. Government can do things right. Government can strengthen freedom. Government can plant the seeds of growth that allow people to achieve the American Dream. We need an activist government to have a vibrant capitalist market. The Republican Party would do well to change their message.

Of course, this is already the message of the Democratic Party, so we'll see how well that goes over.
 
2012-11-11 03:14:38 AM
Let's see if I have this correct: the poorest states and the states with the highest rates of obesity don't want to participate in ACA.

Isn't this a win for everyone who doesn't live in those states?

Look it's not my fault these morons vote against their own wishes 90% of the time. You put those people into power, you pay the consequences. You don't like that, get rid of your governors or move to another state.
 
2012-11-11 03:16:00 AM
I honestly cannot remember the last time I read a story about Republicans in which they weren't being utter coonts. Can you?
 
2012-11-11 03:24:15 AM
The South seems very eager to become part of the third-world.

And the poorest and most vulnerable will keep voting for these clowns because...I don't know, Obama? Gay people?  Freedom? Jesus, or something, maybe?
 
2012-11-11 03:25:00 AM

bdub77: Isn't this a win for everyone who doesn't live in those states?


Well, if you're of the "Fark You, I Got Mine" set, I suppose it is a win, yes.
 
2012-11-11 03:27:42 AM

RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.



Survival of the fittest or the law of evolution has not applied to the human species for many generations
 
2012-11-11 03:29:47 AM
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HEALTH CARE IS FOR CLOSERS!
 
2012-11-11 03:31:06 AM

RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.


Is that why you kicked your kids out of the house once they could walk and told them "You're on your own!"? You didn't want them leeching off of your efforts like a dirty welfare queen?
 
2012-11-11 03:32:06 AM

speckio: RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.


Survival of the fittest or the law of evolution has not applied to the human species for many generations


Nope. At this point we're more like kudzu. Every egg is sacred, and every single medical intervention to prolonge life, even just for a few days or weeks, MUST BE TAKEN no matter how the patient feels about it.
 
2012-11-11 03:32:31 AM

Gordon Bennett: I honestly cannot remember the last time I read a story about Republicans in which they weren't being utter coonts. Can you?


Gordon Bennett: I honestly cannot remember the last time I read a story about Republicans in which they weren't being utter coonts. Can you?


try watching fox news or reading american thinker....
 
2012-11-11 03:34:31 AM
Obvious tag found under a bridge or something?
 
2012-11-11 03:34:54 AM
I thought this was all announced months ago.

But.. but.. the states will have to pay slightly more money to save the lives of people!

Yeah, and?
 
2012-11-11 03:35:59 AM

quatchi: Screw you, Southern Death Cult.


What did they ever do to you ?
 
2012-11-11 03:36:54 AM

RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.


You want to cull the population? Do the honorable thing and start with yourself, then.
 
2012-11-11 03:37:54 AM

Gordon Bennett: I honestly cannot remember the last time I read a story about Republicans in which they weren't being utter coonts. Can you?


When gov. Chris Christie put politics aside during Hurricane Andrew and worked with and praised Obama.
 
2012-11-11 03:39:26 AM

RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.


Which is why we need a natural predatory foe -I say bring back the sabre tooth tiger!
 
2012-11-11 03:40:19 AM
The South, dumber than dirt, no lie.
 
2012-11-11 03:41:14 AM

RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.


Well, you got a few bites so I guess I'm wrong, but I thought this was pretty half-assed. Real Republicans don't believe in Darwinism.
 
2012-11-11 03:42:28 AM

Darth_Lukecash: Gordon Bennett: I honestly cannot remember the last time I read a story about Republicans in which they weren't being utter coonts. Can you?

When gov. Chris Christie put politics aside during Hurricane Andrew and worked with and praised Obama.


When Rubio started to formulate the DREAM act.
 
2012-11-11 03:42:38 AM

Darth_Lukecash: Gordon Bennett: I honestly cannot remember the last time I read a story about Republicans in which they weren't being utter coonts. Can you?

When gov. Chris Christie put politics aside during Hurricane Andrew and worked with and praised Obama.


I would not be surprised if he threw his name in for 2016... I might vote for him if he can get the right wing radicals in check
 
2012-11-11 03:44:44 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: RobertBruce: Too many people and not enough resources. We don't thrive as a species if we don't have to fight to survive.

Well, you got a few bites so I guess I'm wrong, but I thought this was pretty half-assed. Real Republicans don't believe in Darwinism.


No, that's very typical of his comments.

I wonder if he's a fan of Mr. Morden.
 
2012-11-11 03:44:50 AM

Darth_Lukecash: When gov. Chris Christie put politics aside during Hurricane Andrew and worked with and praised Obama.


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2012-11-11 03:51:00 AM
Republicans seem to not understand this politics thing; the goal is to attract people to your side, not drive them away.

The GOP seems destined to become a racist party that only exists in the most backward parts of the south.
 
2012-11-11 03:51:05 AM
I wish the Fed would start cutting off funding to states who refuse to participate. But we can't even get the IRS to punish churches that preach politics. So I guess all we can do is hope voters remember this crap once re-election time comes.

In the meantime I'm just going to thank God I live in a blue state.
 
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